coalition, of course, putin would like to rejoice, to rub his hands, to clap his hands , regarding the fact that it was possible to carry out an asymmetric attack on the anti-western coalition with someone else's hands, and apparently it really is, but not everything here, not everything looks like that, because we can remember that when hamas attacked israel on october 7, 2023, then... the houthis in principle sided with hamas and tried several times to attack israel, but what happened, well, first of all, in order to attack israel, they need to be over the territory of saudi arabia, to fly these rockets there and so on, but not just missiles and drones, and so it continued until the 31st, when it was actually october 31st. and

these ballistic missiles with a range of 200 km were launched, i will try to name them, they are gader f, yes, which have a warhead of up to 800 kg, and their anti-missile defense system destroyed these missiles, it became hopeless for the houthis to launch a missile war against israel directly for... for us what a lesson, let me remind you, air of free is an anti-missile system that was developed jointly by israel and the united states, more than half of the funds were allocated for this by the united states, and that means it was within the framework of the security agreement, when israel received more than 3 billion dollars annually and introduced joint developments with the united states, for us. this is a very important hint

that the israeli model of security agreements and security guarantees is active, it works very well, and this war in the middle east demonstrated it, among other things. will it succeed, will iran, which actually incited the houthis, incite them to be with civilians in the red sea. us war to conduct and facilitate piracy and so on, there the president of the united states was talking about, it seems, 27 powerful attacks that had been made and that a lot had been struck against shipping in the red sea, but that 's not even the point, the point is that, actually , the houthis were forced to choose and

... a target instead of israel, and in this way iran and moscow, well, that is, tehran and moscow tried to carry out an asymmetric strike and scale the war in the middle east, and what did the united states and britain do with their coalition, they inflicted an extraordinary blow power, and this strike of extraordinary power of more than 100, let's say, high-precision weapons, is... a signal not only to the houthis to suppress them at once, but it is a signal to iran and a signal to moscow that the first thing that the united states and the western coalition will dominate in the military sense in the world and will not allow the war to escalate. this is a very important signal. for us, what a signal this is, taking into account the fact that those weapons of the kushites were listed. of course, we

have several programs, which we call existential programs for ukraine, this the missile program, the drone program , and the ammunition program, all efforts should be thrown there, all efforts should be carried out, well, it would be possible to add the rebov program, it is currently developing its minifigures as a trench reb program, but it must, of course, be scaled up and brought out. funding in the fall was 5% of all funding projects for ukrainian weapons and ukrainian technology, i think that this is a little too little, it should be increased somewhere so that it is possible to create both trench rap and radio electronic warfare systems, i’ll give you a little bit now a break, because, relatively speaking, now what is important after these missile strikes on...

yemen is actually a coalition of 12 countries, which launched a missile strike on the enemy with a clearly defined goal of destroying the enemy's military facilities there and minimizing in... the influence of this group on security in the red sea. and another parallel, the russian federation, 50 countries that support us in the fight against the russian federation, is also a coalition, and the question arises, then a clear understanding of the purpose of this coalition, because in fact until now there were all these fluctuations, so that russia does not win there, ukraine does not lose, is this a sufficient goal for the potential of the coalition to really... be concentrated on the scale of assistance to ukraine that we really need, or is there not a certain gap regarding the not quite clearly defined goals of the coalition and on our needs, and that this story differs from the story of

a short-term point-blank strike on the khushids, absolutely exactly, i absolutely agree, because let's remember what winston churchill... once said about germany and japan, he said that we will consider victory means the complete destruction of the potential of nazi germany and japan. now, no country in the world or coalition can say that it wants the complete destruction of the potential of modern russia. but, but, come on. at least then, to consider the liberation of the occupied territories of ukraine and the organization of resistance and containment of russia as a victory, this is still not the case, that is why i

