the statements of the cabinet of ministers regarding this situation were also a meeting of the pka enterprise with the participation of your association and the new leadership of the ministry of defense that the situation is illogical, it needs to be resolved, because it harms the defense enterprises themselves, but what does the situation look like today , because i see that there is an impression that judgment stands its ground, and these risks are already becoming practical risks, but there are at... enterprises, in particular there is a fire truck, where the director is accused of violating his powers, there is a court case, what can be done now to steer this situation in a logical, rational direction? and first of all, mr. serhiy, i want to give an explanation to our viewers, well, regarding such a widespread narrative about some businessmen who make money. in the war, in fact,

if a company that manufactures weapons and ammunition or even imports them, well, it works honestly from the point of view of reporting, that is, it does not hide some of its commissions or profits in some transactions, well, fictitious, well, these companies live in a very honest companies, i have on mean honest honest companies that manufacture weapons and ammunition respectively . supply for imports, they live in a highly regulated field, and the profit for the supply of such products is regulated by a cabinet of ministers resolution, and this is the so-called 1.330 system, 1% for the purchase of components in the middle of ukraine, that is, contracting between ukrainian counterparties, 3% for imports , 3% rate of profit and 30, this is for work, that

is, it is for labor, for labor hours, which are needed in order to produce weapons there, or some type of ammunition, well, in the cost of production, about 30%, they are very low, well, there is 5%, relatively speaking, in the cost of some final product, this is robotic work, so in fact it is a very regulated field, there are no excess profits, if the company. .. honestly , there are no corrupt price increases for the relevant products for weapons and ammunition, and moreover, it is necessary to understand that if we are talking about the private sector, then in the private sector of the military industry there is no state funding, no subsidies, no direct state investments or private, in fact, almost all of this profit that is made. it is reinvested

in order to increase capacity, but i know examples of companies that simply reinvested 100% of this profit in new production facilities, in the relocation of enterprises, which is necessary from the point of view of our, well, such a security situation in terms of missile attacks, and and and if only it wasn't something so far-fetched and it wasn't some kind of business. it's a business that operates in a highly regulated regulatory environment with very small profit margins, well which are reinvested in making sure that ukraine has more weapons, so that our armed forces can get more shells, more mortars, more armored vehicles, more other types of ammunition, more electronic warfare and intelligence equipment, more, more, more, more, so this situation with dsu. it

was so blatant, because in fact we interpret it, well, as a sabotage against the defense-industrial complex of ukraine, because it should be noted that this audit is still ongoing, it no longer applied exclusively to private enterprises, no, in fact they were put under attack the entire military industry of ukraine , both state and private, for some reason decided, despite the existence of the law on defense procurement, looking at the existence of the corresponding resolutions of the cabinet of ministers, dasu took out of context only one resolution of the cabinet of ministers 335 and said that all the profits of the entire of the ukrainian military industry for the 22nd year are losses to the state budget, and therefore all companies, there company directors, relevant officials should be in prison, if these are losses to the state budget, then what, well it's a prison further on, and it was a very interesting example of how our military-industrial complex could just stand up, you know, in one week. due to searches, due to criminal

proceedings, due to some legal proceedings, well , due to the possible reluctance even of some owners to continue this work, because if you have a choice, you... well, you know, very, very we live, in fact, often not understand, unfortunately, our citizens are in a risky and tense situation in which our military-industrial complex exists, well, everyone works in three shifts, yes, it is 24 hours a day work, this is the threat of rocket attacks, and it must be said, well, people are dying, yes, no matter how effective our air defense system is, no matter how much we strengthen it, unfortunately, there is an example.

