this should actually be a ukrainian victory, therefore, probably, we need to reformat both communication policy and many internal political issues if we want unity and unification of today's society, away from what has always really united us around our, ukrainian, values european. thank you, mrs. yevgenia, i will ask you, because there are at least three journalists on the air, and we understand what we are talking about. and i understand that mr. andriy also knows the kitchen, obviously, how the media works, but at least we are people, who have worked and work in the media, and we know what information policy is, how it is formed, where it comes from, i have a rather simple question: zelenskyi is talking about what we need to somehow combat these russian disinformation resources that is all over the world.

including in ukraine, they are quite actively working, and with which, with which resources do we approach in order to overcome these disinformation and information resources, and what the state is ready to invest, how to invest in order to create some resources that could cover there european countries or there are african countries or asian countries, some kind of conditional foreign language, not freedom, but a foreign language that can tell about what is happening in... ukraine to show everything, how, what is happening, why can't we invest in it? well, i will probably say something quite unpleasant, but it must be understood, we will never go after the russians, for russia in the form of financial infusions into this informational struggle, because, well, russia officially spends billions, and billions of cash are not yet officially coming , and these are billions in currency. so in

in dollars, in euros, indeed, they work all over the world, and if in europe, uh, well, we have sanctions from the european commission there, uh, from the very beginning, in fact, after february 24, on the activities of propaganda resources there, and this is very good , that in the end these sanctions were imposed, and we, by the way, work in international organizations, and now i am the head of the paris committee on culture, science and media, and... actually, we are preparing a resolution on propaganda in europe, actually russian propaganda , and it is very important to call a spade a spade, which is not freedom words, not freedom of expression, this is a dirty game of the kremlin, and what’s more, playing with minds and voters, by the way, in all of these, including western countries, let’s talk about africa, there about south america, resources that are actually working there or belong indirectly. or

financed by russia, regarding the foreign language, i do not think that we can even just physically and and well, these are large financial resources and time resources to make our own english-language version of the bbc there, we have, by the way, a foreign language, it and in english there is in youtube, there is a spanish version, there is an arabic version, can it fully meet the needs of... like the state, absolutely not, i think that one of the options is the cooperation of ukrainian content producers of ukrainian media with already known resources , which have an audience in the west, this is, for example, a good example of public, which share their materials throughout the ebu network, yes, the european union of broadcasters, and there are very good indicators, it's a good investment in my opinion. of the investing state and

finances a public broadcaster, which further disseminates this information, and of course, it is necessary to work in the countries themselves and our diplomats, by the way, literally today in the italian city of modena , the permit for this exhibition there, which the russian propagandists wanted to hold there and tell about it, was canceled , how mariupol is being rebuilt there, it's well... the reaction was the ministry of foreign affairs, the reaction, by the way, of ukrainians in italy, and it's normal that ukrainians should be, they should be heard in every country where they interrupt, stay, and i absolutely agree , which is important parliamentary and personal connections. thank you, ms. yevgenia , mr. andriy, what do you think about how ukraine should fight, because the word, as the dean of the faculty of journalism, anatoly moskalenko, once said , is a weapon, and... it should always be next to

another weapon, and that is russia against us is fighting, including with the word, the main thing is that we do not fight against ourselves, you know, the fact that you showed a quote from volodymyr zelenskyi, it is absolutely phenomenal, phenomenal, because this is all he correctly says about the information war, about the war disinformation of the russian federation, i am ready to subscribe under every word, what you just showed, says volodymyr oleksandrovich zelenskyi, but at the same time, returning to our discussion about mobilization, in the last two weeks that have passed since the registration of the government draft law. on christmas, the only thing we achieved was the improvement of mobilization, we sowed even more despair and fear, people perceive mobilization exclusively as a call to the assembly center, which for everyone looks like a black hole, where a person falls and everything

disappears forever, no one understands anything , with about a week, oh, a month and a half, probably by december 25, the date of registration of the draft law, the efforts of some deputies from the servant of the people are seconds on the air, mr. andriy, i owe you well, well, it is now critically important for us not to make mistakes inside the country, it is critically important hire high-quality communication teams, and ending with mobilization, no matter what law we pass, if the ministry of defense and the general staff do not hire high-quality media people who will not explain to people on a daily basis how, what, for what, why we are doing, the chances of... quality mobilization resets are almost ghostly. thank you. andriy osachuk, viktoriya syumar, yevgenia kravchuk were guests of our program today. ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in the program. during the program, we conducted surveys. we asked you about whether ukraine needs a new holiday, a day of thanksgiving to god. so, what are the results of the poll on

