a loss for the ukrainian economy, it is actually a loss for the polish economy as well, because they also suffer from it in other areas, these voices have not yet been heard, i really hope that after all tusk will come to ukraine and they will have an objective a conversation with our current government, and let's say this, strategy will win over tactics, but without active work on our part, the miracle over the dnieper or the vistula will not happen, well, we saw that... hugs, well, first of all, andrzej duda - this was a person who was the last of the european politicians to leave kyiv on 23 february, and it was written in the book, polish on the warrior, and if i’m not mistaken , that’s what it’s called, and then he’ll embrace with president zelensky, huge help with tanks, first there’s the reception of people, well that, but you see, it turns out yes, nothing personal, just business, right? i wanted to question

mr. miroslav, is it really just business, and we are here, and we say, well, we have a war, we are suffering, and again, it is just business, and what is the mood in polish society, it is clear that these elections showed , what the polish wants society, the elections that took place, but still, however you would evaluate it, and here, whether it can go down, whether some other group of people can join, or a certain community, a profession that will also want to demand something, we are not we know who else we are there... we have crossed the road, as they say, please, so let's put the case with a sick head on from a sick head to healthy legs, why did this problem arise in the first place, why did this problem arise, what what russia attacked ukraine with great aggression, a great war on february 24, 2020, february 24, 2022, and then everyone, everyone the countries of the european union said: pay attention to

closing and closing the borders of ukrainian ports, the impossibility of exporting grain and a huge crisis in the provision of ukrainian grain to the countries of africa and asia, then the idea of ​​​​borders of corridors of solidarity with ukraine appeared, so that by land routes, railways, and well cargoes. to deliver goods both from ukraine and to deliver goods to ukraine, all the countries of the european union have agreed to this, this is a solution that should only be used during the war, it is not about any negotiations with the european union, about the terms of accession and so on, this is not what we are talking about, they are trying to hide it behind our eyes, firstly, that is, it is a temporary solution, secondly, how many of those so-called protesters are there? at

four checkpoints on the border between poland and ukraine, there are between 50 and 70 people, what we are talking about are big protests, four people protested in slovakia, it was also called a big protest, this is how we will get out, i don’t know from anywhere some of those present during this discussion will also call ourselves the committee of protection protesters cats, that there is no need to bring cats from ukraine, because there are enough of them in poland, so let's close the border like this. just so as not to bring , let's say the present, the polish economy will benefit from the war in ukraine, i'm sorry , i say so, but there is a surplus in the trade between poland and ukraine, both in the 22nd year and in the 23rd year, that is, poland exports more to ukraine than it imports from ukraine, well, this must also be said, the damage to the polish economy from this protest is also greater.

now if there was no indifferent attitude or such an inert attitude from the government and the previous current one towards these so-called protests, i.e. blocking the border in fact, they solved this problem a long time ago, how is it possible that military transports, humanitarian transports to a warring country are controlled by unknown persons, it means that the state has already has lost its functions, the police send those who come to... the border to those so-called protesters to check what kind of cargo is there, well, you just know, well, it's such a disgrace that we don't mind what they had b to form a polish government, i will not normally speak in ukrainian, instead, what i should have done is to say that this is a problem of national security, both for poland itself and for the entire european union, well, the russians have already launched their missile on the territory of poland , 3 minutes on...

not the economy, mrs. yulia, what steps should i take now? well, i say once again that we will watch a movie made by mykola knyazhytskyi, he talked to many people and will answer many questions, what kind of people are they, who can stand with them, and why arose, but now concretely, it is a problem, well, not a problem, it is a sign of democracy that everyone can demand their own, because we have losses, we want to change it, again, whether it will be possible to calculate all this. a common denominator, that because you want so much, we lose so much in poland, and ukraine loses so much, that is, so that we understand, well, because there must be some kind of consensus, it also does not happen, well, only with putin nothing can be decided, because he is a sick person, but, well, it's like healthy people with healthy requirements, which should be steps, and