this is our association, and the union of employers of ukraine, and the union of light industry, we are together with the ministry of defense, and i thank the ministry of defense very much for its once again constructive, very, very sober position, a draft resolution of the cabinet of ministers was developed in order to solve this issue, it must be said that this issue for the future, that is , for the 23rd year, has already been resolved, i.e the corresponding regulations were amended there and... now, if the profit-making cannot be written off as a loss of the state budget, well, but for the 22nd year, this problem remains, and a resolution of the cabinet of ministers was developed, it was introduced before in the new year for the consideration of the cabinet of ministers,

now we are waiting for the appropriate decision from the prime minister regarding the issuance of this resolution, which will settle this critical issue at the meeting of the cabinet of ministers. of course, we, on behalf of the industry, on behalf of the military-industrial complex, call of the prime minister, as soon as possible to bring it to the consideration of the cabinet of ministers. mr. serhiy, thank you very much for these explanations, which are important in the context of the situation surrounding these naudi inspections . communications, we see that there is potential in private enterprises, but such things created by the audit service really sharpen this potential and create risks, we hope that the prime minister will still decide to adopt a resolution that will stop these illogical actions on the part

of the turkish service, then we will talk about specific samples of military equipment and weapons, which are created by creative teams, private... companies on the example of the unmanned backfire complex, but about this after the advertising and information block. wow, went for a walk, water, ordinary water is not enough here, drink reo. i'm saving myself, reo. you 're ready, honey, ready, took reo. reo - water for special medical purposes. turn on good that's when everything is. rooster special performance of the legendary group mertvyi

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concept of using drones, and that's how an unmanned strike system called backfire appeared, and now artem sherbaki is joining us. this is the operator of the uav of the experienced unit evil birds and actually one of the members of this team that created this one quite an interesting complex. mr. artem, i congratulate you, i am glad to see and hear you. greetings, i would like you to tell our viewers in a little more detail what backfire is, because probably they have forgotten something, we talked with you about six months ago, and i think during that time, maybe the complex has changed, but i wanted you such general things were told so that our viewers would have an idea of ​​what we will talk about next, and of course it has changed a little, we do not stand still, we are constantly improving and... backfir is an aircraft-type uav, that is, an approximately 3x2 plane

m to understand the dimensions, now it flies at a distance of a little more than 50 km in one direction and carries a useful load of 5.5 kg already, six months ago it was 3.8 to 4 kg, for. in principle , the uniqueness, well, we did not invent anything beyond our capabilities, so to speak , we simply combined good solutions and packed them into a very stable, stable body. in terms of a plane, that is why it

is effective for us, there are already more, i think , at this moment, probably about 200 combat sorties, and the plane is working constantly, well, he is not alone, of course, sometimes the enemy knocks down, well, any weapon can be destroyed. our plane is the same, sometimes it is shot down, but it is much more difficult, for example, with a rebo, the enemy cannot silence it with radio-electronic warfare, shoot it down with some kind of missile, it is also quite problematic, because it does not have a heat trace, for example, and it is usually shot down with a large caliber , this is from... or kpvt,

for example, too, well, that is, you, you, the main nuance of the complex do not talk about the fact that , in fact, it ensures the destruction of the enemy with ammunition that is dropped from of this complex, but it goes according to the programmed coordinates and rep complexes of the enemy, it simply cannot be suppressed, this is the main feature of your development, as i understand it, yes, because there is nothing to suppress there, in... he flew, he has a mission, he bombed and returned, from the last interesting videos that started to circulate on enemy channels, and this is when our plane, so to speak, makes a cluster bombing, it is about 18, at that time we dropped 18 vogs, and a very impressive video . on light unarmored vehicles, that is

by cars, and it was in the depth, in the enemy depth, so to speak, i will interrupt you a little bit, but we had a bit of an argument about this video on the eve of our program, because there are literally 6 seconds where the cluster munitions are dropped, but now we may show this video there in the context of ours. language, but what made me smile there was the reaction of the enemies, here i found a reaction in the enemy public, which was written in russian there, they used a new drone with the ability to reset for the first time a large amount of cluster munitions, the ukrainian backfire drone, the angry birds unit dropped a large amount of munitions on the positions of the russian armed forces in the svo zone, we hope. what are they so concerned about,

can they do it again and what is the effectiveness of the backfire strikes now in general, you said about 200 sorties, are there any other good targets other than what we saw in this short video with cluster munitions, yes. .. the defeat of the enemy’s enemy is the defeat of the enemy’s air defense systems, short-range, that is, the work is ongoing, effective, and as you can see, from the enemy public, they, er , they used to laugh, now they are already thinking about what to do with it, well, we will see in time, if everything will work out, as we have planned, and the troops

