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the decision, as it were, of the committee on national security, defense and intelligence, regarding maryana bezugla, who wants, so to speak, to remove her from the position of deputy head of the relevant committee, but this whole matter still needs to be confirmed by a vote in the session hall , about the specifics of what is currently being considered in the committee on national security and intelligence and not only there, in particular about the bill or bills, the possibility... we will talk about mobilization issues with yuriy tanasiychuk, a lawyer. now he joins us. glory to ukraine, yurko, congratulations well, there is an active consideration of relevant legislation dedicated to what? mobilization and demobilization of military personnel. we understand that there is an extremely large debate going on, this applies both to separate committees and to the relevant areas that work in the office of our president. although i would like to ask you, as a lawyer

, your vision of what are called these or other unconstitutional things, about which the commissioner for human rights, dmytro lubinets, said recently, if we speak properly about this, here is the legislation, where there may be things that were not taken into account in the first version of the draft law, we do not know how many versions there will be that will be voted on and so on, but we will inform the audience about it, so it may be unconstitutional. and it is very important that it was noted that there can be many versions, so among the submitted, in terms of the submitted draft law for consideration by the parliament, and in terms of mr. lobinets's comment, i can summarize the following, first of all, as a lawyer and jurist, some norms are indeed debatable, and they can in a certain way... limit the rights of citizens, but on

this is what i would like to stop at, the introduction of martial law in ukraine begins with the constitution of ukraine, which provides rights and responsibilities to every citizen, and therefore defines the legal regime of martial law as one that in a certain way limits the rights and freedoms of citizens of ukraine for the period of its validity, and that's a lot. important in the consideration of the law of ukraine on mobilization, it is important that this consideration begins with two theses of general zaluzhnyi, who clearly voiced the needs of the armed forces of ukraine and all other combat units, in order to protect sovereignty and every life of a ukrainian, and if it is in combination with these circumstances to consider the law. the project has been submitted to the verkhovna rada

of ukraine, which is currently being considered by the committee, and, importantly, in the personal presence of general zaluzhny. as well as the minister of defense of ukraine, i personally do not see norms that can be said to be discriminatory against a certain category of ukrainian citizens. indeed, this bill is probably not perfect, there is no other bill yet. there is no better one either, and there is a temporary one a demand that is determined by the front, a very strict demand that needs to be changed, precisely in the mobilization so that this front can keep on the defensive, not talking about a counter-

counteroffensive, but about knocking out the muscovites from these positions, from this patch, every patch ... the ukrainian land, which they now give to their own, which they trample with a smelly boot for an evaluation judgment. mr. yury, i would also like your legal assessment regarding quite ambiguous ideas, how to reserve certain categories of men of draft age, for example, about being discussed in the office the president that whoever, relatively speaking, pays 600 hryvnias of tax per month, should have the opportunity to get armored. and is it not discrimination based on a certain factor there, given that, well , we understand what happens then, that such a function will be available to someone who earns more, or there may be some corrupt levers, including why they will be, i

i think, to use a large number of categories of our population, can this be considered to some extent discrimination based on some financial status, i don't know, and the like? it is possible, but it should also be considered that if i ask you a question now, whether corruption is currently taking place in ukraine during mobilization, for example, with individual in individual central committees, this is probably a rhetorical question, whether corruption is taking place in ukraine in general in what is called the state apparatus and whether for example in taken separately on taken separately. directions, it is smaller than there or larger, that is, this is also a rhetorical question, a fantastically painful continuation, if we, and this question gives an answer, we have this problem, or this weakness in the state exists, it is such a post-soviet legacy that

is modified every year and travels from branch to branch, for me now the question is the following, how parliamentarians? who have their children, who are subject to mobilization, will try to trick them away, smear them, forgive them for slandering them from the army, and this category includes offers, the one you voiced, about the offer of a notorious or unscrupulous lunatic about 200,000, 300,000 , i'm not saying that they... don't have the right to exist, but it should correspond to the public mood, the mood of justice is very acute in society, and more more than one dangerous proposal, which was made by persons there who either directly

constitute the government or are close to them, is the status of a volunteer and the act of accepting the transfer of material values ​​to the military unit. which gives a postponement for 45 days, this means that with us volunteers, tomorrow a person who hung out in clubs all night will be able to simply have one legal status, because it is not a problem for her to transfer a thermal imager there, but look, new import rules humanitarian aid, they changed the work of volunteers, yurko, what does the situation with those look like now new rules? we got so bad that on the night of december 1st and 2nd , a volkswagen t4 car that we bought in holland drove into us at one of the checkpoints in the lviv region

