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no, unfortunately, the time, the time of our program has come to an end, thank you all for your attention, goodbye, the biggest missile attack in the world, that 's the name of today's attack on the ukrainian capital, can we say that the tactics of the russians are changing, let's try to understand in today's edition of the bbc ukraine, i am olga palomaryuk. caliber iskander dagger. kyiv was attacked with almost everything that is in service in the russian aerospace forces. what was it, an act of revenge or the start of a winter shelling campaign. not a single peaceful night, russia has been shelling the territory of ukraine for days now. they hit kharkov, kropyvnytskyi, the most massive rocket attack fell on the capital. first , the russians... launched attack drones, all 35
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shaheds of the air defense forces of ukraine were shot down, later kiev was attacked from the west, east and north with missiles, as military experts assume, in this way the russians tried to exhaust ukrainian air defense. damaged houses, warehouses, private households are injured and killed. how do you beat everything that russia has, as reported by the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine valery zaluzhnyi. russia released 99 missiles of various types, these are cruise, anti-radar, ballistic, caliber and air-ballistic missiles, the kinzhal 72 was shot down. today's shelling is already called a record, as military expert, head of the come back alive foundation taras chmut says, it was the largest missile attack in the world and no country in the world has yet repelled such attacks. about the record. today's attack
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is also said in the air force of ukraine, and we will also talk about it, but a little later, and first the report from the place of the missile impact. bbc correspondent james waterhouse visited solomyanskyi district of kyiv. that's how close the rocket hit this high-rise building. the depth of the hole is approximately 5 m. and just look at the destruction. the windows did not fly out, they were torn. you can see laundry drying, what's left of it , smoke rising inside, the house is damaged even on the other side, and the building across the street was also damaged, that's how powerful this explosion was, if it's not obvious, it was a missile, but russia also uses drones , frankly, we haven't seen attacks like this since the first days and weeks of the invasion. last night the missile and drone attack lasted six hours.
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air defenses could be heard all night and then explosions again this morning. vladimir putin said he wanted to respond to a ukrainian drone strike in russia this week, despite the fact that it was in response to russia's largest ever air strike against ukraine. it matters when it happens. there were fears that russia was stockpiling missiles like a father in order to use them in the new year period. and while no new military... aid from the united states is currently scheduled to arrive, such attacks are testing air defense systems that depend on continued western support for long-term resupply . this is an uncertain, very critical time for ukraine. now my colleague from kyiv, zhanna bespyachuk, joins the conversation. zhanno, this air attack is already being called the largest combined attack. kyiv and the involvement
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of hypersonic weapons, what is known about the consequences of this attack for the ukrainian capital? yes, congratulations, so these attacks, these combined massive attacks on the ukrainian capital affected a total of eight districts of kyiv, indeed, since the very beginning of the war, there have not been such air attacks on kyiv, whenever there were simultaneously. such damage and the whole city was affected on such a large scale, there were fires in the city in several different locations , six districts in kyiv were named, where fires were recorded, caused either by hits or by the fall of debris, fragments of missiles, and sometimes these debris can fall with unliquidated , non-destroyed combat units, respectively, this... and provokes very
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strong fires, it is known, currently confirmed deaths in general across ukraine this night in the morning five people, four people. died in kyiv and the kyiv region, we have such data today, that is, the city not only experienced the day of mourning on january 1 for the people who died on december 29 in kyiv in the territory of a warehouse in the middle of the city, and here, unfortunately, there are again dead, in addition to this , which is also important to note in order to analyze the consequences of what happened, that - the intensity of the shelling, the variety of aerial means of attack that the russian federation directed at kyiv, the density of this shelling in general was such that that a significant part probably, as can be estimated from the consequences, a significant part of these drones
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and missiles reached the city center, i.e. different areas of the city, including those areas that are closer to the center. in general, according to the plan of the air shield that protects the ukrainian capital, and in particular thanks to the strengthening of this shield with those systems that shoot down airballistic missiles, cruise missiles that fly at such a speed close to ballistic ones, then all this should be shot down even on the outskirts of the city, but we see that when it is actually carried out it is not just a combined attack, and the scale... a hyper-scale attack on the city, then a part of these missiles will arrive, according to the city center, and this will cause such serious consequences, and actually in the material of james, we saw this house in the solomyansk district, which is very, very suffered a lot
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, people were blocked there due to a hit, apparently it is about the training of fragments of a missile, but it is clear that this will be investigated, what exactly from... and there in the houses around this house the windows were blown, really significant damage in the territory of hundreds, in a radius hundreds meters, yes, if you evaluate visually, and now they will already spread, in particular on social networks , instructions on how people can receive, in particular, from the state, or from volunteer organizations, international organizations, aid for recovery. and the reconstruction of their homes, these are the results for now, yes, in fact, we can see even on video the terrible consequences, oh dear, in what regime is the capital currently functioning, did these massed shellings affect the ordinary life of the people of kyiv? olya,
