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my greetings, this is the svoboda ranok project, my name is oleg galiv, we only have important topics and important guests, there are at least 12 injured people in kharkiv, where... the hotel complex was hit by russian forces with s-300 missiles the day before. this is reported by the regional authorities, the condition of the victims and the scale of the destruction. member of parliament maryana bezugla, who publicly criticized the work in recent weeks commander-in-chief valery zaluzhnyi wrote a statement about leaving the servant of the people faction and party. she announced this on facebook at night. they said that she was demanded, i quote, to keep quiet, that the national security committee was doing nothing. bezugla da belongs to this committee.

more details of the decision regarding the future government bill on mobilization will be decided at the conciliation council, the head of the servant of the people faction in the parliament, davyd arahamiya, wrote about this, in addition, he announced personnel changes in the committees of the verkhovna rada. don't forget to subscribe on youtube radio svoboda channel, and it is important that our videos fall into the recommendations and you do not lose them among others. hotel in which the day before. more than 30 people were there, came under fire from russian forces in kharkiv, at least 12 people were injured, nine had to be hospitalized. the head of the kharkiv regional military administration, oleg synygubov, told about it. among the wounded, foreign journalists from the turkish media fired two rockets from s-300 complexes into the hotel. in addition to the destruction of the hotel complex, there was also a fire as well as cars. residential buildings, a car dealership and a manufacturing enterprise were also damaged. according to the information of the national police, this hotel was inhabited mostly by foreigners.

right now, our correspondent from the scene of the event is joining the broadcast of svoboda ranok, this is hanna chernenko, she works in kharkiv, we can ask her more now, hanna, congratulations, please tell us the latest details, what is known as of now, maybe in what condition . sufferers, congratulations, yes, you know, we have unfortunately increased the number of wounded, if at night we knew about 11 people, now we are talking about 12 injured, and one of them, one person is serious, as far as we have talked now with the representatives, with the hotel employees, it is one of the employees, the administrator, and actually, regarding the damage, you can see cars that burned behind as a result of that hit, in addition, i can... show now, this is what the hotel looks like,

a three-story building, brand new, in which not only kharkiv residents, but guests of the city stayed very often, in particular i want to say separately that several groups of foreign and one of the workers is injured, we have already talked with the employees. and they said that at night there were about eight staff members and 20 people here - they are guests, and it was very, very lucky that the rocket did not hit the occupied building of the hotel, but in the adjacent one, which was empty, but still the glass injured and buried people, by a side wave, it also really knocked out several people who are now hospitalized in the hospital, i say once again that a 35-year-old man, he is very heavy, is now hospitalized, here... two ruptures next to each other,

one just near the facade, the other in the building, that, which i said was empty, and now they continue to work on the spot, let's say... this is how certain emergency services finish their work, make protocols, car owners who came here in the morning to also see what burned their cars, the truth is a lot cars were parked here not only by hotel guests, but also by local people who simply used it as a parking lot, in addition to the hotel building, which was very badly damaged, residential buildings were damaged, the administrative building was damaged, a car showroom, well, it was actually very large... even at night they said that a detailed examination was needed in this regard, because now various types of missiles and rockets are being fired at the city, but the inspection still confirmed that these were s-300s, the prosecutor's office

also confirmed this. thank you, thank you very much, hanna, for the detailed information, for telling me what is happening at the scene, and what the consequences are as of now. radio svoboda from kharkiv, where the day before, let me remind you, russian forces struck the hotel complex, there are victims, their number as of this minute is 12 people, as our correspondent, one man is difficult. you can subscribe to us on social networks, we are present on various social networks, including telegram, instagram, twitter and other social networks in order to arbitrarily receive verified information, in addition, if you have not yet subscribed to the radio liberty youtube channel, do so in the comments . write what your situation is, if for example you are from kharkiv, did you hear yesterday's blow and are you going down to the shelter. evgeny ivanov, deputy chief of the kharkiv regional military administration, is also at this moment join our broadcast. my greetings to you. i congratulate you. please tell us the latest updated data that you know, whether

the number of victims has increased, we know about 12 people, our correspondent from kharkiv said this in particular. what is their condition, and what can you tell me at this moment? indeed, yesterday at around 10:30 p.m., a strike was carried out on a hotel complex in the city of kharkiv, this is the kyiv district of the city, almost the center, one rocket hit near the building of the complex, one directly into the complex, we have 12 people victims, as of now , two people are in the hospital, one man is in serious condition, 35 years old and a 71-year-old woman of average condition, two people were immediately given help on the spot. eight more people were in the hospital, but fortunately they are not there now, that is, help was provided and there is no threat to life or health. regarding the foreign journalists, according to preliminary information, there were groups of foreign journalists who lived in this hotel .

