you have seen this, this has never happened , you know, this is also all, you know, very secondary, ugh, we very often deal with russian pop music there and so on, we see that they steal everything, well, this is also a story with kirkor and basques who simply cover other people's songs, then get sued for plagiarism, well, they covered someone else's swimsuit, but it's really such a nuisance, and it also speaks of a certain level. i would say perception, by the way, i am very glad that when we showed some footage from zakarpattia this such a similar party, listen, well , people do something you don't like, why do they do it at all, if they relieve themselves of stress in this way, we know these people, because if we also start talking, you know, we have during war , you don't have to do anything, you can't march and cry, by the way, i absolutely believe that we can face such things, i remembered very well. how

in the lviv tram i was riding and the musicians came in and played some completely ordinary song in ukrainian and then some woman started shout to them that you don't need to play here, my son died, i absolutely believe that such an emotional reaction, if you lose a child, then the next day you go on a tram and hear music, you don't want someone to sing something at all and what do you don't want anyone to live, i'm sorry, that's the kind of emotional reaction you have again... people who think they have to live, they also have to realize that other people may not want that, yes, because it got huge losses, and this is such a wound in society that will be very difficult to heal, moreover, it must be clearly said that since this war will continue for a long time and there will still be great losses among people, the number of people who will want others not to live will increase in geometric progression, this is our military reality, because and.

.. unlike russia, we are at war, but russia too, too, that war is for mutual attrition, in russia too there will be more and more people who will lose their parents, brothers, husbands, and they too will not want to others flashed something, this is the reality that russia and ukraine, like siamese twins , who are at war with each other, and in which more and more graves will live for the next decades, this is a reality, but again from those people who... who were not so affected by the war, and this i will talk about ukraine now, because in russia all this will be decided by the party and putin, so to speak, it depends on the tolerant attitude towards those who are experiencing and will experience grief, because it is on these people that the atmosphere in society depends, not on those who are grief experienced, because these people who experience this grief, it is very difficult for them to think in such...categories, they live in

an emotional world of loss and it takes time for the feeling of this loss to heal, and again for many people, as we know from the second world war, it took years, decades, it is very important that the culture did not cultivate it, because the soviet culture cultivated it and did not give people the opportunity to get out of this emotional trap of emptiness, and we still have... in what year, in what year, in the 75th or 80th, valentina tolkunova sang at concerts: and no matter how we live without each other my dear, if that’s the case, you understand , just imagine, you lost your fiancé, you are a young woman, and you hear it, you are already 60 years old, but you had the right to live life afterwards, even if your youth was scorched by war , and the state did not give you this right, they wanted all the time... that you were

an inconsolable widow, at least in your head, even if you succeeded, you still had to live in grief, and this is an absolutely short-lived attitude towards your own citizens , which again was still there, precisely because it was such an attitude, they could easily move to of the new stage of the war, because they had keep people injured, don't let them get their wounds, mr. vitaliy, unfortunately, time is pressing us, and there are a few more topics that without your analysis definitely cannot... the exchange of prisoners is very large-scale and with the help of, in particular, the united arab emirates, they say in gur, it is interesting, saudi arabia and the emirates and their role in exchange processes between ukraine and russia, what do you say? i think the role of the emirates is absolutely logical for the simple reason that after erdogan gave our president commanders azov, well, russia could decide that he is an intermediary in exchange processes. are not

interesting for her, but at the same time, putin is now interested in cooperation with the emirates of saudi arabia, assets, money, power. ness, the price of oil , there is a lot of everything there, it is absolutely not by chance , putin chose the emirates, and then saudi arabia for his first visit to the borders of the post-soviet space and china, he has not been anywhere else, only to the emirates and saudi arabia , so now the question arises when this happens, when the emirates understand that putin is interested in them, and they need to increase their international prestige, then they can, in turn , demand from him and... by participating in the exchange, to show that they can do no less than the president of turkey, even more, for to president alnakhayan, this is another important moment, because he needs to balance between the united states and russia, to turn a blind