again, the government should now act actively, and what, yes, please, ms. yuria, did you hear me or not? yes, i heard you. you see, in order to solve something, you have to do something. and this is the main thing. in order to start solving both with carriers and farmers, it is necessary to systematically deal with this. deputies cannot do this, because we are all out of town. we can't move, even i, having many polish friends and european friends, can't talk to them and convince them, because i just physically can't. the servants of the people are away, here they are recently flew to the united states of america, held negotiations, met with republicans and democrats, a whole group, and stefanchuk still, stefanchuk still can't, doesn't exist, and i 'll tell you honestly, looking at these business trips, i

think we did the opposite worse for myself, that's why i have the courage to go to america, but we achieved a completely different result, because my republican... friends said, if you need money, you came, and if you don't need money, you were gone years, so look, that's all, if only we could talk to endlessly, but the deputies can't help here, we can send political statements, we can talk on the phone, but we can't and won't be able to go anywhere, so the government should take it upon itself, it's their direct responsibility, if they will not be able to solve this problem, so let them resign and we will appoint others. government, i don't see another option, i am absolutely sure that it is always possible to find compromises in money, in the economy and in finance. what cannot be compromised are national values security, everything else, sorry, the price is a question,

so i think that it is absolutely possible to sit down at the negotiating table, you can discuss both with polish colleagues and with carriers, but for this it should not be glamorous to drive in... stand up and pass along the queues walk 10 km, talk with people, with some, with others, with fifths, with tenths and talk and understand, then go to politicians, that's how it's done, well, that's how things are solved in any sector, not only in public affairs, so in fact i would talk to them about any compromises, except for the return permits , that is, other than de-liberalization, because that for us would actually... destroy the free movement that we need to fight, so the one point we can't move is to roll back permits and de-liberalize movement, everything else it is possible to discuss and find a compromise, i am absolutely sure of this, but i am now, moving on to mr.

volodymyr, i will just announce some fresh information, it concerns farmers, it does not concern carriers, but they are planning to block it again starting tomorrow medicashegini, checkpoint. between ukraine and poland, i will quote: the leader of the protesters, roman kondruv, or kondruv, i just don't know, so i'm afraid to make a mistake, said that this time the protest will be tougher, the protesters plan to let one car per hour out of the queue, passenger cars and buses will pass, trucks will pass with humanitarian aid, military equipment, dangerous goods and perishable food, but then what will be tougher on me, sir? volodymyr, it appears now information, from tomorrow the block, these conditions give how to react to it, how to act here and again, who to go to, negotiate in this situation, well, it’s time again, it’s another loss, even though i’ll skip it, that’s all one thing, it will be an accumulation of people's equipment, and emotions

, as always, are not needed in this situation, and again, losses, please, look, i think that until this situation is resolved, kubrakov should live in warsaw. this is the vice-prime minister of ukraine, this is a person who has enormous powers, i don't know how he is doing now relations with the president are formed, but nevertheless, he defends his interests. country and issue number one, issue number two has in particular the sphere he is in charge of, that is to have a telephone conversation between the presidents of both countries, or rather the president and the prime minister of poland, it seems to me that the toolkit of involving the united states and brussels in the solution of this issue, he is not fully engaged, this is not a secondary problem, it is a problem that already poses a threat to... the national security of ukraine, and just as the president explains that the release of tatarov can harm the administration of the state and the president

to the defeat of ukraine on the battlefield, he must also explain that the transport collapse on the western border of ukraine can also cause defeat on the battlefield, and these things are absolutely easily correlated with each other , and here i would also like to support ms. yuliya that the issue of a transport visa is critically important. if we take even one step back in this matter, our accession to the european union will be many times more difficult than it is today. we are so silent went to a meeting with the romanians regarding the danube-black sea deep-water shipping route. well , half an hour passed in the press like that, no one seemed to even notice. this has been a fundamental issue for us for 20 years. we actually handed it over. well, you can understand that we asked it due to the fact that we have good neighborly relations with romania as well. now there is indeed a critical direction towards this state regarding transport logistics, but

