preservation of the ukrainian state, we must clearly understand that its disappearance, its transformation into just another province of this bizarre historical russia is the main goal of our enemy, not crimea, not donbas, not the south, but simply that ukraine does not exist, that is what the russians put into words the final solution to the ukrainian issue. because this is the final solution to the ukrainian issue for the russians, it is the key to the empire. for centuries , the ukrainians were the only real people of the russian empire who could compete with the russians in terms of numbers and opportunities. ago the russians need, first, that the ukrainian state does not exist, and secondly, that the ukrainians themselves do not exist, at least in terms of numbers. and you see that they are persistently pursuing their goal. if we look at the tomographic situation. in which we are now, in which

we found ourselves as a result of their latest attack, we will see it as a demographic collapse, but this has happened more than once, they are systematically destroying the ukrainian presence on ukrainian lands. second, what we have to achieve by preserving the ukrainian state, we have to preserve the ukrainian people, because a state without a people, it has no meaning, and therefore a huge task for all of us... is to make sure that ukrainians remain on ukrainian land, this is a question of a rather complex political-military balance between this war, which we are currently conducting, and the desire of our enemies to grind as many ukrainians and military and civilian population as possible in this war. the third issue that needs to be resolved, and this is also a very important issue, is the issue of total integrity as

justice, and here we cannot to decide independently, even if we imagine the greatest successes of the armed forces of ukraine on the way to the liberation of our lands, the question of the territorial integrity of ukraine is a question of the political will of the civilized world, and if we do not prove to the civilized world that international law has priority in this war, otherwise it leads to the globalization of the conflict and its violation in all regions of the world. then not only ukrainians, but all of us in the civilized world will be bitterly disappointed by how the situation will develop. the fourth question that is required to decide, when we talk about the future of the ukrainian state, is that it should remain ukrainian, you understand, that on the streets of our cities, from uzhgorod to donetsk yalta, the ukrainian language should be spoken, not just as a duty. because that is what is written in

the constitution, because states are not created by constitutions, but by people, but because people themselves should want to return to the language of their parents, even when they live in a specially russified and denationalized region, the concept of what is the difference, and it is easier for us talk should disappear from our political vocabulary together forever, no explanation of the fact that there are other peoples who speak the languages ​​of other peoples and live well for themselves, like the irish or norwegians. in our situation, it does not seem convincing from this simple point of view that great britain does not claim to take over ireland again, and denmark does not claim to take over norway, and therefore their civilizational choice is ... unrelated to their

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you draw your own conclusions. the fact that we did not receive any reaction from the east, and for me this is... the most painful thing to say, because i was one of those who created ukrainian organizations in russia in the late 80s, early 90s. and yes, these were not very numerous organizations, but we really wanted to show our compatriots here in ukraine that you can speak ukrainian freely on the streets of moscow, and no one can do anything for it, and therefore you can also try in kyiv and in kharkiv, that's how the situation was then, so maybe it's not a matter of fear, but of... lation, do you understand? maybe it is a matter of the fact that a person who becomes part of the empire also becomes part of imperial thinking, independent of his ethnic and even of civilizational origin. this is what we should remember when we say why we need to say goodbye to the russian world once

and for all, not because it is somehow inferior, bad, aggressive, not because the russian... culture is not so great, as we have been told for decades, but simply because he is foreign, and this needs to be put to rest for everyone who understands this... and for everyone who wants the preservation of the ukrainian state. and finally, the next task, which already, which, the sixth, seems to be in favor, the fifth, is to this state was efficient, developed, rich, and non-corrupt, but for most of our compatriots with you, all this is the number one task, and that is why... this number one task will never be realized, because in order to build an effective ,

a rich, modern and non-corrupt state, you have to answer the question, why are you building it, for what? there are many effective, rich, prosperous, successful, safe and non-corrupt states in the world, but maybe... go there right away and screw yourself up, if it doesn't matter who you are, if it doesn't matter what god you pray to, if it doesn't matter what language you speak, if it doesn't matter what books you read to your child in the evening, if it doesn't matter what your culture looks like and what your circle of communication looks like, what problems you discuss together, and please have a lot opportunities, you can become anyone, many

wanted to, and this is a choice, it is not easy. i have already told you that i belong to a people who have had to make this choice for thousands of years since the loss of jewish statehood in the last millennium of our days after... the defeat of the last rebellion against rome, and now, when the spanish and portuguese are doing dna tests, it suddenly turns out that 20-30, 40% of them have jewish roots, where do such respectable christian peoples have jewish roots, who invented such an ingenious model as the holy inquisition, well, where could this come from, and it is clear where. from those hundreds of thousands of jews who were baptized and ceased to be jews and became

