were not even foreseen by the two parties, but now the question is, what we have is ok with britain, we think that even labor, who may come to power in the next election, they will continue this, because we know their attitude is also positive towards such security issues with ukraine, and whether the same agreement will be valid without us ratification, i am not sure, that is, if a similar text of this kind is signed with the executive... of the united states, then i am not sure that in the future it cannot undergo well, not at all changes in the text, but simply the attitude, if there are any, will change, say, the power of the democrats, there to the republicans, well, i mean the presidential elections in the first place, so it would be important for us to establish a mechanism for ratification from both sides for this type of agreement, and that , that it is not here, this is, well, this is really a weakness , but one more point, read

the text carefully, you will find a lot of interesting points, perhaps which do not need to be ratified, well, for example, i found that ukraine will be obliged undertakes an active fight against corruption in civil society society of ukraine. i did not understand how it is and what it is, what kind of fight against corruption in civil society it is, but there is such a moment, i understand why it arose, and it arose from the ukrainian side, but is it worth in... and the agreement lay down such things that will later be ratified, so here it is necessary , starting from this text, to understand that indeed our desires cannot always support being partners, this is the first position, the second, with each country there must still be an individual approach, and from of this standard now it is necessary to push back, as if from the bottom, that is, a low point, and try to get more, and the third... that the whole

issue of security, security umbrella, security guarantees, remained open, it remained open, and we now clearly see that the rhetoric regarding this track would not work, and this should be understood and already understood in the president's office, so it is not surprising that the president had a meeting regarding membership in nato, and regarding additional activities in this direction, this is a good signal, the only thing ... that when they are dispersed resources for two tracks and for bilateral agreements and for nato membership, i am afraid that we have enough personnel, diplomatic, and financial resources to introduce all this at the same time. mr. valery , please tell me, did you not get the impression, after reading the document in an accessible format, that these are all the assurances we are talking about, they relate to aggression against ukraine in the future, that is, more... opportunities

to use british technologies, military production and so on and so on, both on land and on water and in the air, we will only have it in the future, but with regard to the current conflict, somehow everything is quite optical, well, i think that here it seems to me that there is confirmation of an approach, and there are some points that speak of the possibility in the event of the next aggression. yes , i will tell you even more why this agreement, well, it is quite so strange from the point of view of international law, because as a rule, international agreements are signed, security agreements, they are signed without having in mind any specific entity , in this case , of course, this is an agreement, which means the russian one russian war against ukraine, there are no other risks that could in principle exist.

regarding ukraine in the next 10 years, which this agreement considers before possible revision. i think that this is also a weakness, because it may sound strange, but, well, the risks in ukraine, in relation to external aggression, can come not only from the side of russia, this is, firstly, secondly, if a conditional russia is already there, well, it will happen that it will be fragmented, and it will be other subjects of international relations, well... the agreement provides for changes, the agreement provides for correction there, so here, in principle, i would not be afraid that this would somehow dilute britain's current approaches to helping ukraine, on the contrary, i think that it even strengthens it, and the evidence of this is the presence of concrete figures, there is 2.5 billion pounds of aid, which is really the best , what is in such agreements is specific, tell me, what... is heard about

the vote in the congress on aid to ukraine, how do you generally feel about the development of events? i have already said many times, and... well, this behavior continues, every day we swallow validol there, whether it will be or not, let's let's start with what was said a long time ago, including on your broadcast, i think we discussed it, that there will be no decision before february, and it was already known, but i said it again, if i'm not mistaken, at the end of october, here there is an explanation, and now it has been reinforced by concrete actions, a process. unfortunately, it is not the best scenario, but as i try to explain this scenario, this is the american approach, when the stakes are raised to the maximum level, well , to some political discourse, and then at