we do not have the right to issue a transport visa-free, and this should be articulated calmly, professionally, reasonably, without rude statements from the podium of the un general assembly, in a confidential conversation, how to get out of this situation? here, of course, the question is about qualifications, again, i do not blame anyone, i did not conduct testing before accepting certain people, but... again, knowing your work during your time as a minister, knowing the work of mrs. yulia in her position as a deputy, i understand how important the expertise of people is, so the question here is whether people have all the tools and have a sufficient number of connections, contacts, so that these issues decide, that's why i don't know, i won't do it, well , maybe something is missing somewhere, we literally have four minutes, a little less, i will ask very briefly one question at a time, briefly, mr. maroslav, i will ask you, but in general, you do you watch a polish tv channel? but i have no doubt that this topic is somehow discussed there, or is it like that there,

it does not affect us particularly, so in general, well , and it is, well, this topic is certainly present in the mass media, but it must be said that it there is no analytics plus is silent, the expert environment is completely silent, it was clear that... in the winter , russia will use any means against ukraine, means to exhaust ukraine, the ukrainian economy, including. blocking contributes to this goal. and the blocking is directly related to russian measures to deplete ukraine. the beginning of this blocking process is on the sixth of november, its form is completely unacceptable, what my interlocutors said that... we will not pass the first point of the license, these so-called protesters say that we

the licenses must be returned, and we will protest until the month of march, when talks begin about the continuation of the cancellation of this licensing, that is, the protest in this form, if there is no direct action from the state, it will continue until march 31, that is, this temporary state is actually will be permanent, and this is that perspective. which now stands in front of poland, in front of ukraine, and not another, and it is necessary to talk about this, and not only to talk, to voice positions and so on, but to say that this is a matter of national security ukraine is self-evident, but poland, the whole of the european union and the eastern flank of nato, we need to talk about this when we can , instead, that ivan should be given more licenses for polish-polish carriers, i beg you to give yan... some licenses and so on transportation in ukraine is to drive the whole conversation to a dead end.

well, we literally have 40 minutes, i will be very brief, i have the same question for ms. yulia and mr. volodymyr, and maybe there were proposals to speak on the sidelines here, well, you know, we demand one thing, and then we say, let's go there let's leave, talk and decide, and then we'll say in public that we've come to an agreement, isn't there something like that from the side of the protesters, well, let's talk seriously, what do we want, mrs. yuryu, please, you know, a negotiation... any are conducted anyway, there is an official part, there is an unofficial part, where difficult issues are discussed behind closed doors, so no difficult decision is made exclusively. and these are multi-level contacts, which must be at absolutely all levels, at the ministerial level, at the deputy level, at all those who have influence and the opportunity to convey this to the poles, including about national security, therefore, in order to solve the problem, it is necessary to involve everyone, and if you send one deputy minister or even two, then it will not solve

the problem at all. very briefly, mr. volodymyr, what would you do now that you are in office? in fact, i would be in warsaw right now, as i have done dozens of times when such problems arose. i would ask president petro poroshenko to speak to his visa. i would use my contacts in washington and in brussels in order for them to influence the polish government and polish business. and the last thing that is important to do is to give a clear understanding to the poles today that we are rebuilding ukraine together, that... we are returning to the form of joint ventures, that in fact the profit of joint activities will be much higher than the conditional ephemeral competition of ukrainian companies with polish ones on the transport market of the european union thank you very much for the conversation, thank you for joining volodymyr omylyan, ex-minister of infrastructure of ukraine, military serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine, myroslav cheh, a polish

politician, as mr. myroslav said, a pole of ukrainian origin, and yulia klymenko, a people's deputy. thank you, i wish you a good evening, well, we say goodbye to our guests, now i will say once again that we will actually watch a movie made by mykola knyazhytsky, it is called pro-russian operation on the polish border, he went to poland, so what is it about said mr. emelyan, and we will learn more about the protesters, about the mood and what is happening behind the scenes, let's watch a film about a russian operation on the polish border. we are in the polish sejm, right here in this place a few days ago there was a hanukiya on hanukkah, this hanukiya was scandalously extinguished with a fire extinguisher by jackos braun, at the same time he

injured a woman who wanted to stop him. grzegorz braun is one of the leaders of the polish-ukrainian protests. border and one of the initiators of these protests, everything that this pro-russian party does, it does at the hands of moscow. why did they try to make a scandal here in the diet on this day, because on this day the day tusk's new government came to power. why do they block ukrainian military goods and ukrainian economic goods at the border, because it is in the interests of russia to quarrel between our two peoples. about it in our film. this special operation began on november 6 , 2023, it has not ended yet, at one point the movement of several thousand ukrainian trucks was blocked on the polish-ukrainian border. in almost two years of the war, the border with poland turned into a corridor of life through which ukraine received humanitarian aid and weapons. in addition, in conditions of closed sky and

