should suffer the most severe punishment, i officially declare that as the head of the lviv ov, i did not introduce ihor hrynkevich to officials of the ministry of defense of ukraine and did not in any way promote his cooperation with the ministry of defense of ukraine. well, returning to corruption in the ministry of defense, as the minister of defense rustem umyerov said the previous evening, during the last four months, during the internal audit in the structures of the ministry of defense, it was possible to discover... violations amounting to 10 billion uah. yuriy nikolov, journalist and founder of the project, joins our broadcast our money, i would say, is the supervisor of contracts in the ministry of defense. good evening. hello everyone, good evening. look, today the representative of the ministry of defense announced that the ministry of defense is terminating contracts with companies connected with the family of the lviv businessman hrynkevich. and you didn't check, they already terminated it, because the journalists wrote that at the time... when the ministry of defense announced this,

the contracts for transparency still existed, so they intend to terminate it, or is there still hope that they have already terminated it? to be honest, i flew to you on the air directly from the subway, i am not yet transparent , i will definitely do it, as now i will arrange everything and climb and write about it publicly, well, but if, if they announced, then there is a possibility, yes, i think it is definitely , that is, so far , rustem umerov's team has not given any reason to believe that... their words are different from their deeds, i just understand for sure, well, i have been dealing with transparently for a long time, that between the notification of the intention to do this and the publication, time always passes bureaucracy , that is, there is no such evil intention here, so if they say, it will be done, yuriy, and in general, as i understood from the publications on our money, the hrynkevich family has been on the radar of investigative journalists for a long time, and you? and to you this this

person, and this family, and their companies, this, this is not something new? yes, of course, the first mention of gyankevych was about 10 years ago, so, let's say, it was understood by the family of ukrainian business, as we will call it, business as usual, which, as usual, does business according to ukrainian practices permeated with corruption components, but how did it happen that... c he mainly works, his companies are engaged in construction, they receive tenders for construction, here with the war , construction companies began to supply clothes for the military, which means he pulled out some golden ticket in some viscountess in the ministry of defense, which allowed him to enter that history , in itself the business of supplying bulletproof vests or food there is not newton's binomial, it is an ordinary buy-sell, it does not require any kind of mega-infrastructure there. however, mega-speakers, the only

thing you need to know is which window to knock and what amount of arguments to offer so that you were elected with such a supply, that is, you, if i understood you correctly, you are hinting that hrenkevych could have patrons in the highest offices of power, with whom he shared these arguments, and here law enforcement agencies have their say , you and i can guess about anything . but you can't take our words to the bank, and therefore, let's put it this way, i will be very grateful to the law enforcement if they demonstrate at least on this model case that the law enforcement officers are fighting corruption, and not they sell cases, but look, here we are now showing the video of how he was detained, opened according to it, he is now in a pre-trial detention center, a criminal case has been opened specifically for bribery, for attempting to give a bribe, and not for any entanglements that might have taken place. on purchases for the defense forces, and this is

a very, as they say, a sad and sad part of the story, why? because for, let's say, for trying, for bribes on contracts of the ministry of defense, i still don't know that anyone from the business has responded, and for no cases, moreover, grenkevich, with whom the food contract has now been terminated, yes, but why with him they terminated the food contract, because he was accused of being a bully, so why should the contract be terminated... i believe that the contract is bad? if the contract with him is bad, then why was it concluded, and if the contract is bad with him, and with others, what are normal contracts? let me remind you, the contract with hrynkevich was terminated, but the contracts with tetyana glinina's companies continue to be valid , which just these days it turned out that she bought four hotels in croatia with her margin from the contracts of the ministry of defense, everything is fine there, everything is fine there. and then what about the colonel of the armed forces

