but i’m taking your time, you can’t say anything, we can say, viktorovych, you just mentioned leitzig, borussia, but they, let’s put it this way, don’t raise players, they take them somewhere on the rise and bring them to the conditions are good, which is why, for example, dynamo kyiv does not do the same, it mainly sells only its own students, but we have such statistics, there are the most profitable academies in the world, and there is neither borussia nor leibse, but benfica traditionally leads , then ajax, lyon, real madrid. chelsea, for example, ukrainian teams, here shakhtar is in 43rd place with 130 million in 10 years of income, dynamo kyiv is 82 million in 70th place, simply if you divide these 130 million miners by 10 years, it is 13 million per year, it is so supportive, but not for profit, so only on your own pets, well, you won't get far. oleksandr, yes, i am familiar with these statistics, i analyzed them, there are a number of nuances, for example, why does ajax

sell a lot, they cook beautifully, they do not have oil and gas, they do not have the opportunity to have sponsors , which are hundreds of millions of euros each they invest, they have to train players, and what about all of them, let's say, they all live in amsterdam, no, from all over the world, just like that, alexander correctly said that, let's say, players. from different regions , they come from different regions, here, i will give the example of barcelona, ​​and why do we not see barcelona, ​​that it sells a lot, but it prepares players for itself, la masia works for them, they do not want to sell, they want to prepare, there is a whole complex of different reasons, both political and economic, they count better invest pennies in training a player in barcelona's system of play, and... the training

of players is identical to the way barcelona play, barcelona cannot change their style, they will change the coach sooner, the same if you don't play three strikers in ajax, you will be changed, you are obliged , it is written in your contract, that's why ajax and barcelona , ​​if they prepare for themselves, remember, under vangal, they won everything, and and, and then they started selling, why , and the money has to be taken from somewhere, not only that, but what about such a club, i think, well... fans, that there is no one there can have controlling stakes, it is impossible, it is a completely different club, like a people's club, that's why one sponsor, like man city or paris saint-germain, cannot come and take, barcelona prepares players for themselves, they are interested in agavi , the pedris were with them to rent yamal, sorry not yamal, they asked for yamal, they did not give yamal, later. that he is young and

they sent a number of players out on loan so that they come back after getting game practice, these are different things, real, real no, real counts, we are a royal club, we have to play the best the players of the world, well, they say , we will take holland, if they do not take holland, then it is unrealistic, firstly, holland is comfortable there, secondly, mancity, well, let's say this, has such finances that they are not going to give it away, we will take mbp, they will not take mbp. b gave his word that he will play in paris saint-germain and he is comfortable there and so on and so on. why benfica, portuguese clubs need to be sold just as economically, they are specifically preparing players for sale, and ajax is also not going anywhere now, you look at how many players they sold, and you need a budget, somehow you need to, yes, if you play successfully in the champions league, successfully, and if you are not a champion, feynor is a champion. we

remember where maryno pušichych was an assistant, worked as an assistant, the two of them created this winning team, so let's go to shakhtar for dynamo, er, i would try to say for shakhtar in the following way, shakhtar has had a vector of foreign coaches for more than two dozen years, does this club have the right, of course it does, and why not, whoever pays the money orders the music, this is a normal situation all over the world. yes, the management decides, it's normal , it gives results, yes, navio skala led shakhtar to the first championship, the other coaches did a great job, you, you probably know better than me, i'm sure, here we don't say for the fact that mircha luchevskyi 12 worked for years and won the european cup, every coach worked well, that's why the portuguese coaches worked, because there were many brazilians in that system and they need them... this is not accidental,

it is systematic, it indicates that the management is preparing for a change quite seriously coaches, this is an italian coach, yes. a capable italian coach who is currently coaching brighton, what questions, this is good, now let's see why they didn't sell, and say that zinchenko malinowski would be worth a little money if they played in the first team, and how could they play in the first team in the lineup, when you have matozalema, fernandinho, yaya toure and sokim, there are great players there, you don't have tyson, all the others, you don't have the opportunity to play, you have to be objective. to understand, not to say, but shakhtar did not give opportunities, gave opportunities at the children's and youth level, at the academies, gives opportunity , but it is quite difficult to compete at an adult level, and what do you think, mourinho, when he worked in chelsea, and not he gave salah on loan, and not he

