what exactly was written there , it has to be seen, but the question is that they violated their obligations, they started imposing their rules of the game on hong kong, they started persecuting people who wanted to preserve hong kong's sovereign status there, while that without this hong kong, their economy is nothing, that all their financial transactions take place through hong kong, that no one trusts the chinese stock exchange itself, only hong kong people trust, that if they destroy hong kong, they will, in principle, finally destroy the possibilities of developing their own... economic well that for them they seem to have created all the perfect conditions, they don't let chinese people into, you know, a chinese person, of course, from the people's republic of china has to get a visa to come to hong kong, on the contrary, they let foreigners into hong kong without visas, but with these they destroy everything that makes hong kong a free city, so to speak, and the taiwanese look at this hong kong and think, well, we'll agree on this principle, one country, two systems, they... they hate

our government, but how many years have they been here? will let them go, we won't be able to stop them then, we won't have an army, which hong kong doesn't have, we won't have special services, which hong kong doesn't have, we'll just have the guarantees of great britain, oh, by the way, okay, yes, a good illustration, you don't believe in them, i see it that way, and even more so, they probably wouldn't want ukraine to sign something similar with the united states, it's better for something more concrete. i didn't say that , i didn't say that i don't believe, i would say that it's not something that will ensure, uh, it's, you know, it's better than nothing, 100%, and no forget that in these houses, what is it called, how do you sometimes say the word that you sometimes forget, is not a guarantee, but er, an assurance, an assurance, yes, it is an assurance, they foresee that we should have such a level of the army, which will enable us to help great britain if she is attacked, we must always remember, by the way, to our people.

to say that all the time when we are in favor of signing these assurances, they will be bilateral, so that ukrainians will die in the red sea and in the taiwan gulf, in the future, if we formalize all this, listen, well, we will join nato with exactly the same ones, that doesn't mean that we shouldn't join, no, but it's just that three people, we need to know that, we need to realize that our victims, let's say, are from the war in the taiwan strait. if it is there in 10 years , there may be more than on the russian-ukrainian front, you just need to know that, this is the price, maybe we will be lucky, maybe not, and maybe so, this is reality, because it will be a war with china, and a war with china is not a war with russia, there are a billion people, not some unfortunate 140 million, there they won't talk, you know, of course there are several times more, more, but we can take the quality, no, no, no, this is a completely different story, we just have to remember this, as the next page of our history, what.

.. here we have russia will not attack us, but there will be a war there, it may be so, and these documents basically create a platform for us to take part in it, this is also true, because in order not to say later, you were not warned, this does not mean that you should not enter, but you must remember that it is in all that i said, all that i said, that not only are we going to be protected, but our soldiers are going to be in other wars, that doesn't mean, oh, we all didn't leave this war to our children , our children will not die anymore, they will, because we... for the sake of ours, so that we do not die today, we enter into a defensive alliance that allows our children and grandchildren to die tomorrow on other fronts, that's it, that's how civilization was created, collective security, that's why it's called collective, in general, that's why that everyone reports, switzerland says, we don't want to leave anywhere, we are dying, we are a neutral country, sorry, we will help you , the red cross, the olympic committee, you can put everything on us, as long as we are not bullied, we are not touched, we are not conquered .

everything, uh, everyone, it's good, let switzerland be like this, ukraine, it's not switzerland anymore, we all can't play this game, we lost the opportunity anyway. mr. vitaly, well, you already mentioned the red sea, and indeed , the situation here has been very difficult for some time due to the fact that the yemeni houthis actually blocked and attacked civilian shipping, it's hard even to calculate now, it's probably a conversation with economists that should be more specific, but i... what part of the world economy in general depends on the stability of the situation in the red sea. i know for a fact that you believe that instability there can shake the world much more than even russia's war against ukraine. well, sayetska channel, the channel has already halved its trade, well, what can i say. considering that the attack is actually on the yemenis houthis in order to ease the situation in krasnoye. sea, in particular, took place simultaneously

