but how she brought us to our home. andriy seichuk and i will return at 10:10. well, next will be our colleagues from the radio liberty project svoboda ranok. let's observe a moment of silence in memory of the ukrainian military and civilian citizens of ukraine who died in the war started by russia.

hello everyone, this is svoboda ranok, my name is kateryna nekrecha, and in this morning's stream we talk about such topics. will the war end in 2024, zelenskyi was asked during the authorities' visit. he insisted on not only military, but also political support. meanwhile, the us they are waiting for a clear plan to fight the russian federation from ukraine, and they will ask zelensky about it next week in davos, bloomberg writes, whether ukraine has this plan and what secret weapon the armed forces of ukraine use to destroy more than 20 rotorcraft per day, let's talk further. the cabinet of ministers withdrew the draft law on mobilization, which the deputies returned to the government for revision, but defense minister umirov says that it is already ready... a new text that will be submitted for

consideration. he says that the issue of mobilization is being politicized and stalled. how will the new text of the bill differ from the previous one, and what changes await ukraine in matters of mobilization and demobilization in the end? siskadovskaya lyuba from kolomyia, jokes about rich widows and crimean traitors. recently, ukrainian entertainment projects have been involved in scandals related to inappropriate jokes. how to joke during the war or appropriate humor about the occupied. cities, death and the military in general, let's talk about it with an official and a humorist, and you write your attitude to it in the comments. i will also remind you that in the comments you can ask questions to our speakers, our morning show, and write what topics you think are important this morning. let's start with the situation at the front. russian troops are trying to block kupyansk and create conditions for an offensive on...

yar in the donetsk region west of bakhmut. this was announced by the commander of the ground forces of the ukrainian armed forces oleksandr syrskyi. according to him, the russian army is making every effort to reach the border of the siverskyi donets-donbass canal. according to analysts of the deepstate portal, the russian army is attacking bohdanivka from the northern flank. on the southern flank bakhmut, russian troops are trying to restore lost positions in the area of ​​klishchiivka and kurdyumivka. the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine notes that the ukrainian forces fought back. russian attack in the area of ​​klishchiivka. the russian ministry of defense, in turn, reports on the defeat of the forces of the armed forces of ukraine in the area of ​​andriivka and klishchiivka. the ukrainian military, who are currently holding positions near bakhmut, say that the winter weather makes it easier for them to conduct military operations. in this weather, like now, it's frosty outside, but there is no precipitation, that is, the bird flies away. she is everything

you see, no rain or wind prevents her, and in such weather it is much easier to work than in rain or snow or fog, priority is given to armored vehicles, densely, armored vehicles, lightly armored vehicles of the enemy, accumulation of manpower, points of fire, destruction of the enemy's fire equipment, generally quiet for a few days, and then there is such a day that... in general, they just shoot everywhere and a lot. volodymyr fityo, lieutenant colonel, head of the public relations service of the ground forces command, joined our broadcast. armed forces of ukraine. congratulations, volodymyr, thank you for joining. good morning, glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes, i want to ask you about the situation in your direction, about the fact that the russian troops want to create conditions for an offensive at the time of yar in the donetsk region west of bakhmut, said general sirskyi.

t situation in the direction in general, yes, of course , this direction, the bakhmut direction, remains one of the most important for the enemy in the strip of responsibility, this... last day , our defenders repelled one attack there near klishkeivka, there the enemy used nine kamikaze drones on ukrainian positions and fired 212 artillery and mortar rounds of various calibers. nevertheless, our defenders managed to eliminate 118 anti-aircraft gunners and destroy six units of military equipment, including bmp. we see that the enemy did not give up his intentions to advance on the ivars, he is pulling up his forces... there are representatives of various military formations among them. general-combatant oleksandr syrskyi already stated on his telegram channel about the composition of those forces, that was and those from the pacific composition, regular

units, as well as the volunteer corps, which are trying to press in this direction and find weak points in our defense, at the moment... the enemy has no success, a large number of drones are used, yesterday a small number of drones were used in communication due to unfavorable weather conditions, as well as the number of kamikaze drones in this direction, it varies from around 25 to 40 units, this is only in one day. volodymyr, the weather, i understand, is changeable, because in such a plot to the small one that we showed before your inclusion, the military said that those who... have positions near bakhmut, said that the weather there at the time of filming was such that it allowed to work much easier than in the rain, snow or fog, how important is this moment, which affects the combat capability of the ukrainian forces, and the russian ones, you know, thanks to the weather,