eye to some of their offshore companies and so on in the west, that is, he needs to be useful there and useful there. well, that's what putin doesn't want saudi arabia or the emirates increased oil production, that he, in the end, what could he not give 230 ukrainians, he is taking them prisoner for that, in fact, both civilians and military, of course, this is for him, they just can there must be different considerations, why we... give hostages, once we can exchange them for tsemakhs, remember, it was very important that this process, yes, in the gas, did not turn into an opportunity to interrogate tsemakhs, yes, and that is why he even was ready to sacrifice sentsov, but he got his way, because one way or another, the process could not establish the involvement of the highest political

military leadership of russia in the destruction of the plane, it is worth playing the switch game, yes, now is a new moment when... no one so obvious needs to be released, there is no medvedchuk, uh, but there is the interest of arabs from the emirates and saudi arabia, arab leaders, his own international prestige, he can give them such a gift, yes, if they promise not to raise the price of oil, not to increase, er... oil production, if he knows for sure, that he can earn more a certain number of billions of dollars , to put the economy on a military track, to build a certain number of missiles without any, and to ensure social stability, so what is 200, citizens, 230

citizens of ukraine there, against the background of these big calculations, nothing, therefore, this does not mean that it should not be used, it is necessary, because it will still be negotiated with... the emirates from saudi arabia, it is very good that our diplomacy was able to dispose of their own desires, their own intentions, what is here the interests of ukraine, yes, the united arab emirates and the russian federation converged. but now we have to understand that turkey's options there, they are limited, as a neutral mediator, so i don't really understand why president erdogan says that he has to fight for the regime of ee... switzerland's options are limited because it has imposed sanctions against of the russian federation, until recently switzerland was able to represent the interests of georgia in moscow after the break in diplomatic relations between georgia and russia, now in russia they clearly say that they do not consider switzerland is a neutral country, this is the first time in history, ugh, that is

, the number of countries capable of acting as mediators between moscow and kyiv is decreasing with... allow to remain in the center without choosing positions, as it is called positions, only here are such rich countries as the united arab emirates or saudi arabia, which are needed by everyone, both biden and putin, and us, and therefore everyone can close. eyes on some of their actions, which do not suit him. putin will not quarrel with the emirates, he can afford to supply gas to turkey. ugh. well, that's simple logic, only business, nothing personal, and it's a great happiness that thanks to this kind of events. some more people

saw their relatives, their friends, and about the development of events in the middle east, in beirut was destroyed. a fairly high-ranking hamas official, this is a person who was responsible for the paramilitary wing, and this is definitely a success of the israeli special services, in particular, the united states. america in person kirby actually emphasizes that, in compliance with all international rules and regulations, israel has the right to act as it sees fit. i do not know whether such actions will continue and with what frequency, i understand that these are established goals, the goals of israel, but less about whether this liquidation has undermined something, changed something in the course of the conflict now? i think that she is nothing in particular... i personally cannot change him, because hamas has a collective leadership, there is sinwar, who sits in the gas, there is

haniya, who is the head of the organization, his the deputy of the second person, uh, how much is it, then you have to understand that the hamas politburo is a collective body, and there is always a question, the most important one, to which we do not have an answer , and what is next, even if we destroy this politburo, i think that israel he will do it because he will never forgive them. the deaths of their citizens and what they are doing as hostages, all these people , they will be destroyed sooner or later, almost all of them, maybe someone will remain just as hassan nasrallah, the leader of hezbollah, remains alive and well, but no one will eliminate him, although they probably could or khaled marshal, ugh, at one time israeli agents in jordan tried to kill him, the jordanians detained her, they gave them antidote, then there was a whole story, but after that i will not threaten him with anything. but in this situation, you see, the problem is that hamas relies on

