such was the humor, what is the club of cheerful and clever? this is such an illegitimate child of this humor, because it was clear that the youth no longer understood it, it was the humor of the older generation, and when the thaw began, this is more or less the way life is, they decided that it was necessary for the youth to joke, but then it was banned, because it turned out that joking young people are too much, they may not understand properly, yes, they don’t know how to look with their eyes like that, they need to be told something so that... laszenka and it was restored during the reconstruction, renewed during the perestroika, too, all of us it was watched, it was also a surprisingly strange phenomenon that the leading companies of these teams of this new club, cheerful and clever, cheerful and clever, were ukrainian teams, odesa from my native university in the dnipro, because i still saw how it was created, it was still former... student theater youth, and

these are all my fellow students and peers, to a certain extent, some are the same age, some are fellow students, some are acquaintances, and a little later, this is a crooked corner, ugh, the question arises, why odesa and dnipropetrovsk teams were like that then popular, they were a continuation of that soviet humor, but in such a youthful form. and yet, one way or another, for us , this club of fun and frivolous people ended with the soviet union, but soviet humor generally died and kvk remained on the stage, but in some kind of theatrical form. what do these people do? those who want to stay in business? and soviet humor, and the club of funny people was primarily for the russian audience, well, there are simply more people, if it is a business, then the tickets will be ku'. more in

moscow than in kyiv, huh, so those who maybe they are also starting to count on the russian audience, which the russian audience laughs at, at the jews, they already laughed, all of them, not ukrainians, all of these, you know, techniques that were used, that something should be said in foreign languages, so to speak to say, they are no longer interesting, because you can laugh straight away, you don't need to go through the censor. and you understand, you can laugh at ukrainians. the odesa gentleman show, or the kvk theater in dnipro, it's not so interesting anymore, because livingzon or chepurnyak, well, again, it's not the fact that i want to offend someone is just a reality, they can't look stupid, i'm sorry, they don't look like that, even filimonov, uh, well, he played all the time, because he's an odessa comedian. he played

odesites, but the russians already laughed at odesites, they already had zhvanetsky, they already had karhar, they already wanted more simple and understandable humor, and it must be said that quarter 95 gave them this humor and became extremely popular in russia, moreover , there was a platform for this as well, because there was the only ukrainian duet that made it to the big one the soviet stage, there were many comedians, glazovs in ukraine. it all started and ended here. tymoshenko and birch, tarapunka and shtepsel. she listens. tymoshenko was generally a great actor. raikinsky's level, but he had to play the role of a poor ukrainian. ukrainian. berezin as he could, because he too, he was not a russian, also played the role of a russian as he could, but it is also interesting that exactly such a character was needed, because a real russian could not... could lower himself

to this it was necessary to berezin played the role of an older brother, without being an older brother, that is, it was all essentially scripted in this duo, where two outstanding comedians, perhaps the best on the ukrainian scene, were forced to play such a role that they liked during the entire existence of our variety show to the moscow public , to speak in surzhik, to pretend that some people speak in russian, and others... somehow in ukrainian, but so that a russian would understand him, we will see all this later in, i would say, in an amateur form in quarter 95, and the russian public will be in delight, and for the russian audience there will be a ukrainian in the bag, which has always appealed to russian audiences as a model, and if moscow likes it, and it also ours, then... it should like it even more, and thus

all these scenes about poor ukrainians, about a stupid khokhlo, they passed. from russia to ukraine, but where are we with you now , we are with you in 2024, when there is no russian audience in quarter 95, dzelensky is an enemy of the people, all scenes with his participation are from russian satirical programs, who used to be there, if they show something, they are cut out, like other quartets, and themselves... humorous stories, they continue to be written as if they are for the ukrainian, for the russian audience, that is, so that we don't laugh at ourselves, and that's the problem , this is what i wanted to achieve from dmytro, and

for them to laugh at us, that's why we take it so acutely and perceive it, it means that ukrainian show business is now moving by inertia, by inertia, because it was show business, so calculated. for russian fate, he was a russian-speaker for the first time, and this is the first time for us we hear, we hear, they are talking for the first time in many years, they started speaking ukrainian, and as it used to look, the ukrainian language was allowed in there only for this koltarapunk color, some person comes, she is stupid, she is provincial, she is weak, she does not understand , as the world is generally arranged, she enters the moscow haroms with her... funny language, but we all talk beautifully, we all talk on stage, as you, dear viewers, want, but this is a character, this is a character, this is not we, we, in the next scene, this actor will speak a good language, it's okay

