in 2027 in the amount of 1 billion 200 million euros, the president of estonia announced this, and today, zelenskyi stated that it is necessary to put pressure on the leaders of the european union at a meeting with the prime minister of estonia, kaya kallas, and put pressure on those who who promised ukraine 1 million artillery shells. zelensky noted that the ukrainian army has not yet received a package of promised aid, that today estonia can politically promote this initiative, let's listen to what zelensky said. serious leaders, if their word is worth something, and i am sure of it, then it is necessary to fulfill it decisions that they made themselves, and i would really like to see contracts, because sometimes, yes, we are used to it, we are in this war, and we know that deadlines... sometimes let our military

down deadlines, but if we have contracts in front of our eyes, this already gives hope that even with deadlines, delays, but postponements and delays, but nevertheless, it will come to the battlefield. roman, why do the baltic countries understand faster, well, although i understand the answer, they understand threats from russia faster, because... at one time, the soviet union entered the baltic countries in the late 1930s, and we know this whole story. but, other countries that are part of the north atlantic alliance are not in a hurry, as you say, with a decision regarding long-range missiles that could solve the issue of military facilities, airfields, military logistics on the territory of the russian federation, they still hope that russia where... will he stop there at the border with poland,

having tested his weapons there in the same baltic countries or in moldova already after ukraine? well, you see, it is so complicated a great geopolitical solitaire and big players, they are trying to twist their interest here precisely from the point of view of geopolitics, no matter what, well, as far as i am concerned, i will not threaten nato states. there are, including the baltic countries, well, this is a fact, the russians might want to seize these states, return them to their sphere of influence, but they simply do not have the opportunity, and when you mentioned the amount of money that the estonian government is trying to spend in support of ukraine, so that we understand, the population of estonia is less than population of kyiv. and this is more than 1

billion euros, well, this is a serious thing , this is serious help, because estonia, well , it is really a small country, they invest very , very coolly, so as for ammunition, there is such an interesting thing here, well, first of all , there is the statement of the eu commissioner on the issue of the internal market and services, there is such a thing... european official thierry pretton, he says, in principle, that by march, and they promised to deliver 1 million 155-caliber ammunition by march, that they , well, they can almost cope with this task, and again, that's all goes into the plane of decision-making, the problem is not, in my opinion, not in weapons. let

's just talk one more time, nato has everything, there we somehow all focused on the 155 caliber, which really became possible to some extent scarce, but there are other means of impression, there are enough of them, and we need to talk about it, so i it seems that at the moment we are just at such a stage of uncertainty, europe is thinking, thinking about what will happen in the states, and they are watching when they will decide there from... that is , the hope that everything will be just the way we want necessary, she is absolutely alive, and everything actually comes to that, the only question is that there the people are just conducting political debates, and we have a war here with the fact that dozens of ukrainian citizens who die every day in this war, both military and not only the military, so it seems, again, if we measure by the military. potentials, we don't have everything, we

don't have the worst allies in the world on the whole planet, on the contrary, the most powerful block, but this is the situation, you see, there the americans have been approving money for... it seems since october, and everyone says, yes, yes, this is very important, and so on, and so on, but against this background, uh , what is happening, in the month of october comrade kim did not behave like this, he did not threaten war so much that to the united states itself, south korea, and the states are the guarantor of security and have their army in south korea, that is, the more ot... the western world is delaying the adoption of a decision, in fact , which the military has long calculated, and this is a military-technical decision, it is , and it is not necessary to say that it is only a matter of missiles, it is possible, i don’t know, to send f-16 pilots

leave, they will gladly go, and we will even grant them citizenship, i think that zelensky will gladly sign the relevant decrees. that is, there are options, and it is necessary to work with this, work, explain, i think , in fact, this visit to the baltic states, it is very useful precisely because estonia, latvia, and lithuania, after all, they sitting at this nato table, they may not be the most influential in terms of the country's military potential, but they have the ability to convey our position, and this should be appreciated in other words. you have to work, don't whine and don't to lower your hands, because whoever lowers their hands, that's why their head is cut off, this applies to all citizens of ukraine. roman, this indecision that you are talking about, the world, the united states of america and the members of the north atlantic