spaniards or portuguese. we belong to those who did not want to be part of a foreign world, and ukrainians are those who do not want to be part of a foreign world, these are those who want to be ukrainians, and this is exactly what i always encourage people in our country to do, because if... you understand that you are ready to be ukrainian, if you understand that you are ready to build the ukrainian state, then you will absolutely logically want this state to be rich, developed, efficient, non-corrupt, you will vote for political forces that offer you such programs, those that say that in 14 days it will rain, but... because 28 heavenly manna will appear on your shoulders chairman, this is a difficult historical experiment,

and if you don't care about all this, if you demand only an economic component from the state, you can get into a real civilization trap. you know, in august 1991, when the act... on the state independence of ukraine was adopted, there was a serious discussion about how correct the decision would be to hold a referendum on independence, because in many former soviet republics such referendums were not held, there was no referendum there was no talk of russia's independence there was no referendum on the independence of belarus and there was no referendum on the independence of kazakhstan, and this can be continued. only some countries allowed such referendums, risking the fact that the majority of the population would not vote

for independence, because they were used to living in the soviet union, and by the way, everyone in moscow, everyone i did not meet in those days from august to uh december, almost all politicians, even people who worked in ukraine all their lives, and then started working in union structures, were sincerely convinced that the referendum about... it is burning that ukrainians will never vote for such a thing, but many ukrainian patriots were also convinced of this, who said: what a referendum on independence, these people just... who voted for a renewed union, like you do you imagine that they will vote for independence, and when i asked this question to the head of the verkhovna rada of ukraine leonid makarovych kravchuk, i came from moscow, met with him, i told him, you know, but they are all convinced that the referendum may fail leonid makarovych , and about it people say, and

the administration of the president of the soviet union and the administration of the president of russia are guided by this, and alerin makarevich told me: it seems to me that they underestimate the ukrainian people and underestimate the ukrainian apparatus, well, this is a completely logical phrase for leonid makarovich, i think, i i always believed that leonid makarovich was a wiser person than me and believed that everything worked out for him, everything would work out and everything did work out, but the question is that leonid kravchuk, let's say, was guided by a completely different paradigm when he thought about the referendum, than representatives of the ukrainian na... democrats and than representatives of the russian and soviet political leadership. he understood that ukrainians would vote for economic independence. all our propaganda before the referendum was propaganda of an economic nature. in a large family there are 10 children and they don't get everything, but in a small family there is only one child and everything will be hers. well, i, as the only child in

the family, absolutely agree with this logic. of course, 10 is much better, my god, dividing everything by 10. and in the soviet one. so, in general , everything was divided by 15, it was just a disaster, but in fact this tactic which led to the success of the referendum led us to a dead end in the future, because we did not tell people that economic independence is not everything at all, and that it cannot be secured if the majority of people do not understand what it is for builds statehood, and what will happen when new generations appear, what... what will we tell them that you are already here in order to live a lot? well, yes, but there are other countries nearby that live even better, why do we have to live a lot here, we can live a lot there to live, and if we are russian-speaking at all, and russia is so rich, and moscow is rich in general, then why should we sit here, this is the same logic that always allowed the empire to extract the best forces from ukraine, as soon as someone

became smarter, more talented, with greater with scientific abilities, with a better voice to sing... in the opera, whatever, go there, in ukraine we will create such an atmosphere that you definitely cannot take place there, the only place where you can take place is moscow, this is the logic of the construction empire, and we had to break this logic after the 90s, to show that a person, as a ukrainian, as a creative person, as a citizen, can develop right here, but it is very difficult to use such logic in a country that... was united from the west to the east, exclusively by the ideas of economic independence, despite the fact that in each region this statehood was imagined differently, and you and i came to this identity crisis imperceptibly for ourselves, we kept saying that it is not true, there is no need to divide ukraine, we do not have any

disagreements between the west , east and south, but you and i knew very well that people, who imagine as a classic european national state, more in the west, people who believe that ukraine can develop as a state only in alliance with russia, in no other way, more in the east, and people for whom absolutely everything is more equal in the south, this is how the political map of the country looked for decades, and only by and large the russian attack allowed us to move on to building a real political nation, where people have values. and it seems to me that for 2019, which shows voting for the president in 2019, we all, we this a single political nation has already been built, the problem with the political nation is not its quality, but its unity, and now that we

have built this nation, and now it is trying to survive during the war, we still need to finish it off. its quality, its ukrainian quality, and this is already a question of the next generations. i always said, for many years, when i entered such audiences, i was asked, and what will happen next, i told them, nothing terrible will happen, the reforms will just begin, they may begin, but they have begun, but they have not yet begun , 20-25 years after the beginning of the reforms reforms, the country is reformed, becomes a member of the european union. becomes a member of nato and you live, if you want to build such a country, in a normal, democratic, european country, switzerland is not promised, but romania is guaranteed. now i don't know how i can say it, when we are talking with you during the war, our compatriots are dying at the moment, we don't know when, how this

