state, and for some it will be the front, for some it will be the army, but not the front , for some it will be the rear, for some it will be work abroad, as a diplomat, things are already different here, thank you very much, mr. oleksiy, sorry, i can't, i can't give you more, i want to, but i can't devote more time, because such justice, this is such a philosophy, you started with aristotle, now we can turn over two millennia and many people were looking for an answer. to this question, therefore, oleksiy panych, philosopher, translator, public figure, read the site espresso, there is exactly what oleksiy wrote. now we have a different topic, a topic that is buzzing, just terribly buzzing, despite the fact that i am not on social networks, but even the echo from the echo gets into my ear, it is precisely about the fact that during the new year, who...

failed someone joked, this is the 95th quarter, and he joked that the residents of occupied skadovsk do not speak ukrainian well, and this is ridiculed, well, you and i remember, the 95th quarter itself until recently, in which language did i speak, i something started to forget, but you understand how i started to forget, that is, he spoke in the language of the enemy, evgenia believed. head, editor -in-chief of khersonskyi, let's not forget that skadovsk is in kherson region, khersonsky edition cavun city, and we will also have, i don't know whether at the same time or alternately, at the same time, nina kuriyata, journalist and media expert, if these two beautiful girls will now appear before our stunned eyes, i will be very, very, very pleased. so, good health. dear ladies, and i am

happy that you are on this difficult saturday night, when normal people drink beer, after a week of hard work at the desks, taking into account the various holidays, they still came together, it seems to me, at least my editors told me that ms. yevgenia virlych would say that this is unacceptable, and ms. but he will say that freedom of speech exists and that they want to speak, whether it's me or, well, i would really like some kind of drama to happen here, because without drama, it's the same, well, what kind of conversation is it? well then, let's start with ms. evgenia, please, why and what was it from your point of view, that it happened in us on new year's eve, when some people, people who spoke russian with emphasis all their lives , suddenly began to criticize. those

who speak russian and cannot learn it, supposedly cannot, i will say for the audience, this is one of my favorite places in the world, it is the outskirts of skadovsk, the village of krasne, i am there every year, wherever i am on vacation in europe , on the islands or somewhere else, i always came there until the 14th year, and i know this very well and i know that these are ukrainian people, in general , kherson oblast, i am also not for you, but for the audience. in contrast to mykolaiv oblast, which it was very urbanized, the factories, but where the factories are the proletariat, and where the proletariat is, there is more russian, then kherson was very ukrainian-speaking, i was very surprised, but this is my point of view, please tell me yours, ms. evgenia, good evening, thank you you very much, on the first or the 31st or the first night of the new year , the 95th quarter happened to ukraine, where i made a very shameful joke. although i can't call it

a joke, it's mocking the residents of skodovsk, depicting them in this way, i don't even know what to call it, it's some azarivka, which sounded like azirivka, no one in our region ever spoke that language at all, well, except when i joked about azarov, i survived 4.5 months of occupation in kherson, i hid from the fsb, we were persecuted because we are pro-ukrainian media workers. i mean my family, and i know very well what the occupation is, moreover, we saved ourselves very often with good humor, but by the way, we never saved ourselves with the humor of the 95th quarter, because it is bad humor, in my opinion , and that's why it hurt me so much when i heard about from the mayor skadovska about what happened, because he turned to his social networks and told about this shameful story. it hurt me a lot, i

felt what it's like to sit in occupied skadovsk now, to know that you can be killed there for speaking ukrainian, and a lot of people know about the story of how a woman from skadovsk was killed. russians for shouting skadovsk is ukraine, it's so shameful to joke about the occupation, it seems to me that this is not about freedom of speech, it's just about conscience and intelligence, maybe so mrs. nina, please, what do you tell us , do you have any, any other version of what happened and should this continue to happen , i am good evening sir we... i don't expect anything, i would just tell me that somewhere they would read what you if they said that there should be freedom of speech, well, it’s not like that, no, no, no, so people are wrong, forgive

