for several months, there has been an idea circulating that it would be desirable to predict whether it would happen that the heated phase of the war between russia and ukraine would end sometime before the middle of the summer, that is, they had such a reasoning, i will tell you, it was possible around when the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi , visited new york, he also had meetings with big business there, and after that there were... information appeared in the american media that the dates appeared exactly, well, i confirm with the facts this, because the international monetary fund planned the so-called funding plan until july 15th of this year, but right now it seems to me that what will be discussed are these forecasts, this correction in relation to the time frame of the war, that is, there will be economics, but economics that will be based on a lot of... geopolitics, and i think

that it will be difficult to do even for such influential shadow business structures, large funds, hedge funds, there, because there is no complete certainty so far in those countries that they cannot, but have not been able to control now or have a serious influence there them, therefore, in principle. the part that will regarding the general davos, it will not be completed in terms of forecasts, well, plus there will be a ukrainian initiation part, a meeting on the peace formula, yes, that is, also what the un people are already talking about, their representative was hysterical, what will be such a format, but without russia , what kind of meeting is this without russia, this shows that this is a step in the right direction, what the result will be, we will see, perhaps not immediately after the delivery, but... as a result of decisions on

the supply of weapons to support ukraine, that is, in fact, this a place where many influential people from different fields will meet, and it is obvious that this is an opportunity for ukraine's position to show more clearly both our vision and our capabilities. there is a public side, it is very clearly declared, everything is clear to everyone, on the other hand, you rightly noted that there will be no russia, no one invites it to davos, in general... it does not participate in the discussions of the peace formula, because it is the direct culprit and the aggressor, but the parameters of what will be discussed at davos in the context of the so- called peace formula. this is our ukrainian initiative, and as i understand it, the idea of ​​president volodymyr zelenskyi to give a new one push for more countries to get involved, countries, well, people from all over the world come to davos. i think that there are hardly any interruptions. there will still be, because, well, based

on the fact that the first position in this formula, not the first in terms of importance, but maybe also in terms of importance, is the de-occupation of the territories, and by the 91st year of the borders, well, that is, it is obvious that this position which must be completed in order to move on. i think it would be desirable to discuss the clause which is so vaguely set out in the peace formula, that is what concerns security guarantees, well, i know that... the meeting our government conducted in relation to this position on nato, i hope that it will also be used to promote the very idea of ​​how to provide a security umbrella, not only for ukrainian citizens, but also for that international business that will invest in ukraine after the deoccupation, that is, whose investments must be protected physically , including from any attempts of russian provocations in the future, they will not end with

the occupation of the territories, therefore, in principle, i do not put any expectations on it, to be honest, because many things now is definitely not successful, and our expectation that something will be resolved somewhere, for us or behind ukraine, is not an expectation, but someone has fears, someone has expectations, this is not really the case, that is not how decisions are made, and ukraine is enough... subjective in order to talk about the fact that our fate is not decided by hand, well, that's for sure, it is decided, not even in washington and not in brussels, it is decided in ukraine, first of all, and while ukraine is subjective , it so happened, in a strange way, that the maximum subjectivity is ukraine received during a full-scale war, when the factor of the armed forces of ukraine and the defense forces, and capable... of stopping a nuclear state, well

, at least one of the two most powerful in the world, let's not say, nuclear states, indicates the increase of ukrainian subjectivity. by the way, that is reflected even in the ratings of our military strength. ukraine rose several positions in the international rankings this year, that is, we will expect the next one, i think, we will be even higher. well, in any case, we understand that subjectivity needs foreign aid, and wanted you to analyze the dynamics currently observed in the united states, in particular with the allocation of macrofin for ukraine, this is also an issue directly related to security. aid, in particular supplies, ammunition, artillery systems and so on and so on, and the key story is that a new factor has appeared, which is being discussed extremely powerfully in the united states, in particular it is about the transfer of frozen russian assets to ukraine, we understand that this is a total war, total

it is meant that now russia is trying to force it to capitulate, that is, it is a constant idea for them, they do not believe in this in principle. precisely by putting pressure on the fact that ukraine cannot withstand as a smaller country, as a country, well , three times smaller in population, and on the territory it cannot withstand such pressure, and in this version, in this situation, partner aid, in particular regarding these critical payments in the social sphere, it is really very important, but you know, first of all, i don't think that even in the worst case scenario, if not there will be... american money there, in package 61.4 - it is 11.7 billion, if i am not mistaken, which the ukrainian government is counting on, in general, according to their statements, the government needs somewhere up to 30.9 billion annual foreign income, then i