gave kevin de bruyne to germany on loan, then salah also moved to roma, then to liverpool , kevin de bruyne, one of the best dispatchers in the world, didn't he see that... very talented, very talented, of course, he saw, that's why he gave the opportunity, and didn't pep guardiola give zinchenko the opportunity to go to the netherlands the first year and have constant game practice. by the way, if we are in favor we say to sasha zinchenko, he is the only ukrainian legionnaire who does not play in his position, the only one, why? and so it turned out, he got into the system, let's say, satiated, i call it, guardiola arteta. great technique , zinchenko is suitable, here, but the selection of players in the positions that sasha plays in the national team is his native position, and that is why they started a hybrid scheme in relation to sasha from the position of left defender, he is not a left

defender, why deceive , and he knows it, i know it, you all know, he is a great dispatcher, from him, he cuts everyone better like butter with a knife through the layers of a group of players. in the arsenal, he played the same way for man city, guardiola and arteta use him in this way in a good way, because of him, arsenal could already become the champion last year, it was almost not enough, this year they are also fighting for the championship, but when you have kevin debrune, gün dagan, both silvas, fernandinho, rotry, you won't get there, but obeg edegore is playing there now. they would still recruit players from the england national team, there are different, i won't say all of them, there format it's really not enough, here, well, sashko understands the fact that when we are without the ball, i am more in the position of the left defender, if i am with the ball, i immediately go to my central zone and at the expense of me we

will get a huge advantage, super, he's a great guy, he's a characterful guy, disciplined, but in the national team, of course, his main position is right there. malinovsky, malinovsky also wanted to play in shakhtar, just like zinchenko, but i already said that there was no such opportunity, and of course, he went to belgium, they offered him an option, he showed himself brilliantly. then he moved to atalanta in serie a, he showed himself brilliantly there, it's great, well, listen, you won't play all the time on the rise, just the head coach, atalanta, like each of us. well, each of us coaches have their own, you know, nuances, uh, for example, he wants all players to pick up the ball and play individually, they have central defenders rise, play individually with the attacker, well

, listen, such a conflict, you remember, i was with gomez, gomez had to go into civil service, and there was such a conflict with malinovsky, he was not hyped like that, but he refers to leaders. not rebuilding the team game, but you have to work with this player, this is a problem for all players, that's why the rotation in these positions of atalanta, look, is very big, and boga has moved, and many, many people have moved, it's not just that, therefore, you need to understand that both shakhtar and dynamo are preparing kovalenko, and kovalenko was one of the leaders, remember, and he got into the national team, it depends on him. and whether he will return to the national team again, he is a pupil of shakhtar, whether he will return to the national team, whether he will believe or play in the top team, only from him , no one scores for a long time, no one plays for gypsy, for each of the players every day, if you are a legionnaire, you have to prove your worth,

dynamo kyiv is the same, look, yarmolenko came through borussia dortmund, west ham, united, then went to serhii rebrov. let's say like this, he played quite successfully, he returned to kyiv dynamo, then yarmolenko left, and tsygankov began to play in his position in kyiv dynamo, here. and i can say that oleg husiv, buyarsky and others could not they couldn't go abroad and dynamo would have done it, but dynamo and the players and the management decided that they are from dynamo and they will serve dynamo with faith and truth . sides of the medal, there is the croatian national team, some want us to strive for it, that a bunch of legionnaires in europe and... are showing good results, but there is another side, the norwegian national team, there are just

holland gathered there now, which almost won the golden m 'yach, leader arseno edehor, a bunch of good players, but they could not go to the euros at all before the euros, what do you think about it, maybe some balance between the legionnaires and the domestic championship should be maintained, well, we have perhaps the most talented generation in the period of ukraine's independence, so now is the time... we have a balance, i.e. the backbone of the national team plays in the top championships and most of them in top clubs, and other national teams who claim to move to the top championships are now in leading roles in our giants who are fighting for the championship title, but things have changed a little now is the time the last two years, just somewhere for football players, maybe this is a push, maybe this is an impulse to grow and for our national team , first of all, to give the strongest results, just now there are some questions about the rebrov series... about what we were waiting for three years, and absolutely little