. a very cool idea and very correct, and we can implement it correctly, but for some reason it was taken and completely marginalized and driven away. this idea, it was terrible, the register did not work, the register did not work correctly, customs officers do not have separate electronic offices, it's all simple. in the search screen on the corresponding resource informative, i will say this, from a very good idea, a full update came out, thank you , of course, yuriy tanasiychuk, a lawyer, talked about mobilization and the specifics of the volunteer movement under new legal circumstances, well, let's take a short break now and... we'll get back to it yes, attention

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this is the history of the people's democratic republic, in simple language from north korea. by the way, just a few days ago, we had an interview with yevgenia virlych, who filed a complaint with the commission of journalistic ethics due to an unsuccessful joke of the new year's quarter of 1995, and in fact there is already a reaction from the commission of journalistic ethics, the line between humor and discrimination is very thin, the commission says about the russian-speaking the immigrant from skadovsk, who is trying to speak ukrainian, was discussed then, and here is the statement of the commission a... like this: they say that they did not confirm the words of the journalist yevgenia virlych that the skit discriminated against residents of the southern and eastern parts of ukraine on the basis of language and gender, instead they noted that there is a very fine line between humor on sensitive topics and discrimination. freedom of expression protects not only information or ideas that are perceived positively or are seen as not offensive

or indifferent to the audience, but also ideas that offend, shock or disturb. at the same time , important elements when analyzing the ability of certain humor to cause discrimination are its content, expression and scope dissemination, the commission noted, well, i can only add from my side that , according to the commission of journalistic ethics, it is possible that for them there is such a fine line between humor and discrimination, and here it is probably not about discrimination, but simply about human respect for those people who found themselves in the occupation and... their suffering, in what difficult conditions they live and actually , how they try, even when they leave the occupied territories, and they do it, it is probably not easy for them to make such decisions, and when they switch to ukrainian, and when they find themselves in a very ukrainian ukrainian-speaking environment, but still these people are probably counting on a more

understanding attitude towards them, and not mocking the way they communicate with the states. a very interesting and important topic , we cannot, we cannot take it lightly, because this is a story in general about the limits of censorship, the limits of censoring what is called, for example, free speech, in particular, how should we deal with satire, a very fine line, always distinguishes satire from insult, so on the one hand we sympathized with, for example, the french cartoonists from the magazine charlie hebdo, yes, how very hard this magazine drove very hard and heard. in very different categories of citizens, in particular it is also about, for example, the muslim part of the inhabitants of france, yes, well, this was perceived extremely aggressively by this part, that is, in general, the criteria that distinguish humor from insult, satire from insult are very thin, yes, well and i want to believe that there is already some kind of clear methodology

used by the relevant commissions, well , because you will tell me tomorrow whether another... a joke, he can offend someone, here is society, a free society, it is doomed to live with humor, i am not a fan of, for example, the humor of the 95th quarter, well, but i confess that i am also not a fan of humor and the anti-95th quarter, that is, good humor is somehow generated by, for example, the british, yes, but they have a mature, mature society and there are things, that is, that they can consider, well, that is, i would leave it to the commission of a journalist. moral and so on, all kinds of ethics, for example, at oxford university, here i would be calm, but i immediately generated the corresponding recipe, so to speak, and we continue the union... on important topics on our airwaves, and we are joined by elizaveta tsimbalist, producer and cultural manager of yucrainer, she is actually our ready to tell about the history

of ukrainians in the documentary returning home. welcome to espresso, ms. elizaveta. greetings, thank you for the invitation. well , actually, i'll briefly explain to our audience what this documentary is about, it's about... it's about people, yes, about ukrainians , and about ukrainians who, in a difficult time for ukraine, returned to be useful and help on the ground, some fight, some volunteer, some develop business, and in fact, in this film , the heroes of the first series became a restaurateur, an aitivite and a young scientist, and then let's tell our viewers in more detail what actually inspired you to this plot, yes, why you... young scientist, and let's try to understand together, so where did you get this inspiration from. ugh.

in general, in returning home, we tell the stories of people who made the decision to return to ukraine, being abroad, being in such relative safety, not having the risks of a full-scale invasion, and it's really a difficult moral choice that everyone has. adopt independently, but we decided to share stories with those who adopted it. the first series is dedicated to the people who returned to defend ukraine with weapons in their hands, mobilized. in other series, we will also talk about people who volunteer, who started their own business, and other topics. in general, what about us led to this, this study, including the civil network opor, which... and researched that more than 8 million ukrainians have already left abroad, but at the same time a large number also return, it was important for us to tell these stories, these heroes we

they were chosen precisely because they mobilized because they had their own interesting story, they are all different, someone lived abroad for a very long time, had a wife, such as roman frantz, the hero of this film, had a wife with two dogs, business. that is, you can imagine how much it is it was a difficult decision, in fact, difficult, but at the same time important, among the heroes was andriy banit, an aitian who also had a wonderful life in sri lanka, had a high-paying job in iit, but could not stay away and came back to mobilize and change the system troops already from the inside, and anna kazan, who studied in belgium for a master's degree. who had the opportunity to continue her scientific career exactly where she wanted, but as she shared, she simply could not stay