the last moment, already before the deadline of the parties find a compromise, like a solution, well , you are part of it. we that they squeezed out during the discussion period, something similar is happening now in this issue, one thing that worries me is that in fact the white house and the current administration cut off any moves steps back and bet on pressure, that's what it's about, for example , the democrats abandoned the lendlease law, now i hear different opinions, but... well, i read the american laws for in this package in the nda in the defense budget for the 24th year, this is this item 1224, it disappeared, that is there is no extension of the lend-lease law, that is, this tool will not exist now, well, at least

until they make another decision, secondly, they can take more from the warehouses and sell weapons at the residual price, even if... there will be no funding, it can also be why are they declaring now sharply that they have nothing to deliver to ukraine anymore, don't take it as the truth, it's not the truth, it's only part of the truth, because they put so much pressure on the republicans, they have something to deliver, only the mechanisms will be different, it will be necessary to buy at a low price, lower, but buy. third, no one mentions that 300 million have already been allocated for ukraine in the defense budget. and this means that at least this year there will be several such tranches of 150-200 million, maybe, the problem is something else, the problem is how america, in washington, and not only in the white house, look at the continuation in 24- th year of military operations, this

is the main thing, whether they are ready to make corrections in their strategy and provide concentrated and quick assistance to ukraine in the first half of the year. this year there is enough military equipment, resources and cooperation with europe, so that there are changes in the course of the war itself, so that it can be transformed from a positional war, which the russian-ukrainian war is turning into, well, into a maneuverable one, for this, solutions are needed , including this package of 61.4 billion dollars , that is, it is not about what america supports or does not support, it is about how we see together the strategy of victory this year, the de-occupation of ukraine, and now the republicans are doing a very dangerous thing, that they have started to delay the decision until the primaries, new hampshire originally said, then they say, let's wait

for holy tuesday, where more than 800 voters will determine, well, choose more than 800 voters in many states, it's march 5, and now ... they want to drag out, moreover, this small part of them that was marginal , and now she has become dominant , she summoned, so to speak , the speaker of the house of representatives to a conversation and told him, they put an ultimatum in essence, the other day it was, if he does not withdraw the question, this is help, or rather not help, but a shutdown, well that is disallowance of funding, if it is will not act harshly in the future, then he can be replaced, so that's the story. it will still drag on, well, at least until the beginning of february, and i think, probably even longer. and please tell me, mr. valery, what is happening now, in fact at this hour is happening in taiwan, we are talking about the already counting of votes in the elections there, there is

an understanding that most likely the current vice president, who is perceived by china, will win as a dangerous separatist, what is happening now in the middle east, particularly in the... red sea, and we understand to what extent the situation there is important for the whole world, for trade routes, first of all, and definitely the situation in ukraine, all of this in the complex can play a role in the fact that... each of the locations i named now in fact on the world map would get its support from the united states, or are we already forced to speak exclusively for our own interests? you asked the question more than once, i will try to answer briefly: the us defense doctrine describes how to act in two regional wars. so they are not can operate in three regional wars. what we are seeing now is... not yet regional wars, it is only their, well, such a deployment, so, let's say, in the conditions, if there is a war

in europe, and it goes beyond the borders of ukraine, and such a scenario is possible, if in the middle east iran will enter the war against israel, and the two koreas will also be at war, the usa will hardly be able to act effectively in these three directions at the same time. militarily, so i think that's what the adversaries of the united states are trying to achieve, but there it is good news, first, you see how the situation is developing in the middle east, it seems to me that very serious steps have been taken there in order to stop the escalation, the development of the conflict in the region, iran after demonstrating such a strike, which was not opposed by china, but now the attention is not on russia, and now blinken is meeting the secretary of state with the head of the international