believe that the coalition does not exist yet, so far only its contours, the contours of the countries, counter-coalitions from the group of countries that provide sporad... aid, who thinks, for example, at first germany did not consider it an opportunity to provide powerful aid there, now, on the contrary, it is increasing it in the face of the challenge, let's say, that the united states can reduce aid, and germany, for example, for the 24th year doubled from 4 billion to 8 billion euros, or, let's say, japan increased it very powerfully to 4.5 billion dollars. will provide its assistance and, in particular, support the anti-drone capabilities of ukraine, and before that , until the end of the 22nd year, japan did not participate in any such projects at all, therefore, but this not a coalition, a coalition is when ukraine would receive all the weapons it needs to

liberate its occupied territories, including missiles with a range of 400-500 km, we need, well, at least... 500 units of such missiles, if you count them together and let's say surface-to-surface and tactical missiles, and count the missiles, cruise missiles that we could get not only from france and germany, but, sorry, from france and great britain, but also from germany, taurus missiles, yes, infamous, which we cannot convince berlin is to be handed over to us, well... and of course, this is air support, these are airplanes and helicopters, these are also modern drones, and maybe even modern anti-aircraft systems, by the way, when we talk about anti-aircraft systems, then one of the points of our thesis, the

conclusions, the conclusions about the five challenges are precisely the development of modern technologies, including at the expense of military-technical cooperation. here i want, i can't help but mention such an example here, which is extremely revealing, well, you can, but rainmetal is coming to us, yes, on market, but rainmetal wants to start with us to produce the old fuchs combat vehicle, and only then move on to the new combat tank at some stage, at some point even then it can move to, say, joint production of some anti-aircraft systems, such as the skynex, at the same time, see, hungary, which is, well, an actual collaborator within the eu, hungary with rheinmetall during the 23rd year, in the fall of the 23rd year, concluded two huge agreements, within the framework of which, and hungary in general, there

is almost no defense industry there, but within the framework of which there will be, let's just think will be produced. shared with the germans a new battle tank and a common means of air defense at the base, as i understand it is skynex or even newer updated ones. systems that rain metal presented at the exhibitions of the 23rd year. now the same story is the united states, which in india is deploying a powerful production of stryker machines, striker combat vehicles. so, part of this production is the creation of a super-powerful and ultra-modern complex of the army air defense complex based on the stryker machine, which... will also contain the rebovsky the complex and the complex of laser countermeasures against drones

, so we see that even in defense, even in defense, even though we got the latest systems about patriot and sampty, there is a certain lack of work here, because i named now exactly the army complexes, that is those complexes that will protect our troops on the battlefield are not pro... peaceful cities, i am talking now, but about the advancement of the ukrainian army, and about the fact that we need to convince our partners that we should not start with can be done, but from what we first of all, these air defense complexes are needed. i'm not talking about the fact that in september of the 23rd year, the united states, weapons... the army complex of anti-drone drones with a laser

system, and we would not mind having such complexes either, so they are only one battalion so far armed, this is the newest complex, but at least within the framework of, say , the testing of such weapons, or within the framework of the joint promotion of laser anti-drone programs, because such joint actions with... the united states conducts with the british, and in the same september 23 in britain synchronously tested a laser anti-drone system, and here i am talking about the fact that we have to make a hyper-leap in the field of creating the use of the latest technologies in the war, this is where our greatest, so to speak, our opportunities, our greatest, our greatest challenge for the future are. then, when we talk about the challenges, i would still like to return to your work,

to convey these five challenges to our viewers, which directions are we talking about, what is the meaning of each direction, and then we , maybe we will talk about some directions in more detail, taking into account the needs and capabilities of ukraine and our partners, so there are five directions, five challenges, what are we talking about, well, let me list them first, and then... we will work with them , as we can, well , the first is the probability of western aid, i.e. either maintaining or increasing it, we want, and this is a challenge, i.e. reducing it is a certain challenge. the second challenge is the ability of ukrainian society to mobilize, that is, to replenish the army with people, new boys and girls who will be able to help those who are currently defending on the battlefield. country, the third challenge is, strictly speaking, the possibilities