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the most interesting thing, and probably the most optimistic thing, is that the capital of kyiv, the guests of the capital are very are quickly returning to such a usual... working pace of life, and today the capital started working, as usual, almost only with a delay, everyone had to wait for the end of the shelling and the air alert, but the usual working week began, after the holidays in the capital, it can be observed that almost even places where there is damage, where there were, falling rocket fragments, quickly restore work, coffee shops. various institutions are resuming work and kyiv continues to live despite such a terrible shock, such a really abnormal reality, thank you, zhanna, take care bbc correspondent zhanna bespiachuk was in
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touch from kyiv. well, and more about the consequences of the massive russian airstrike on kyiv and kharkiv, read the article on our website bbc.ua titled "we are alive, she managed to hide the little one." this is the story of the people affected by today's massive strike. this article collects the testimonies of people who survived the russian shelling and their first messages to their relatives. but there is one essential difference in today's attack on the ukrainian capital, it is the dagger airballistic missiles, or rather, their number. the russians launched 10 daggers at a time, which is more than, for example, in the entire year of 2022. ukrainian system. mppo shot down all 10 missiles, this is a record, because earlier russia declared that it was impossible to intercept them, and what is known about this type of missiles, dagger is not just a missile, it is a whole complex. missiles are launched from carrier planes, they develop hypersonic speed and maneuver in
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flight. kenjal appeared in the service of the russian army in 2017, they were first used in the war against ukraine in march 2022. well, then the russian ministry of defense reported damage to an ammunition depot in the ivano-frankivsk region. later, there were launches in odesa and vinnytsia regions, but already in may 2023 . russia began to use kenzhal more systematically, it is believed that dagger missiles are difficult to shoot down precisely because of their speed, when there is too little time for interception. we will continue the topic together with the military expert on communication dmytro snigerov. i congratulate you, mr. dmytro, here is 10 out of 10, the ukrainian air defense system worked 100% today. so the question is, how many daggers are there in russia, whether there are any in the public domain somewhere this information. what do you know? let's talk about the fact that
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neither domestic nor foreign sources have accurate information about the number of daggers. as of december 23, ukrainian intelligence called the number of daggers up to approximately 80 units. i note that in march of the 23rd year , the commander of the united forces naeb declared about 49 units, so it is worth saying that this is closed information, and accordingly. its publication in the mass media is either a controlled leak of information from the side on the russian side, with the aim of primarily disinforming western political circles, or an open informational provocation of the russians, of course, about the number, but during the previous one, experts talked about its planning and that the russians were stockpiling missiles for a massive strike. in your opinion, what does this second mass air attack by the russians in less than a week indicate? you know, i do not
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agree with this thesis, it is said that in the russian federation, according to the data of both ukrainian and british intelligence, at the moment approximately up to a thousand units of weapons, these are cruise ballistic missiles. the russian federation, unfortunately, has the opportunity to resume the production of medical equipment, first of all, at the expense of so-called gray imports. it should be noted. that in 2023, the russian federation, bypassing economic sanctions from the leading countries of the west and the united states , managed to import microchips and microelements necessary for the needs of its own defense industry, including for the production of e-caliber daggers, in the amount of approximately 2 billion. therefore , it is said that that the russian federation expected the moment of the onset of cold weather and accordingly decided to strike just at the critical moment. supply of electricity, and on objects, primarily civil, that is
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, energy infrastructure and the corresponding residential complex, and this missile attack by the russian federation should be classified as acts of international terrorists. it is said that the russian federation uses kh-22 missiles, the radius of deviation from which is up to 1 km . fighting part up to one ton, for effort occupiers to sow chaos and panic among the civilian population, i.e. we have to assert at the political level that the russian federation uses means of destruction, primarily as strikes on civilian infrastructure objects, and accordingly demand the recognition of the russian federation as a terrorist state, then there will be other economic sanctions that do not. will enable, first of all, the development of the russian military-industrial complex and the production of cruise and
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ballistic missiles. mr. dmytro, but anti-missiles are also expensive, and what does the ukrainian leadership need in such conditions to do when we see that the attention of the west is openly directed not only to ukraine? this is an artificial opinion, it is worth mentioning that in recent days there have been... successful facts of the transfer of additional air defense systems to the ukrainian side. we are talking about the agreements between the president of ukraine zelenskyi and his canadian colleague, about the transfer of the next batch of sistempons. in addition, many thanks to great britain for transferring missiles for air defense systems to us. and it is worth mentioning that in december, germany handed over four irsk installations and an additional paatrion air defense installation. mr. dmytro, thank you. well, that's all for today, see you tomorrow, good luck,