department of the central committee of the party of china in washington. you understand that they all gave the go-ahead for strikes on iran, well, by proxy, iranian condemnations, mr. valery, whatever, russia came out with condemnation, was the statement of the ministry of foreign affairs of russia. vitaly, the statements of the ministry of foreign affairs of russia are propaganda leaflets. a propaganda sheet, and i watched the meeting of the un security council, where russia was twisting as much as it could, and the same benzya, who simply rudely treats ukraine with ukraine, there russia only refrained from supporting the joint resolution, and china supported, well , refrained, yes, they told their excuses there, i.e. explained why they... actually supported the blows do you understand how cynical the approaches are,

what is the difference between freedom of navigation in the red sea and the black sea, in money, in russian money, yes, that’s why you see when everyone’s interests coincide, when interests coincide, and there really is 15% of all trade, and china interested, and russia, and here they are, when the interests coincided, that's all, they forgot about it, the only thing is that... this is russia, and they tried to insert this remark into the resolution, so that this decision would not be spread to other regions of the world, that is, how the so-called at homehop, and that is, we are in the red sea yes, in the black and of south china, in another way, this was the joint position of russia and china, that is, that is all, that is, this is a very, very revealing moment for us, where we have an explanation for china's interests. things can go very differently there, now going back to taiwan, it's a long

story, too many factors to evaluate it all now. come on, i'm still not ready to say all this at once, because let 's wait for the composition of the parliament, because there the kuomintang, together with others, can seize control, despite the fact that the same party wins the president for the third time, well, relatively speaking, so what further prepared to oppose mainland china, but the... less, the situation can go in different directions, the only thing i can say is that it is developing in such a way that the key point of the development of a serious conflict will be in south asia, ugh, that's all, all, all roads lead there, the only question is, everyone will be thinking how to end the war in europe before this event, it will be beneficial for china that the war in europe does not end, that the usa is distracted by... europe, and the usa will, well, i hope it is beneficial to quickly put an end to

the issue of russian aggression against ukraine. i i think that this should unite europe and the usa in achieving some specific goals this year, well, i hope so, because it will be difficult in the future, and the last point, in fact, those who say that the change of administration in the usa could lead to major foreign policy change, they're right, and it's not just about donald trump. the question is that if a republican president changes, the administration will change dramatically, there will no longer be the same conditions that existed during the past period under president trump. he will bring immediately very similar, well, drastic changes in the secretary of state, the minister of defense, this will be an administration that will start by breaking commitments with europe, well , at least they will announce withdrawal from nato and other things, and will shift the center of attention to south asia, why? we, we just, you know, think that europe is more important to the average american than asia,

nothing like that. since world war ii, every american knows that the attack came on the... harbor, the attack came from the west coast, from the west coast, from the sea, from the ocean, and the third line of defense of the usa, well, it will be conventionally called that, passes through taiwan, japan, taiwan, south korea, the islands, this is the circle that the generals drew at the time after the second world war as an important line of resistance to an attack on the usa, and for them it is closer , that region of europe, and this, and this is such a reality, which we have described. i don't see, do you know why? we have maps that are all eurocentric, but we have a map in the core, but look at the maps in the usa, in the maps of the usa, there is the usa, in the center, and this map, where the usa is in the center, it is not at all like the ones we saw in our schools or universities there, look at the globe and everyone from the globe can unfold their map, do you want ukraine in the center, do you want

the usa, and china has maps, and do you want australia, there are such maps too, and do you want australia? and china has to map china, the center of the world, you see , if you look at this map with china, it is a strange map at all, one day we have to show people that we do not have such an imagination that changes ours about everything in this world, so everyone acts very cynical and in its own interests, and now china's position has shown where china is interested, it turns out that it is possible to change the position, not the same as with regard to ukraine, thank you, mr. valery, for incl. for important points valery chaly, ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary of ukraine to the usa from 2015 to 2019 . well, we are picking up the topic, actually, and we are talking about south asia, and not only. mykhailo yakubovych, orientalist, candidate of historical sciences, researcher at the department of oriental studies at the university of freiburg, germany. congratulations, mr. mykhailo, glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes, good