the support of the population, that this whole program of hatred and destruction of israel is supported by the vast majority of residents of the gas sector. therefore, when they say: "you know, the israeli military, we will destroy hamas, we will provide security to provide for ourselves, and there will be a palestinian administration, i think this is an unlikely option for the simple reason that..." if there is a population, there is no understanding of how this population will be when this population wants to live with its own problems, and not with the problems of the destruction of israel , we don't know that, but we talked to you about the united arab emirates, if you look closely at the gas sector and the united arab emirates - it's roughly the same territory, uh, in the gas sector or better climatic conditions, ports in 2005 the last israeli soldier left the area, it came under full palestinian control. to help them with money,

in principle, new emirates could arise there to the envy of israel, something palestinians can live like this, there is not even a state, but there are just ports, gardens, trade, education, a university, everyone was ready to give any... amount of money , for which the money of the population of the gas sector was used, to turn their sector into a springboard for attacks on israel, and the people voted for it, because they voted in the parliamentary elections almost all the populated sector, on the west bank of the jordan river there was still such a branch, but in gaza there was a clear support for hamas, hamas, give us and we will destroy israel, vote for us and we will do everything possible to destroy israel, they fulfill his pre-election promises. well, this is the choice of society, in parallel, it’s true, they also destroy a large part of the residents, like

the gas sector, the residents become shahedi, we know all this logic, well, what are you going to do, huh, and that’s what the people of tirana say, that’s what they say in the sector gaza, that's what everyone says, became a shaheed, it's great, especially, you don't need to thank the leadership of hama for the fact that it provides such an opportunity, money, flows of money, where do they go, to the family. suicide terrorists, every mother wants to have a suicide terrorist in her family, because there will be a lot of money that can be used for other children? and how to solve it, i don’t know, i don’t see any, i don’t see any political , any preconditions for ending the russian-ukrainian war, i don’t see any political conditions for ending conflict in the gas sector, it can even achieve some kind of military success there at a certain time, but since this is the mood of the population... how does the population of the gas sector want to destroy israel, how does the population of russia want to destroy ukraine? there is no chance

to end this, we have to learn to live with it, as it is already a question for both ukrainians and israelis, how they will be able to deal with it, whether they will be able to, for how long they will be able to deal with it, but this is such a real conflict , there are such conflicts that everything ends at the table negotiations, do not sit down at the negotiating table with hamaso, i have already been at the negotiating table with him several times post. agreed on a truce, about this, about that, about allowing the residents of gaza to work in israel, then these residents of gaza, together with hamas militants , killed those who gave them work, who treated them. imported children with his own money from the gas sector to a hospital in israel, all this was already fine, let’s negotiate again, yes with putin, we can negotiate with him, i have a hard time imagining how from the western point of view, i mean the world about truce, but it is coming the moment we find out that he decides that he doesn't need a truce anymore and

starts attacking us again, well, that's the reality we live in, so to be honest here , i think it's not a matter of ... the leader of hamas, you noticed the request, yes, the society of people for violence, the request for violence, when you want to kill the opponent more than to do your own business, was the famous phrase of goldemay, she said that we will be able to live in peace with the palestinian arabs, then with arabs in general, when they want life... i am not sure that this aphorism is suitable for a country like iran, for example, what do you think, by the way, on this account, because despite the fact that iran is such a pillar of the same, one of the feet, axis of evil, things are still happening there

that show that many people in this country would not want the path that would be... chosen by its leadership, and literally on january 3rd there was a big attack, in particular on a procession in a cemetery, where ksm suleimani is buried, this is a general whose fourth anniversary seems to be his death, in 2020 he was was liquidated, and it was a very influential person who, probably, could argue with the leaders of the number two state in the country, such and... and take it, if you consider toluhomanyi stalin. in short, what was the incident, in your opinion, was it related to the resistance, yes, to the use of violence, because it is 84 people dead, and it is, in my opinion, the largest act of violence with frequency, since the 70's , in fact, since the 80s 80s, yes,