teleplay? please show me. 67%, 57% yes, 43% no. these are the results of our survey today, it was a program. serhii rudenko, i wish everyone good health, take care of yourself and your relatives, see you tomorrow at 8:00 p.m., goodbye, greetings, dear tv viewers, on the air of the tv channel, studio zahid program, we will analyze the most important events of this week, there are quite a lot of them, and we will try to predict what the following weeks will bring us. today's guests are roman bezsmertny and glen grant. now the iconic ukrainian politician and diplomat roman bezsmertny will work on the espresso tv channel. glory to ukraine, mr. roman. christ is born with the new year. thank you

and merry christmas and happy new year. well, the key story is a scenario of a long war, we understand that the russian federation is ready to inflict massive large-scale strikes on our defense and... civil infrastructure, so we understand that they are achieving certain successes, but the successes are quite conditional, yes, because our system anti-aircraft defense is constantly growing and it is possible to shoot down enemy missiles, shahedis and so on, although not as much as we would all like, and accordingly we are entering a long process of the so-called competition of defense systems, state apparatuses, well and accordingly battlefield, military vehicle. it is a very serious mechanism, but from the point of view of comparative characteristics, their analysis, qualitative, quantitative, it is not so difficult to compare, if we compare the potential opportunities

of the russian federation now, it has actually set the budget for the current year with its decisions. an extremely high task, and if i were asked whether i believe that these indicators will be achieved, understanding everything that the totalitarian machine, the post-soviet machine represents, and yes, in some way it will be achieved, but not in technologies, not in quality and not in the indicators that are indicated, as of... december 2024, according to quantitative indicators, these capacities in terms of aid to ukraine will help ukraine to gain dominance on the front in terms of ammunition, armored vehicles, at

the end of the spring of the closure the sky from impacts by missiles and... and bombing systems, i.e. these indicators, i am now talking about the plans, at first i said about the plans that are in russia, now i am talking about the plans that are in... the european community, nato countries and specific corporations engaged in the production of equipment. next, i think that many of the listeners and viewers noticed this thing that sounded throughout 2023, this is the so-called bloc of countries that will be engaged in the production of artillery, armor. equipment, aircraft and increasing the naval capabilities of ukraine, the so-called coalition of guns, armored vehicles,

aviation and naval capabilities. we have already forgotten about those coalitions that were formed within the framework of ramstein and the so-called copenhagen format, where the anglo-saxon states separately formed their coalition to help ukraine. i will once again repeat the thesis that... can already be found in the western press, german, british and some american publications. according to the indicators of 2024, ukraine will achieve dominance in certain indicators, thanks to the help of europe and the united states of america, this should be recognized, this should be understood, and from the point of view of the competition between the totalitarian system and the system. democratic, competitive system, i have no doubt that german,

american, french, british corporations will overcome these achievements, because firstly, the private-state formula is applied there of cooperation, that is, both the state and the private sector undertake to launch these industrial lines. because it is not only about the quantitative parameters of the production of equipment, ammunition and weapons, it is actually in several cases about the construction of certain lines from scratch, and it is not only about achieving parity and dominance in conventional weapons, but also about making a qualitative leap, not coincidentally in the final articles of 2023 economist and in the first 20 articles of 2023

build and economist began to write about the fact that in the congress of the united states of america formed the majority, which insists on supplying ukraine with modern complexes, medium-range missile complexes. it is not by chance that in the ukrainian military, after the bombings and rocket attacks during the christmas and new year... holidays of ukraine , the russian military returned to the topic of transferring the war to the territory of the enemy, and now they have started writing about it again, because it is a direct consequence of the fact that the coalition formed in the congress the supply of modern weapons and medium-range missile systems to ukraine is a matter of course 300 to 800 km, so this is what we are talking about... if you add to this the fact that today there are armored vehicles and the f-16, then in

principle you can look at the year 2023 quite optimistically in terms of, let's say, and stabilization, well, first of all, the most important thing for me is in the informational and psychological state, because this is this depressed person, who is sorry for slang, who hung in the air at the end of 2020. he is dangerous not because he breaks the front line, he is ours, ours the feeling kills, but as shown by the polls of the democratic foundation initiatives and the rozumkov center at the end of 2023, they were made public somewhere in the 10s, at the beginning of the 20s, even in december, 90% of ukrainians are convinced of victory, and... if we talk about the mood of ukrainian society, it carries encouraging,