evening. so let's start with these attacks on container how effective do you think they are? to what extent, in principle , it can be considered that the yemeni houthis can be tamed by missile strikes. by the way, i was reading one of the yemeni newspapers today, continuing the conversation we had with mr. valery, mr. mykhailo, and it was written there that yemen is at the center of world civilization, that it is a country that combines islam with yemeni values. what everyone understands, the role of yemen in... world history, well, that is, they dug up the red sea, of a kind, and that's it, is it possible to somehow stop people with such a vision of civilization rocket fire? well, in fact, the thesis is not so far from the truth, if we talk about the arab civilization, we know about the adnan and kikan tribes, northern and

southern, it is believed that the southern tribes, arab at one time in the pre-islamic period indeed. played an almost key role in the civilization of the arabian peninsula, that is, these countries, such as the united arab emirates, saudi arabia, bahrain, other developed countries, and went far ahead due to the sale of natural resources, in fact, they took over such a baton from yemen, but now we are talking about another. in fact, if you recall the recent history of yemen, i am talking about the civil war after 2011, because now yemen is divided into three regions. in fact, one under the control of the usa, saudi arabia, the other of the emirates, and finally the houthi part, so in 2015, saudi arabia and the emirates delivered very strong powerful blows to the name, much more powerful than those that are currently inflicted there on the port of hudaydah and americans in other regions, but this did not prevent

the houthis from taking over the most densely populated part of the country and holding power there, to rebrand, to form a government of national salvation, which, of course, not many recognize and almost no one, but they are trying to show that they allegedly not only correspond to the interests of the yemeni people, but also, well, in fact, represent the state at the international level, these strikes in some ways they were demonstrative, in others they were warning, it is clear that they can have a continuation, their goal is not to... to question the currently houssid power in the western part of the south-western part of the arabian peninsula, but rather just to drive them away from the coast so that they... could not launch all kinds of weapons against civilian ships there, and it is clear that

they do not pose any significant military threat to the united states, so these goals can be achieved with such strikes, driving the houthis a little into the depths of the country, but will there be further support for the presidential leadership council, as it is called, which governs the eastern part of yemen, or the emirati southern yemen, well, here is the question, how the situation will develop further, but that is already internal, rather, things that are unlikely to have any echo far outside, that is, i would say that here we have such a confrontation, which has defined goals and, but without a ground operation , there can be no question of overthrowing the houthis, absolutely, ugh , mr. mykhailo, please tell me, do we understand correctly that when we talk about strikes by the united states of great britain with the support of allies against the yemeni houthis, we are generally talking about a proxy strike

by the iranians in the region, and in fact the yemeni houthis are a terrorist group , which almost immediately supported hamas in its struggle with israel from the beginning of october 2023, how does this episode fit in and affect the overall development of the situation between hamas and israel, and is it even worth connecting these two episodes? they should be linked before everyone with the actions of iran. in this case, first of all , the houthis from the very beginning, and this movement appeared in its modern meaning in 2004, considered gas to be one of the main goals. precisely the struggle against israel and, in general, against the jews as such, that is , it is deeply such not only pro-islamist, but a right-wing radical, judeophobic movement , they even have such a slogan, but we see that this

is the first echo of the conflict between israel and palestine, which has gone beyond the borders of that particular region, that is, it is not lebanon that is attacking israel, although there are some clashes there, but not on the same scale as the war of 2006... and here iran just played with its muscles a little, first of all, iran is playing with them specifically in the persian gulf, and this, by the way, has now caused an appropriate reaction from the arab countries, despite there is some friction with the united states, for example, qatar now continues the presence of the american military in ukraine, that is, it is clear that without the american presence there, iran will become very , very strong, and this agreement between saudi arabia and iran on... also in some ways this war, well, not to be questioned, but conditions have been created in which, perhaps, everything will be completely different, although