we still do, it still hurts the ukrainian armed forces more than the russians, our main.. task so that they would not have the desire to fight on ours territory in general, nevertheless, during such weather, kemikaza drones are used less, aviation is used less, and in such weather, the enemy does not see the situation from drones, that is , it is easier for our defenders to carry out such tactical actions, well, but then again, it is also easier for the enemy do, but our defenders the weather is still on our side. attention is drawn to the kupinsky direction, we understand that due to reports in the western media, you have already stated that kharkiv residents should not worry about a possible offensive of russian forces in this direction, however , do the armed forces currently record the activation of russian forces in this direction, what is the situation, you

know, the situation there is such that at the beginning of october, the enemy began active actions in this direction, and we repeatedly said this on the air. and they said that the enemy was attacking in this direction, that his goal was clearly to capture synkivka, to proceed to the offensive on kupyansk, and this somehow went unnoticed on the airwaves, and when they wrote by telegraph that an offensive on kharkiv was being prepared there, everyone for some reason they immediately woke up and oh-oh, we have a war in ukraine, so the russians want to seize kharkiv, and poltava, and kyiv, and all of ukraine, it is clear, these are their statements, these are... their intentions, here, but in this direction we are not observing any such serious changes, so here is a group that is trying to attack in the kupinsky direction, only in the past day two attacks were repulsed in this direction, the enemy is near synkivka, so

the enemy is trying to achieve something there, but since the beginning of october some important successes on there is no given direction, therefore we control the numerical composition of the military group. russian occupiers in the kupinsky direction , we see their number on the northern border, not far from kharkiv oblast, in belohorod oblast, and i have the impression that, after all, the russians should think about how to create a buffer zone in our territory, their statements there were ignored, but let them think better so that we sometimes do not create a buffer zone and rename bilhorod to bilhorod, ugh, volodymyr, but i will note. about the western media, of course, it is very loud is spreading, but they just mentioned a specific date, the date, it is the middle of january, so actually it was the same way, how can you describe the situation in the lemano-kupin direction, how much equipment of the russian military forces is concentrated there, do

you know well, over the last few weeks, they have been noticeably increasing their manpower and equipment there, no such drastic... there is no increase in these directions, well, look, only in the kupinsky teleman direction, yesterday the enemy carried out offensive actions, two on kupinsky, six on lymansky, that is, there was such a definite... period on the lamansky direction, when there was a lull, the enemy regrouped, the enemy gathered forces, and accordingly began its offensive operations again, i emphasize, the enemy began offensive operations at the beginning of october, and we we knew about them, we prepared for them, strengthened ourselves, and this was not a surprise for us, well, accordingly , the russian occupiers do not have any important results, therefore, in principle, we should trust official sources of information. which serve the current situation on the front line and not

to be drawn to loud headlines, and there are 3 days left before the russian offensive, which was planned for january 15, let's wait, well, here is also an important point, as far as you note, it cannot be a surprise for the ukrainian military, and not will the ukrainian military learn about the plans of the russian forces from the western media? well, of course, look, now the war is happening online, so... then this swarm of drones, which is in the air, and now to conduct some kind of preparation for offensive actions, it is necessary to form the technique to form trained people , trained people, the russian occupiers already have such an extremely large number of military personnel in ukraine along the entire front line, and for an offensive, for example, there on kharkiv, from the north it will be necessary to form some kind of shock fist, to carry out such measures unnoticed by our intelligence, by various technical... intelligence means, it is of course very difficult, let's call it that, not impossible, but very difficult, because we understand that we are not fighting

there with some bums or something else, that's the way it is , this a strong army, it is a well-equipped army, but they should not be overestimated either, we understand their strengths, we understand their weaknesses, and at the moment the people of kharkiv should pay attention only to the air alarms, we see that there are rocket attacks on the city , on civilian objects, and recently arrived... to the hotel where your colleagues lived, but foreign journalists, they could see with their own eyes and convey to their countries, where they came from, how russia is at war with the civilian population. thank you, volodymyr participated and answered these important questions, volodymyr fityo, lieutenant colonel, head of the public relations service at the command of the ground forces of the armed forces of ukraine. well, globally, will the war end in 2024 and when can it even be? and it depends on many factors, as ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyi said during his visit to latvia