has changed in the approach, in the game itself, perhaps serhiy rebrov had little time to prove himself both to him and to his coaching staff, i suggest that we talk about the national team there after a short break, we will now have pause, and wait, because it's always about the national team it's interesting and i think the opinions will be very radical, see you, vasyl zimi's big broadcast, two hours. of air time, two hours of your time, two hours to learn about the war and what the world is like, two hours to keep up with economic news and sports news, two hours in the company of favorite presenters, presenters who have become likeable to many, as well as respected guests of the studio, the events of the day in two hours, vasyl zima's big broadcast, a project for smart and caring people, espresso in the evening. this is a football format, let's keep talking about... and the beginning of the year, we analyze the expectations of what awaits us, we will do this

together with andrii malinovskyi and vyacheslav viktorovich grozny, the honored coach of ukraine. vyacheslav viktorovych, this topic is the national team of ukraine, expectations of rebrov, this match from england with rotan. what is your opinion about all this? in my opinion, uh, the national team of ukraine has real potential to play. at euro-24 and she will be there, i am sure that we will beat the bosnians on march 21, and then on the 26th in poland, in wroclaw, the winner of the pair israel-iceland, uh, we really have, andriy is right, we have a pretty good generation, here, and alexander, and you also said that each country goes its own way, if croatia chose a way long ago. that, let's say, the best players should go outside of croatia and then

all together perform successfully, but we remember them at the world cup for performing quite decently at one, at another, so it gives results, here, there is another way, where the progress of the players of the norwegian national team, there iceland and others. we remember, gives the opportunity to perform for a short period of time, it is certain that the players should play in the top championships, and the fact that we have at least four national teams playing in the a series, in the a-league, here , in the epl, in the aliza, and in the a series malinovskyi, kovalenko, i'm not saying that benfica, trubin, our goalkeepers, by the way, are very strong and... we see in real madrid, in benfica, few people can afford to

train players so seriously. goalkeepers, according to the national team, in my opinion, the rib national team, which he led in june, played a more elegant match with germany, someone would say, an exhibition match, listen, the german national team must play well, here we played 3:3 and played quite successfully. a draw with the england team, we remember, a great match, we remember, both matches with the italians played quite decently, and in the first match, the italians. zero higher goals , realized, but with a minimum, a maximum, in the second half they did not give a penalty to the goal of the italian national team, as, by the way, earlier, when the national team was led by petrakov, they did not give a penalty to yarimolenko, we also remember, and now we we will play the qualification, we will pass, i think that we almost have a chance

to every talented ukrainian player. to be on the staff of the national team, well, it all depends on you, how you play, it doesn't matter where you are, what team you play for, in which tournament, if you show a serious level of play, you are given a chance, well, we see that the players have grown seriously, for me we spoke for pyhalonka, and i would also say for sudakov, for me sudakov is a dispatcher who will be a leader like kevin debruy in his team, should sudakov most likely go to a team like juventus or not? that's why i'm there now i don't see such players, as soon as he will play in the starting lineup there, the management always needs to analyze, not only how much money they will earn there, but you need to analyze how the player will be, you need to think about him, you need to watch, if you give in that team where there are three or four very strong players in your position, what is the point

of sending a player there, you always have to think, if they told me, let's go to barcelona, ​​to barcelona... the selection of players, in this position, but not in juventus, in the series and he will feel comfortable playing there, sudakov, he is progressing very seriously, in a short period of time he made, well, let's say, made great progress, someone, for example, says, but the wise man was the leader of the miner, but there is no way the game can play in chelsea, well, first of all, i as a coach i don't look at it that way at all, but why was he comfortable in the miner? and the game was built for him, and dear his opening, he was served, and so was mykhailo, dear opening, the correct opening, it was priyovyevichi, it was necessary to be objective and speak priyovyevichi and sudakov, and this whole group of players who helped the national team get to the olympic games, these young guys are talented and made it to