with, probably, even rishi sunak's stay in the ukrzaliznytsia train car on his way to kyiv, where he was signing some security assurances there. for us, and for myself in the future, could this speak of a special determination of great britain, which may be followed by other countries, but the united states will now sort things out, find some kind of internal political compromise regarding there migration policy, something else, and vote that what we need, and not only us, germany will be born and give taurus, just as they give us drones, storm shadows and scalps in great britain and the same france. can it be considered that this locomotive has finally moved, maybe more actively than before, and that britain is this locomotive, well, britain is definitely such a real impetus for other countries to take more

active actions, but it is not today this is what happened britain has always been like this, this is its historical role since the second world war, when britain failed once in 1938 year during the munich agreements, we are still atoning for this mistake of prime minister chamberlain, until now, all we are already in so-so, in which we live, is the world created by munich, then britain tried to justify and correct this mistake, and she it still does, but you understand the point, the number of conflicts is just increasing, it ’s dangerous, look, now we already have two constant wars, and how many today we have 600. on the 89th day, i’ve already stopped counting, to be honest, but with unas has another calendar, i think today is the 98th day of the war in the middle east, however, as far as i remember, well, less

, but in the middle east it has been going on for much longer than it was generally possible to calculate, so, well, now the war is in the near 99 for. 100 days, so now, what is happening with the houthis is what the secretary of state blinki calls the metastases of this conflict in the middle east, then let's see what will happen around taiwan, how far the west will have enough resources to extinguish the whole fire, you understand, in such a quantity. when we understand that we started with the event talk with tactics of small cuts, here, here, here, and, by the way, not so small, i 'm sorry, because if it was a war in a country that was four to five times smaller than ukraine, ugh, it there could be a small

cut, and this is not a small cut, about 20% of the territory of ukraine, which is occupied by russia, how many european countries could be located on this. you understand, here we are talking about the baltic states, that russia could attack the baltic states if they were not in nato, and the territory of the baltic clients, it seems to me, is less than the territory of 20% of ukraine occupied by russia. and that is also an important point, so in this regard, of course, the west is trying to resist, but in the conditions of the electoral cycle. both president biden and prime minister sunak will defend their power this year, and everything is almost clear with prime minister sunak, his political career is ending, i generally think that this may be the last years of the existence of the conservative party .

listen, they bet everything on brexit to knock the table out of the chairs, the chair from under the feet of the british populists from the great independence party. british in principle everything was done correctly, the only thing that is not clear is that the moment the british people say that they do not like brexit, and this has happened now, because the vast majority of people think that brexit has disappointed them, they will not blame the independence party , which no one remembers anymore, about this nigel farage, this whole company of freaks, and the conservatives who deceived them, and the fact that sunok invited to ... the government of the last prime minister of great britain, when great britain was considered an integral part of the european union, david cameron, it says a lot that we understand that david cameron made a fatal mistake in the history of his country, a fatal one, well, and now it

will be a serious change of political elites, and i generally assume that in the future in parliament of great britain not in this one, which will be elected now, but maybe. in the next one, there will be a struggle between laborers and liberals, social democrats, and not laborers and conservatives, it can be like that, you have to pay for everything, you have to pay for existence for any deception of the nation. and president biden also has a very serious problem, we see it because president trump does not lose the support of his sympathizers in the republican party, everything seemed clear, a million lawsuits, a million objections, a million comments, storming the capitol, nothing changes, where that vaunted, excuse me, reputation institute? a person with so many suspicions, judges, with so much

reputation and still has a huge support, see, in the age of new information technologies, there can be no institute of reputation, because people have so many information that they manage to forget everything that happened the day before yesterday, in 48 hours, we always said that in ukrainian conditions there is no institution of reputation, but our colleagues, they know what journalism looked like, a person worked as a journalist there for 5-6 years and then a new person ran away somewhere and appeared, and the politicians did not change, they simply switched from party to party, and a person would approach someone in an embroidered dress with a patriotic gleam in their eyes, not even knowing that this person was the secretary of the party's central committee a few years ago in the same region where they were and spoke at rallies criticizing nationalism, they did not even imagine that such a thing was possible, and that, how do you feel about... komunyak spoke with hatred, the first former first secretary of the party regional committee and the former