sea, it was the only way for our goods, and therefore a source of currency. after. on february 24, 2022 , the countries of nato and the european union became ukraine's global rear. during this time , aid was provided in various ways, humanitarian, military, economic, in the total amount of about 300 billion dollars. she could get to ukraine only by land, rail and road. it was precisely in order to dramatically increase transportation and save ukraine from the blockade that the european commission... shackled permits for ukrainian carriers. from 2022, like their colleagues from the eu, it is not necessary to obtain a license for transportation to the european union. in march 2023, this rule was extended until june 30, 2024. this year is called transport visa-free. i myself have used this phrase very often, although

in reality it is not entirely accurate. the european union was just beginning with the free movement of people and goods between them. ukrainians have been visa-free for a long time, have been traveling through the european union for a long time, now goods have started to go, but the reason in this case was not economic, the reason was in order to create a real corridor of solidarity, and the polish transporters were given permission to strike, to put it simply, they were allowed to attack the corridors of solidarity. who did it? the government of the law and justice party, which had already lost the elections, but still remained in power. therefore, the strikers were carefully guarded by the police. blockers. made the following demands. the first demand of the blockers is to return the old permission system. but the european commission threatened poland with a fine on november 15. procedure, if the border is not unblocked, but 4 in december 2016, the relevant european commissioner adina velyan confirmed the eu's position: licenses for ukrainians will not be returned,

solidarity corridors will not be closed. the second requirement is to prohibit the registration of companies with capital from outside the eu in poland. in this way, the strikers want to throw ukrainian companies out of the polish market. the third requirement. the poles should have access to the ukrainian system, this would allow the poles to hire ukrainian drivers for less money than the polish ones. at present, ukrainians on polish license plates, having entered ukraine, do not can leave back, as this is prohibited by the martial law regime. the fourth requirement - separate queues for cars from the european union in the base there is a queue. poles believe that this system gives advantages to ukrainians, because they can calmly take their turn at home, while poles, on the other hand, have to be at the border, which increases time and reduces the number of their flights.

the fifth requirement is to allocate separate queues for empty cars, i.e. ukraine, which is interested in exporting its agricultural products by road transport, since there is no alternative to it, should take away lines for departure loaded trucks and give them to empty polish cars. the demand of this group of poles has been fulfilled more than once. the european commission openly stated this, because they actually block military cargo, spare parts for drones, medicines , the state border service, western media, and the drivers themselves speak openly about this. aviation was taken away from us because of the war, ports were taken away because of the war, and now we really only have land transport that can transport goods. on the eastern border , we have tanks blocking, well, in fact , the entire east, starting there with uzbekistan, kazakhstan and all the other countries that we went there before, and... here in the west their tractors, what are they for us, in fact we equate them to tanks, i drove 40 km for six days, six virgins, the guys go for two sundays ,

yesterday passed, for example, we drove half a kilometer there at such a pace, today we drove half a kilometer there and there was no traffic at all all night. in the first days of the attack on the solidarity corridors , the three largest checkpoints were blocked: korchova krakowiec, grebenna ravaruska in lviv oblast. and dorogusk yagodin in volyn, from three to 5 thousand cars stopped at the same time, two drivers died in queues at the border, provocateurs even crushed our

drivers with cars, the police watched silently, but what did this blockade look like in practice, maybe the tracks were blocked with concrete blocks, or hundreds of trucks stood across the roads, no , half a thousand kilometers of the ukrainian-polish border were blocked by fifty people, behind whom there is an extensive network of russian... agents of influence. the confederacy party gathered them under its roof. who are these people? rafal meckler, owner of the rafal mcler transport company transport, which was engaged in transportation to russia and belarus. leader of the far-right confederation of freedom and independence in the lublin voivodeship. he repeatedly made anti-ukrainian statements even after the invasion. like ternopil or lviv with their cult of killers - this is a shameful situation. which should be understood: he accused the ukrainian army of receiving fuel on preferential terms, and then selling it to carriers who go to poland and displace

