with our defense enterprises. i , i would, you know, i would say that there is no lack of readiness, there is a very constructive discussion with the leadership of the ministry of defense, the general staff, and indeed, now we see very positive trends regarding the readiness to communicate with the industry from representatives of state authorities, customers. in the state sector in the field of defense, so we are approaching this , believe me, i think that this year we will have successful examples of similar contracts, i already said that we will say yes, the first such already swallows, for the first positive examples, they are already being followed up, so we will hope that this dialogue will be continued, that we, together with the state authorities, with the ministries, will work out the criteria, work out in... the appropriate decisions regarding,

well, what to conclude these long-term contracts, especially with those companies that have proven to be reliable suppliers, with companies that are not just importers, but manufacturers of weapons and ammunition, well , i think we will come to that, again i still want to note that the dialogue is very constructive and very positive, well, then i would like to touch on one more... topic, a long-running topic that started last year, namely the position of the state audit service regarding the profit of defense enterprises. there were several decisions of both the parliament and the cabinet of ministers regarding this situation, there were also meetings of the military defense industry with the participation of your association and the new leadership of the ministry of defense stating that the situation is illogical, it needs to be resolved because it is harmful. defense itself

enterprises, but how does the situation look like today, because i see that there is an impression that dasu stands his ground, and these risks are already becoming practical risks, but there are examples of enterprises, in particular, there is a fire truck, where the director is accusing of violating his powers, there is a court case, what can be done now to steer this situation in a logical, rational direction? and first of all, mr. serhiy, i want to give an explanation to our viewers, well, regarding such a widespread narrative about some businessmen who make money from the war, in fact, if a company that manufactures weapons and ammunition or even imports them, then it works honestly from the point of view of reporting, that is, it does not hide any commission or.

booths in some transactions, well , fictitious, well, these companies live in very honest companies, i mean honest honest companies that manufacture weapons and ammunition, respectively , or supply them by import, they live in a very regulated field, the profit on the supply of such products, it is regulated by a decree of the cabinet of ministers, and it is the so-called system... 1% for the purchase of components in the middle of ukraine, i.e. contracting between ukrainian counterparties, 3% for imports, 3% profit rate and 30% - for work, that is, for labor, for the working hours required for to produce weapons or some type of ammunition there, well, and in the cost of production about 30%, they are very... relatively speaking

, in the cost of some final product - this is robo work, so in fact it is a very regulated field, there are no excess profits, if the company works honestly and there is no corrupt over-inflating of the prices of some relevant products for weapons and ammunition, and moreover, it is necessary to understand that if we are talking about the private sector, well... the private sector of the military industry has no state funding, no subsidies, no direct state or private investments , in fact, almost all, almost all of this profit that is received, it is reinvested in order to increase capacity, but i know examples of companies that simply reinvested 100% of this profit in new production facilities in relocation enterprises, what is necessary from the point of view of... our, well, such a security situation

regarding missile attacks, and if it wasn't something so far-fetched and... these are not some deals, this is a business that works in a highly regulated regulatory field, with a very small percentage of profits, which are reinvested in ukraine to have more weapons, so that our armed forces can receive more shells, more mortars, more armored vehicles, more other types of ammunition, more means for electronic warfare and intelligence more, more, more, more, that's why it's... the situation with the dsu, it was so blatant, because in fact we interpret it, well, as a sabotage against its defense and industrial complex of ukraine, because it should be noted that this audit is still ongoing, it is already did not apply exclusively to private enterprises, no, in fact

they attacked the entire military industry of ukraine, both state and private, for some reason deciding to, despite the existence of the law on defense. procurement, despite the existence of relevant cabinet of ministers resolutions, dasu just slipped out of context one resolution of the cabinet of ministers 335 and said that all the profits of the entire ukrainian military industry for the 22nd year are losses to the state budget, and therefore all companies, there company directors, relevant officials should sit in prison, if these are losses for the state budget, then what , well, this is a prison further on, and it was a very interesting example of how our military-industrial complex could simply stand up. well, you know, in one week, due to searches, due to criminal proceedings, due to some legal proceedings, and due to the possible reluctance even of some owners further to continue this work, because if you have a choice, you, well, you know, very, very we live, in fact, often do not understand, unfortunately, our

citizens in what risky and tense situation our military-industrial complex exists, well. .. everyone works in three shifts, yes , it’s a 24-hour job, it’s a threat of rocket attacks, and we have to say, well, people are dying, yes, no matter how effective our air defense is, no matter how much we strengthen it, unfortunately, there are examples, well, when, we heard the last example, it was produced by mtak, on, when it's just, well, missile strikes are launched , people are dying there, well, and, this, this is a huge production process, a huge industry, on which... the survival of our state, the survival of ours depends, there is quite a bit of time left, which now looks like situation, so now , yes, now, now we, on behalf of the association, this is our association, and the union of employers of ukraine, and