in this context, what information , all the necessary help was immediately provided to them, they really are two foreign citizens, a turkish citizen, a foreign journalist and... a georgian citizen, and he was directly among those who were given medical assistance . in total , there were about 30 people in the hotel building. well, tell me, please, about the air alarm, we know that in kharkiv the story is much more complicated, because the systems from which the russian forces strike, they arrive very quickly, as was the case yesterday, yesterday there was an air alarm. earlier than the explosion , but in principle, indeed almost always, she either has a very short period to use the air alarm signal, that is, it is less than a minute, as usual, or we have cases when and this, unfortunately, more often, when the explosion itself is carried out earlier than the alarm

, and only then it sounds, and for the last explosions, if the rocket does not fly alone, and it usually does not fly alone, then still people use... and should use this signal, even if heard the first explosion and the alarm was later, this is an advice from us to everyone , and we will insist on this, that is , do not ignore the alarm signal, whenever you do not hear it, and there can be any number of explosions, and even more so the situation in the last week has significantly escalated regarding shelling , and with what you can connect it, this is the first question, and in conclusion, regarding another blow to the hotel complex, what is the situation there now in terms of disassembly. debris in the plan of the study, tell me about it in more detail, in the morning the divisions of the state emergency service are working, respectively the professionals who install there in more detail already constitute the type of weapons that were struck, and all these services, in the morning they work, they worked almost all night, that is

, the rubble will really be sorted out, all the communications that lead along the street and that are suitable will be checked to the hotel, i mean. and heat supply, gas supply, measures were taken and are being taken there regarding the safety of citizens who live nearby, because the problems are quite significant, they are also near the hotel. across from it, and it's an industrial facility, production facility and to the left, to the right, that is , up to 200 m away, we have damage in the form of windows and small, but still, damage to buildings. i thank you for the detailed input, for clarifying the situation, yevhen ivanov, deputy chief of the kharkiv regional military administration , about the consequences of yesterday's attack by russian forces on the hotel complex in the city of kharkiv. today, the conciliation council of the ukrainian parliament has to

determine the fate of the draft law on mobilization, or return its cabinet to its original form. or to recommend that it be brought to the verkhovna rada hall for a vote. the military command and the leadership of the ministry of defense are invited to the conciliation council meeting. the head of the servant of the people faction in the verkhovna rada, davyd arahamia, announced this in the evening. an hour earlier, people's deputy from the european solidarity party oleksiy honcharenko wrote that the faction at its meeting, the servant of the people decided to return the draft law on the mobilization of the government for revision, because it is not possible to vote for it in its current form. the same with with reference to its own sources in the servant of the people faction, hromadske also wrote, however, reacting to apparently honcharenko's post, the head of the faction davyda rahamia wrote that people who have nothing to do with the faction informed about the decision of the faction. earlier the same day, rahamia announced from the rostrum of the verkhovna rada that the government draft law on mobilization was in the first reading. will be considered in the parliament on january 11, i.e. today. they held

a faction meeting, discussed the current situation and the work plan for the coming days. they were surprised to read about the alleged solutions of our faction in the public places of people who have no relation to us, as before, we ask you to trust only official sources. in response to this post, arachami goncharenko drew attention to the fact that he did not refute his earlier statement about the decision to return the draft law for revision. what is important, he did not deny my information that the faction has determined its position, to return it for revision, but i want to highlight separately that again this is a painful issue for society, they want to shift it onto the shoulders of the military, which is simply not serious. consider this one the draft law in the specialized committee started a week ago on january 4, people's deputies of various political forces have many comments on it regarding various norms. in the main scientific and expert department of the verkhovna rada apparatus, they say that the draft law contains provisions that contradict the constitution. human rights commissioner dmytro lubinets also called the draft law unconstitutional,