head of the komsomol in this, in this region , well, that's right, and this seemed normal to us , but now it has passed to the west completely calmly and trump really does not think about his reputation . do you remember that famous phrase of trump's that he said that i can leave on the street and kill a person and nothing i won't, they will forget about it the next time. that day, well, here is the answer to your question, and everything that people think, what they accused trump of, is the result of a conspiracy about him, against him by the elites, who cannot allow such a beautiful person, the liberator of america, a person who did such important things in the economy and in such other things, before the presidential election, if trump is removed from the presidential election, i assure you that the majority of people who voted for him will think that they simply could not vote for trump, they will never believe it happened. never did, ugh, it will be considered a usurpation of power, even if the republican

candidate wins the election, maybe if the republican party wins it will somehow save the situation, but in principle the situation is very bad, it will not get better, let's say a few words about poland, so that in fact events are interestingly unfolding there as well, as of late donald tusk is going to visit ukraine and promises that he will not allow it. to somehow build a political career in his country on a thesis against ukraine, as well as theses and parasitism of russia's war against ukraine. at the same time, our president volodymyr zelenskyi visited the baltic countries a few days ago, on the way back, actually met at the airport, if i'm not mistaken, with the president of poland, andrzej duda, and some are already joking a little, probably about this ... the moment they actually took advantage of the situation and

were actually arrested met with svitlana tykhanovskaya at the time when they were arrested it was known that this was the case and met in belvedere and svitlana tykhanovskaya this but less so politics, law and justice are understood by marish kaminsky and maciej wonsik, now a large number of people. at the protest , in fact, the support for these ex-government officials, they are brought out, of course, by the heads of law and justice, kaczynski, muravetskii, blaszczak, do you want to talk about the institution of reputation, people, and about it too, my lord, forgive me , well, people were sentenced to prison for actually aiding and abetting, exceeding official powers, that's what they nominally call it. you know that the deputy prime minister died as a result of this story poland's anze lepper committed suicide because he believed that his

unjust accusation, well, i'm not a big fan of mr. lepper, but the story itself, it looks to say the least, deserves consideration, investigation, but the question is not even whether whether they are involved or not, the question is that the president of poland , andrzej duda, issued an illegal decree to pardon people who were not convicted, that is the whole story. if he waited for the verdict, it was nothing at all, ugh, he didn't wait for the verdict, what was it done for, it is unclear, it is clear that just then the party of law and justice... all the power, the president, the government, the parliament, and they believed that they could do whatever they wanted, ugh, and unfortunately, the president also believed so, now by the way, he says that he can pardon them, that's it, the crisis will be over, by the way, as soon as he pardons them again, again, they will be released immediately, there will be no problem with that, uh, but he doesn't want

to pity them, he didn't even want to be there the day before yesterday, so as not to admit that he was performed an invalid act. because he is always right, we know, remember , he compared ukraine to a drowning man, this is a person who is unable to admit his mistakes, this is also a huge problem, the second point, the third point, which is also very serious: the party is right and justice created legal chaos, that's what it was criticized for in the european commission, and we couldn't stop it in any way, and what did they do, well, what did they do, they created. the parallelism of the functions of judges, and now the supreme court has its own point of view, he canceled termination of the investigation, and the constitutional tribunal, which in turn is part of the supreme court, confirmed the jurisdiction at the termination of the investigation, one branch of government refers to the decision of the supreme court, the other branch of government refers to the decision

of the constitutional tribunal, how could this be at all, that is, they specifically created the situation when you can refer to the decisions of judges who are controlled by you, it is basically called a captured country. do you remember that in the days when the oligarch plahatniuk was in moldova, well, he just collected there the meeting of the constitutional court , they convened and canceled everything, presidential elections, parliamentary elections, whatever, it just doesn't exist, it doesn't exist, it doesn't exist, and as a result, when plakhatnyuk fled from kishenev, the entire constitutional court resigned, because they understood very well , that they are... by no means judges, well, this is happening in a country like moldova, which is just building democratic institutions, but how could this happen in poland? i will say that these are the years of the rule of the party of law and justice, the years of andrzej dula's presidency are simply a shame, frankly, for a democratic european country, what can be said here, that 's all, but of course, we can say that there is an acute political crisis in poland, and