the national team, they all got a lot of experience when ihor jovichevich was the head coach. it's true , you always have to give credit to everyone, including the coach and the player, when the player moved to chelsea, mykhailo moved, yes, of course, everyone understands, he is a player of the national team, there are no questions, but in my opinion there have already been three coaches that period, at least, each of the coaches had different philosophies, there was, you remember, a situation that he could in arsenal could be in chelsea, yes, in principle, chelsea. a good club for him, if they serve like that, he will have that playing time and adapt to pochettino's pronouncements, he will progress, you don't have to jump to conclusions, you have to be patient, here, i believe that he will play like that, how he plays in the national team, and remember against north macedonia, he gave two

assists and we won 3:2 from 0:2, and in other matches he gives great assists, he trains with players who do that, he is progressing, and zander, zander he already knows how to do it, you understand, bondarenko is progressing, progressing very well, in my opinion, the team performed quite decently, i can say that, they could have taken no points from the north macedonia team, they could have none, they took six, they could take two points, they could four, you have to be... strange before the matches, you know how they watch, and we will pass this national team, and why, don’t people there know how to play, they know how to play, they play in european teams, that’s not all, don’t forget that the national team of north macedonia did not allow the champions of europe to play at the championship of the world, having passed, as i said, and i told you , and even now i believe that the finalists,

european champions, world champions, finalists automatically without selection by... should participate in all forums further, the european champion should not play in qualifying games for the world cup and should not play qualifying games for the european championship, then what nonsense, they already proved that they are the best in europe, why should they do it, that is , the officials should change how they see now, they add 15 minutes of time, yes why do you add net time in football, don't invent anything, all game sports except volleyball, where the number of points is fixed, so on... all with net time, why is there no in football, well, it is connected with corruption, and everyone understands that the whistle is given according to the referee's opinion, but why according to his opinion, and not to the chronometer, which is there? and so on and so on for the national team, i am an optimist and i can say very well that a large group of players play for in the top championships, it is very cool, cool,

yes, and great players play for us and in our ukrainian teams, we want the fans to be there, we want this evil spirit to be driven away from our ukrainian land as soon as possible and to restore the football that existed when shakhtar, dynamo, metalist, dnipro could win. all four teams could win the eurocup almost at the same time, in any case, we have talented guys, talented youth, good coaches, and by the way, i will tell you for the coaches, i think that few people spoke for it, and maybe no one said, we have, you know, as they say, got a license, give it to me i have a chance to work, yes, for one second , in order for you to get a chance, you have to understand for yourself, just in case, pep guardiola is two years old, and luis endrico, who is now paris saint-germain, is coaching

the spanish national team, barcelona, ​​he barca athletic was coached for three years, that is, in fact a double, lamasia, barca athletic, then, ahabi alonso, who is working brilliantly now, with bayrel leverkusin, by the way, yesterday, literally at the last minute, they scored the decisive goal. i like the football they play, he is quite a progressive coach, just in case, he worked with the youth of realos skidat for several years and three years, and if i give you dozens more examples, including marino pushych, who is now the head of the miner, he also coached, adenhad in manchester united, he coached bayern u2 and various teams events u17, u-19, and thiago mota has worked for several years with the youth of u-19 paris saint-germain, so those who say, give us a team, they are lying, they just don't know it, like most of those who are here now they

are watching us, they don't know that the majority coaches who became famous, they , let's say, went through children's and youth football, didn't ryabrov work with the youth of dynamo kyiv, that's how most coaches worked, why is this foundation needed? first of all, it can be seen whether you have the makings for coaching work, whether you can do it or not, this is very important, not everyone succeeds, you have to be both a teacher and a psychologist, and they grow, and you can see how you can individually approaching each of them is not accidental, the same guardiola worked there for two years, right? it's just like that, no, and only when the management saw that he has abilities, is growing, progressing, has a philosophy, they give the first team, and many, i give lectures, many do not give me a chance to work , i say, go work with the children and show what you can do, otherwise we will give you all at once, give us kyiv dynamo, miner,