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congratulations, this is espresso, my name is khrystyna yatskiv, and my colleagues and i continue to do a series of interviews for you from the best. speakers, in normal times, i would not be so sure that we could hear them, at least my guest today, it is quite rare to be in... in particular in the ukrainian capital, and this is a great opportunity to meet with an officer of the third separate assault brigade, with outside boroda, we will not go into detail, hello, congratulations, indeed we are recording this interview at the exact moment when the third separate penalty brigade is not at the front, because you are now working, improving, re-staffing, and
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will be back soon, maybe when the audience sees this interview, you will already be... back at work, most likely, how i feel in the conditions of kyiv before christmas , i like it, i am not one of those people who complain about the fact that everyone has to live badly, since there is a war in our country, i want to return home, return or to some place that is determined there my job is to have a chance. to rest, to go, to go somewhere there to the cinema, to the theater, to the club, i don’t know, for the guys , who will get younger, that’s why i, i really like you, the military environment, are so popular in this position, because, well, again well, it's a very sensitive moment, it annoys someone, and it's completely understandable, someone is happy and
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says, oh, i understand what we stand for, and in general, well, it's cool that we can... at least at some point of our countries to provide such a life, i think that the question here is precisely, well, there are two aspects for me, the first is social, that is, when a military man can afford something that an average citizen can afford, it's better, well, better, when his family is enough, yes, and when he returns home, he's doing well, in his psychological state, well, he's more motivated , it is not... it is said that, well, there, how do ordinary citizens who do not take part in hostilities live, and the second aspect is, well, initial psychology, there, upbringing, the psychological state of a person who was before that , ugh, yes, that is, there, i have there at the expense of all kinds of youth there
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organizations in which i was a member, there was some... which was acquired there when i was 14-17 years old, well , i am aggressive in the other direction, in the direction of the enemy, and not in the direction of my citizens, and this, by the way, is now almost 2 years of large-scale invasion and there under 10 years of war, this is what characterizes ukrainian society now, someone says that we started to eat each other instead of fighting the enemy, are you watching this? well, this is a classic of ukraine, we don’t even need dogs to be thrown at us, we ’ll fight with each other, we’ll be inside to accuse each other, this is some kind of history of mentality, the question is, is this a remnant of the scoop, or is it already acquired by us here, i did not think about it, but there is such a thing, there is such a story,
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on the other hand, if we were not like that , and wouldn't we be russia then, well, no one quarrels with anyone there, everyone is a party. said yes, i believe that this is the period that, well , we will come to it, and - well, it will either stay with us or not, it is more about permissiveness on the internet, well, that is , it is new for us, that is, well, not long ago , no one could do that there, now, dear grandmother, get out, if she has access there, she can do and say whatever she wants, and people started talking, i think at some point they will just get tired of it and it will fall off by itself somewhere, yes, this story will fall off, the question is not to create that's nonsense for the time being, hey, i'll tell you a little bit about our today's hero, the beard is a man who comes from the crimea, from simferopol, and this is a man who, as his brothers told me, stood at the origins,
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in general, azov, azov movement as such. until 2017, but as they say, the azovians themselves and quite often there are no exes, you still remain in this community, even if you represent or found other units there, i don't know, of different types and forces in our country's military, and the year 2023 and such a little enchantment as ukrainian society , what should have happened, in his opinion, maybe somewhere... in the world, instead we are in this studio now, and what was the 23rd year like for you, were you disappointed in something, or in principle did you not build any illusions for yourself? let me first say a little about azov, that is, we are here it is necessary not to confuse units, well, that is, when
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i left azov, then i, well, i had some azov obds left there, yes, but i was not in the unit, and what are you complaining about, this is an azov family, well, that is, it always remains, but azov, the one that exists at the moment, is a people who have completely gone their own way. and it’s separate , well, it’s not necessary, if, it’s them, but we have our own unit, which also has achievements and, but the family, yes, it’s more social, more honor, that’s where, soul, honor, but about , what i thought in summing up the results of the 23rd year, and i i believe that... we are also alive in this studio, it’s good, we laid out some plans, we were outright defeated, there was no feeling that we were
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directly behind the urals, chasing everyone in a mask, we are military, we, we have a task, we carried it out, the tasks that were set by each brigade were completed 100%, which were set before us this year, the question is that people are told that we were about to win, or did anyone have any your vision of the results of the ukrainian counteroffensive, then there are two answers: the first is to come and see myself, why is it not as you thought, here, and the second thing is, we need to put the country on a military track, what russia did, here, if we... really put the country on a military track, then we have all chances of winning this war. well, look at your opinion, doesn't your thesis about the need