in particular some of its norms, the parliamentary anti-corruption committee reported that the document contains corruption risks. in addition to the government bill, to the parliament passed four more alternative bills on mobilization, their authors are people's deputies. well, mp maryana bezugla wrote a statement about leaving the servant of the people faction and party. she reported this in her own. on facebook, she explained her decision by the fact that she does not need a weak party and faction in the war, according to beuzugla , they allegedly demanded that she be silent, demand that i be silent, that the national security committee is indifferent to who and what is being done in the committee, against accepting the fact of how society perceives you, you just turn a blind eye to it and move on roll in your bubbles, demand to be sympathetic to the betrayal of zavitnevich, the head of the committee, close your eyes to the problems of the soviets? and the murders of our citizens by the generals, corruption in the sector and you continue to work with opz, etc., you require

me to be silent not only from the outside, but also from the inside. however, she did not specify who exactly it is about, to whom bezugla is addressing, noting that she will continue to support the president, because she remains the majority deputy of the obolon district of kyiv. people's deputies did not attend the parliament session the day before were able to put on the agenda the issue of the dismissal of bezugla from the post of deputy head of the committee on national security, defense and development. during the consideration of this issue, parliamentarians blocked the rostrum, council speaker ruslan stefanchuk closed the session. later, in a comment to the interfax agency of ukraine, stefanchuk explained that the issue of recalling bezuz from the position of deputy head of the national security committee will be brought up for consideration by the council only after the decision of the conciliation council. i will point out that it is necessary to withdraw without a doubt from the post of deputy the chairman of the committee on national security, defense and intelligence, was recommended to the parliament by the members of the committee after a vote on january 5. the last few weeks. maryana bezugla actively criticizes the activities of the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine valery zaluzhny in the public space. in particular, she

accused the head of the fact that he did not provide a plan for 2024 and even demanded his dismissal. in these moments , pavlo kazarin, a journalist, a soldier of the armed forces of ukraine, joins us. but before that, i must note that we have been inviting since yesterday representatives of the servants of the people to our broadcast, in particular, fedir vienislavsky was supposed to be there, but he said that he could not join, because there is no final decision on the draft law yet. at the moment we are trying to contact the servant of the people faction in the parliament so that their representatives explain what is actually happening, what this draft law can be and what actually happened in the context of maryana bezugla, therefore... we publicly invite, if you watch us, join this broadcast. pavlo kazarin is in touch with us. i congratulate you. i congratulate you. mr. pavle, thank you for joining. now everyone is actively discussing the government draft law on mobilization. in addition to the government one, there are four more alternatives, these are those submitted by people's deputies. and in fact, one of the norms on which, as the deputies explained to us , they still cannot agree on, is the terms of demobilization. there are different options, three years,

two years, one and a half years. what term of demobilization do you personally advocate, and perhaps your colleagues, with whom you are on this topic... i advocate a rational term of demobilization, that is, one that is realistic, on the one hand, and on the other hand , we understand that it will not fail the front and will not lead to a breakthrough in some areas of the enemy, because one and a half years and two years, which some deputies propose, this is, of course, especially for me... for to a person who has been enjoying the glory of the armed forces since february 25, 2022, it looks very attractive, but at the same time, i understand that if just now , let's say half a million people leave the army and return to civilian life, then this means that our army is immediately reduced by 500,000 people, which means that there in the brigades and in

combat battalions will have a huge shortage of personnel. and this simply means that now tomorrow there will be an enemy breakthrough in some areas of the front, so i am in favor of some realistic option with the terms of demobilization, that is, what does an attractive 36 months look like, it means that the 24th year in this case becomes a year of large-scale mobilization, in the course of this year, let's say half a million people are collected, sent to study. then they begin to pour into brigades, this communication takes place between novices and experienced fighters, and already after that in in the 25th year, if operational planning allows, people who have served 36 months begin to gradually return to civilian life, it at least looks realistic,