of the logistics forces of the armed forces of ukraine, which, according to the sdb, is 170 million, there, or rather, his family withdrew it from atms in khmelnytskyi. like the money that looked like kickbacks from other food companies, not hrenkevich and not even glynnaya, that is , everything is fine with him, but yesterday witnesses saw him at work in the armed forces of ukraine, that is , there are criminal proceedings, but no one has been arrested, that's why i say , this is a sad and sad part of the story, that you are put in prison for the wrong thing, for what, well, more precisely, for what is necessary, somehow it passes by, yes, until you are already caught. it's somehow very embarrassing, huh, but i'll come back to horynkevych in the context of his relationship with maksym kozytskyi, the head of the lviv region, i understand that hrynkevich's companies most often won tenders in lviv region, although not only in other regions as well , and we saw today that

kozytsky dissociated himself from him, although he does not hide that there were criminal proceedings against these companies in his offices and firms, but how is this to be understood, that is? a very logical position, well, really, there is nothing to criticize here, look, hrynkevich made money from tenders and won these contracts long before kazytskyi appeared in our politics at all, that is, he certainly will not own kozytskyi, i say, hrynkevich has been involved in our money for 10 years , since the time of yanukovych, so what's the point here kozytsky, that's how he won contracts, that's how there were criminal proceedings against his companies, but criminal proceedings are not an excuse. not to give a contract from the point of view of deur, i keep talking about it, we live in ukraine, and just yesterday i spoke with specialists in this matter, i say how much does it cost in ukraine to open a criminal case against a competitor, well , they say, on such and such conditions, 500 bucks,

on such and such conditions, 10,000 bucks, so exclude that your case is opened, or even by the prosecutors themselves for the fact that you are not you want to pay someone a kickback, i... didn't, and that's why we have a good rule that protects at least from such arbitrariness that you can't participate in tenders, but if you were convicted of a corruption crime, and not for the very fact of criminal proceedings, well, from such arbitrariness, at least to be safe, and unfortunately, here we have these double pitchforks with velzels, as they said in one movie, and when exactly this norm helps people who have already been fixed on... on bad stories, but it helps them to stay in this business, unfortunately, it is precisely because law enforcement officers in ukraine historically, well, they are part of the deeply corrupt, deeply corrupt deep state, our deep administration, which is an element of this

system of self-defense of corrupt people, law enforcement officers open the case, but then, when they sell you have a ticket close, that is magically, grynkevich became the beneficiary of this system too, when there are a lot of criminal proceedings, but no verdict, but there is no verdict, you work, but the fact that he was taken on a bribe so very quite revealingly on the very new year, they were obviously preparing for this, yes, he is talking about something, about the fact that perhaps his patrons are no longer within the walls of the ministry of defense, or maybe they are just trying to... take some away from someone, and i understand that today my colleagues and i were just discussing this, our thoughts converged on the fact that hrynkevich, well, it's just like that now a sacred sacrifice for himself, because of all the suppliers of the ministry of defense, well, he is not the largest, that's for sure, well, his contracts, which

are terminated even today, are not the largest, the larger contracts are precisely with ms. glynyana, well, the owner of a hotel in croatia, but... . and all the more so that he was taken, i say , for a bribe there, the fact that he wanted the state security bureau to remove the seizure from his construction property there, indicates that, well, this did not concern the ministry of defense, this investigation, this some other checkers, you know, checkers checkers, that's what we call it, and so am i for now i don't see the same activity of law enforcement officers on other beneficiaries, the much larger beneficiaries of the scheme of the ministry of defense, here we see one case, and... many others, which are also being talked about these days, and there are even criminal proceedings, here there is nothing, so it seems to me that it is more like selective justice, although it, well, judging by what i know about the hrynkevich family, about their business and the contracts for recruitment and other

construction, it should have arrived from the law enforcement officers a long time ago, well but it just happened now, you have already mentioned the name of glynyana twice , i will explain to our audience that the other day an investigation was published by the publication nv business about the fact that there is such a woman, her name is tetyana glynyana, she is the owner of large business groups that. .. there is enough food for the armed forces, that she bought four, four and five-star hotels in the resort town of split in croatia over the last year, and as far as i understand, it was her companies that supplied the famous 17 eggs that you once talked about , yes, yes, yes, this is exactly the grouping with 17 eggs, and there i am i didn't see anything about the activity of the sbi in terms of finding and punishing there, well, even that is not visible , not because there... she is hiding from the investigation there or something else, she bought three of the four hotels in september 23, that is,