alliance, like it, what affects the kimchi, and we see how it affects, it is absolutely obvious how it affects putin, that is , does it mean that putin is not seriously receiving weapons from the north atlantic alliance that may be in ukraine, that he believes that he can continue to crush ukraine, that he can continue to kill ukrainians and go further to the western border, and from there take some positions regarding the negotiations with nato and threaten them already to the western border of ukraine and to some point of negotiation. don't come, well, serhiy, you are talking for the second time about the fact that they will reach the western border, go to the border with nato, they will not go, they will not go, because ukrainians live here, this is a ukrainian state, we are armed , we have the question of why,

the question is that we don't have enough weapons in order to throw them out of the territory of ukraine , to hold these borders, if we start there a little more ourselves, well somehow... plan a little, manage the situation, use the resources we have, make the fortifications there correct, we can, we will keep these lines, they will not get anywhere, then it is simply a question of what this war is about, so you know, i do not think that anyone, by the way, in russia, i do not feel such sentiments that they have there is an opportunity to get somewhere there, they don't have the opportunity, they don't have the strength, and in fact they don't have the desire, here, but with about vladimir putin, well, he, well, he objectively plays soldiers , he does not care how many people die, he does not count russians, ukrainians, and you know, my colleague, with whom we

worked for many years in moscow, he is a german journalist , he called me last night, he is now in kharkov and says that this is what happened to me today, ba... to the hotel, which is 700 m from mine. here, and with emotions, he says that what a german and a ukrainian well, then death to the russian, which means that until the moment until this one is gone guarantees that they will fly to belgorod, rostov and other cities, they will beat kharkov for many years and will laugh at us, you understand, and it is necessary to inform the military-industrial... complex of ukraine that there must be an answer, an answer , because they will not understand otherwise, they are not in danger, well, at the end of the year they killed 20 or so people with their air defenses, they killed their own children in belgorod, they kill more of ours and adult children, and this does not change anything,

they have to be afraid, they must be in pain, this is the only way to solve this problem, therefore i proceed from the fact that... ukraine, it will not go anywhere, the question is in the borders and in the price of how to stop them. this price should be minimized for us, for them, on the contrary. thank you. thank you, roman, for your work and for your inclusion on the espresso tv channel. we continue to work, and friends, we are working live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those watching us out there right now, please be sure to like this video, subscribe to our youtube and facebook pages, and vote on our poll. today we ask you about whether you trust the leadership of the verkhovna rada. ukraine, yes, no, everything is quite simple in youtube, you choose two options, yes or no, uh,

write your comment about what you think under this video, we are interested to know your opinion. if you watch us on tv, please pick up your smartphone and vote. if you trust the lower leadership of the verkhovna rada 0800-211-381, no, 0800 211 382. all calls to these numbers are free, call. it is important for us to know your opinion next, we will be in touch with military expert mykhailo samus. mr. mykhailo, i congratulate you and thank you for being with us today. i congratulate you. let's start with the situation on our eastern border with the kharkiv region, because british and american analysts say that russia is going to go on the offensive there. today there was a message that ... the offensive actions of the enemy in the northern direction may resume, this was announced by

the commander of the ground forces oleksandr syrskyi, according to syrskyi, for this the enemy is moving storm units and forming assault companies, syrskyi made his post public after meeting with defense minister rustem umyerov and commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine valery zaluzhny in the kupyansk direction. what can you say about the current situation on the fronts of ukraine, because there is a lot of talk about how this situation can change, what you see now, the fact is that some publications in the western press have created such an illusion that indeed, the russians seem to be preparing for some major offensive, especially when journalists are involved. confuse the direction of kharkiv and the direction of kupyan, then it turns out that