local companies. this is not the first time that rafal mekler's company has held protests in the interest of the public kremlin. previously, they opposed anti-russian sanctions, and involved other companies in their activities. kamtrans, jatta-trans, bortom, glt poland, kms logi. the leader of the confederation at the all-polish level until 2022 was janusz korwin mikke, who in 2022 declared that russia was not involved in the tragedies in buch and called for admiration for the determination of russian soldiers. another leader of the confederation party , grzegorz braun, stated: ukraine is a fiction, a very dangerous fiction, the fiction of an independent state, a civilized partner and... a fiction a sovereign people with whom it is possible to establish long-term neighborly relations. it was grzegorz braun, the only one in the polish parliament who voted

against condemning the actions of the russian federation as evil. in ukraine already after the atrocities in buch. grzegorz braun personally participates in all political actions of all polish youth affiliated with the confederation, and also maintains direct relations with the paramilitary right-wing radical group for a friendly circle. this polish structure, in turn, closely cooperates with the neo-nazi group rusich from russia. rusich's fighters are directly fighting in ukraine as part of the occupation. units of the russian army and private military companies of the aggressor's country, in particular at wagner's pmk. moscow worked carefully and for a long time on its network of collaborators in poland, because the support of ukraine there is very high, and therefore this support must be undermined by any means, but the ultimate goal of the attack is not only ukraine. the plan to destroy poland itself was made public by dmitry medvedev in his article just two days before the attack on the border. in the article by dmitry

medvidev. poland, megalomania, an inferiority complex and the phantom pains of the empire did not take place, poland appears as an expansionist, imperial and irresponsible state, whose role in international politics is comparable to the role of the third reich on the eve of world war ii. at the end of the article, there are five threats that allegedly come from poland, although in reality these are five strategic directions through which russia is trying to push poland with the help of its pro-russian forces. tours and useful idiots. do you know what was the first mistake of the ukrainian authorities? the authorities approached this issue exclusively as before economy and gave it to the clerks in the ministries. we tried to explain that this is actually a political issue and a matter of national security. but then the authorities decided to wait. i believe that we need to have a very balanced policy, to have an action plan, and to follow it, and we have this plan, it works.

it's all there, i'm sure we can do it all, i think we need to give our neighbors some time, it's getting warmer. instead, i insisted, literally from the first days of the conflict, that this was a russian special operation, and that the authorities did not it will be possible to sit through this special opera. in essence, we were hit in the back, a second front was opened, now the western one, what is the point of appealing to terrorists in driver's vests. we had to turn to the newly created ukraine-nato council, because this is an attack not just on ukraine, but on the entire free world, which has opened its corridors of solidarity to us. this was once done for great britain and west berlin. in 1940, the united states handed over fifty destroyers to great britain, but this was

a decision. only in 1942, changing public opinion in the usa in favor of the military aid from great britain and overcoming the political resistance of the isolationists, president roosevelt signed the lend-lease act, or literally, the rent and debt act. britain received $31 billion worth of equipment and weapons, which is $510 billion at current prices. from june 23, 1948 to may 12, 1949, the united states and great britain supplied west berlin with coal, food, building materials, and medicine by air. the ground connection of the western zone of berlin with the american, british and french sectors was blocked for by order of stalin. during the blockade , 248,000 humanitarian flights were carried out, which amounted to 2,300,000 tons of cargo. and great

britain, west berlin would not have survived without the support of the free world. that is why closing the border effectively destroys the corridor of life that helps us win. in our garage, the boy is taking the humanitarian aid, he was not let down, he is standing, waiting in line. can not. that's all, that's all solidarity. all i wanted to say. taras chmut, head of the back to life charitable foundation, reported that dozens of systems were blocked at the border night vision and...hundreds of drones, pickups - all coming from abroad, night vision kits - all coming from abroad, fpv drones coming from abroad, and this protest is slowing down our work. we are trying to agree with the polish authorities on the unhindered passage of aid, since ukraine has no choice but to import. i often get phone calls from the military asking for help transferring spare parts.