, he's playing such a character now, of course, that's how it looked in the barrel for years, you remember what despach was like, he was articulate. that the tv series produced by our comedy studios will not be shown on the russian market after 2014, do you remember what it was like, what the hysteria was, that it will be necessary to shoot films in the ukrainian language, and how they are shown in moscow, you understand, the point is, sometimes it seems to me, i don't want to think like that, that some of our outstanding... the masters of culture wanted so much in 2019 to negotiate with vladimir vladimirovich putin on peace, friendship and chewing gum, to be able to show their product in russia, to return to this beautiful market, because they could just sit down and

look at business plan and understand that their wonderful studios will go bankrupt because there is no such profit in this ukraine, ugh, and now you understand? what to show the audience, and therefore, if this ukrainian government cannot come to an agreement, it itself profits from the war, instead of people watching beautiful all the series are good together, then let's come to power and come to an agreement and let's play our films and our skits, it could be such a naive childish, i would say, such a naive childish worldview, especially for people who have been in... in moscow more than in kyiv, in russian show business, and what is russian show business, it is again, how does russian show business differ from russian, from russian politics, i will simply tell you this as a person who i communicated with those, with those lyuchi, there will be a question on trends in russian show business, that is, i had friends among pro

-russian performers, who now the poor people can't take off their shirts, because the weight is already wrong. because the attention from society is not the same. and there were many acquaintances among the politicians, and of course, i saw that russian politicians, they always looked at ukraine as a territory that they should conquer, and russian artists always looked at ukraine as a market. yes, well, just the market, they did not want us there, and it absolutely did not matter whether we were an independent state or no, they needed them to come here. and so that the audience perceives them as their own, and they perceive ukraine as just another platform for a chat, well, you remember, until 2014, if you turn on the radio in ukraine, you are in bryansk, in kursk, not in

moscow, because it was not a moscow- level radio, but bryansk or kursk or yaroslavl provincial radio, and who sings on our bryansk radio, people's artist of ukraine philip kirkorov. people's artist of ukraine - mykola baskov, people's artist of ukraine - yosyp kobzon, people's artist of ukraine - i don't know, not deserved, well, in short, not the point. these are people who had nothing to do with our country, in general, well, at least kobzon had, at least he was from here, and could sing and record cds of ukrainian songs by staisii povaly, when he had already become an apologist for the regime, he was still doing all this , and baskova kirkorov, what they sang, but pukhachova tried to sing a song about a towel in ukrainian, but she was not awarded people's artist of ukraine for that, and these people even just they are for nothing... no, one song was ubaskov, ukrainian? you are my ukrainian

, you are the only one for me, that's what baskov sang, i know about it only because it turned into a crazy meme, at the beginning of the large-scale invasion, when the ukrainians started joking about what will happen, when, what will happen to the russian in show business, when zsu, you are my ukraine, you are forever one, it was somehow difficult to find in the circle, pronunciation. the accent is ukrainian, no , seriously, you understand, and that and that, but these people all lived together in one, until a certain moment, you see how the 14th year changed everything, even the 19th, even the 22nd, more, much more, zelensky ended up in the chair of the president of ukraine, for him all these people have now become enemies, and these people simply wish him death, these people , who lived with him, pugacheva and galkin and there , i don't know, makarevich and... and slipakov all left there for israel and there they make fun of

their former friends, because what do you say , how do you behave, and kirkorov, oops, sits in a pose and apologizes for doing what he's always done since 18 years before 506, never once dressed up at any party, ugh, and now... when he is no longer a young man, he apologizes to russian society for doing what they idolized him for, they idolized him for this outrage was always loved, and that's it, but i really want to be a part of this horror, so for me it's also a question about the morality of these people, eh, i promised to just ask this question, here before the new year in russia i had my kipish, forgive me, well, but it's really interesting what he thinks from... from this even those who lick putin's regime from all sides began to cancel the occasion, well