at a joint press conference with the latvian president. zelenskyi says that in addition to financial and security support , political assistance is also necessary. so that it doesn't happen ukrainian strength was tired, for this, this strength and morale must be maintained, and this is very important, it is supported not only by weapons, not only by finances, it is also supported by political forces, and therefore the end of this war, the restoration of our territories, a just peace, all this depends on the unity of us all. commenting on political support, zelenskyi mentioned the dialogue regarding ukraine's accession to the european union, saying that ukraine has given a lot of effort to obtain the status of a candidate for eu accession, but should focus only on the field battle and the liberation of the occupied territories. the president believes that ukraine protects everyone and at the same time is grateful for any support and help. while zelensky is on a tour

of the baltic states in the usa, a clearer plan to fight against russia is expected from him, according to bloomberg, citing its own sources. american partners, they say, do not want to publicly discuss this issue with zelensky at the international economic forum in davos next week. the negotiator for the us should be biden's national security adviser, jake sullivan. bloomberg journalists also write that they are worried in washington. disagreements between zelensky and general zaluzhny, which are slowing down the formation of a new war strategy. bloomberg writes that, they say, the ukrainian military is now developing a plan for the next year, for this year, the 24th, in the us they want to determine how best to direct their support so that ukraine can defend itself. the partners say that developing a clear military strategy to defend current positions and further break through russian lines is critical. despite this, bloomberg also draws attention to... the free supply of means, in particular , long-range missiles and western fighter jets, as well as the fact that

some allied states do not fulfill their obligations to provide weapons and artillery ammunition, this, as the journalists write, hinders kyiv's efforts to achieve progress at the front, the situation at the front and global challenges, we continue to talk with petro chernyk, military expert, colonel of the armed forces of ukraine, i congratulate you, thank you for joining, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, answering the question, will it end... war in 2024, zelensky said that it depends on ukrainian stability and morale, which must be supported not only with weapons and money, but also politically. but you, as a military expert, what... to note, which factors are crucial for the end of the war? this phase of the war only ends when we get a large enough number of really serious weapons that i put into understanding really serious weapons? this is a large amount of aviation, 61 machines are very good f-16s, which are declared to us, but we we need at least four aviation regiments, well

at least three, one aviation control is 40 machines, so we take and multiply 180, 200, 20 machines with the entire missile-bomb load, and the second category of weapons that we really need is a large number of long-range missiles, primarily mgm140 atakams. of course, the 10-20 missiles that the allies gave us are very good, but they do not solve the most important issue of destroying their long-range logistics. it is necessary to destroy the railway and echelons, which carry everything necessary for the front. if a soldier is in a trench there will be no cartridges, no ammunition for artillery, there will be no banal food, water, warm clothes and medicines, he is exhausted and we are beating him like a hunting fish, and here there is a certain political component to which i cannot give an answer. peter, according to reports from bloomberg, the usa expects a clear plan from ukraine to fight the russian federation and will ask zelensky about this plan more clearly next week in davos, and you say that

it is the weapons themselves, their volumes and that what is this weapon, and what should it be? in such a plan, what the usa probably expects from ukraine how detailed it should be, well, what should it really contain? i am very biased , i will not answer in the context of how the question is formulated, because at the start, at the start i have a deep familiarity with absolutely all media platforms of the western world, i have become convinced in more than one and a half years of expert activity that there is a very skillful, very intelligent , our adversary is acting very carefully, are they useful and... idiots, those media sites, or are they just practicing their money is not so important, i will give a specific example, very specific, for example, last year on october 7, hamas beat israel and on all important platforms bloomberg, politicians , reuters, new york times, washington post and the like, well, no, well, it was not site, wherever they say, ukrainians will be given 30% less

shells, a representative of the pentagon comes out and says, literally, the people are good, nothing like that will happen, israel. 80% self-sufficient, they only need iron dome missiles and drones, and intelligence equipment, projectiles have nothing to do with this, we ukrainians , unfortunately, have been burning this topic for a month, which seems to be exactly what should happen, so when we have such information or the same jake salevan declares it, then i will to comment, for the moment there is nothing else but what do you think... it looks like another enemy attack, that the americans again do not know what they want from us, and the ukrainians do not know what they should give them, and without a relative notification about this, and is it possible be such a plan of action at all, or should it be it should be with the state, it should be with the politicians, with the political leadership of the state or with the military, well, that is, the key to effective