already six months later, after it became public, her name came up, nothing, she continues her business, as well as the colonel of the armed forces of the logistics forces, who is in the materials of the sbi, he is already there even in the court register, a story appeared, that he, his family, 170 million hryvnias were deposited into cash from food contracts, nothing, it’s fine for work, moreover, he wanted to buy a factory for the manufacture of prostheses in the city of khmelnytskyi through a front company, this is in november of the 23rd year, well, this is here, these are these weeks, months, and, but at the same time, at the beginning of our during the conversation , you said that the minister, minister umyerov , demonstrates interest and readiness to fight corruption in the department? yes,

yes, absolutely, it’s clear, well, but just the minister of defense, he can no longer come to arrest glinina there or grynkevich, that should be carried out by law enforcement agencies, while what i see, well, it makes me a cautious optimist, what is being liquidated now , not only the schemes, but also from... bets, well, people who implemented and defended these schemes for many years, i know, and, well, so to speak, from the very inside we cooperate with the agency, well , relatively speaking, with people who are engaged in the selection of new people, so i know that the ministry of defense is now going from top to bottom to replace the people who sat in these schemes, that is, simply not in a revolutionary way , you know, kick everyone out and then lead. look for someone to hire for that position, go slowly, and

what also gives me hope is that rustem umirov, in recent days, has already said several times that ah, you wanted to fight corruption, so here it is, here are the arrests, here detentions , resignations, liquidation of schemes, audits that found violations, we will repair them, audits, by the way, audits, as he said, found violations of uah 10 billion, and who to present this to now, i don't know . what kind of violation, i.e. we just got a stupid message about some kind of violation, i don't even know what kind of violation it is, so he says about corruption violations, i do n’t know, but about which ones, i don’t know, according to which story, according to which contract, unfortunately, there are no details, that is , here because here, what can be said here , it’s good that they found something, i hope they will fix it, but why 10 and not 100 billion, and according to what history, maybe something? sees, doesn’t see something, that is, it’s like this, you know, the message is still without context, and i, well, there’s nothing

to comment on, it’s just more clear to me another story that umerov’s team is doing, they are really changing the procurement system and really they are changing personnel, this is a more visible proof for me that there are systemic changes, and these personnel they are replacing are old personnel, do you see any movement on the part of law enforcement agencies? no, well, seriously, if there were questions for them, i don’t see, look, there are people , managers who came to the ministry of defense and try to do what they can within their competence, and there are law enforcement agencies that, well, traditionally for years, they are used to selling things there, getting drunk, breaking, ruining, not doing, well, that is, they are already weaned from normal... investigations, even me, well several cases are known when the law enforcement officers even wanted to punish the criminals, but

they lacked professional competence and had already forgotten how to draw up protocols correctly, so they made elementary mistakes, because of which judges, lawyers, and corrupt officials later destroyed them, therefore, on it's a pity, corruption breeds chaos, and it's a problem that won't be solved right away, but i'll hope that the law enforcement officers... will draw their own conclusions from this story, because otherwise, as they say, we'll lose the internal war corrupt, and that's all our story will end. but the fact itself, you know, to get a favorable answer from yuri. nikolov that you noticed that the ministry of defense intends to fight corruption, it is probably expensive, this is how i thought about this, a lot is needed and a little at the same time, a lot because a real effort should be made to change procurement rules, but not enough it 's because we talked about it a long time ago, and it's not some , you know, phenomenal fiction and