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to put the country on military rails resonate with what you and i started this conversation about, kyiv on new year's eve, we started this conversation about whether or not i will be angry with these people, that is, it is already what it is now. that is, i am not saying that it should be so, i am i say that it is now, and it does not cause aggression in me, it does not cause some kind of lunch, god forbid, that’s it, but i think that it should be different, we should do it as much as possible, that is, no it will just be given, and every person in this country must do something every day for this victory, and to do it there is not there, you can choose for yourself , yes, like now, or there. who wants to be on the economic front, who wants to be on some other front, who is on some other front, no, it should be a state program, the only strong a machine that will turn into the death of the enemies and
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into our victory, ugh, and in the army itself now, well, that is, in 2023, when it became clear that we need to harness for a long time and we will need many people for this struggle, calls for unification began. to the armed forces of ukraine, to the defense forces , in general, especially since you know your strengths, you can find suitable positions, suitable work, various specialists are needed in the armed forces and so on and so forth, shall we not stop early or it is late that we will have, relatively speaking, all operators there uavs or logisticians, and there won't be any attack aircraft left, or something like that, well, this too, i take it seriously, it's also a system. a uav operator is a person who has undergone some kind of training, not everyone can do it, this is a person who has invested money, invested strength, that
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is, well, it’s not just recruiting people, saying, you will be a uav operator, yes, then there is, that is, a person prepares there for six months, he studies, learns this science, after which he goes to war, there are not so many positions, we have human resources, the question is that it is not... it should be lost like this, that is why we are constantly working on medicine , that is, a person will not go into battle just knowing how to shoot, he will be able to do everything possible , and their senior brigade, as a senior commander, will fully ensure the safety of these guys who will conduct direct offensive actions, if so it will be, it will be military rails. it will be there , they will follow it, that is, without losing human resources, we will be able to do more, well , the third oshab, as we speak, now
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it seems to me that there are no people. in this country, which would not know of the existence, at least of your brigade, because the information campaign is very effective and well, as far as i'm concerned, many representatives of various businesses support you, and we see it every time we just go to the supermarket, and how did you manage to achieve this, well, that is, to create a certain brand and encourage people to mobilization to join you , i understand that there will never be enough people, but in principle there are quite a few willing to join you, as far as i know, well, first of all, this is word of mouth radio, well, yes, again, we all, everyone writes posts on the internet of some kind these, and people see, well, that we are a little different, yes, that is, people see that how we are developing, how we were able to put up a complete unit in two years. here is someone
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who was hanging out with us, who has friends , someone is also reading somewhere there, he is being mobilized, i want to be in the third assault brikan, someone is right there, our contingent is exactly the volunteers, and here is someone looking for where to go, here is a person who wants , she monitors the internet and chooses where to go, then she stumbles upon us somewhere, oh, i'll go here, and then it turned into a team brand. this is also the manager is good, that's the job of the commander to select his staff, in particular there are also people who are responsible for some kind of media composition, it works, works, we have been talking for a long time that the most important thing is our people, and this is how we differ from our enemy, i understand that things happen differently in combat conditions, and one cannot
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do without losses either. but almost two years into a large-scale invasion, do we still stand there, do we still have the understanding that man is above all? well, it depends on the commander, i can only say for ours commanders, well, the selection of personnel in our country is done in such a way that the human resource is the most important, well, because it is a person. even here, well, if you don’t take humanitarianism, then purely from a military point of view, a person can react to any situation, a person can perform the craziest task, that is, if he is ideologically savvy, if he is motivated, that is the most important thing, after the war, a person will be able to to develop this country, here is the same, the same motivated
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person, therefore... people's lives are the most important, returning a little to the azov family, which is extremely long and very dramatic the tragic episode with mariupol, with the mariupol garrison in general and azov, how did you experience it and in general, how internally... it was possible to bear all of this in general, because it is a crazy load, well , for us it was really a big blow, exactly what we couldn't really help it somehow, but at that time i was involved in the defense of kyiv, and we had something to do, too, that is , we were fighting there, in parallel with our
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command... in time we found some options together with flying helicopters flew into mariupol with a roar volunteers, azov residents, and not only old azov residents, but also a bunch of young guys who also flew there because of ideological alliances, there were unsuccessful, unfortunately, attempts to break through to mariupol. somehow so, that is, you were still in all these processes in order to facilitate the liberation, our brothers were there, that is, i don’t know how everyone, it was the same for me, we did not think about the liberation of mariupol, well, i this, i'm not into this...

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