opposition to the russian forces, the key to victory, is it primarily in the political cabinet or in the military? and this is the peak of incorrectness in general, there is a concept of military and political leadership - this is an integrated phenomenon in the part when there is a war of the type that is going on now in ukraine, whether a plan is drawn up in the strategic sense of confrontation in a mandatory order, but who in common sense will reveal its details, even a strategically important partner, the largest partners, well , there is no doubt that there is a dialogue between them. that all strategies will be discussed , there is not the slightest doubt, but i emphasize once again, in the open space such things can be discussed in detail either by enemies or useful idiots, in the open yes, but i am talking about whether the partners in the usa should know this plan, well necessarily, without their strategic, financial military

support, i do not imagine how we can endure this war, the day before, being with visit to latvia, volodymyr zelenskyi said during a meeting with the media that russia's plan on the battlefield is to achieve tactical successes before putin tries to re-election for the next presidential term in march, well, even the audience does not call it an election, but nevertheless, we know that they are supposed to take place there, and then, after the elections, it seems that russia is planning to start larger-scale hostilities, to what extent do you think russia's military plan can depend on putin's persuasion? in my opinion, i will express my opinion, maybe biased point of view, the minimum task for the russians is now extremely clear, they will go to the administrative borders of donetsk and luhansk regions. do everything possible to realize this task. in my opinion, putin's corresponding order already exists. why exactly ? they came to the conclusion that they will not be able to eliminate ukrainian statehood in this historical phase, and i am deeply

convinced that they will not be able to at all, and therefore it is necessary to show at least some positive results before putin's self-reappointment. is there a contribution for this potential, well at least 25-27 thousand people according to the principle of replacement without large-scale mobilization, they can apply in ukraine what they are doing, whether they will succeed in implementing this plan, a difficult question, the first phase, or rather, the first time indicator, which was supposed to be implemented by 14 in december, before putin’s conversation with his own mob, we failed, they did not implement, in the avdiivtsi area they lost practically a division of more than 1,500 personnel, and advanced to the operational indicators of a barely, barely mechanized company, well... i have doubts that they can do this task to realize, but at the same time the madmen cannot be underestimated, and the desire to die for a russian soldier, for the motherland, for putin

, for majesty and more, for what, this is also an objective reality that we cannot cancel, and whether after self-reassignment putin can resort to rhetoric, get up big country and call for a colossally large mobilization, and their mobilization resources are calculated within limits. people, and there are hundreds of thousands of kalashnikov and rusnyts mosin assault rifles in warehouses, well, this really poses a certain threat, we really need to act on prejudice as the most high-quality weapon, secondly, i will emphasize this aspect, because this is the philosophy of our success. about quality weapons, the president said such an interesting point yesterday that thanks to some long-range weapons, the defense forces were able to destroy 26 helicopters in one day. and 12 planes of the russian federation, it is not clear what day we were talking about when it happened, but could this be the case and with what kind of weapon could it be done,

well, i saw that they say that it could be attack missiles, well, with rockets and attacks, the slitaks don't go astray, that's all frivolous conversation, it may mean some base, some russian airfield there, or whatever it could be, if it could be, if it could be in such a large number. most likely, these are the first, first weeks of the war , when the russian aircraft entered our territory, because this information still needs to be checked, i do not in any way doubt what the president says, but this information can also be of this order, which is reported only for him, and not for us, if it could be, then most likely, still since this is just a point of view, it could have happened in the first weeks of the war, we already had stinger portable anti-aircraft missile systems armed then, and given the fact that... the russians were very active in our airspace with helicopters and other aircraft , then in principle this is not fiction, these are rising indicators, and

in order to detail this information, well , there should be a detailed position directly from the highest military and political leadership, i only expressed the version and in no way claim its correctness, but i offer now we have a fragment of this statement by zelensky, let's listen. the partners know that some of the weapons that they gave us, some, i won't say which ones now, but the partners, listening, understand some of the long-range weapons that they gave us, we destroyed 26 helicopters in a day, 12 planes that went up and struck later missiles, against which these systems worked, we destroyed 12 of... just what happened now? how can you react here? it is possible from, well, if