so on, relatively speaking, reznikov should have done it right away with a bullet, well, when everything happened. it is known, but unfortunately, he was engaged in sabotage , and a new team came and just started doing it, but i say, it is not, it is not binom nitona to do it, and therefore i, judging by the facts, after a few months, when the new team already at the procurement, he will show how much the delivery of eggs to the front line actually costs, because it will be very expensive at the auction, and then we will all laugh at these conversations about how magic logistics is, thank you very much, yuriy nikolov, journalist and founder of the project, our money, we talked about corruption in the ministry of defense. as always, next, i will put an end to today's broadcast, subscribe to radio svoboda's page on the internet and svoboda live will return to the air tomorrow. there are discounts on amicitron of 20% in pharmacies

psylansky, pam and uschad. there are discounts on optimal 15% in podorozhnyk pam and pharmacies. state congratulations. the main russian propagandists of the holiday gave russians a break from them. and in russian news, on russian television, the main topics were the attacks on belgorod and festive meetings and greetings of putin in various interiors. well, still hope for a greeting. will come later, but about the strikes, they tried to tell that this is something that has never happened before, and it is something very new, from the point of view of information value, get me right, this is a professional term, it is routine , it does not

stand out from the main information flow in any way. and with bilhorod, the first shelling, i would like to remind you, happened in may 2022, and that event caused complete surprise, it was such an explosion of emotions, the audience swallowed every frame that came from bilhorodskaya region, therefore, as it seemed to us at the time, an incredible thing happened, the ukrainians dared to fire on the territory of the great russia, they hit then. to the oil depot, but it turned out that way, i don’t know why, that for many people, now their personal biography will be divided into two parts: before the ukrainian attack on belgorod and after, and after, well, what is so unusual, as he said , in routine,

literally blows, which for him is an informational routine for a propagandist, eh? the fact is that russian propaganda was trying to attack belgorod specifically used to present the russian federation as a victim of the war. well, this trick didn't work out. what upset russian propagandists? america and europe in one voice cover ukrainian terrorists and justify the attack on belgorod. then the amazing thing started, when the whole event said: everything is fine. the belgorod tragedy. and what a pleasure it is for them to strike crimea, just joy, and the west supports it. we are dealing with the complete acceptance in europe, in the west as a whole, of the possibility of destroying russian civilians, this is for they are normal. well, that is, they called for the extermination of ukrainian civilians for two years, and now

they are terribly surprised why the extermination of russian civilians suddenly became normal. well, actually, what we are talking about is that on december 30 , explosions rang out in the center of belgorod. the governor of the belgorod region, vyacheslav vlastkov , announced the shelling and said that a total of 24 people were killed and more than 100 wounded among the civilian population. well, ukrainian sources with reference to special services wrote that the destruction of civilian objects and the death of these civilians were the result of unprofessional actions of russian anti-aircraft fighters. debris fell there and this happened, and it is not the first time that russian bombs have fallen there, even when the russians simply went down and fell and it was a miracle in the past. year, it was a miracle that no one was injured in that belgorod. well, in the end, the ukrainian military expert, oleksandr kovalenko , refuted the russians' claims about the strikes on belgorod, zersv, which the russians claimed,

he said that it was simply impossible, because either there was too little ammunition to to deliver such blows, and others simply do not reach there, but what is interesting is putin's reaction to this whole story, which shows that... when the russian army, on putin's order, struck in kharkov, in mykolaiv, in kherson, it would still are, those are the same rszv, but in fact, putin perfectly understands that this is a crime, look, he himself confirms it, under the cover of two missiles, under the cover of two vilha missiles, it seems that what they did, they hit from the systems under the alpine fire of the rszzo, mlrs what is rszzo? you, as military men, know that this is a weapon indiscriminate, hitting the squares. with this weapon