encouraging character and content, therefore , both external and internal parameters of 2024 will determine these things, according to which trends they can be characterized, well, we can talk about this a lot, but i am convinced that in this confrontation, which begins now with comparison. dream indicators of the budget and so on further, russia, it will not be able to compete with the west, it is fundamentally incapable of doing so by its very nature. so your truth is that no matter what they plan, they can only bridge their way to the front line with people, and they will continue to do it, they will continue to do it, and this should be understood as the main means of storming

ukraine from the aggressor mr. roman, you mentioned that it will be possible to finally implement a strategic vision, in particular regarding the supply of medium-range missile systems range, this is an extremely important decision, and i do not want to involve this matter, in particular, in what, for example, happened on the territory of the russian federation, in particular, when we are talking about the belgorod region, i do not have secret information about the military plan, yes, well, but we understand what narratives are spreading in the russian federation, we must give a clear answer to... the issue of belgorod , the armed forces of ukraine have nothing to do with what happened there. the fact is that both vykursk and bilhorodsk regions, which are border regions, through whose territory missile complexes are launched in ukraine, they risk the fact that some of the complexes,

without reaching ukraine, fall in kursk as well. and in belgorod, well, in other border regions of the russian federation, and now it has already been proven, by the remains of those fragments of missile complexes, which, or ah, it has already become fashionable to talk about the fact that the combat part of the missile has moved away, on it went somewhere there to a kindergarten or to a private residential complex and so on. at the same time, i would ask everyone to pay attention. attention to that thesis, expressed by dmytro yarosh in his post. what is he right about? the ukrainian side must clearly develop a response plan to similar shelling of cities, villages, and ukraine. do not reflect. this is the most important thing. it is necessary to determine

the objects and points that fall under the category. and military objects, and when shelling is pouring in, to react and hit these objects, the principle of reflection cannot be applied here in any case: i shoot where i see, this is the first thing, i insist on this once again, and it is necessary that everyone understood that, ukraine has not shelled and will not shelling non-military objects, non-military objects, this is to... compliance, strict compliance with the norms of humanitarian law. i do not want to name the number, the digital number , how many military personnel of ukraine, representatives of the defense forces, that is, both the armed forces and the national guard, and voluntary military formations, today, ah, are in prison

for violating humanitarian law , but i emphasize this once again, the ukrainian... army, the armed forces of ukraine adhere to the norms of humanitarian law, and if there are any cases occur both from the point of view of events on the front and in the rear, then these are excesses, this is something that does not fall under orders, commands and so on, and is an exception, and is an accidental event, which is recognized by the ukrainian political leadership and the military. as a violation of humanitarian law. i was a little taken aback by the fact that after the events in belgorod, some ukrainian journalists began to talk about the fact, or maybe it was ours, that they began to strike anywhere, i emphasize this, the armed forces of ukraine do not strike at civilian objects, because

every military has a souvenir with him, c which is painted, this note is according to... another instruction letter of the ministry of defense, ministry of health, general staff in 2015, there are relevant instructions of the general staff, ministry of defense, which are approved by presidential decree and orders of ministries and agencies that regulate the behavior of soldiers, representatives of the armed forces of ukraine, who fully... comply with and are obliged to comply with the norms of humanitarian law. well, i totally agree with you and we understand how the enemy would want to use it. on the one hand, the enemy speaking of the fact that... it is ukraine that is shelling bilhorod, he is counting on his domestic audience, right? well, at one time they blew up houses, yes, you remember the story about the so-called ryazan sugar and so on and

so forth, in order to activate the processes of internal mobilization of the russian nation. on the other hand, we also understand that it is intended for whom? it was not for nothing that a missile flew to poland at our transoceanic and european allies. i will kill you, now after the events in belgorod. on initiative on the russian side , the security council was convened, please draw your attention to the position of the representatives of the united states , france, great britain and germany, who gave an absolutely clear assessment: this is a matter of disorder in the russian army, and claims about what happened in biloghar must be not to ukraine, but to the kremlin. ukraine adheres to the norms between of humanitarian law, and this was also proven by subsequent reports about the fragments of those rockets that

fell on the heads of the civilian population in belgorod and other border settlements points now, as for the missiles that flew into the territory of poland. poland is a nato country. on, the territory of poland, as well as the territory. of all nato countries in matters of anti-missile and anti-aircraft security is monitored by the aegis system, this is the anti-missile defense system of nato countries, which bears the name aegis. this system is managed from two centers, from ramstein in europe and from mir in turkey. this system is able to monitor the situation, starting from a... the entire field, the entire sky of nato countries, ending with neighboring states. the system is on standby in automatic mode. if the announced