think that you can find, of course, other mechanisms, they may not be so pleasant, it is clear that this is inflation, this is a certain printing of the hryvnia, or , for example, some other economic reasons, but this is not a catastrophe, moreover, i think that in our , despite the war, there is a way to rearrange priorities so that, for example, you do not spend money on capital construction, i honestly don't understand at all, in the 14th year , a government decree was passed, er, which forbade any repair work or the purchase of cars, let's say, yes, it was. when, in principle , the war was not on such a scale as it is now, but this resolution, i remember very well how it was implemented, and now it has become easier, and we continue to build some new buildings, they even say about the subway,

buy machines, not those for the front , but for the internal ones use, even government institutions, and after that to convince the foreign... republicans that we don't have money, well , literally, at nikki haley's debate with desantes last week, there was a debate, and desantes said with direct text that your money is american taxpayers go into the pockets of ukrainian bureaucrats, literally , and we understand that in ukraine, we don't spend money on this, because everything in the army goes to the front, by the way, i don't know what decision and why... so it was decided that ukraine cannot, that for, that the west cannot with we are looking for aid money to send, if everything is oriented correctly, nevertheless , if there is external help, then we will send more to the defense of the country, yes, more funds and to de-occupation, so the issue is not

closed even with this package of american aid, when it will be, i said a long time ago that earlier from january, the end of january, the beginning. it will not be a decision in february, moreover, now it is tied to the dates of the primaries, well, everyone is waiting for the primaries, these primaries are the primaries where it will be determined who will be the republican candidate, the main the fight will be between these primers at the end of the month, between donald trump and nikki haley, that is, most likely between them, and after cruz has taken off. from the race, then most likely these votes will leave no alien desantis, so in new hampshire they do not want to make any drastic decisions before new hampshire, at the same time they are moving along the track of adopting the budget in general, on may 2

they have to adopt virtually the entire us budget by the third well, you see, i'm sorry, it's not may, february, february, that is, it's somewhere... and on march 5, holy tuesday, this is more than 800 votes of the voters in the usa distributed in the primaries of many states and caucuses, that is , the republicans want to drag out this... story until march, but the white house still wants to, well, as i understand it, the meeting of the supreme court, which will finally decide on the admission of donald trump to the elections, and so on, everything is intertwined in this and all these factors, which should give us an answer sometime in early february, now the answer is that if there is a 61.4 package, there will be and what you ask the financial track, which is called, not only budget funds, but also for energy, for the development of some projects, additional funds for assistance in reforms, well, there is not only

military money, yes, not only for armaments, there is a large package, and this will then be a signal , what about others, well, the kremlin and, for example, the germans, what can be said about the taurus missile, that there is a possibility of deoccupation and changing the course of the war, if this does not happen, then the disaster will not happen, because the usa with... everything will be the same to help, moreover, 300 million is already unlocked, i understand, because nda, they voted, this is the defense budget for the 24th year, that is , there will still be at least 300 million for two such current tranches, well, you see, they are allocating somewhere around 150-250, until the end of the year, that is, for another couple of months, well, they didn't still supply weapons to all of ukraine, but you 're right. the issue is a financial signal , it will be bad, because our government

speaks in a strange way, for example, i heard an official statement that then salaries will have to be postponed, there will be a payment in a month, delusional, i say again, delusional, the government was created to search solution, and not transfer the problems to international partners, well, it's not, you can't do this kind of government, no other government can, that is, these explanations are very strange. we can't, i will have to pay salaries, i have encountered this, by the way, even when i was working for the ambassador, when they told me that there are no salaries for january, i say that, what is it written down, where do you write it down, that you do not have payments to diplomats for january, well, yes, mr. ambassador, this has always been the case every year, you just encountered this first, i say it will not happen, i am the responsible person, i am writing you a statement, and i am filing a lawsuit against you that you do not pay the salaries of the employees, you know , you paid them, all of them were paid by the embassy, ​​but in the usa

they paid them, and you know why, because we are used to this kind of injustice of a civil servant, that is, he constantly raised his hand, because you are in the civil service, so you have nothing like that with everyone, there is work efficiency, there is no such option, look for another one, but they cannot be from this, first of all, the people who yes... are now giving results for the defense of the country will suffer, and secondly, well, you can't, go and give it to others, that's all, that's why i'm taking so long said, because our logic must change, we must not see the results of the war only in whether the west will help us, it changes not just the results of the war, but how long it will last, it changes the course, it changes the intensity. this changes our options for rapid de-occupation, but it does not affect