the hope that the victory of the opposition in the elections, she this crisis. they do not make excuses, it exacerbates this crisis, because the law and justice party is not going to lay down its arms so easily, because the alternative for its leaders is serious persecution, uh, legal responsibility, so first of all it is necessary to mobilize public opinion, they take advantage of every best opportunity, secondly, they need to prepare for local elections, for elections to the european parliament, because if they improve their results there, they will say, oh, oh, so 2024 will be the year of local elections and to the european parliament, and the year 2025 is the presidential election, there will be no peace, there will be constant fighting, and the opponents, as you can see, are donald tusk's cheers, they are also not going to find some

real common ground with them, so to speak, so that they believe that these people have completely monopolized the state, if all this is not ... er changed, then at any moment the power can simply be lost at the level of the parliament and the government, well, what is meant, why was there such a hard line in relation to public broadcasting, because public broadcasting has turned into a mouthpiece of the ruling party, and this, i apologize, is not soviet public broadcasting, when you know, well , read public television, when today we say glory to the cpsu, and from... tomorrow we say, long live democratic russia , or oh we have always been for the independence of ukraine. i remember all this from my own experience, you know, in 1991, when people who wrote a few months before denounced me that i was walking around the kremlin wearing a blue and yellow badge, until in august

of 1991 i met and did not want to greet me, and they were already badges, and they said, but you work in... skuv, we do n't want to talk to you, and this, and i knew for sure that these were people demanding me fired there for nationalist beliefs, but everything was fine, they had all sat down, the entire studio was already in blue and yellow, everything fine, well, these are such people, but people who work for the public, worked for the public broadcasting of poland, they are not like that, they are just ideological supporters of law and justice, and even after the victory of the opposition, they would absolutely calmly continue in those ways. party narratives into life, because this is their ideology, not adaptation in the literal sense of the word, they are simply convinced conservatives, and they believe that for the sake of the victory of their own camp , you can... lie, you can distort reality, you can not invite someone else's on the air politicians, because they are enemies for them, and they would act like this if they remained, after

the change of power, simply for them the enemy would be the polish government, not the polish government, not the polish government, german spies, as he said about donald tusk , yaroslav kaczyński, well, if i'm an honest polish journalist, i'm sitting here on public broadcasting, i have a german spy as prime minister, so i won't say that he's a german spy, but i will. this tusk is a german spy, and that is why, of course, the cleaning of public broadcasting from the propagandists of the party of the cause and justice, turned out to be the number one task for buriad donald, but it was done by difficult methods to say the least, it also looked so difficult, so about the methods of donald tusk and whether he will manage to extricate himself and poland from this story stenet pissu, not sure, i think , that polish society is not in this situation for the first time. now we have to admit that this is generally a sign of polish statehood, as roman dmovsky once said: "oh, i'm afraid that the poles, when they get

statehood, they will treat their own statehood the way they treated foreign statehoods, it will be such a crisis, they will not perceive poland as their country, ugh , he was wrong, it is very similar in ukraine, ukrainians very often perceive the country as some kind of foreign state, and a different situation happened with poland , divided into two camps, each of which believes that poland is their state, but this camp is not a polish state, it is some other people, and we will tear them all apart for our poland, for our vision of poland, what kind of poles are these, what kind of poles are they, and by the way, when the first polish president gabriel narutowicz was killed, it was conventionally the tusk camp. uhu, conditional, well, it’s all very conditional, and the answer is that marshal pilsudski, this is also conditional tusk’s camp,

carried out a coup d’état and removed from power people, uh, who can be considered tkachynski’s conditional camp, it was back in 1900 there in the 20th year, and even then i read the diaries of maria konopnytska, a great polish writer, who wrote that it is very embarrassing to admit that we have two polands. and they were preserved by some strange miracle after 100 years, and by the way, the problem is that we can call it the polish disease, it affects more and more european countries. look, there are already two countries everywhere, one of which does not tolerate the other, simply cannot digest it. and tell me, something similar is already happening in ukraine, or maybe it has always been, it’s just that when we see now... the heat of passions in any discussions, where people are divided into two camps of conditionals, zelebots and dust workers, i’m afraid, everyone is considered ,