the reports begin to grow like a snowball that the russians are trying to advance on kharkiv and tomorrow, it seems, they will be pulling their columns right in the direction of the city of millionaire. in fact, at the moment , the group that is near kharkov on the russian side, they are more worried about the security of belgorod, and that is why they are creating a defense there. groups, that is, even if there is any movement of troops and a concentration of troops there, then more groups of a defensive nature are still forming there and they can be understood, because really, why not take ukraine now, for example, belgorod, if such a conversation has already started, but from the point from the point of view that the russians can become more active in the kupyansk direction, in avdiivsk, in the baku region , and even in the south, this is partly due to

the political development of the situation, since after the beginning of october, when they became more active, they actually started their called a big offensive, and now we are already almost in the middle of january 24th, the achievements in them are small, that is, look at the map, the achievements are minimal, the losses are huge, and soon the elections, the so-called elections of putin and... so something must be demonstrated, obviously , that this time from today until march, when these elections or so-called elections will be held, the russians will throw everything they have in order to show at least some results, that is, there will be attempts both in the kupyan direction and in the siversky, and on bakhmutsky and of course on avdiivsky, because they consider avdiivka to be the easiest, let's say, from the point of view of achieving some visible result and demonstrating their own. achievements on the front, so i think that now the russians will really try to break through in all directions, i

wouldn’t call it a big offensive, because there is absolutely no strategy in this offensive, they are just trying to test the ukrainian defense in different directions and yet to achieve at least some tactical successes, which will be presented in the information space as something so big, on which strategic or even. operational results, i think, they do not calculate by themselves. well, that is, this whole story, which began in the 22nd year, that we will go to the administrative borders of luhansk and donetsk regions. just got bogged down somewhere under the audio board, got bogged down, including at the hottest points that are currently there, that is, no matter how much they want to, they can't do it now and there are objective reasons for this, and people, and resources and the fact that they are starting to use missiles, ballistic

north korea's missiles indicate that they obviously have... serious problems with the military-industrial complex, because today medvedev spoke about the fact that we tested absolutely all types of weapons in ukraine, only nuclear weapons remained, but considering the here are the latest reports about north korea, about ballistic missiles, does russia lack these missiles, or is north korea just trying to use ukraine now as a training ground to shoot down these missiles. in order to fight there with south korea or japan or others countries? well, in fact, of course, north korea is not the leader of this process, it is used here as one of the elements, i call it the military-industrial alliance of the axis of evil, that is, this alliance already obviously includes russia, iran, north korea, and a system

player here is china, which uses the same, of course covertly. of course , he is in the shadows, but look at the scheme: the russians pay in yuan in north korea, because there are a lot of yuan in russia now, i will remind you that 90% of the oil sold by russia now is india and china, and it is obvious that everything happens in chinese and it is not in dollars, that is, russia has a lot of rupees and a lot of yuan, but they invest yuan in north korea, north korea can use this money to purchase raw materials, or... ammunition and missiles in china, and these components they can also be raw materials, of course, this is not a military purpose, it can be called, but simply as civilian products, china sells all this calmly, north korea is turning into a kind of shop, where projects that could be implemented in russia, but in not enough, workers, engineers, industrial

capacities, north korea has all this, and with certain investments... and also provided with components and raw materials, they can now become such a workshop that will produce ammunition and missiles for russia, and these missile technologies , they are transferred from russia to north korea, of course they can turn into a global problem, because north korea can release these missiles not only for russia, but also for its own use, including for a threat, of course, to south korea, actually for a change balance on... the korean peninsula and including for the threat to the united states, this is already in the interests of china, of course it is done, because china, we know china's strategic goal is to reduce the influence, to reduce the influence of the united states, including in the east asia, and in principle globally, and therefore the emergence of any points of tension, especially a conflict, for example, on the korean