abroad and first returned in order to to volunteer in his native kharkiv, and then actually join the ranks of the armed forces, such stories, well, we saw that this is the first series of your documentary project, we would like to ask you in general about your plans, we, we, in general, as journalists, we welcome such initiatives, and i believe, i really, sincerely believe that our reality, our reality abroad, the representation of ukraine abroad can only be changed by documentary, not any freedoms, you understand, not some kind of, you understand, propaganda, not art cinema, documentary, the documentary is high-quality , that is, according to the best, highest standards, but as far as i understand, you are already preparing a whole cycle of relevant products, tell me, please, everything is correct, i... absolutely agree with you, because documentary, high-quality documentary, is its own and there is a reproduction of life, and what is more revealing and eloquent than our reality, which is happening here and

now, so it really will not be limited to a single series of films, it will be such a documentary series connected by different topics, but united in one message, this by people who either returned from abroad to ukraine in order to conduct their activities here. and plan your future, and you have returned to your native city or town within ukraine, and are also restoring it and promoting a unique city. ms. elizaveta, here is my colleague, he actually touched on a very important aspect of this issue, and actually i am also somewhat inclined to the opinion that documentary is a kind of propaganda, both of our state in the world, and domestic propaganda as well. and on the outside, especially when we we show the truly terrible realities of ukrainian society in the conditions of a full-scale war, and here it is important for me to understand that the state, as

far as possible, contributes to the fact that as a documentary, quality propaganda of ukraine, it is supported at the appropriate level by our state and possibly by business, patrons, people who don't care, let's say so, because we know that a lot of money is spent on the telethon and on the freedom channel, and that's why ukrainians have a lot of questions about these propaganda formats, yes, here we understand that we are really talking about a quality product, we... implement these projects in many ways thanks to foreign grants , including the support of our community, unfortunately, there is no question of state support at the moment, so if it is important to you, what we do, the products that we produce, you can join us in supporting us, become our patron or on the counter and in this way contribute to the actual production of even more of these films, because this is what we have expertise in and we are now putting all our

forces for production, such anti-propaganda content specifically against russia, or to promote ukrainian narratives abroad, these are actually these films, this is also the audience we choose for ourselves, of course, they are ukrainians living abroad, and we will try to reach them as well. by the way, how much does such a production cost, because you have already filmed the first series, we understand that there will be subsequent ones as well, in general, how much does such a product cost, how expensive is it to make in general? i can't say that it's really cheap, because it's the work of a team, that departure east, we filmed anna and roman in the places where they are based in donetsk region, this is equipment, this is also some expenses for the promotion of this film, so it is not exactly very easy to create, but of course it is worth it, so delicately, you answered so , well, we understand, there is

a question of commercial secrecy, but we hope that... in any case, it is cheaper than our so-called laughter marathons, diverse, and diverse other additional programs, look, finally, i would like to ask you one more question, and how do you decide on those people who should become your heroes documentary tape of one or another, that is, how do you build a concept? uh, we're talking to them, we have a research department that's looking for these heroes, we're doing this open call for our... subscribers so that they can recommend someone that they know, because most of the stories are like that, they are not really public or media, and they need to be sought out as such granites, and we communicate and very often simply in a conversation we understand a person’s position, her or his background, and we are not chasing any bright ones here names, the main thing is simply that a person really has something to say, and i think that

we succeeded. choose such heroes. thank you we thank you. elizaveta tsymbolist, producer and cultural manager of ukrainer. here she shared with us really important information about how we are trying both in the world and among ukrainians to show the stories of ordinary ukrainians who changed professions, who left successful businesses, who left their lives in exotic countries, such as, for example, in sri the aitishnyk chain, which had possibility to earn, and in principle, i think, his life turned out very well, not even bad, considering the fact that he could afford to live in any part of the world and earn money at the same time, and the same about the scientist who replaced in fact, her usual life in the laboratory, maybe, if she was there, i don’t know , maybe she was a chemist or a physicist and researched some such interesting things, then she also changed her profile, well, actually

, it seems to me that ukrainians are like that, they should inspire other ukrainians to so that they understand that without them this war, well, not by itself will be won, yes, without a doubt, but the key story here is not even that someone from some exotic sri lanka returned to ukraine, but in general about stories, stories about people, stories of people, residents of ukraine, whether they are in sri- the links were, or, for example, lived in the zhytomyr region, everyone makes their own challenge, and our work with antin is already completed today, so we are grateful to everyone. who was with us for these two hours, and we tell you, good luck, see you from monday, most likely, our colleagues continue to work for you, so be with espresso peaceful epiphany.