, they hit right in the center of the city, where people were walking before the new year. a targeted attack on the civilian population is, of course, a terrorist attack, it cannot be called otherwise. well, let's talk a little about this with larisa. a self-proclaimed psychologist journalist, and let's actually talk about that, but what if this, as propagandist mardan said, a routine story suddenly became so important that for 10 days russian propagandists continue to talk about it and insist and try to get something out of it, yes that i'm asking our guest to put on the air so we can talk. congratulations, mrs. larisa. congratulations, well, actually, why, why such a violent reaction, as they say, to a routine news story? well, the first

thing to understand is that this double discourse, a routine story, existed until it was necessary to pretend that nothing terrible was happening in order to reduce the indignation of the population, but... it became a terrorist attack by putin then, when the concept has changed, i will remind you that vladimir putin has a career, in general, exactly the appointment of himself as the president of russia, because we understand that he is seconded there from the fsb, and for putin, his election as president for the first time was precisely against the background of terrorist attacks, so-called... chechen militants, russians, most likely, russian propagandists , decided to unite the russian population around putin for this invented

tragedy, here i agree with mr. kovalenko, this is most likely their work, because the way they change their legend, and what is more, what they got from the csha at the meeting. with the un when western intelligence they can clearly see who shot and where they shot from, so in this case, after all, we have to talk about the fact that the russians, crooked hands, did not hold back their own weapons, directed them against their own people, and after that they decided to raise the ratings with their weapons. well , it's interesting that when similar attacks occurred in crimea, do you remember? sinking another ship of feodosia, they tried, it was at the end of last year, and then they tried

to end it with such a scandal, which, by the way, was also continued this year, and let's talk about it, too, because at first it seemed like such a momentary distraction, we are talking about nastia ivleva's party with a dress code of almost naked, which took place at night. on december 21 , 2023, in the moscow club mutabarovo, this party was attended by about two hundred guests, it was a private party, it was not public, it was not some kind of demonstration, among them there were philip kirkorov, ksenia sobchak, diba milan , the singer glukoza, lalita milyavska, well, they were dressed boldly enough for these, and suddenly literally in the morning, but at night it was the morning of the same 21st. december, suddenly there were some statements, some non-combatants, that they were offended by this when they had time to see it, this is also a mystery, and by the way... at first, i

say, it looked like something very frivolous, and well, in principle, it would have looked more frivolous if it had not dragged on for so long, and literally just a little while ago the owner of this restaurant was forced to hand over some relics to the russian orthodox church there, it looks comical enough to to wash away from this party , well, let's see how he did it, the relics of the saint , these are the relics of saint nicholas, we want to present them accordingly, at the same time i want to say that the money was received, we have several clubs, including mutabor, so famous in connection with recent events, but we say that we are against darkness, devilry, we support the church in different ways, save the lord, it is a great honor for us, we brought the relics at the beginning of november and were waiting for christmas. respectively

christmas, well, it's interesting to see how this one is the owner, he fought against the same dark monster there literally a week ago, he also posted photos of himself there with approximately the same plan as those at the party, and nothing in principle particularly scared him at that time, and moreover these stories, as if it was them earlier and only now, well, for that, it is necessary to tell that i am exactly that owner and exactly with this party.

but as for lgbt propaganda, specifically on this, in my opinion, it's completely stupid, but a normal guy has nothing to show for it, show a fine for lgbt propaganda, to honored artist of russia philip pedrosovich kirkorov, no wishes, to our order bearer for lgbt propaganda, equally.

that's what all these things are used for by some people, i don't like it, the topic is exhausted, everything was said about the topic yesterday. well, he made a mistake, because she was not a vecherpana, all this, again, it's been going on for two weeks now, the moscow court. there , lifortovsky called it propaganda of non-traditional sexual relations, and the rapper there, who came with socks instead of, let's say, underpants, was imprisoned for 15 days, then he was fined, then he was imprisoned for another 10 days, then he was brought some kind of summons to the army, the participants of all the parties apologized, the organizer anastasia ivliva was fined 100

00 first, then... in general, it all turned into something very strange the story, when the organizers of the party were sued for the same ivlyuvo, it was already organized by another actor, oleksandr taky inshakov, he is an actor and stuntman, who is known for the fact that he was sanctioned in the united states for working with her organized in russian crime in the same states, so he and 22 other people were exposed to...

all of them evoke positive emotions in people.