you see what the problem is, iran, the islamic revolution in iran is a typical bolshevik a revolution that is sustained by violence, because as a general bolshevik audience, the party opposed the government in the country, it intimidated its opponents, it conquered the army, it created effective secret services, and we do not know how long all this could have lasted if not world war ii, because, as you understand, there were still a lot of people who hated everyone in the soviet union, too. and were ready to kill, they just were, only 3, 3,4 years have passed since the bolshevik coup, and since the bolsheviks completely established their power, that's all, no more than 20 years, then came the second world war, and it changed everything, as you understand, the soviet union has already left the second world war,

completely reformatted, so to speak, this is unity in the fight against the aggressor , by the way, many people remained outside the borders of the soviet union, from those who could have lived in the occupied territories, well, that was another story, let’s not talk about it, iran exists in such a state without there, they tried to make such analogue of the second world war, the war with iraq, just for this, ugh, but it 's still not true, the iranian dictatorship exists without war in this form, for how many years, in 1979, yes. of course, this dissatisfaction that exists among the youth, which exists among people who have remained in this internal emigration, and their children no longer want to be in internal emigration, there are many radical groups, both anti-islamist and left-wing, the same party is the people's party of iran, the former communist party was not

completely destroyed, as the iranian mujahideen, it all exists, they just exist without us seeing it. but we see that there can be any explosion of dissatisfaction, as it happened recently, which can only be suppressed by force, only by force, plus internal conflicts. it must be understood that the iranian clans are among themselves at the very top of the islamic republic. and, let's say, now, when it comes to the fact that ayatollah khameneni is in a serious condition. and there is always the question of who will succeed him , say, the current president raisi, or the former president ravsanjania, ugh, who is considered a much more cautious, moderate person, which side will i be on? to the islamic revolutionary guard corps, who will be supported by the army, then these people may want to kill each other, using their own opportunities, their own connections with

the opposition special service, and this is a complicated story, but again, why are we surprised by this, well, i will remind you again , that we know little about what happened in the soviet union, but when we look carefully at the latest research, we understand that there was intra-party opposition, that there i... in the 41st year, what they were preparing, they fought with stalin in the system itself, well, it's true, but stalin shot almost all the members of the politburo of lenin's time, not just because he considered them competitors, enemies and so on, here the same thing happens, so in this regard, iran does not look, iran looks stable, only as long as its power apparatus is stable, bojran is essentially just a violent state. in which you can feel more or less normal as long as you fully comply with the norms and you respect the power of the government and its moral,

so to speak, uh, guidelines for your behavior, so what is being said there is not just that you do not speak out against the government, you also have to wear a scarf correctly, so somehow i remembered kirkoorov, well i want to say that this is the orthodox taliban. okay, and by the way , you know that putin, we know this famous story, how did putin understand what the system of power in russia should look like, it was after the visit to tehran, he met with ayatollah khamenei, he realized that aidelah khamenei is no not the country's president, national leader, supreme leader, after that, putin was called a national leader, and it was after that that he decided to abandon the model he inherited from yeltsin. when he played there for two terms as president, now there will be a prime minister, and the president is medvedev, and we have a democratic republic here, we change places here, well, in iran, ayatollah

khamini does not change places with anyone, because he is for life faqih, ugh, and the same with putin, he is a national leader, it is the same as the supreme leader of the islamic republic of iran, russia is copying iran, iran itself, and therefore such the role of patriarch kirill, that's why everyone goes. with banners here and there, that is why they expel, by the way, from the russian church in iran those priests who say that it is a sin to fight and forbid them to serve, this is absolutely a remake, if they say that putin is recreating the stalinist regime, no, he is recreating regimes, he likes it, and right under his nose, and that's right, and our regular column: my attempts to quarrel portnikov with... the polish people, that's what you said last time, it happens every time i try to start a conversation about what is happening at our border, actually jokes are jokes, but while we are talking,