war will end, but we can also count on ourselves that we will have years five dashes of 10 for recovery and reformatting of the economy, and if we... at the same time can these years use to carry out real economic and political reforms in the country, then we will have these 20-25 years to transition to life in a normal democratic european country, we just need this country to be protected, to survive, to received security guarantees, and then i... at the end of this conversation of ours, i can say again what i said at the beginning, when i spoke in the pre-war period: in 20-25 years we can

build the ukraine that we all i want to, but 20-25 years after graduation hostilities, but these hostilities showed us the level of threat, showed us the level of what we could lose, nothing good, as you understand, nothing. there is nothing good in war at all, here these are, war awakened, war, war allowed, if war kills even one person or two, believe me, it is better to go more time by the way of evolution, or faster time by the way of death, but we are already living in this historical era, and the survival of the nation in such a historical era and the understanding of its tasks and the understanding of the value of statehood is precisely what which allows us... to hope that these 20-25 years, which are needed for reformatting and reforming the nation and the state, will not pass in vain. thank you, please,

questions. good afternoon, mr. vitaly, thank you for such a meaningful lecture. my name is marysya tymoshevska. my question is the following. today we mentioned prime minister of israel goldemer, she said the following. we cannot always control our own advice, and therefore must have the courage to look at things as they are. and act as the instinct of self-preservation suggests, so how to act today to simple, ordinary ukrainians in the second year of the war, because, as you know, the majority of young people today are at a crossroads, which means at a crossroads, most of them are considering whether to stay in ukraine or find themselves abroad and already build a stable life there and not to return, being a ukrainian there, i honestly don't... that we now have any numbers, firstly, secondly, i don't think that we can impose a choice on a person, if a person wants

to build a ukrainian state and himself in the ukrainian state, it will build it the ukrainian state that exists, if a person wants to realize himself and have great success, then i honestly do not understand why i should speak in ivano-frankivsk and not in new york, but i am interested, but then i have a task to ask myself : what am i even doing here? life has come, you understand, maybe these are high words, but i always believed that parents are loved not because they are successful, with three mercedes, with a huge house in conchizasp, better somewhere in marbella, marbella is better than in conchizasp and it will always be better. well, not because they give you a lot of money, for which you can make such a cake for your wedding in the best traditions

of the prosecutor's office of the lviv region, but parents are loved because they are parents, if there is this instinct of internal self-preservation, well if you just want to be a ukrainian here, then you will... try to build your life here and the state will be there for you, if you don't have such a desire, i don't think that anyone needs to be convinced, it's an internal state, you can't convince it , if you want to live in country simply because you feel comfortable living there, you can choose any, i don't see any problem, if you want to be and remain ukrainian, you will live here, absolutely not, again, i will turn to... my jewish of national experience, here is mr. joseph, he will confirm it anyway, you can of course be a jew anywhere, but if

you want to... remain a jew in the literal sense of the word, realize yourself as part of the state, you will live in israel and build a jewish the world in israel, because it is a jewish state, although being a jew in ukraine is it also very comfortable in the united states, if you want to be a ukrainian, you will stay here, if you want to be a ukrainian who owes ukraine, you will stay here, if it is important for you to have ukraine, you will stay here, and if you you just want to be comfortable and... live, you'll stay there, and it's not even related to the war, but to your self-awareness, that's all. do they think ahead, how will people be returned? i don't know what ukrainians are thinking about now. in the next lecture we will talk about demography. i'll finish, i don't know what to think, it's not a question politicians, because i am not sure that it will be easy to return people to post-war ukraine,

but again, this is a matter of choice. people , we'll just take a look at the quality of the nation, you know, it's normal, we always try to tell ourselves that a ukrainian is some kind of sign of quality, and a ukrainian is just the norm, some ukrainians are good people, some ukrainians are bad people, bad people can also wear vyshyvanka and speak ukrainian, there are ukrainians who want to live in ukraine, there are ukrainians who do not want to live in ukraine, we are building a state that , by the way, will be able to contact and interact with the diaspora, but a state in which people want to live and be ukrainians, and it is very simple, and we do not know how many such people there will be, but as many as there are, they will build this country, 2/3 of the irish people live in the united states of america, they even have the president of the united states of america, an irishman, but ireland, there the irish people living in ireland built the irish state, and all these irish people , who live in the united states

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and for your attention the news release on the spresso tv channel in the studio of iryna koval. greetings to all viewers. four wounded in kherson as a result of another shelling, at noon the enemy covered the dnipro district of the city with fire, the regional prosecutor's office reported. three men and one woman were injured. in addition, a warehouse with humanitarian aid caught fire due to the attack. residential buildings and vehicles were damaged.