the union of light industry, we, together with the ministry of defense and i thank the ministry of defense very much for again constructively, very very ... a sober position a draft resolution of the cabinet of ministers was developed in order to solve this issue, it must be said that this issue for the future, that is , for the 23rd year, has already been resolved, that is , the relevant norms have been amended, and now, if it is possible to make a profit, it is not possible write off the losses of the state budget, well, but for the 22nd year, this problem remains, and a resolution of the cabinet of ministers was developed, it was introduced before the new year, for consideration by the cabinet of ministers, now we are waiting for a corresponding decision from of the prime minister regarding the issuance of this resolution, which will regulate this critical issue at the meeting of the cabinet of ministers, of course we , on behalf of the industry, on behalf of the military-industrial complex, call

on the prime minister to bring this matter to the cabinet of ministers for consideration as soon as possible. mr. serhiy, thank you very much for these explanations, which are important in the context of the current situation. inspections of naudi, entrepreneurs are included in naudi, and i will remind our viewers that it was serhii vysotskyi, deputy head of the public organization national association defense industry of ukraine on strategic communications, we see that there is potential in private enterprises, but such things created by the audit service really sharpen this potential and create risks. we hope that the prime minister will still make a decision to adopt a resolution that will stop these illogical actions on the part of the intelligence service, then we will talk about specific samples of military equipment and weapons that are created by creative teams, private companies, for example unmanned backfire complex, but that's about it

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a significant number of drones that are used in the armed forces, there are in the range of 70 different types and models, there are strike drones, reconnaissance drones, attack drones, there are a certain number of different munitions that are created according to the specifics of each type, but the command, which we will now talk about further, was based on its own concept of using shock weapons. and so the world appeared unmanned strike system called backfire. and now we are joined by artem scherbakivskyi, he is a uav operator of the experienced unit of the angry birds and actually one of the members of this team that created this rather interesting complex. mr. artem, i congratulate you, i am glad to see and hear you. congratulations. i would like you to tell our viewers a little more about what beckfaire is, because for sure. they forgot something, we talked with you about six months ago, and i think during that time, maybe the complex has changed, but i would like

you to tell such general things so that our viewers have an idea of ​​what we will talk about next, and of course, it has changed a little, we are not standing still, we are constantly improving, backfaire is an aircraft -type drone, that is, an airplane of about 3x2 m to understand the size. it now flies for a distance of a little more than 50 km in one direction and has been carrying a useful load of 5.5 kg for six months that is why it was 3.8 to 4 kg, now it is 5.5, in principle the uniqueness, well, we did not give anything above, above our capabilities, so

to speak, we simply combined good solutions and packed them in a very a stable body, stable in plan like an airplane, that is why it is effective for us, there are already... more, i think, at this moment, there have probably been about 200 combat sorties, and the plane works constantly, well, it is not alone , of course, sometimes the enemy shoots down, well, any weapon can be destroyed, our plane is the same, and sometimes it is shot down, but it is much more difficult, for example, with rebo it... the enemy cannot silence it with radio-electronic warfare, shoot it down

with some kind of missile, it is also quite problematic, because it does not have a thermal trace, for example, ah, it is usually shot down with a large caliber, these are zushki, or - kpvt, for example, too, that is, you, you are the main nuance of the complex. do not talk about the fact that, in fact, that it ensures the destruction of the enemy with ammunition that is dropped from this complex, but it goes according to the programmed coordinates and complexes. the enemy simply cannot be suppressed, this is the main feature of your development , as i understand it, yes, because there is nothing to suffocate there, he flew, he has a mission, he bombed and returned, from the latest interesting videos that also began to circulate on enemy channels, this is when our plane, yes so to speak, doing

a cluster bombing, this, about 18, at that time we dropped 18 vogs, very impressive video, on light unarmored equipment, that is, on cars, and it was in depth, in enemy depth, so to speak, here i i 'll interrupt you a little, we're a bit confused about this video argued on the eve of our program, because there are literally ... seconds where cluster munitions are dropped, but now we have this video, maybe we will show it there in the context of our conversation, but what made me smile there was the reaction of the enemies, and i found a reaction to to the hostile public, which was written in russian there, the

ukrainian armed forces used a new drone with the ability to drop a large number of cluster munitions for the first time. the angry birds unit dropped a large amount of ammunition on the positions of the vsrf in the svo zone. we hope that in the near future our drones will be engaged in the development and creation of similar machines. what worried them so much, whether they would be able to repeat it and what is the effectiveness of backfire's shots in general now. they said about 200 sorties, are there any other good targets besides that? what we saw in this short video with cluster munitions is the destruction of the enemy's reb, there is the destruction of the enemy's air defense systems, short-range, that is, the work is going on, it is effective, and as you can see. public,

they, they used to laugh, now they are already think what to do with it, well, we'll see in time, if everything goes as we have planned, and the troops get fed up with our complex to a large extent, then it will become a serious problem for them when there are thousands of them, and by the way.. about the order, if we don't say too much, that is, are the ministry of defense, the ministry of statistics ordering now, or as before, most importantly, let's say this, well, due to the initiative of your team , the production of these complexes is increasing, which is the current situation, and the order is quite large capacity, well,