information has appeared that the minister of agriculture and rural development cheslav sikerskyi and subcarpathian voivode tereza kubas holb signed an agreement with farmers who blocked the border with ukraine at the checkpoint sheginy medica, which the farmers receive in return, goes to their, to their demands. subsidies for corn in the amount of 1 million zlotys, an increase in lending by 2.5 billion zlotys, maintaining the amount of the agricultural tax at the level of 2023 year, well, ukrainians are holding their breath and waiting for the border to be unblocked, these farmers are not morzotniks, i have nothing against their conditions, and then you will accuse me of scolding you, no, but why are they blocking our border in particular, they would not leave would block the apartment of this minister of agriculture, according to why are they blocking the border of this country, which is at war. there are many

borders in poland, they could block the border with the kaliningrad region if they wanted to. whether with anyone, or not only the border, i don't know, there are many possibilities, to block something, it was always in poland, i would say, poles are the most, i would say such. inventive about their protest actions, in them, they created solidarity, why on our cordo, here we are, well, yes, here we are, these conditions apply to us, no, they do not apply to us, they just decided that this place is sick, and you can, if you get there, blackmail your own country, not us, you know, as this american senator told zelensky, who was he, one of our friends in the congress, but why are you here, it’s us we are thinking about the border with mexico, by the way , and you are all right, we support you, we are the best friends of ukraine, we just need to put pressure on biden, you are of no use here, and here

the farmers also say, you are of no use here.. what, we are just getting subsidies now , we want money, and you are sitting there without fuel, without goods, what is it with us, we will get money, and we will, the lazy ones did not give up, and this has nothing to do with the polish people, so it's just the behavior of certain groups of people who just want to be paid to let kids and women who are actually in economic blockade should not die here. from the lack of necessary goods, but the fact that now the polish government is actually going to meet and satisfy these demands indicates that the previous government actually had its own motives for not satisfying these requests, it is true, but the previous government and others and others, by the way, demands were made, well, yes, and now we also have to understand, the current government, it

is also in a pre-election state, we are all the time. i also think, but how can this government do all these decision to make when he has local elections soon, then there will be presidential elections, and then there will be elections for the european parliament, if you are always in an election situation, then you are always facing blackmail, uh, and this, this is a question that we could absolutely calm to ask all politicians. of modern europe, the united states of america, who do you want to be, politicians or statesmen ? if your main goal is to win the election, well, then you are doing everything right, great, you will definitely win, if your goal is to win the war with russia, no allow it to increase, and you are ready to sacrifice your power with mandates, you will have to make unpopular decisions, by

the way, that's what. what we always say to our own leadership, it can be said exactly the same to the united states and the countries of the european union, if you do not want the russian federation to occupy the former soviet republics and strengthen to the capabilities of the soviet union, we say that the soviet union , not true, the soviet union had a gross national product comparable to the gross national a product of the united states of america, yes, and could therefore look like a threat. now russia and china are not such a threat, but if russia pulls everything together, its mobilization potential will increase. in ukraine, 25-30 million people live there now, in uzbekistan 40 million live, there are 35, these are big numbers, this is not a joke, if russia is transformed, returns to the year 91, then the future with such a russia will have to be

taken into account... why should we win in this confrontation, not because russia will reach uzhhorod and attack poland, no, it will not be necessary to attack. farmers will vote for the right politician who will say that we have to negotiate with moscow, if it is already here, if it is so strong, that's what can happen, a political revolution can happen without any attack in central europe and beyond, and that's why i want to call on all politicians to make responsible decisions if they don't want to live in such a strange world, khrystyna, thank you, khrystyna yatske, vitaly portnikov and the saturday political club, see you soon, all the best to you.

great, thank you very much, about the first week of the new the year that began with massive shelling, casualties, the border blockade, our return home and... support, about this and much more in today's issue. the russian invaders have changed their attack tactics in an attempt to overwhelm our air defense system. in order to receive compensation for the damages caused by the war, people need to unite. in 2023 , the ukrainian army received weapons that had a significant impact on the course of the war.