will be fed up with our complex. to a large extent, then it will become a serious problem for them when there will be thousands of them, and by the way, regarding the order, if we do not say too much, that is, are the ministry of defense, the ministry of statistics ordering now, or as before, most importantly, let's say so, well due to the initiative of your team , the production of these complexes increases, which now this situation for... speech is quite voluminous, well, that's what i can say, good, and in fact, do the capacities of your team now allow us to satisfy this order, which i think will be more and more, it will be good, do we need to expand capacity , or do we need money to

buy something there, to expand the team of manufacturers, as this component is now... it is decided, of course, funding is also needed for new developments, because in addition to this aircraft, we also have a number of promising ones promising weapons, and in principle, we are following a slightly non-standard path in terms of production, and we want to do so... franchising, so to speak, well, such a fornetti from weapons, when anyone with some finances and understanding of production will be able to produce our complexes at their own facilities, that is, this will provide us with saturation

and there won't be any specific point for the enemy who... can destroy it and destroy production, well, then it means that it is you who must prepare a perfect package of documentation, write down all the technological cycles, make such a grozbug there in digital form, which well, it is transferred to your partner and , relatively speaking, he will be able to repeat it, so far i think that this will be such a first experience, then at what stage are you now with this first experience, and there are just a few agreements. uh, for production at other capacities, uh, in principle, we are working on this, there is an understanding of how to do it, how to scale, because uh, most of our team, ah, and the civilians we have, and a military man, military men, ah, they,

with an interesting background in business, in various fields, and, er,... in principle, for us there is no some new solutions, we are simply transferring our former civilian experience to the military industry, that's clear, and then another component mentioned basically, how then these new teams that get this complex from the point of view of its use, is it difficult from the point of view of training there calculation. for programming, for launching, there for preventing the combat unit, how is this component? no, it is not complicated, it is quite easy to use, you can learn it in a week, plus another week, of flying under the guidance of instructors, and you can

to use, it is not difficult in itself, but in the future we will ... make it easier due to a number of new software that will simplify use, that is, there will be a number of buttons, a take-off point, an ammunition drop point, a landing point and everything , i'll put it in. on the screen, it will make the route for you, take into account the altitude, take into account the weather at the time of the mission, and fly already on... that is, we are going to, in principle, one of the concepts of all our developments, and ideally it is the maximum easy to

use weapons, there is one of the developments, this it's no longer a secret, we talked about it, it will be a chip for guidance for any fp-bucket, which will lower the threshold of entry precisely into the ee camikadze pop pattern for pilots. there will be capture of the target, pressing one button, and it will automatically hit the target, well, that is , it will be a module that can be used in all our fpv drones, as i understand it, and this is precisely this terminal stage, the final stage, which is the most difficult, which in fact, well, then the entire russian trench rap will be removed, because if there is such an extension, then it means. what will we do does this potential of his, which he is trying to create there now, look like this? yes, that's right, you guessed it, that's right. and when

to expect this cardinal breakthrough decision? er, it is already there, it is already on the chip, we are already testing it, here again, the issue of additional funding, because in principle it is ours. the team came to the point that we do not plan to produce any of our solutions, we want to bring them to the final sample, so to speak, already in the factory and transfer it to others for production, this enables us, we do not concentrate. exactly on production of some capacities of the production organization, and this also allows us to scale quickly and efficiently, that is, but i

will just digest the information about this module, in fact, it is an extremely necessary and revolutionary solution, because it can really increase the efficiency of use of our fpv drones, and this means that if we are heard, and we will write more after that, probably some ... news about this , because it is extremely important, and that ours there, i don't know, bray one, there minstratekhprom, ministry of defense, because if you really have such development, then it is necessary to put into practice both scaling and use on the battlefield as quickly as possible, so i would like you to emphasize once again that you have such a solution that really already has such a nature close to the practical level , so this solution is already there. it is almost ready, well, it is ready, we still need to test it in combat conditions, and in principle it will be possible to launch it, the only question is that,