me, you’re not all right, if possible, i’ll say my opinion, i think that freedom of speech, well i did not write about her anywhere in this context, but if we talk about her like this, freedom of speech is certainly one of the great values ​​for which, including and ukraine is fighting now, but when it comes to such cases, freedom of speech ends where this ethics comes in, where human rights come in, i am completely in solidarity with ms. yevgenia, moreover, as a media consultant, i worked with the kherson media, and in including with kolomsy , it seems to me too, and i also worked with a media in which another editor-in-chief could not... be able to leave the occupation for a very long time, and for me this topic is very painful, i do not understand how you can joke about it , and moreover, i would like to look at this problem more broadly, even if it was a girl from an unoccupied city, even

if it was a girl not, well, really not from the south, but as they said there, from the east, is that how we need to contrast ukrainian and russian now? do we need to show that the ukrainian language , pay attention, the man who speaks ukrainian, he lives in transcarpathia, that is, in the minds of those people who wrote this video, the ukrainian language is the language of far, far transcarpathia, although we all saw, how kherson oblast was liberated, what language did the people speak, i myself am from odesa, and i can say the same, the cities have been russified since the time of catherine ii, but the village, the region has always been ukraine. language, so it seems to me that this video, it exists, it contrasts the inhabitants of the once russified regions, about whom there is a stereotype that they are russian-speaking, but we know that outside the boundaries of the regional center this is not the case, it pushes ukrainian to the margins language, because

to corrupt it in this way, you still have to try, it appears ridiculous and impossible to study, so i don’t see where it is... freedom of speech, i see here a very great irresponsibility and a very a lot of contrasts and a lot of clichés , the russian-speaking east, although we know that this is the south, okay, we repeat ourselves, we do not repeat ourselves, look, i will just now suggest to our beautiful ee editors to put an advertisement, but while they are, people will watch the advertisement, maybe in you will have some fresh thoughts, but fresh, and what to do with freedom of speech? then, you see, if we prohibit or allow at some state or quasi-state level, then the question arises, what are we fighting for then, then we become more similar to russia, where something can be banned, somewhere

putin will say, this is not us, we are not discussing it, we are not at war, and both russians and ukrainians are one people, and then there is no difference, in that, there is a very subtle thing here. a moment that is very difficult to find an answer to, that on the one hand it is really , well, we cannot accept some things that we now very often hear from different sides, and, on the other hand, well then, then, as churchill said, why we then we fight, if we fight to ban everything from us too, now advertising, then we will definitely come back, advertising. turn on well - this is when everything is as you want, click and you are in the world of moyt, click and the universe of cinema is around, and then, what is needed. turn on hundreds of channels, thousands of movies and sports. the real

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kuriyata, a journalist and media expert, we are just talking about the fact that it was our new year's eve, something you came up with, like how to pass between the drops on one side of the drop between the force and the horybdis, this drops or whether this cape between, sicily italy, yes force and charybdis, with on the one hand, this is freedom of speech, on the other hand , it is not. the desolation of many , let's call it jokes, if you can call it jokes , i'm not personally convinced, let 's see what they were talking about, to make it more substantive, so to speak, please show us this, this this piece, born you are in ukraine, and yes, of course, and why didn't you communicate in ukrainian before, well, what about that, well, me, well, because i'm a sissy. sorry, who? no one, and from where? there is

such a town in the kherson region, that's why i'm from skadovsk. yes, well, that's the story, well first of all, transcarpathia is the magyar language, the romanian language, and the ruthenian language, if both ukrainian and russian, by the way, there are a lot of people in transcarpathia. in different languages ​​definitely not 100% there is the ukrainian language and we don't even speak it, our neighbors the magyars say that you are forcing our... people to learn the ukrainian language, this means that there is not only ukrainian, to put it mildly, but how to pass between the charybdis force, let's now turn to ms. nina, i was here while there was an advertisement, i read what the sources say, what she says wikipedia is about freedom of speech, and yes, it is an inalienable right to express one's opinions,

but if you, mr. mykolo, said that, we can discuss the ban, i didn't ... had that question, but the exercise of those rights, that is freedom of speech can be limited including to protect the reputation or rights of other people, i think this is the same case where, along with the restrictions that mass media have, namely not to use hate speech, not to incite inter-religious, racial , any other enmity, protection of the rights of groups of people. such as immigrants, such as representatives of different regions who speak different languages , must be implemented, and here we have to look at the fact that, well, there are legal mechanisms, there is a commission of journalistic ethics, there is a national council for television and radio broadcasting, we can in the matter of covering up with freedom words to reach offensive words against any ethnic

