yes, please, ms. yuria , did you hear me, or come on, yes, i heard you, eh , look, in order to solve something, you need to do something, and this is the main thing, in order to start solving and with carriers, and with agrarians, it is necessary to deal with this systematically, deputies cannot deal with this, because we are all not mobile. and we cannot move, even i, having many polish friends and european friends, cannot talk to them and convince them, because i simply cannot physically go on a business trip, servants, servants of the people are away, here they are recently flew to the united states of america, held negotiations, met with republicans and democrats, a whole group, and stefanchuk still, and stefanchuk still can't steal, there are no thieves, and i 'll tell you honestly, looking at these business trips, i think that... we

on the contrary, they made it worse for themselves, and that is why i am talking about a trip to america, but we achieved a completely different result, because my republican friends said, if you need money, then you came, and if you do not need money, then you did not have two years, so look, it's all what if we can talk endlessly, but the deputies here cannot help, we can send political statements, we can talk on the phone, but we cannot and will not be able to go anywhere. therefore, the government should take it upon itself, it is their direct responsibility, if they are unable to solve this problem, then let them resign, and we will appoint another government, i see no other option, i am absolutely sure that money is always possible , in the economy and in finance find compromises, in which you cannot find compromises, these are values ​​and national security, everything else, sorry, the price of the question, so i think... that it is absolutely possible

to sit down at the negotiating table, you can discuss both with polish colleagues and with carriers, but for this it should not be glamorous to ride along the queues, get up and pass walk 10 km, talk with people, with some, with others, with fifths, with tenths and talk and understand, then go to politicians, that's how it's done, well, that's how things are solved in any sector, not only in public business, so i would actually talk to them. about any compromises except the rollback of permits, that is, other than the abolition of liberalization, because that for us would effectively destroy the free transportation that we need in order to fight, so the one point that we cannot move is the rollback of permits and the abolition of liberalization and transportation, everything else it is possible to discuss and find a compromise, i am absolutely sure of this, but i am now, moving on to mr. volodymyr, i will... just announce some fresh

information, it concerns farmers, it does not concern carriers, but they are planning to block it again starting tomorrow medikashagini, the checkpoint between ukraine and poland, i will quote: the leader of the protesters, roman kondruv, or kondruv, i just don’t know, so i’m afraid to make a mistake, said that this time the protest will be tougher, the protesters plan to let one car per hour out of the queue , passenger cars and buses pass. will be allowed through with humanitarian aid, military equipment, dangerous goods and perishable food, well , then what is harder for me, mr. volodymyr, information is now appearing, from tomorrow block, these conditions give us how to react to it, how to act here and, again , who to go to for negotiations in this and this situation, well, it’s time again, it’s loss again, although i’ll skip it, it will still be an accumulation of equipment, people and emotions. as

always, there is no need in this situation and , once again, damages, please, well, look, i believe that until this situation is resolved, kubrakov should live in warsaw, he is the vice-prime minister of ukraine, he is a person who has enormous authority, i don't know how his relationship with the president is now, but that no less, he defends the interests of ukraine and , in particular, the sphere he takes care of, this is question number one, question number two, there should at least be a telephone conversation between the presidents of both states, or rather the president and the prime minister of poland, it seems to me that the tools of involvement of the united states and brussels to resolve this issue, it is not fully engaged, this is not a secondary problem, it is a problem that is already a threat to the national security of ukraine. and just as the president explains that the dismissal of tatarov can harm the administration of the state and...

will lead to the defeat of ukraine on the battlefield, in the same way he should explain that the transport collapse on the western border of ukraine can also cause defeat on the battlefield, and these things, they are absolutely... easily correlated with each other , and here i would also like to support ms. yulia that the issue of visa-free transport is critically important, if we take even one step back in this matter, our entry into the european union will be many times more difficult than it is today. we went so silently to meet the romanians regarding the deep sea of the danube-black sea shipping route. well , according to the press, half an hour passed, and no one seemed to even notice. this was a fundamental issue for us for 20 years, we actually passed it, well, you can understand that we passed it thanks to having good neighborly relations with romania, and we now really have a critical direction towards this country in terms of transport logistics, but passing we do not have the right to transport visa-free, and this