, at least publicly, i don't know what's in their heads at the same time, but kirkorov himself, and not only that, it's about some naked party, they don't touch, what is the truth, wives , various rather interesting characters, such as the main developer of the instant workers, so they are, because if you have a husband in the apparatus, you can undress, and if there is none, then, well, what, is this the education of actors? that now it will be so that now what is needed is not loyalty, but exemplary behavior, this is still very strange, in russia the whole for a while they said that there is no war, well, russia is conducting some kind of special operation on the territory of some ukraine, unknown to anyone, and we live a normal life, we don’t have a war, if there is no war, why can’t we stretch out at a party in a club, but russia , you see, this is a construction, putin is already using this war to build an orthodox taliban there, huh. and now they show how a proper

cultural figure should behave, correct, it was the same in the soviet union in the 1930s, but everyone on the one hand went to the theater stanislavskyovich danchenko to the moscow art and academic theater, where there was a classical theater, or a small theater, a classical theater, on the other hand, the merenhold theater, an experimental theater, where something absolutely incredible happens, what happens next, this... the experimental theater is destroyed, merenhold is shot , who was an absolutely loyal person to the soviet authorities, a people's artist of the republic. uhu, and what is happening to the actors of the meyerhold theater, its main actor, the symbol of this whole experiment, a world-class comedian ihor elinsky becomes the main actor of the small theater. all the following life from 30 there5 years to 80, plays the roles of the classical repertoire, although. in fact, he is an actor of an experimental eccentric theater, an eccentric, the main eccentric of the country, but he was told: if you

want to act, then you want to be a people's artist, a hero of socialist labor, and only when igor yelinsky became an elderly man, and he was no longer afraid, and he was already a people's artist, then he was already in some soviet film comedies of the khrushchev era played the way he basically knew how, and that's why we know him, by the way, because i mean , uh... there are some spectators there who still caught a soviet camera, some carnival night there, but there's an idea, ilinsky eccentric like that, but that's old age, he had it in principle. to play like that all his life, and he would be a great man in world theater art, but no one knows him like that, well, but they explained that now it is necessary to play like that, without any experiments, it turned out, as it was before the revolution in the imperial theater, in to the emperor, we now have an imperial theater, emperor stalin, and please, without

focus, please, without focus, and this is the same as what kirkoroovo, sobchak and the like are saying there, do you want? to be here, do you want to make money here, please, without a focus, went on stage, the lenin party, the komsomol, but they hoped for something completely different, they hoped to impose these scraps on all people, well, they themselves hoped to continue to expose themselves, to behave the way they like to feel completely free, and does not work when you drag to your country and you lift appropriate regime, do not be surprised when this regime comes and slaps you, it is such an idea that we will have such a correct country, well, like that, and we will, relatively speaking, on our naked, i would say this, beauties draw a tricolor and a portrait of putin, they

have such a baller there. how does the guy from kherson, who really has a portrait of putin on his body, and this is a tattoo, forget him, well, some time later they will be imprisoned just for mocking putin, uh, no one thought that if you wear a sock in certain places there, then it hooliganism and you will sit for 15 days, by the way , today this rapper was imprisoned again, for another 15 days, it was decided that it was not enough, and you understand, this is all such deep provincialism, i remember that someone from ... great rock musicians, i don't even remember who, put on this sock, you know what, when you and i were not yet born, i think at the beginning of the year, well, everyone said, oh at the end, you can perform like that too, well , no one has ever shown that, after all, in rock music , it's not the sock that matters, well, that's all, just like in rap, i suspect, huh, but in russia it's such a thing