that's how i can say it, good. and and in fact, whether allow now the capacity of your team to satisfy this order, which i think will be more and more, it will be good, do you need to expand the capacity, or do you need money to buy something there, to expand the team of manufacturers, how is this component now it is decided, of course, funding is also needed for new developments, because in addition to this aircraft, we also have a number of promising promising weapons, and in principle, we are following a slightly non-standard path in terms of production, and we want to do, so to speak, franchising, well, such

fornetti from armaments, when... anyone with some finances and an understanding of production will be able to produce our complexes at their capacities, that is, it will provide us with saturation and there will not be any specific point for the enemy who can destroy it and destroy production, well then that means , that it is you who must prepare a perfect package of documentation, all technologists. to write down the cycles, make such a grozbuk there in digital form, which is transferred to your partner and where, relatively speaking, he can repeat it, so far i don’t think that this will be such a first experience, then. what stage are you at now with this first experience? there are several agreements on production at other facilities, in

principle we are working on it, there is an understanding of how to do it, how to scale, because most of our team, and the civilians we have, and military personnel, are military personnel. they have an interesting background in business in various fields , and in principle there are no new solutions for us, we are simply transferring our former civilian experience to the military industry, that’s understandable, and then another member of staff remembered, in essence, how then new to the... teams getting this complex in terms of using it, is it complex in terms of preparing there calculation for programming, for launching there

for equipping a combat unit, like this component? no, it is not difficult, it is quite easy to use, you can learn it in a week, plus another week of flying under the guidance of instructors. and can be used, it is not difficult in itself, but in the future we plan to make it even simpler due to a series of new software that ee will make it easier to use , that is, there will be a few buttons eh... the take-off point, the ammunition drop point, the landing point and everything, you put it on the screen, it will make

the route for you, take into account the altitude, take into account the weather at the time of the mission, and fly already by coordinate, that is, we are going to that, in principle, one of the concepts of all our developments, ideally this is the maximum. and when to expect this cardinal breakthrough decision? it is already there, it is already on the chip, we are already testing it, here again, the issue of additional funding, because in principle our the team has come to the point that we do not plan to produce any of our solutions. we want to bring them to the final, so to speak , already factory-made sample and transfer them to

others for production, this enables us, we do not concentrate specifically on the production capacities of the production organization, and this enables us to scale. and effective, that is, but i will just now digest the information about this module, in fact, it is an extremely necessary and revolutionary solution, because it can really increase efficiency the use of our fpv drones, and this means that if we are heard, and we will probably write some news about this after that, because it is extremely important and that ours, i don't know, are there, the ministry of strategy and industry, the ministry of defense, because if really in you have such developments, then it is well... it is necessary to put into practice and scaling and use on the battlefield as quickly as possible, so i would like you to emphasize once again that you have such a solution, that indeed it already has

such nature close to the practical level, yes, this solution already exists, it is almost ready, well, it is ready, we still need to test it in combat conditions and in principle... it will be possible to launch it, but the only question is that, most likely, this chip, we will not be able to put , get a permit for operation or put it into service, because it is a component, it is not, well , there is no mechanism of delivery into service, er, that is, most likely, other drone manufacturers will be able to purchase it, put it in their drones and their drones. put into service and receive permission for operation, i.e such a model, well, we have the administration of unmanned complexes, which a new

administration has been created there, i think that there are quite adequate people in charge, i think that in principle, you should talk to them there, because, well, everyone understands how much this is important, i hope that it will be supported by the general staff of the ministry of defense of ukraine, we also hope for it, well, of course, here we are leaning a little on our bureaucracy, but without it, unfortunately, it is not possible, i like... new trends , which the minister of defense began to implement, mr. omerov, i i hope that the bureaucratic component will decrease in the army, not only in terms of new weapons, but in general in terms of the use and document circulation in

the troops. this is an important reform that should help us, and here is an almost extreme question : have you had contacts with foreign manufacturers of unmanned systems, or is there a need for cooperation with some foreign companies in order to solve the problems that your company is currently solving? are you still able to bet on your own strength? so we had quite interesting contacts. but in due to our experience, we are already ahead of other countries in many areas, for example, the french, we talked with them, they have their own aircraft there, a uav bomber, and when we asked how you solved the problem of

reb, eh - eh... they shrugged their shoulders, yes, we don't have such a problem, of course, because they have never faced it, there it is conditional somewhere in africa to bomb the rebels of some terrorists, who do not have such weapons as ours enemy, this is one task, because objectively we are fighting with one of the strongest of the armies of the world, it is... it must be admitted, and therefore our experience is unique, unfortunately, and on the subject, let's go back to your backfire, with which we started the conversation, as i understand it, it will still transform, it will be a little likely bigger, it's already carrying more cargo, it's probably going to have different combat gear options, although we 're already seeing that there are already those solutions, and you're probably going to work on improving

that... hit and all those requirements are probably going to be implemented is there something else in the version of backfire 2.0? the version of k2, which i said, which flies further and carries more, we are already working on the version of k3, there will be even more interesting ones until i announce them, well... it works constantly, there are other options of the aircraft type of uav, that is, well, we are not standing still, we are working both on backfire and on other developments, and well, because the front dictates the conditions, and we have to move.