should be articulated calmly, professionally, well-founded, with shameless statements from the rostrum of the un general assembly, in a trusting conversation how to get out of this situation? here , of course, the question is about qualifications, again, i do not blame anyone, i did not conduct testing before accepting certain people for the position, but again, knowing your work at the time as a minister, knowing the work of ms. yulia in her position deputy, i understand how important people's expertise is, so the question here is whether people have all the tools and have enough connections and contacts to solve these issues, so i don't know, i won't, well maybe something could be done somewhere. it is missing, we literally have four minutes, there is a little less, i will ask very briefly one question at a time, in short, paroslav, i will ask you, but in general, you watch polish tv channels, i have no doubt that this topic is somehow discussed there, or it's like that, it's there , it doesn't affect us particularly, so in general, well

, and it is, well, this topic is certainly present in the mass media, but it must be said that it is in... there is no analysis there, plus it is silent , completely expert is waived environment, it was clear that in the fall and winter, russia will use any means against ukraine, means to exhaust ukraine, the ukrainian economy, including, the blockade contributes to the realization of this goal, and the blockade is directly related precisely to russian measures regarding high of ukraine , the beginning of this blocking process on november 6, its form is absolutely unacceptable, the fact that my interlocutors said that we will not hand over the first item of the license, these so-called protesters say that we need to return the licenses, and we will protest until

in the month of march, when talks begin about the continuation of the cancellation of this licensing, that is, a protest in this form, if there is no direct action from the side. of the state, it will continue until the end of march, that is, this temporary state will actually be permanent, and this is the perspective that is now facing poland, ukraine, and not another, and it is necessary to talk about this, and not only to talk about it, to voice positions and so on, but to say that this is a matter of national security of ukraine is self-evident, but of poland of the entire european union and the eastern flank... we need to talk about this when we succeed, instead , we need to give ivan more licenses with polish-polish carriers, first of all give yan some licenses and so on for transportation in ukraine, this will bring the whole conversation to a dead end, well, we literally have 40 minutes , i’m very brief, i have one question for both ms.

yulia and mr. volodymyr, and maybe there were proposals to speak on the sidelines here, well, you know, we demand one thing, and then we say, let ’s leave there, talk and decide , and let's say to the public that we... is there no such thing here from the side of the protesters, well, as if , let's seriously talk about what we want, mrs. yuryu, please, you know, any negotiations are going on and so and so, there is an official part, there is an unofficial part, where complex issues are discussed behind closed doors, so no difficult decision can be made exclusively through official negotiations, and these are multi-level contacts, which must be at absolutely all levels of the ministry. on the parliamentary level, on everyone who has influence and the opportunity to bring this to the poles, in that including on national security, therefore, in order to solve the problem, it is necessary to involve everyone, and if you send one deputy minister or even two, it will not solve the problem at all. very briefly, mr. volodymyr,

what would you do now that you are in office? in fact, i would be in warsaw right now, as i have done dozens of times when such problems arose. i would ask president petro poroshenko to speak to his visa. i would use my contacts in washington and in brussels to influence polish government. and on polish business. and the last thing that is important to do is to give a clear understanding to the poles today that we are rebuilding ukraine together, that we are returning to the form of joint enterprises, that in fact the profit of joint activities will be much higher than the conditional ephemeral competition of ukrainian companies with polish ones on the transport market of the european union. thank you very much for the conversation, thank you for joining, volodymyr omylyan, former minister of infrastructure of ukraine. serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine, myroslav cheh, polish a politician, as mr. myroslav said, a pole

of ukrainian origin, and yulia klymenko, a people's deputy of ukraine. thank you, i wish you a good evening, well, we say goodbye to our guests, now i say once again that we will actually watch a movie made by mykola knyazhytskyi, it is called pro-russian operation on the polish border, he went to poland, yes, about what mr. omelyan said, and we will learn more about the protesters, about the mood, and what is happening behind the scenes, let's watch a pro-russian film. work in polish border satanic cult. we are in the polish diet. it was here on this spot that a few days ago on hanukkah, the hanukiya stood. tyukha jackozh brown scandalously extinguished the cane with a fire extinguisher, at the same time injuring a woman who wanted to stop him. jakoj braun is one of