, my god, we've seen it, it's never happened, you're just that... everything, too, you know, is very secondary. ugh. we very often deal with russian pop music and the like and see that they steal everything. well, this is also a story about kirkorov and baske, who are simply re-singing other people's songs. then they are sued for plagiarism. well, that's how they sang someone else's swimsuit. but it really is such a nuisance, and this also speaks of a certain level, i would say, of perception. by the way, i am very glad that when we were shown some. footage from zakarpattia of this similar party, listen, well , people are doing something you don't like, what are they doing at all, if they relieve themselves of stress in this way, we know these people, because if we also start talking, you know, we have during the war , you don't have to do anything, you can't march and cry, by the way, i absolutely believe that we can face

such things, i remember very well how... i was riding on the lviv tram and the musicians came and played some absolutely ordinary a ukrainian song and then some woman started shouting to them that they should not play here, my son died, i absolutely believe it, that such an emotional reaction, if you lose a child, then the next day you go on a tram and hear music, you don't want to at all , for someone to sing something and what, you don't want someone to live, i'm sorry, this is such an emotional reaction that you and again, people who think that they should live. they also have to realize that other people may not want it, yes, because they have a huge loss and this is such a wound to society that will be very it is difficult to heal, and it must be clearly said that since this war will continue for a long time, and there will be great losses among people, the number of people who will want others not to live will increase exponentially, this is

our such a war reality, because, unlike russia, we are at war, but russia is also at war. a war of mutual attrition, in russia too there will be more and more people who will lose their parents, brothers, husbands, and they too will not want others to testify, this is the reality that russia and ukraine, like siamese twins who are at war with each other, and in which more and more graves will live for the next decades, this is a reality, but again from those people who are not touched by the war. and this is what i will say about ukraine now, because in russia all this will be decided by the party and putin, it depends on a tolerant attitude towards those who are experiencing and will survive grief. because it is from these people that the atmosphere in society depends, not from those who experienced this grief, because these people who experience this grief are very difficult for them

to think in such categories, they live in an emotional world of loss and it takes time for the feeling of this loss to heal, and this is again the case for many people, as we know from the second world war, it took years, decades, it is also very important that the culture . did not cultivate it, because the soviet culture cultivated it and did not give people the opportunity to get out of this emotional trap of emptiness , we still have a year in which valentina tolkunova sang at concerts in the 75s or 80s, but no matter how we live a friend without friend my dear if there was no war, well, that's it, you understand, imagine, you lost your fiancé, you are a young woman. and you hear it, you are already 60 years old, but you had the right to live life afterwards, even if your youth was

scorched by war, and the state did not give you this right, they always wanted you to be a despondent widow, at least in your head, even if you succeeded, you still had to live in grief, and this is an absolutely short-lived attitude towards its own citizens, which was again there, precisely because it was such an attitude. they could easily move to new phase of the war because they were keeping people traumatized, don't let them enter their wounds. mr. vitaly, unfortunately , time is pressing us, and there are a few other topics that definitely cannot do without your analysis, the exchange of prisoners is very large-scale and with the help of, in particular, the united arab emirates, they say in gur, interestingly, saudi arabia and the emirates and their role in exchange processes between ukraine and russia, what do you say? i think that the role of the emirates is absolutely logical for the simple reason that after the dogan gave our president the commanders of azov, well, russia could decide that he

is not interesting for her as an intermediary in exchange processes. but at the same time, putin is now interested in cooperation with the emirates of saudi arabia, assets, money, property, the price of oil, there is a lot of everything, that's absolutely. it is no accident that putin chose the emirates and then went to saudi arabia for his first visit to the borders of the post-soviet space and china. he was nowhere else. only in the emirates and saudi arabia. so, now the question arises when this happens, when the emirates understand what putin is interested in them, and they need to increase their international prestige, so they can in turn demand from him, his participation in the exchange, to show. that they can no less than the president of turkey, even more for its president alnakhayan, this is another important moment, because he

needs to balance between the united states, russia, to turn a blind eye to some of their offshores and so on, in the west, that is he needs to be useful there and useful there, well, if putin does not want saudi arabia or... and the emirates were increasing oil production , which in the end, what could he not give 230 ukrainians, 230,248, that is why he is taking them prisoner, in fact, both civilians and military, of course, it is for him, there may simply be different considerations, why we give hostages, once we can exchange them for this. remember, it was very important that this process in the gas did not turn into an opportunity to interrogate tsemakh, and that is why he was even ready to sacrifice sentsov, but he succeeded because one way