peninsula, will be in the interests of china and absolutely not in the interests of the united states, and therefore the misunderstanding looks very strange. on it is a pity that the political forces in the united states , which are currently engaged in some kind of internal election games, look more at the mexican border than at the fact that a military-industrial alliance is being created alongside them, the axis of evil, and direct military threats, in that including direct to the united states, because north korea has recently tested an intercontinental ballistic missile, which means that russia has transferred these technologies to it. due to the corresponding investments of the russians, these missiles can fly, eventually and po the united states itself, which, in principle , is all russia needs. three committees of the house of representatives of the congress of the united states of america, led by republicans , released a proposed plan for victory in ukraine, in which they criticized president biden for insufficient aid to ukraine and

proposed an action plan, including providing ukraine with the necessary weapons as soon as possible. strengthening of sanctions against putin and his allies, transfer of frozen assets of the russian federation to ukraine. mr. mykhailo, why are our western partners delaying the by providing ukraine with those weapons that, in principle , could not just stop the russian federation, but push back the troops of the russian federation from the territory of ukraine and break the logistics that are on the territory of the russian federation, the military airfields that are located there. at the flight distance of a good cruise missile and in general what they are afraid of, that is, they are afraid of the third world war , well... it is already in separate components , this third world war is emerging in ukraine, in the middle east, the houthis, north korea, that is, in fact, what took place in

in the 1930s in europe, in japan, and in italy, well , i mean germany, italy, japan, this triangle is now also the same triangle, but this triangle can still be suffocated there in a hurry, but... for now, our western partners are restraining themselves and trying to fight russia with the hands of ukrainians, that is , not even with their weapons, but with the hands of ukrainians, but in the literal sense of the word, their analysts do not calculate the next steps, their politicians do not see how it will end, their politicians do not know history, which was 100 years ago, why is this happening, well really absolutely probably, this is what i just said about east asia and the fact that the formation of this axis of global evil is taking place, the impression is that really western

politicians, western analysts do not see the picture of the world and consider each puzzle separately, in fact, they form a single picture, and it is clear that russia's aggression against ukraine is not just some kind of conflict, it is not just a war, it is a reflection of this trend in world politics, geopolitics. when really the western bloc is not worth it now that they are somehow going to mobilize their defense industry or change their military policy, but we must actually start fighting against this axis of evil, and here we have a problem, because if you look at the official statements of the biden administration, they basically consisted of therefore, i do not mean there in relation to support. ukraine, and with regard to, for example, russia, the main essence of these statements is that we do not want a direct conflict between the united states and russia, it is very difficult to understand these statements, the only

the explanation is that part, a large part of the elite of the administration, or part of the biden administration, they still live in the cold war world, they still have this cold war gentlemen's club matrix in their heads, when the soviet union and the united states, they played by some rules , they did not allow direct clashes there, indeed, and there was no direct war between the united states and russia, and this is the soviet union, sorry, and this was the main, if that was the value base of this geopolitics in general, now it is completely different, they did not understand that or refuse to understand that russia is not the soviet union, they do not play by the rules, they look at it in a completely different way and can calmly carry out and provoke heated conflicts in europe, they... can attack nato countries , expecting that nato will not respond, because , including the nato secretary general, he constantly says that the main task is to prevent a direct confrontation between nato and russia, and that is why

our western partners really fall into this trap when they understand , if now to ukraine, for example, transfer a thousand atakams at once, and god forbid tomahawks, which have a range there of 2,500 km, which, in principle , will simply bring us to parity with russia, because tomahawks are the same... same calibers, it’s not something terrible there weapons, because when you say tomahawk to some western expert or politician, his hair just stands on end, i say, listen, well, in russia, russia has already used hundreds of calibers against us, nothing terrible happened, so let's use a few hundred tomahawks against russia , let's see how it will be, and therefore in fact it's really a problem, the problem is mental, the problem is really just understanding that russia is... the soviet union, maybe it needs some kind of transformation of the elites both in the united states and in europe, because, well, for example, in germany, i'm glad