the leaders of the protests on the polish-ukrainian border and one of the initiators of these protests. everything that this pro-russian party does, it does at the hands of moscow. why did they try to make a scandal here in the seimas on that day, because on that day a new government came to power tuska why do they block ukrainian military goods and ukrainian economic goods at the border, because it is in the interests of russia to quarrel between our two. people, about it in our film. this special operation began as early as november 6, 2023, it has not ended yet, at one point the movement of several thousand ukrainian trucks was blocked on the polish-ukrainian border, in almost two years of war, the border with poland turned into a corridor of life through which ukraine received humanitarian aid and weapons. in addition, in conditions of closed sky and sea, it was the only one

a way for our goods, and therefore a source of currency. after february 24, 2022, the countries of nato and the european union became ukraine's global rear. during this time , aid was provided in various ways, humanitarian, military, economic, in the total amount of about 300 billion dollars. she could get to ukraine. by land, rail and road. precisely in order to dramatically increase transportation and save ukraine from the blockade, the european commission canceled permits for ukrainian carriers. from 2022, like their colleagues from the eu, they do not need to take licenses for transportation to the european union. in march 2023, this rule was extended until june 30, 2024. this year is called visa-free, i myself used this phrase very often, although in fact it is not entirely accurate. the european union was just beginning with

the free movement of people and goods between borders. ukrainians have been visa-free for a long time, they have been traveling through the european union for a long time, now goods have started to travel, but the reason in this case was not economic. the reason is to create a real corridor of solidarity. and so the polish carriers received permission to strike, simply put, they were allowed to attack the corridors of solidarity. who did it? the government of the law and justice party, which at that time had already lost the elections, but still remained in power, so the construction workers were carefully guarded by the police. the blockers put forward the following demands. the first demand of the blockers is to return the old permission system. but on november 15, the european commission threatened poland with a punitive procedure if the border was not unblocked. and on december 4, the profile european commissioner adina velyan confirmed. the second requirement is

to prohibit the registration of companies with capital from outside the eu. in this way, the strikers want to throw ukrainian companies out of the polish market. the third requirement. poles should get access to the ukrainian system shlyah. this would enable poles to hire ukrainian drivers. for smaller ones. than the polish ones cost. currently, ukrainians with polish license plates, having entered ukraine, cannot leave back, as this is prohibited by the martial law regime. requirement: separate queues for cars from the european union , there is a queue in the database. poles believe that this system gives advantages to ukrainians, because they can calmly wait at home for your turn. instead, poles have to be at the border, which increases time and reduces the number of their flights. the fifth requirement is to allocate separate queues for

empty cars, i.e. ukraine, which is interested in exporting its agricultural products by road transport, since... there is no alternative to it, should take away the lines for the departure of loaded trucks and give them to empty polish cars. it is impossible to fulfill the demands of this group of poles, the european commission openly stated this, because they are actually blocking military cargo, spare parts for drones, medicine. the state border service, the western media, and the drivers themselves speak openly about this. aviation was taken away from us because of the war, ports were taken away because of the war, and now we really only have land transport that can transport goods. on the eastern border, we have tanks that block, well, in fact , the whole east, starting there with uzbekistan, kazakhstan and all the other countries that we went there before, here in the west their tractors, what are they to us, in fact, we equate them to tanks, i drove 40 km for six days, the guys drive for six days and two sundays each, yesterday passed,

for example, we drove half a kilometer there at such a pace, today we are working half a kilometer there. in the first days of the attack on the solidarity corridors, the three largest checkpoints were blocked. these are korchova krakowiec, grebenna ravaruska in lviv oblast and dorogusk yagodin in volyn. from three to five thousand cars stopped at once. two drivers died in queues at the border. provocateurs even crushed our drivers with cars. the police watched silently.

but what did this blocking look like in practice? maybe the tracks were covered with concrete blocks or hundreds trucks stood across the roads, no, half a thousand kilometers of the ukrainian-polish border were blocked by fifty people, behind whom there is an extensive network of russian agents of influence, they were gathered under their roof by the confederation party. who are these people? rafal makler, the owner of the transport company rafal mcler transport, which was engaged in transportation to russia and belarus. leader of the far-right confederation of freedom and independence in the lublin voivodeship. once made anti-ukrainian statements already after the invasion, such as ternopil or lviv with theirs cult of killers is a shameful situation that must be dealt with. he accused the ukrainian army of receiving fuel on preferential terms and then selling it to carriers who go to poland and displace local companies. rafal mekler's company is