or another the process could not establish the involvement of the top political military leadership of russia in the destruction of the plane , the game of switch was worth it, so now there is a new moment when no one is so obvious... there is no need, medvedchuk is not there, huh, but there is the interest of arabs from the emirates and saudi arabia, arab leaders, their own international prestige, he can give them such a gift, yes, if they promise not to raise the price of oil, not to increase oil production, if he knows for sure that he will be able to earn a certain amount more. spend billions of dollars the economy on military rails, to build a certain number of missiles without any, and to ensure social stability, so that he, what are 200 citizens, 230

citizens of ukraine against the background of these big calculations, nothing, so this and this do not mean anything, that it does not need to be used, it is necessary, because it will still negotiate with the emirates from saudi arabia, it is very good that our diplomacy was able to dispose of their own desires, their own intentions, that interests converged here ukraine, yes, the united arab emirates. and the russian federation, but now we have to understand that turkey's opportunities there, they are limited, as a neutral intermediary, so i don't really understand why president erdogan says that he has to fight for a cessation regime, switzerland's opportunities are limited because it imposed sanctions against the russian federation, until recently switzerland was able to represent the interests of georgia in moscow after the break in diplomatic relations between georgia and russia, now in russia they clearly

say that they do not believe that... this is the first time in history, ugh, that is, the number of countries capable of acting as mediators between moscow and kyiv is becoming fewer and fewer. with the development of this war, there may simply not be any left, because everyone is somehow starting to define themselves, few can afford to stay in the center without choosing a position, what do you call it? positions, only such rich countries as the united arab emirates or saudi arabia are needed by everyone. and to biden, and to putin, and to us, and therefore everyone can turn a blind eye to some of their actions that do not suit him. putin will not to quarrel with the emirates, with turkey can afford that he supplies them with gas. ugh. well, that's simple logic. just business, nothing

personal. and it is a great happiness that thanks to such a person. events, a certain number of people saw their relatives, their friends, and about the development of events in the middle east, a rather high hamas official was destroyed in beirut, this is a person who was responsible for the paramilitary wing, and this is definitely a success of the israeli special services, in particular, the united states of america, represented by kirby, actually emphasizes that... compliance with all international rules and regulations, israel has the right to act as it sees fit. i do not know whether such actions will continue with what frequency, i understand that these are established goals, the goals of israel, but less about whether this liquidation has undermined something, changed something in the course of the conflict now? i think that specifically she cannot change anything personally, because hamas has

a collective leadership. there is sinvar, who is sitting in the gas, there is khania, who is the head of the organization, his deputy is the second person, to what extent, then you have to understand, that the politburo of hamas is a collective body, and there is always a question, the most important, to which we do not have an answer, and what happens next, even if this politburo is destroyed, i think that israel will do it, because it will never forgive them for the death of their citizens and what they are. hostages, all these people , they will be destroyed sooner or later, almost all of them, maybe someone will remain exactly as he remains alive and well, hassan nasrallah, the leader of hezbollah, no one will eliminate him, although probably khaled mashal could, ugh , it was tried at one time to kill israeli agents in jordan, the jordanians detained her, they gave them antidote, then there was a whole story, but after that he was not in any danger, but in this situation.

you see, the problem is that hamas relies on the support of the population, this whole program of hatred and destruction of israel is supported by the vast majority of residents of the gas sector, so when they say, you know, the israeli military, we will destroy hamas, we will provide security ourselves, and it will there's the palestinian authority, i think it is unlikely option for this simple reason that if there is a population, there is no understanding of it, this population will, when this population wants to live with its own problems, and not with the problems of the destruction of israel, we do not know that, but we talked to you about the united arab emirates, if you look closely at the gas sector and the united arab emirates, this is approximately the same territory, ugh, in the gas sector, there are better climatic conditions, ports, in 2005, the last israeli soldier left this territory, it came under complete control palestinian authority on unlike the event.