you elaborate in this way, it can also be an airfield, that is, the planes could also be in position ee on the airfield itself is not in the air, well, you can slightly modify this point of view and say that there really were some such missile complexes that were able to reach such aircraft at certain distances in the first place. in crimea, but if so, then it is quite possible, but once again, in order to accurately check such information, the governing bodies of the already military part of our state should detail it. volodymyr zelenskyi said an important point, what happened, what happened? well, so it was, well, then we are not revised, we do not revise words the president, if the supreme commander emphasized what was what, then it is... great, maybe he meant what will be what in the future, then there will be similar, good indicators of the actions of the defense forces, yes, thank you, for joining and thank you for

bringing up these important points. yes , they write a lot in the western media, but in fact it is very important to convey to society what could be meant, what plans are being discussed, so thank you for communicating and explaining it. petro chernyk, military expert, colonel of the armed forces of ukraine, was a guest of svoboda morning. this is svoboda ranok, my name is kateryna nekrecha, and further on this broadcast we will talk about such topics. the cabinet of ministers withdrew the bill on mobilization, which the deputies returned to the government for revision, but the minister of defense. mirov says that a new text is already ready, which is ready to be submitted for consideration. he says that the issue of mobilization is being politicized and stalled. how will the new text of the law differ from the previous one, and what changes await ukraine in matters of mobilization and demobilization. siskadovska, lyuba from kolomyia, jokes about rich widows and crimean traitors. recently, ukrainian entertainment projects have been involved in scandals related to inappropriate jokes. how

to joke during the war, or humor about occupied cities, about death and the military, let's talk about it with an official and a humorist, while you write your attitude to it in the comments. if this video and live broadcast on the radio liberty channel is important and useful for you, be sure to subscribe to our channel, set a favorite and the bell so as not to miss important broadcasts. further let's talk about changes in mobilization issues, team. the ministry of defense of ukraine has already prepared a new version of the bill on mobilization, and in the near future it is going to be submitted for approval by the government, said the minister of defense of ukraine rustem omirov, confirming that the previous version of the bill had been withdrawn. this law is necessary for the defense of our state and every soldier who is currently at the front. needed as soon as possible. now the issues of mobilization of military registration and conducting are critically important for the state rotations, are politicized and inhibited. it is not.

let's say during the great war. umyerov writes: the new edition took into account all the proposals that were agreed with the deputies at the meetings of the committee on national security, defense and intelligence, and he outlined the key tasks of the law: conscripts should be sent home, soldiers should be given the opportunity to rest, and those released from captivity should have a choice whether to remain in the army also, the government draft law should establish a clear term of service for mobilization. mumyerov's statement was preceded by a report that the cabinet of ministers officially... withdraws his bill on mobilization. earlier, the people's deputies reported that, based on the results of the conciliation council meeting in closed session , they decided to return the draft law to the initiator, i.e. the cabinet of ministers. the leader of the servant of the people faction , david arahamia, said that the country's military command was also present at the conciliation council. there were many discussions, we understand the request of the military command and are ready to go to the meeting, but not all norms can be supported, some provisions directly

violate human rights, some do not... there are optimally formulated, this was openly told to the military command, but all the police forces understood and supported the need for mobilization. i will only add that in addition to the draft law withdrawn by the cabinet of ministers, there are four alternative ones submitted by different political forces, in particular, they differ in terms of demobilization terms and the age for mobilization. let's continue this conversation, solomiya bobrovska, people's deputy of ukraine from the voice party joined our broadcast, and solomiya is also a member of the security committee. defense and intelligence of ukraine, i congratulate you, glory to ukraine, good morning, glory to the heroes, my first question to you is, are you satisfied with this result, this development of events? and i can't say i'm satisfied, because i'm in favor of a humanly correct approach to such an important, completely non-political or forbidden topic for politics, and when it started with christmas, it ended the way it should have ended , because over the shoulders of people who did not work this bill, it was strange to introduce a new version that has... a lot

flaws, shortcomings and needs to be refined , so we immediately proposed , let's you refine it, this was the proposal of the ministry of defense, that in the first days of our discussion with the committee, and we will calmly introduce whether they will introduce a new bill that will already be less controversial and problematic and painful for of the entire society, because this disturbance, which made a big wave in ukraine, was undoubtedly caused by those, well... norms that were absolutely not explained, not worked out, neither by the ministry of defense, nor by shmyhal, who disappeared altogether, in my opinion, from this discussion, i don't i don't know if it exists at all, the deputies don't see it either, and these norms, by the way, were not communicated even by the majority, so we believed, not because we are a position, but because there should be a statesman's position in relation to to this issue, so that it would be more correct for the ministry of defense to finalize it, and then introduce a bill.