most likely, we will not be able to install this chip, get permission for operation or put it into service, because it is a component it is not, well, there is no mechanism for supplying weapons. uh, that is, most likely, other drone manufacturers will be able to purchase it, put it in their drones and put their drones into service and receive permission for operation, that is, this is the model, well, we have the management of unmanned systems, what is the new management created, i think that there are quite adequate people leading there, i think that in principle you should talk to them there, because everyone understands how important it is, i hope that this will be supported by the general staff of the ministry of defense of ukraine,

we also hope for that, well, of course, here we are leaning a little on our bureaucracy, but without this, unfortunately, it is not possible, i like the new trends that the minister of defense has started to introduce. mr. omerov, i hope that the bureaucratic component will decrease in the army, not only in terms of new weapons, in general in terms of the use and document circulation in the troops, this is an important reform that should help us, and here is almost an extreme question whether... did you have contacts with foreign manufacturers of unmanned complexes, or do you have the need for cooperation with some foreign companies in order to solve the problems

that your company is currently solving there. are you still able to bet on your own strength? yes, we had contacts, quite interesting, but due to our experience, we are already ahead of other countries in many areas, for example, the french, uh, we communicated with them, they have their own plane there, eh eh. .. a uav bomber, and when we asked how you solved the problem reb, they shrugged their shoulders, yes , we do not have such a problem, of course, because they have never faced that, it is conditional somewhere in africa to bomb rebels, some terrorists, who do not have such weapons as

ours... and this is one task, because objectively we are fighting with one of the strongest armies in the world, it is necessary admit, and that's why our experience is unique, unfortunately, and about that, let's go back to your backfir, with which we started the conversation, as i understand it, it is still being transformed, it will probably be a little bigger, it already carries more loads , he will definitely have... different options for combat gear, although we already have we see that there are already these solutions, and probably you will work on increasing the accuracy of hitting, and all these requirements will probably be implemented there in the versions of backfire 2.0 or maybe something else, yes, first of all there is the version of k2, which i said, which is further flies and carries more, we are already working on the k3 version.

there will be even more interesting characteristics until i announce them, well, the team is constantly working, there are other variants of the aircraft-type uav, that is , we are not standing still, we are working both on the backfire and on other developments, and well, because the front dictates the conditions. and we have to move on, on, we have no right to stop. mr. artem, thank you very much for the inclusion , for the work that you do for the armed forces, because what you said is really encouraging, because these decisions, in my opinion, are extremely important, so thank you again i would like to remind the team and our viewers that it was artem sherbakivskyi, the operator of the uav of the joint unit with the birds, as well as a member of the team that developed the backfire strike drone, we see

that this drone is now being transformed into a more powerful versions, there will be new modifications, but we see that separate technological solutions are also being developed, because relatively speaking, the appearance of these software elements for fpv drones, why is it important, because in fact now the fpv drone operator is a person who can withstand significant emotional loads during the execution of a combat mission, there are four or five missions per day, this is actually such a qualitative... limitation, because then it becomes difficult for the operator to really hit the target under the influence of enemy fire, if the fpv drone is at the terminal stage, i.e. at the end it is already alone may to capture the target and destroy the enemy object , then this means that the burden on the operator is reduced, and on the other hand, i repeat, this story with the trench reb, now the enemy is trying to saturate the front edges with various means of combating drones, primarily with fpv

drones, we we can see, and speaking conventionally, that on... on certain russian tanks there are such green boxes where the fpv suppression systems of drones are located, but these modules, which cherbakivsky is talking about, they are , in principle, currently being developed by several more teams, i would say true, they actually are are really zeroing out the capabilities of the russian reb, they are extremely interested in making it happen as soon as possible, i think that the military leaders will understand the significance of this step and support the initiatives of the team that is now represented by artem scherbakivskyi, so these were the main conclusions of this military program of ours, where on the one hand, we see the potential of private companies with certain bureaucratic restrictions due to the actions of certain public bodies, in particular dasa, and really breakthrough solutions that can be implemented by private companies to strengthen potential in various areas, starting from unmanned complexes and ending in other directions, remain.