medicine doesn't bother me much, me what worries me is precisely this conflict of identity, how we have always been oriented towards russia and oriented towards the west, the figures of the leaders have changed, but it has always been there, and by the way, and it is not so strong now, because the people who are there... support volodymyr zelenskyi, they can simultaneously be supporters of the european euro-atlantic choice, ugh, and they have a completely different, i would say, subject of disputes with supporters, well conditionally petro poroshenko or someone else, because here is our president, he will definitely lead there , then, when yours couldn't bring, well, it 's not so bad, but i want to make sure that after the war these two identities will just look different, we have to go west to europe. we do not need to behave very sharply so that russia does not attack us again, this is a serious threat, one way or another, well

, it leaves, but ukraine can somehow overcome it, because we live in a military society, but i have to tell you honestly, what is happening in europe now worries me a lot, this is what... between, you see, it was not like that earlier, between supporters of the party of law and justice, supporters of this democratic coalition that came to power, there is no transparency, there is a wall, i saw this between supporters of trump and biden, between supporters of democracy, republicans of the united states, here you are sitting in some company, american ukrainians, there is such a normal conversation, and suddenly this topic comes up, and you understand that these people hate each other, they are not the same. they cannot hear each other, there is a wall between them, it is opaque, that is, i always thought that civilized politics is the politics of a transparent wall, uh, when we can... talk, i and

i always checked it on my russian interlocutors, there were quite a few people, even during the putin regime, with whom i had a transparent wall, even after 14 year , i could talk to them on the air, these people could have positions, by the way, attention, the question, what do you think happened to these people with whom i had a transparent wall in russia, they all got stabbed. satellite during covid and they became impenetrable, no, no, they were all deprived positions, even those people who were absolutely supporters of the regime, but who could support such a diplomatic discussion, because this regime no longer needs such people, it only needs dangerous madmen, and when i ask, and i remember talking to with this, i wonder what he will do now, i think interestingly, he is probably promoting war there, and it turns out that

he has already been removed from everyone. and this was removed, and this was removed, and this was removed. anyone who could talk at all just in the wrong conditions, ah, you bastard, i'll destroy you, i'll burn you, i'll i will come, there are no more of them in russia. this means building an opaque wall. because now, when i imagine, i can talk to some russian official or a member of the general council of the united russia party on some conventional bbc. year, i could talk harshly, so it was a conversation between enemies, but it was a conversation, now there is no one to even have such a conversation with anyone, even if i wanted to, i don’t really want to, to be honest, but the bbc knows it won't host such a conversation because there is no such person, and it's this disease of opacity with everything is clear about russia, it is becoming dominant in democratic societies, because we used to be able to

go for tea with a person of other political views absolutely calmly. and talk, well, i’m sorry, now i don’t have such a desire, ugh, before , no one understood how i don’t invite members of the party of regions to my broadcasts, when i said, well , of course i will, because i’m not a transparent wall , but with the servant of the people party, we are non-prosoratsina, they come to fir vo without pro, there is a difference, absolutely, but with the pro regions party, no, well, this is the answer to the question when we say that we have with someone... different political views, a different position of all this, it can be, the whole question is transparency, because the person himself talks to you, and you talk to this person, you don't have the desire and generally just to get out and go and not debate, and she has no problem with the debate, she knows you're wrong, she may not even respect you very much, but she's ready to debate, and that's what that is now universally lost, it is...

a sign of a new era in europe and the west politics, and we may find ourselves in the same situation, this really worries me quite seriously, you are right that when i see some comments now, when you speak there, the president said so and so and you are told and sold to this president and you just quoted the president of your country, well, who was elected by the people and such and such a president was elected by me... we quote him, he is the president of a warring country, and people cease to realize this, and on the contrary, you said there that the leader of the opposition there, relatively speaking, there are some put the drones or some kind of thing that you are promoting barih, but clearly for money, that’s it, it has to end, because it’s just a road to failure, and thank you, khrystyna, thank you, mr. vitaly, the saturday political club was with you traditionally, until next saturday we say goodbye, khrystyna yatskyi, vitaly

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