not the first to hold protests in the interests of the kremlin. earlier , other companies that opposed... russian sanctions were involved in their activities: kamtrans, jata-trans, bortom, glt polska, kms logistics and peotrans. the leader of the confederation at the all-polish level until 2022 year was janusz korwin mikke, who in 2022 declared that russia was not involved in the tragedies in buch and called for admiration for the determination of russian soldiers. another party leader. grzegorz brown stated: ukraine is a fiction, a very dangerous fiction, the fiction of an independent state, a civilized partner, and a fiction of a sovereign people with whom it is possible to establish long-term neighborly relations. it was grzegorz braun, the only one in the polish parliament, who voted against condemning the actions of the russian federation for crimes in ukraine,

already after the atrocities in buch. grzegorz brown personally participates in all political. actions of the all-polish youth, which is affiliated with the confederation, and also maintains direct relations with the paramilitary right-wing radical group conjugal circle. this polish structure, in turn, closely cooperates with the neo-nazi group rusich from russia. rusich's fighters are directly fighting in ukraine, as part of the occupying units of the russian army and private military companies of the aggressor country, in particular in the wagner pmc. moscow worked carefully and for a long time on its network of collaborators in poland, because support ukraine is very high there, and therefore this support must be undermined by any means, but the ultimate goal of the attack is... not only ukraine, the plan to destroy poland itself was made public by dmitry medvedev in his article just two days before the attack on the border. in dmitry medviev's article, poland, megalomania,

an inferiority complex and the phantom pains of an empire that never happened, poland appears as an expansionist, imperial and irresponsible state whose role in international politics is comparable to the role of the third reich on the eve of world war ii war at the end of the article, there are five threats that allegedly come from poland, although in fact, these are five strategic directions through which russia is trying to push poland with the help of pro-russian forces, its agents and useful idiots. do you know what was the first mistake of the ukrainian authorities? the authorities approached this issue exclusively as an economic one and handed it over to the clerks in the ministries. we tried to explain that this is actually a political issue and a matter of national security. but then the authorities decided to wait. i think, us it is necessary to be... and to have a very balanced policy, to have a plan of action to follow, and we have this plan, the prime minister, as well as

deputy prime minister stefanyshyn, also work at the level of the minister of foreign affairs and also at the level of the ministry of the ministry of infrastructure, all this is there, i'm sure we can do it all, i think we need to give a little time to our neighbors, everything depends on the heat. instead, i insisted literally from the first days of the conflict that this was a russian special operation, and that the authorities would not succeed in persecuting this special operation. essentially, they hit us in the back, opened a second front. now it is western. what is the point of appealing to terrorists in driver's vests then. we had to turn to the newly created ukraine-nato council, because this is an attack not just on ukraine, but on the entire free world, which has opened its corridors of solidarity to us. they used to do this for... great britain and west berlin. in 1940, the usa handed over fifty destroyers to great britain, but it was more of a symbolic gesture. only in 1942,

having changed public opinion in the usa in favor of military aid to great britain and overcoming political resistance of the isolationists, president roosevelt signed the lend-lease act, or literally, the lease and debt act. britain received a technical and weapons worth 31 billion dollars, at current prices it is 510 billion dollars. from june 23, 1948 to may 12 , 1949, the united states and great britain supplied west berlin with coal, food, construction materials, and medicine by air. ground communication of the western zone of berlin with the american, british and french sectors was blocked by order. stalin it was during the blockade 248,000 humanitarian flights were carried out, which amounted to 2,300,000 tons of cargo. and great britain,

west berlin would not have survived without the support of the free world. that is why closing the border effectively destroys the corridor of life that helps us win. our garage was driven by a humanitarian woman, they did not let him go. he is waiting in line. can not. that's all. that 's all solidarity. all i wanted to say taras chmut, head of the come back alive charity foundation, reported that dozens of night vision systems were blocked at the border and hundreds of drones. the pickups are all coming from abroad, the night vision kits are all coming from abroad, the fpv drones are all coming from abroad and this protest is holding back our work. we are trying to agree with the polish authorities on the unimpeded passage of aid, because... ukraine has no other choice but to import. i often get phone calls from the military asking for help transferring parts for drones. the same thing happens with spare parts for anti-drone systems.