of military-technical cooperation with foreign countries and the creation of the latest such weapons systems, the fourth challenge is , strictly speaking, the mobilization of the domestic defense-industrial complex and the transfer of the center of gravity. on the domestic defense industry, so that we produce weapons and cover at least 30% of the army's needs on our own, and finally, the fourth challenge is the latest technologies, this is what i was talking about now, what we need to do hyper jump and go to, if we are talking about air defense, then this is already the use of laser systems, if we are talking about damage, then the use of electromagnetic weapons was developed in our country before a large-scale electromagnetic invasion. weapons, and of course, weapons for this are weapons based on new physical principles, together with

rebov's, let's say modern systems, these five challenges of challenges are key for us for the 24th year, while the fifth challenge, it well, so to speak , directed into the future to ensure a successful confrontation with the enemy russia then, when the war becomes like this... so to speak, or it will be in this form, when ukraine clears its territory of the enemy at a level, well, at some level, at which we can. or it will be frozen, this is also impossible , cannot be rejected, because we are now critically dependent on western partners, and in the end, the authorities will be forced, and ukrainian society will be forced to accept the position that will be dictated,

because , because in fact we cannot now fully provide for ourselves. complete confronting the enemy, so actually the 24th year becomes a key year for us in the competition of technology and logistics and the ability of our society to survive this, let's if we can go to i really have a question, there are actually five areas, yes, that is of them , three areas concern mobilization in these areas. in other forms, because it is the mobilization of people, the mobilization of industry, the mobilization of science, these are actually these three directions that are related to ukraine, and two directions are actually cooperation, interaction, a guarantee of this the international vector, that is, in fact, two components are international, three actually are ukrainian mobilization in various manifestations, eh, that, no matter how you

scale these weighting factors, that, relatively speaking, they are certainly not all equal in terms of priorities. what is most important for, relatively speaking, the construction of our defense system, for development, which factors are here, which are secondary, which are primary, how could these five directions be divided by weight categories, yes, i understand, that this is an extremely important point, if we were to say in general, and if such a war and the danger of a new offensive had not been launched now, i would of course say that on... more important, this is the third challenge, they are actually placed according to their hierarchical weight, and the third challenge - it is the ability to mobilize one's own defense-industrial complex, why? because then we will not be dependent so much, for example, in the missile field, we can provide more than 90%, and

now even in the drone field, well, more than 50, because there are still microelectronics components. and so on, what, but everything that is collected in ukraine over 50 is already ukrainian, and there cannot even be any doubt, because, well, very few countries in the world today can, well, can achieve a situation when they will fully provide for themselves, i bet. .. in the first place, in the first place in this form, in the general form , i would put the ukrainian, ukrainian defense industry in the first place, because the experience of other countries, well, for example, turkey did not have much, four, four dozen years ago had no industry at all, but

now, i mean defensive, but today exactly... on the day when the houthis were attacked, turkey announced the completion of the tests of two air-to-air missiles, the newest missiles, i think that she deliberately did this today to demonstrate that it is independent in the sense of weapons, although in fact it depends on many programs from the united states of america, there are programs for airplanes, helicopters and so on, but here are drones and... certain missiles, it is able to produce them independently and is able to present them independently, deliver them to weapons for the army, but let's go back to the weight, to the weight of these, let 's say the categories to the weight directly in these

weapons and these points, we determined the first by weight: aid, and certainly that american aid, it was at the end of the 23rd year about 45% of all the help of all western, well, not only western, all partners, therefore europe will not be able to cover 45% even with japan, south korea, and australia, which also help us a little. and so we look at how what prospects, prospects today, well, so, i would say difficult, we hope for... that we will receive the 61 billion dollars for the 24th year, or at least a part of this planned aid, but i am not sure that the situation will not

change as we approach before the presidential election, of course, if trump is neutralized, now 44% are ready to vote for trump, but trump, his position is wavering when the pro-ukrainian... candidate nikki haley is gradually gaining points and opportunities, and of course we very much hope for that, and by the way, we hope for the fact that the republicans of the congress have already announced their program of victory in ukraine, and ukraine, and there are three powerful points, one of which is to provide the weapons that are needed, the second is to take away assets from russia. and use them to restore ukraine, and the third is to strengthen sanctions against russia, and strictly speaking, this is a very powerful program if it will