parameters are correct, and they say that the missile flew 40 km into the territory of poland, then this means that this system was disabled from automatic activation, that is... that depending on who was on duty, or the control center in ramstein, or the control center in izmir, the one who was in charge of this monitoring gave the command to turn it off, because i say again, when taking off , the corresponding trajectory, and it is calculated by the signature very simply, by the monitoring system, such a missile can go astray by the system of progress, both at the stage of... rising into the air, and at the stage of reaching the highest point and when aiming at the target, i.e. the iedjs system, which is currently unique from

the point of view of controlling the skies of nato countries. and it is not clear to me, or they were wrong, and to this day, incorrect parameters are circulating in the press regarding where and how far this rocket flew, because i do not believe that the command. the system could disable the automatic operation mode of this system, including unfounded claims that these the missiles in question - well, they are all missiles of the iskander complex, let's say, they are capable of bypassing the monitoring systems of the aegis anti-missile defense, so the question requires further... assertion or refutation from the point of view of the reliability of the facts that have been voiced, but the fact that the missile flew into the territory of poland, that's true. another thing is that

the statements that the poles were unable, the poles are not capable, this is not true, because i emphasize this once again: the patriot system, which is on duty, including in poland, is integrated into the aegis system. in in ukraine, petrios is in an autonomous control mode, it is not integrated into the igis system, hence, the missile, anti-missile, anti-missile complex petriou is only a tool for the impression of an attacking attacking missile, and not a self-sufficient institution. therefore, to present claims to the poles, well, it's a little wrong, because we don't know the things i'm talking about now, by virtue of which. circumstances, these conditions were met, well, in order for me, for example, to draw a conclusion, i need additional information, so i can clearly tell you what happened and why such an action took place, or

without... i can’t do the activity, and without knowing certain information, it’s not a state, well, it’s just that there are specifics of certain protocols, so we understand that the enemy, in particular the russian federation, he can knowingly, pretending that he is so to speak, some missiles are accidental, he can deliberately direct them, so pay attention to the thesis that was voiced by prime minister tusk, he said that in a strategic perspective. is definitely a target for russia, that is, here he is very wise, let's say, if the key to the problem was wrapped in wrapper, he said not now, but in the strategic perspective, on the one hand, if he gives a chance to moscow, beijing, and tehran to come to their senses, and on the other hand, he understands that there is no one to come to their senses, and therefore

it is necessary increase security. defense potential, but all the same it leaves a chance for another, another way of introducing a dialogue with the fuehrer of moscow, and i must say that, so far, i do not see a more accurate depiction of the situation that happened with this missile, that is, for the poles, for poland, for them it was clear for a long time that there is moscow, but this incident with the missile, he absolutely clearly in... pointed out that europe is a target, the bild also wrote about it at the beginning of 2024, there literally in the first issues that there will be an attack by russia in the winter of 2024-25 on the european states, at the moment when there will be a transition from one president to another in washington, well, it’s not by chance... and

peter pavel said that 2024 may return in an unpleasant way, pay attention to how he said, he has not yet said for ukraine, he said for us, for us, he said, although for some reason in ukraine it was interpreted as for ukraine, although the situation is such that from the point of view of ukraine and a ukrainian, ukraine and the european union are common, well, what not everyone in europe understands today, and what is good for ukraine until... . for europe, what is good for europe is good for ukraine, and vice versa, bad is bad here and there, here, but here are the two positions that were voiced by the build with references to european intelligence and peter pavlo about the threats of the next year, well, they were simply demonstrated by this missile, i am convinced that knowing russian diplomacy, understanding it.

tools of action, these two frenzied attacks on ukraine, which happened at the end of last year and at the beginning of this year, this is, as it were , a confirmation of the theses that they are ready to attack european states, this is the first, and second, this coincidence is not accidental with the theses that what do you see there, theses appeared in the western press. about the fact that putin is giving signals about some negotiations, that is, this is what is called forceful coercion of diplomacy, and this is how it should be interpreted, it should be understood, and in response, it is necessary to build up capacities of anti-missile, anti-aircraft security and to prepare appropriate gifts for the moscow führer so that he does not feel his

inadequacy, and the absolutely correct thesis that the current situation requires the transfer of the war to the territory of russia. how to do it? this is already a matter for the military, a matter for the general staffs, i am not saying only the ukrainian general staff, but also the allied staffs. well, from my point of view, 2024 should be the year of formation of combat-ready forces. the rammstein format and the management system, to the point that something flashed in the western press regarding the probable opening of the second front, where and how, this is again a matter for the staffs, but in addition to helping ukraine, one must think about how the moscow fuhrer's appetites are for attacking europe and other points.