groups, and what will happen then, it will be unacceptable, in europe, freedom of speech is a proven, protected value, but... along with this there is responsibility, but in britain there is oxfam, which follows this and so on, that is freedom means that you are responsible for every word you say, you can answer, and if you are sued, you are ready to answer for it in court, this is about, i don't know who sued , by the way, after about this case about skadovsk, and about the protection of different groups of people, what you read, yes, this is a very interesting moment, also controversial, because... in the russian federation there is a law on somehow protecting the feelings of believers, and there be - anyone who says i'm an atheist could potentially end up in the boot camp, because some, it offends some feeling of some believer, but all the same, evgenia is silent for now, but i want to listen to her. mr. mykola, you see everything. i am

literally continuing ms. nina's words, i will just add that any media is managed first of all. laws of ukraine , the most important thing for us is the laws of ukraine, the second is our editorial policy, and the editorial policy should be structured in such a way that, god forbid, not to offend certain ethnic groups, certain people, and so on. in this regard, we will never be like russia, i hope, that's why that what happened here is impossible in russia, when the residents of the city were insulted, they were mocked with cheap humor, thanks to publicity , certain actions began in... dishes and so on, that is, freedom of speech really ends where interests, honor and dignity begin another person or a group of people, so when we talk about freedom of speech, we must not forget that freedom of speech is not only the freedom to say what you want, but also to answer, and here, first of all

, the managers of the channel, who are everything is allowed, here you have to look at the editorial politics which airs things like this, i.e. freedom of speech is not only about what we can, but what we should do, yes, okay, our discussion continues, then, but why hasn't anyone sued, why except for the screams that i hear, and the criticism that i hear, and the quiet voices that i hear, but critical, nothing happens, that is, and this is, well , you know, not a very pleasant option, because here is ms. nina says that it is, well, no, well, we can let the child out, yes, together with the water, and i constantly think, where is the child, but where is the water, because i am a person who has not been involved for a long time, but i am interested in, let's say, freedom of speech, and it is more important for me to have freedom of speech, and at any cost, and if

it decreases due to the fact that someone will say some words. i am currently reading aristovitch there, he must immediately be sent to the butchery and so on, these people from the 95th quarter, well, okay, let’s go to the butchery, but then there must be a trial, there must be an investigation, so that we can find the composition of the crime, but we already hear voices: wartime without trial and investigation, and such voices are also heard and i am not alone , what do you say, mr. nino, ms. nino, i will say that, well, first of all, i ... i did not call for anyone to be sued, i just said that if you broadcast something, you should be i'm ready to answer for it until someone sues you, but this is an important remark, i didn't ask for it. i regret to file a lawsuit, and i have another question then: why were there no big public discussions when the 95th quarter joked that ukraine is a prostitute who takes everything from everyone,

referring to the imf grants that are now ukraine appeals, and in general lives a lot on western aid, why didn't anyone appeal at least somewhere to some supervisory bodies, i'm not talking about the court, when there were jokes about senior holodomor, it's very offensive for me personally, i'm ukrainian. and my family, like the families of many millions, went through this genocide, you see, it seems to me that responsibility is not only a court, it is also the ability to look tomorrow in the eyes of that group of people whom you offended today, whether you wanted it or not, this ability is normal to apologize, not to say, well, if it offended you, then of course i apologize, but still i think that i am right or i am right, this is the ability to joke normally. and it is normal to take responsibility, and i also have a question for the general public, the public votes with their feet and wallet, and here the question is how many people who were at this concert will want to go again and

pay their money, if possible a good half of the people somewhere around , well, they do not have a perfect command of the ukrainian language, but no, the discussion is interesting, because i am just for the court, i am exactly unlike you, i am exactly calling for judgment. because it is very difficult for me to understand the word look in the eyes, but we have been looking into the eyes of many powerful people since 1991, they are no longer soviet, but already ukrainian powerful people , and they steal and steal everything, and we look and look at everything, and they they continue to steal and so on and the like, that's why i love the court, legal proceedings are more important to me, maybe there is something to say to ms. yevgenia, because i'm here again. more, i think i give time to ms. nina, thank you, yes, i was thinking about that too, to, and what would be more expedient to do,

to complain to the commission on journalistic ethics to the national council or to file a lawsuit, by the way, i also sent a complaint to the national council, and as far as i know, i am not the only one, and i have experience in defending my rights in court , and quite successful, once in 2018 in... today they limited the rights of journalists to stay in the session hall and i was the one who fought for this right, but in my opinion , it was the right thing to do, and this is exactly what i wanted for public condemnation, for to show people as soon as possible that you can't joke like that, court is usually a long and technical matter, and i think that if someone from... the people of kadov files a lawsuit, and it is desirable that they file it, because their interests were directly affected in this video, then for some reason i am sure that the matter will be successful, however