transportation of parts for machines that produce ukrainian weapons. this lockdown is taking a huge toll, our gross domestic product alone has dropped by 1%, that's a lot. what exactly are these polish carriers trying to achieve, because if we fulfill all their demands, we have them. there will be a total economic disaster. one day of downtime of a truck at the border results in €300-350 in losses. losses reached 400 million euros in just one month of blocking. indirect losses will be calculated already in 2025 . these are fines and penalties, refusal to enter into contracts with ukrainian companies. federation of employers and the association of international motor carriers already estimates them at several billion dollars. exports of ukrainian products decreased by 40%, and the state treasury did not receive uah 9.3 billion

in customs payments during the month of the blockade. according to. of the chamber of industry, every day ukraine does not receive paid goods in the amount of 22.5 million dollars, of which 13.4 million are polish. also, ukraine does not deliver goods worth more than $7 million to contractors every day. according to the results of the year, due to the strike at the border, ukraine will lose 1% of gdp, and its growth will be 2.5%, instead of the predicted 3.5. in fact, our budget is formed from two sources of income. one of them is ukrainians who pay taxes. this is our customs, this is our economy. and when the border is blocked, in fact, these funds are not earned and do not enter the budget. and it is precisely these funds that we have the right to spend on the maintenance of our army and our troops. and we spend the second part of the money on social needs. so these funds are given directly to the budget by our western partners and international institutions.

and one more part - military weapons. u.s it is so important that the democrats and republicans come to an agreement in the parliament of the united states of america. and so in such difficult conditions, when there is no other way to export ukrainian goods except through europe, we also cannot bring goods to ukraine, the blocking of this border begins. the entire logistics chain has been disrupted, and even such a desperate way of transporting the blocked trucks by rail will not help at all. there will not be enough tracks and platforms. the first such train carried 13 wagons. at the border it can stand from three to 500 at the same time . it is hard to imagine that in a democratic and strong state a handful of people could block a strategic object, and roads are strategic objects, because they lead to border points where you can't even shoot. the last time this happened to us, i remember the 13th, and especially the 14th year, when the russian-ukrainian war began, and the russians financed the separatists in donbas, and then they took out people who allegedly blocked

the roads, took ukrainian . "okay, our state was weak then, we couldn't lead everything is fine there, but later on, why is the polish state inactive now, imagine that these so-called protesters will come and block the runway at wrzeszów airport, where all our military aid from western partners arrives. the government believes that it is not the addressee of the protesting carriers' demands, the reasons for the protests lie either on the ukrainian side or on the eu side. the government adheres to the principles that everyone can protest, but the authorities should not prevent it. it is strange that the polish blockaders do not appeal to their government, and to the ukrainian one, so that our government has already turned to the european commission, which, on our initiative, should, from their point of view, block our corridor of life. this is complete absurdity. and the polish minister also criticizes the european commission for the existence of this corridor of life, which should exist until the summer of 2024.

it is strange that when this decision was made in the european commission, the polish government had its representatives there, but remained silent and then supported it, i was informed about this in our ministry of foreign affairs. answer of the ministry of foreign affairs. the ukrainian side did not receive formal, official objections of poland and slovakia regarding the extension of the agreement in the spring of 2023. and what happened between the spring of 2022, when the european commission decided that ukrainian goods can it is harmful to drive on the roads of the european union and in the fall of 23rd year, when polish blockaders began to block the roads and elections took place, the polish party law and justice lost power and is trying to solve its problems in this way. after the parliamentary elections this fall, peace tried in every possible way to delay the coming to power of the leader of the civic platform, the former prime minister of poland and the president of the european council , donald tusk, and to complicate the start of his

work. it is this influential. back in november , he could give donald tusk the right to form a new government, but he used the formal reason that peace won the first place in the elections, and therefore entrusted it to the acting prime minister mateusz murovecki. it was a temporary government for two weeks, and it was obvious that on december 11 , the newly elected parliament would not provide proof of morvetskyi's vote. after all, peace got the first one seat, but it lacked the mandates to form a majority. the far-right confederation, with which they hoped to open a coalition, won far fewer votes than sociologists had predicted. when peace lost the elections, he began to act according to the principle " the house burned, let the church burn." they directly supported the terrorists on the border. this was announced by prime minister muravetskyi at the time. although the poles themselves also suffered from such an irresponsible policy.