work, because it is not clear, now the situation is not completely clear, it will be more clear, more powerful, if indeed nicky gailey will be the first number one from republicans, i have to interrupt you now a little bit, we will now break for... for an advertising information block, and then we will talk about how our defense industry should be transformed, in order to achieve some noticeable and qualitative changes this year, and in the very defenders and for equipping our armed forces, about this after the advertising and information block. there are discounts on amicitron of 20% in psyllanyk, pam and oskad pharmacies. there are 20% discounts on evkalor in pharmacies psylansky, pam and oskad.

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espresso. let's continue our program about war and weapons. my interlocutor, my colleague, is valentyn badrak, director of the army, conversions and disarmament research center. military analyst and writer, and mr. valentin, i would like us to continue to focus on, first of all, what we can realistically do in one year, because in fact, when we talk about missile pro projects, there are drone projects, rebov directions, the munitions field, yes, it needs such concentration, and maybe here you can make some progress, but all technological things, they usually stretch in time, so... what we have, well, we are guaranteed to achieve from of our power structures, from our industry, or to have, and what can be, let's say, a

second-order task? well, in order to go to some numbers and to some very specific things, we need to indicate what conditions for this must be: the first condition is the physical protection of enterprises, i will not decentralize production, we all... well, to some extent we know, yes, what happened on december 29 and january 2, and we know certain consequences of this, and it has for us be a certain lesson, on two of the two sides: one, one, this is until november, neither the government, nor e, the office of the president, nor the security services, were able to help these businesses, and that's why they were attacked, because there was a leak, a leak , certain, including from this one. i will give it there from other structures, so these things are necessary to ensure that this does not happen, and that the government's reaction to the protection of enterprises is instantaneous,

and not during... let's say, nothing was done for almost six months, this is during, well , such a war, yes, when it is deployed, uh, and now to the numbers, what is the potential, if in fact, to direct all efforts, all possible efforts, resource, and willpower to provide, well, at least a huge number of drones can be provided, at least to partially, of course ,... performed the function of artillery and allowed to hold out well for a certain time, this is the only way we can consider, we can consider the possibility of hitting enterprises and airfields of enemy control points, including not only in the occupied territories, including in the territory of russia, to move our weapons, our drones, and

the 10th is planned. medium-range drones and more than a thousand drones with a range of 1,000 km, this is not bad enough, a good arsenal for constantly tickling the nerves, let's say to the enemy in their logistics centers and control points and also at the enterprises of the defense industry, well and finally, the main thing is the missile program, well, as far as it is possible to advance. with the missile program, it's hard for me to say now, because i don't know the progress of this program, and maybe this one is good, because i don't know the details, but the experience is actually ukrainian and the experience of other countries, well, let's say, the neptune missile complex, was the missile program from this complex was launched only at the beginning of the 16th year, yes, already in the 20th year it was

accepted for... service in the summer, 3.5 years actually a powerful missile complex was made, which means that its modification could be much sooner, and we believe that it has already started since may of the 22nd, the new missile program has begun, in fact, so we can predict that by the end of sometime or inside the 24th, we will already have several hundred of the latest missiles that can be used... as surface-to-surface missiles. i also hope that there will be missile complexes, air-to-ground, cruise missiles, air-to-ground, besides, i personally have high hopes for joint work with turkey, that it will be possible to use akinshi, the newest drone that can carry a cruise missile with a range of 250

km, it's... a much cheaper drone than the american one, but quite a powerful weapon, and things like that, well, of course, i would generally say radical things, let's say a few days ago it was tested pakistan's new missile, yes, yes, quite a powerful missile, and we could expect to buy through third countries, certainly not direct imports. pakistan, and through third countries to buy such missiles and everything else like this, by the way, well, russia does it directly from iran and from the north korea, but for us the situation is a little more complicated, but it is not impossible, it is possible.