give us all, but no, show what you can do, show your philosophy, what you can do, speaking with a tongue is one thing, but you show who has grown in you, at least one player, let him grow, that's why i, oleksandr and andriy, let's say this, look optimistically at the fact that we are on june 14. we will play, the group is decent enough here, i think, there is a chance for us to play well there as well, well, we must always be optimistic, you are optimists, i am just as optimistic, we have good players, good, really good players, and young people , the youth is growing, the youth is advancing quite seriously, advancing quite seriously, competing quite seriously, this and that is nice, look, that's actually the case, we really want the national team to go to the european championship, to be on... to play in the olympics, but the other day, during the week, there was the european figure skating championship, and our figure skater ivan shmuradko performed there, he took 14th place, but he is now being talked about in europe more than the prize-winners, because he

came out and put a symbolic number , how about blood on the chest, and now they are talking about this uniform, just remember how they talked about the ukrainian uniform at euro 2020, maybe right now we need to think about what uniform to do, what performances to do at these forums, competitions in europe, at the olympics , what about us... more talked about in the context of war aid? the question is really, we can't just separate sport from life, it's impossible, really , we have a war, an aggressor attacked us, racists kill people every day, it's impossible, the whole world should know this, i fully support, fully support the movement, who does not shake hands, well done, i also read everything, i am really sure that officials of a serious level are thinking about these options, oleksandr, about which you

said, i agree. it is important, of course, to get to the euros, we will get to the olympic games on july 24, which will begin, we have already made it, and on february 8 we will tell your football viewers about the draw of the league of nations, just in case, and on february 15-22, shakhtar will play two matches with marseille in the europa league, one of them will be in hamburg, god willing , very nice, and on the 24th ukrainian premier league, 18th round. and then on the 21st-26th already the national team, thank god, we really hope it will pass, we gave them with you to orientate themselves, then they think, winter is there, and the second point, the championship is interesting in ukraine, it’s true, interesting, look, interesting championship, but we only have a minute left, that's why i want to show these shots, which were kindly provided to us by the zhytychi volleyball club, in volleyball

, spectators have already been allowed to attend matches of the championship of ukraine, so i want to. well, while we see these shots, there are spectators, there are not many of them, but they are there , we expect the same, it will probably be in football, andriy, we have a minute, finalize it, please, well, let's keep an eye on it, it's the transfer period, let's keep an eye on the transfers, we're getting ready together with our football players, because the upl clubs are starting training, who is where abroad, it is clear that, because it is impossible to prepare in ukraine now , and not only due to weather conditions, so in a week we will analyze exactly the news that will be during this week, and we understand that it will be full of sports events. vyacheslav viktorovych, today we just touched on a bunch of topics that we had to discuss, i think next time we will talk more about transfers, because there were few transfers in all upl, we hope that in a week or two there will be more, and we will join you on the air again and talk more evil and so structured specifically for each player, for each club. so , with you were vyacheslav viktorovich grozny, honored coach of ukraine, andrii malinovskyi, this is a leading football expert, and i, oleksandr vlaschuk, see you

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guests today are valery chaly and andrii pionkovskyi. valery chaly, ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary, ambassador of ukraine to the united states in 2015-19, will be working on the espresso tv channel. glory to ukraine, sir ambassador, i congratulate you. i congratulate you, glory to the heroes. well, there are two processes going on. on the one hand, ukraine is trying to obtain the appropriate amount of weapons and funding, on the other hand, a large forum in davos is approaching. we understand that our issue is on the agenda. at the head, well, you said about the forum in davos, let's start with that, it is still a forum where traditionally it started with the fact that business is gathering, and such large forces of an economic nature determine their actions, well, they say for the future, but at least a year ahead, so for several months there has been an idea circulating among the business community that it would be desirable to predict

that the hot phase of the war between russia and ukraine would end somewhere by the middle of the summer, that is, they had such a reasoning, i will tell you , it was possible around the time when the president of ukraine volodymyr zelensky visited new york, he also had meetings with big business there, and after that information appeared in the american media that the dates just appeared, well i also confirm... with facts, this is because the international monetary fund planned the so-called ae financing plan until july 15 of this year, but now it seems to me that exactly these forecasts will be discussed, this correction in relation to the time frame of the war, that is, there will be an economy, but an economy that will be based on many