the story of 24 months or 18 months does not look realistic, how? you evaluate the draft law that was submitted by the government, because both in the obbutsman, who protects human rights, and in various parliamentary committees, there are a lot of questions about the norms that the government proposes to make there, some call it unconstitutional, some call it unrealistic , as in the question in particular, regarding of how to influence those men who are currently abroad, how can you evaluate from a military point of view the draft law that was submitted by the government and around which there are so many questions, well , i think that the chairman. the problem will be if the deputies decide to play populism and remove from the bills all the norms that allow us to talk about the appearance of not only gingerbread in the issue of mobilization, but also a whip, because no war, it does not gain popularity over time, in any war, first there are queues at the military checkpoint, then

you have to look for people, and the main problem that i see before... mobilization is, first of all , that military leaders do not have access to up-to-date databases, but they should have, and because of this, there are representatives of the tsc and sp just on the street, there are forced to arrest people because they do not have access to up-to-date databases, and secondly, yes, it is necessary to simply prescribe the responsibility of citizens for not fulfilling their, their constitutional duty, if neglect of mobilization, neglect of passing a medical commission, it seems to me that if the deputies, they will try to play populism and remove from the draft law all the norms that can make it effective, then this will simply

mean that in the 24th year the mobilization will be a failure, if the mobilization will be a failure. ... this will affect the fighting capacity of the ukrainian army and, in particular , will erase any prospects for the mobilization of those who have been there in the army for more than two years. i understand correctly, you are now talking about the fact that the actual approach to the mobilization process should be, let's call it in a word, tougher, and in particular, this bill should include a punishment for, for example, evading mobilization, and these should be different approaches, and definitely, definitely, eh, tell me more please, oh... you already mentioned tsk, how do you generally assess communication between the state, and when i talk about the state, i mean the bodies that are responsible for the processes of mobilization in the country and conscripts, to what extent is this process as of... now qualitative? well, let's put it this way, our tsc and sp are generally like that institutions that have changed very little since

soviet times. it is still such a paper kingdom. i remember we were in bakhmut, in the spring of this year, and they called me from the kyiv military headquarters and invited me to e-e and invited me to compare data. and i said yes, in principle. i don't mind, i'm just more likely to be released by the battalion commander, but jokes are jokes, and the problem is that until now this system definitely needs to be changed, to make it technological, to make it, to digitize it and make the bandwidth much higher, because the history about queues near the military commissars, about them'. efficiency about low bandwidth, well, this is such an annoying thing, so it should definitely

be modernized, regarding information history, i don’t think that the counterparty in the information plane should be tsc and sp, i think that rather some other state level should to be a counterparty in this. information communication between potential future military personnel and the state, i am not sure what the employees of the state central committee and sp should do. i have one more question for you, as you are a military man, is it even worth when they talk about the process of mobilization , should it be applied in the public sphere, somehow refer to this concept in motivated and unmotivated men, or should this concept be abandoned altogether, because very often they assume that it will happen... that they will be taken to the front, as it is now they do , for example, the tsk, when it is blamed on them by ukrainian citizens, unmotivated people, i.e. those who were not ready, for example, to prepare, fight, and so on, this is a concept in general

, it should somehow function in the public sphere, i agree with you, that's exactly what it is a very redundant term, well, first of all, let's be honest, the most motivated are already in the army, those who wanted to join the army, they have already found an opportunity to join the army. secondly, i have more than once seen with my own eyes that motivation is not a constant, it can end, and the fighters, there is a fighter who was the chief sergeant of the air defense, and in general such a hacker, there after some time he was transferred to the engineering battalion, because just a guy burned out, guys burn out, and a motivated person, sooner or later. begins to serve further on discipline, not on motivation, and you can’t win the war with volunteers alone, a person who may not

see being in the army at first, but went through training, got into a harmonious team, she just drags herself in the morning, that’s why i’m very annoying all this talk that you are trying to send unmotivated people into the army, motivation, it comes, it... ah, sooner or later it ends in the same way, and it seems to me that all this talk that an unmotivated lu with unmotivated person only a bad soldier can come out, they harm all these conversations, and in conclusion there will be one more question, we have already mentioned about tcc and sp in particular, and you said that you were called when you were already in military positions, you are actually '. what kind of service of summonses , because we are talking about three types, which in particular are in this government draft law and in the deputies' draft, it is personal service, it is service via e-mail and through the electronic office,