the local political elites, who really made such a quantum leap in their understanding of the fact that this is russia, this is not the soviet union, this is not a country with which you can talk about anything at all, this is a country that must be defeated, yes, in any case , the prevailing political mood in germany, which a few years ago could not even think about it in german politics, that is, in principle, maybe now during the election campaign in the united states, these metamorphoses will take place and understanding will take place, or is it necessary, after all, pel harbor , here it is actually possible for american politics to be arranged in this way until there is pearl harbor, there will be no reaction and entry, in reality the entry of the united states into the war, unfortunately, they cannot simply go back. what was done several decades ago correct conclusions that it is necessary to intervene earlier before any catastrophes or tragedies of a global scale occur. but, mr.

mykhailo. but the european countries and the new members of the north atlantic alliance , the baltic countries, understand exactly what russia is and know what the boot of a soviet soldier is, and finland knows it, and other countries, as well as poland, but spain, portugal, maybe they don't this is how this entire story unfolding on the ground is perceived now. of the ukrainian state, do they also need it? the repetition of the 39th year there, the redistribution of europe and new spheres of influence, or still in the 24th year, despite everything, the north atlantic alliance will make the right accents and the right choices, i mean from the point of view of strengthening the power of ukraine and the perception of ukraine as of the eastern

outpost of the north atlantic alliance, because president zelenskyy correctly said today, while in estonia, that our armed forces of ukraine are powerful, they fight with the weapons of the north atlantic alliance, they are the most trained, they are the resources of the north atlantic alliance, which deter the russians, or could it happen that nato... will take such actions or make such decisions that will allow us to win in the short term? well, i have no illusions about nato, that is, in fact , the alliance is still a structure that deals with the defense of its members, that is , the members of this organization, they count on joint defense, and this is the main essence

of the alliance, they are very, i mean... here the organization itself is very, very skeptical of any functions that go beyond that of this fifth article, well, that is, for example , to restore order outside nato, or to take responsibility for the development of the situation in some neighboring region, for example, the best example in this regard is the black sea, as much as we did not talk with the united states separately, but also nato as an organization, please take more part in the development. the situation in the black sea, take responsibility for the development of the situation in this small sea, but which is now completely under the control of russia, we are spoke immediately after the occupation and annexation of crimea, we said that with crimea they occupied and annexed not only crimea, but also half of the black sea, in fact, and they establish their force rules there, completely ignoring maritime international law and international law in general, which made nato, in principle , nato has expressed deep concerns, but

despite the fact that there are basically three nato countries in the black sea, there have been no concrete efforts that would, for example, practically strengthen nato's presence in the black sea, for example, to create a black sea fleet nato, creating a permanent command in constanta is the same, there is no nato command in the black sea and so on, the same is the case in other regions, so nato, in principle , still considers any external threat as a challenge to the alliance, and that's why i.. to be honest, nato is very skeptical. thank you, thank you, mr. mykhailo, it was mykhailo samus, a military expert. friends, we are live and also conducting polls. we are asking you whether you trust the leadership of the verkhovna rada. let's see what the survey results are on tv? 9% yes, 91 - no, on youtube 6% yes, 94%, no. in 15 minutes we return to the studio after the bbc news. we will have yaroslav

zheliznyak. maria ionova, elizaveta esko. do not switch, be with us. mobilization in ukraine, when and how, we tell you everything you need to know. this is bbc ukraine. olga polomaryuk is in the studio. the verkhovna rada passed a draft law on new mobilization rules. now the government has to change the most scandalous regulations and... bring the document to the parliament, when it can happen, how the rules will change mobilization and how the postponement of such decisions will affect the situation at the front. wrap and finalize. after two weeks of discussions and disputes, the scandalous bill on mobilization was decided not to be put to

a vote in the verkhovna rada. i'm glad, because there are still controversial issues.