, it is quite stretched out in time, i wanted it to be as soon as possible, because i felt the pain of the occupation, this is the first and second, i know for sure that few of the skadians are now at the moment when their relatives are in the occupation, they can take on this role a person who complains will spread the word , because there are a lot of people, excuse me, evgenia virlych, editor-in-chief of the kherson publication cavun city, nina kuryata, journalist, media expert were with us, thank you very much, so i am talking about ukrainians in kherson region, i am leaving in the kherson region, i stop in the car to buy onions, and the onions are in such baskets, smaller, larger, more. "well, how should we please

the buyers, we are going to europe, there are such ukrainian fields around, well, jokes are jokes, and we will have a five-minute story about jokes, what ukrainians were laughing at in 2023, we don't know what happened. on the 24th, but on the 23rd we know what they were laughing at, so there will be this plot now, then there will be, as far as i understand, the news, and then mykola veresen again. for the second year in a row , it is difficult to call the life of ukrainians full-fledged and real, all because of constant air alarms and arrivals arranged by the russians. yes, unfortunately, they still exist, as well as their swampy country, but ukrainians are a nation of people and we have learned to laugh even through tears, our creativity is so diverse that you can create a ministry of memes. january 2023

was remembered for ukrainians by the leopard flash mob, because germany reluctantly wanted to send us tanks of the same name. here you will find shevchenko, groysman, stefanchuk, an offended johnsonyuk, and of course dozens of memes with scholz. well, where can we go without the odious people's deputy tyshchenko. in january, kolya went to thailand, allegedly with a working woman. riding, and when i returned, i received a lot of hate and jokes about it, for example, checkmate , war mom, rambo terminator and others. ukrainians laughed at the ipo in moscow. and

what's wrong? worried? i'm sorry, we didn't have anti-aircraft fire on the government buildings on the building of the ministry of defense before that? are you there? in february, joe biden visited ukraine, and then it happened: the president of the united states in a pot-bellied house, at the new post office, standing in line for a pastry in a reserved seat and others. march is always associated with a holiday, but women in ukraine, even on this day, boldly troll the occupiers, but in april , a flash was noticed over kyiv, accompanied by a surge, ukrainians immediately decided that it was a ufo and made dozens funny pictures and videos. meanwhile, in may

, russian anti-aircraft defense forces switched to the side of ukraine, at least that's what was written in social networks, because two enemy helicopters and the same number of fighter jets fell in the bryansk region. none of the crew survived. oh, how sad, sad to the end, play music, play! further, the network was shaken by a series of publications about the alleged death of vatashka pvk wagner prigozhin. in particular , they offered to make films about the fact that he is alive, shoigurasimov, where are the pipes and the parachute, and other no less funny memes. karolinochka, the traitor, sings just as beautifully, and most importantly in point, as it will inform the armed forces of ukraine.

she is probably the most. cooperates with gur, sternenko and organizes charity concerts, so we are waiting for another batch of bidlorak drones and memes from ukrainians. but recently, the network laughed at putin in beijing, the bloody dictator spoke from a podium that looked like a coffin with flowers. the hint was understood, nothing, soon he will definitely be there, and we will laugh even more, as, for example, at the traitor kiva. earth is yours. like a cog, i'm a little cog, i'm a little cog, several days without kyivstar inspired people quite a bit, although the connection is already there, but memes are still

walking around the network, hello? kyivstar support service, and how did you answer me? and you yourself on vodofon? when will you work? i'm not asking for myself, i'm asking for the residents of terenko, people without a subway anyway, now they can't even call a taxi, you'll be working in 4-5 hours, arrest officer, what are you doing? yaroslav hopatsa, oleksandr kuga, mykola dikhtyar, specially for espresso. it's 6 p.m. in ukraine and we have a news release on the espresso tv channel for your attention.