which you are more inclined to, how this document should be served, i do not know , i to you i will say frankly, i did not think, here it is simply a question of whether a bandage, which as... which a person received via e-mail, can be considered delivered, well, that is, can, or will the person not later challenge this option of issuing summonses? frankly speaking, i didn't think about this norm, i'm actually interested to see in which version this government mobilization bill will survive the first reading, in which version it will pass the second reading, i'm more about realistic here, but i'm in favor of realism. norms for those norms that will not contradict constitutional norms, but they will still allow to inform the people in whom

the state is interested, that... it is interested in them, let's say, i thank you, thank you for turning on, for explaining your position as a military officer , let me remind you, pavlo kazarin, journalist, serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine, a guest of our broadcast, we were interested in the opinion of the military regarding those draft laws on mobilization that are being considered in the ukrainian parliament, in particular the government one, which caused the most discussions. well, it must be said that today, the conciliation council will meet, at which representatives of all political forces should be present, this is a procedural moment, in fact, after which a decision will be made on whether certain bills will be brought to the parliament for a vote. davyd arkhami, head of the servant of the people faction in the ukrainian parliament, previously wrote in his telegram that the actual decision and fate of the bill on mobilization will be made after the conciliatory council meets. i will remind you that we are trying to contact representatives of the servant of the people faction, for to ask them questions about what was decided yesterday at the faction meeting,

after all. the media, citing their own faction sources and opposition political forces, asked about the fact that there were calls from deputies of the pro-government faction to return this bill to the government for finalization. in these minutes, vadim fesenko, a political scientist, joins our broadcast, we thank you for being able to find the time to join and welcome you to our broadcast. i congratulate you. rather, the question will concern you about what is happening in the faction. servant of the people, this is actually also an important point, the statement of maryana bezugla, which she published on facebook, about what will come out of the faction from the party, how do you assess it, to what extent, in general, from your point of view, is there or is there no unity in the faction of the servant today people in the ukrainian parliament, look, there has been no complete unity there for a long time, and i can tell you that there has never been complete unity in any large influential party. in

ukraine, there was no complete unity in poroshenko's party, although, well, there, let's say, the situation was different, but there was an internal the opposition was also in the faction, and then part of the people there actually left, or they were expelled, yes , tymoshenko had a similar situation, when she had a large faction and a large party, the party of regions was a joint-stock company in which different groups competed with each other and even fought there at that time. lvovychkin and shufrich, well, there was enmity there between lvovchkin and klyuev and so on, that is, these are simply historical examples, and since the servant of the people faction of the party as such does not exist, then de facto, legally it exists, de facto it does not exist, its and not created in essence, but the faction was recruited in a hurry, there are very different people ideologically, there are such poles, there

are people in the faction almost. with nationalist views, and a large group of deputies with pro-european views, and there is a small group of people with almost pro-russian views, or there was a shevchenko deputy with such, let's say, who was a fan of lukashenka, that's why they are very different people, and that's why there is unity there there was no, and here is the situation with dubinsky, who is now in prison, going to trial already. in the near future, also an indicative story, that is random, but here a question arises simply because earlier, when the ukrainian parliament was re-elected after the victory of president zelenskyi, it was said that the majority would make all decisions, when it constantly leaves the faction, this is not the case, look, it is possible right away, this is essential, which must be understood , monomajority, like any parliamentary coalition of the majority, is needed to create a government, and of course, as

a political decision-making tool, but we have always never made decisions only by the votes of the majority or mono coalition the majority, the mechanism of the situational majority always worked first of all, once , let's say, many decisions were made only by the votes of the majority, especially in peacetime, during the war, well, all this went into the background altogether. now it is necessary to distinguish the legal mechanism of my majorities, as long as they have 226 votes, there is no sense or need, legal need to create a new coalition of the majority, and the political system works in the current regime, but de facto decision-making was very often necessary even before the russian invasion and after russian invasions needed extra votes so...