saudi arabia itself, despite the fact that they once fought against the houthis, did not fight very successfully, let's be honest, it has refrained from any direct interventions for the time being, although it has supported the actions of this coalition , that is, here somewhere, such a... belt is unfolding where iran, despite sanctions, despite significant restrictions, still tries to exert pressure, and to exert pressure very satisfactorily, not only in lebanon, but also not only in the persian gulf, we can also see here in yemen, that is it was such a demonstration of force that in the event of which iran can in principle create a threat up to the complete closure of the babelmandep strait, which essentially connects the red sea with the indian ocean and through which ... , this is the key trade route of the world in general, and therefore here

well, iran is in the position of such a beneficiary, which, in spite of everything, holds on and somewhere also calls for appropriate dialogue, appropriate reactions and tries to take into account interests, and probably the situation will move to the persian gulf when iran moves there. then tankers, there is now a dispute between iran and the united arab emirates, because the emirates claim three islands there, the islands are not so important there, but the oil deposits nearby, that is, this is such a long-term game that is already ongoing in the region many years, and positions only one of those pages in this whole game. and tell me, please, i understand correctly, mr. mykhailo. that in fact the state of south yemen, which was once founded before the unification of the two parts of yemen, is recreated, governed by a parallel government, and does not

take any part in these stories, because we saw that they bombed. with the soviet union, no one touches , remarkably, their ideology was even proclaimed scientific socialism, well , it's not bad enough there now, mr. mykhailo, we have problems with communication, and i am now very much asking my colleagues to get in touch with mykhailo.

our our discussion about southern yemen he is now? well, he is, but he, he is essentially an emirati proxy, but since the emirates are in much better relations with the west than iran, then he is a territory under the control of the west, despite the fact that it is not very populated, but the problem is that , that the khosyites walk through the port, yes, and that border of saudi arabia has access to the red sea. moreover, there are islands there, according to the narrowest part of it as well, and they can easily get out of there by some even, well, relatively primitive means of defeat to attack civilian shipping, and the island of sohotra, in particular, is almost under the direct control of the emirates, because there is a military base of the emirates, but another issue is that due to a certain effort to maintain the balance of power, the emirates are not

ready for a serious war there, but they are zatsi'. involved in the strikes of the coalition, of course, in order to weaken the hosts, another issue is that there are really not only external factors, in fact, the so-called hadramout yemen, these are two parts of yemen itself , that is, the north and the south - this is a long war, which began after the fall of the imamate regime in yemen in 1962, and then the soviet union, accordingly, many different regional separatists invested there as well. mr. michael, very briefly and finally, i have to ask what the escalation of the confrontation between the sunni and shia world in general will mean for the region, this confrontation is going on, in fact it has been going on for a long time, different lines are going, but now there are a lot of pro-islamic movements, such as hamas or islamists, even such as the same houthis, they are trying to appeal to

of such... pan-arab solidarity or even pan-islamic solidarity, for example, hamas emerged from the muslim brotherhood as a sunni movement, and this does not prevent it from maintaining relations with hezbollah and iran, similarly, the houthis belong to moderate shiism, to zaydism, but they also try to appeal to the slogans of arab nationalism and to islamism as such. broad meaning, that is why there are a lot of movements here, which are now sunni and shiite, they understand that a purely confessional identity does not bring the desired results, and under the slogans of such, you know , islamic unity, they are trying to sell to wide sections of the population very different kinds of projects of such, well, supposedly global importance, considering the poverty of yemen, it is

the poorest arab country. and dependence on humanitarian aid, on various forces, in principle, this happens very often, so they have no problems with the mobilization of new forces. thank you, mykhailo yakubovych, orientalist, candidate of historical sciences, researcher at the oriental studies department of the university of freiburg from germany, was in touch with us. we're going to take a short break now, but we'll be back, so stay tuned. my greetings, i am namelnik and this is news. in the morning , the russians shelled the village of stanislav in the kherson region, a residential building and an outbuilding caught fire, the state emergency service said.