the basic decision in ukraine, which has been officially announced, that ukraine will not surrender. we understand that now on the battlefield the ukrainian army is also, well, in the situation in which we were about a year and a half ago, in particular by the number of artillery shells and not only them, well and accordingly also, maybe this is a conspiracy, maybe not, but there is a feeling that it is possible, at least... in this way to influence the intensity of the war at our expense, simply by not supplying, the debate about taurus continues it’s been more than a year, the story about the f-16s, which keep flying in and flying out, is also not new, we understand that all the schedules are moving a little, if we talk about the situation, then i think that it is obvious to everyone that our strategy of ukraine and let’s say the us didn't quite match up from the start. that is, the us strategy designed to contain the war within

the territory of ukraine so that it does not spread to nato countries, let's say, yes, that is, this is a position, well, i understand, we are not allies , and they are allies there, and the second position is that they do not know what to do with russia , that's why they are very afraid, they were afraid of attacks on russia, yes, including their weapons, well, it's clear that in closed mode these discussions were constantly going on berlin-moscow, paris, moscow, washington moscow. that is, what they will not tell us, but this was all carried on in beijing, let's say, washington, well, the meeting was in san francisco, i think that there is such an agreement behind the back, behind the back. that to prevent nuclear escalation , putin was clearly told by the usa and china that it is impossible to cross a red line there in any case. and then there is such a constant positional struggle. roughly so, and it is said publicly, if you give taurus, we will start taking

weapons from china or north korea. well, for example, i tell you, so theoretically, well, that’s how they started, there are no taurus missiles, and korean ballistic missiles... it’s used, and that’s another story, and it’s a training ground for north korea, for these missiles, south korea knows very well that if the time to prepare these missiles and hit the south is reduced by times when you have the technical characteristics at the test site, and unfortunately we have a test site for them in this way, iran can also take advantage for ballistic missiles, so they understand it, begin to think, change their position, there must be a strategy correction. and in principle, this is a political decision, no matter what they say to me, there are atakams, remember, they said, we don't have enough atakams, we just don't have enough of them, and now materials suddenly appeared, they are written off, they are generally destroyed, well, what is this, what is this very alarming signal from the direction, this is a bad conversation with ukraine, at first you say that you do not have it, that is what he is saying honestly, well, at least germany has started to act on - to another

, after all, chancellor scholes first came up with reasons, whatever they want, now they say... in plain text, well, a strange explanation, taurus won’t help you, but after all, it’s not what they say there, you don’t have experience , you don't have that, that, so it's called this or that the war of escalation regulation, yes , or the regulation of dynamics, they did not succeed in this, moreover, this regulation did not help us very much in our attempt to deoccupy last year, it did not help much, because we stood out... only replacement weapons, what was enough in their understanding for an attack, yes, there was something in one direction, as they thought in the south, that would be enough, well , excuse me, that’s not how wars are waged, that is, well, that’s definitely not how they are waged, they understand it now, a lot of criticism has gone , that this is a dropwise dosage of 30 avrous tanks, that

will do 30 avroos tanks, well, it was important to unlock the german supply, yes , i understand, but if... you are betting on the result, you need to concentrate all the supplies now in the coming months, and several hundred missiles, these are not long-range missiles, this missiles that we will be allowed to hit on the territory of ukraine, even well, we can make a strange decision, yes, when we promise not to fire missiles at russia there, well, it is generally some kind of delusion, because, well, just now they have just started to change their position. our partners, why no, well, what kind of question is this, if they constantly strike strategic bombers on our territory, and we do not have the opportunity to cover the same base, well, i am not talking about bombers, because they take off far away, but specifically they strike in kharkiv with missiles that are intended for anti-aircraft

missiles, there are s-300s, they hit people in kharkiv, we have the right to cover during the war. they are there, that is, that here, and here is the source of supply, so i think that these games will end with this regulated escalation will finally end, or maybe on the contrary it will the case is prolonged, and actually this may be connected with the decrease of macrofin. i will tell you the key thing, which, what i told them with the facts, i will not disclose the details of our conversations, but i am sure that as soon as the situation in the... country hangs like this, well, that is, dynamic, constant trench warfare, but there is no movement , in this situation, because russia in defense 460,000 is standing on our territory, and it is being consolidated, despite the fact that we do not have the means of deoccupation, and they are concentrating on striking a nato country, parallel, not that

we are what they say, if, if ukraine loses, the next nato countries, no, the formula is different, ukraine will not... lose, ukraine in history, it will stretch then, but it will win, all the same, it will win, and you will be hit inflicted, that's what they underestimate, putin can strike a nato country during the war with ukraine, maybe, because look, i'm not claiming, but it's just that i don't have any secret information, but the first fact is that russia had plans to attack estonia, operational plans? were, this is a fact, i can confirm it, a fact, as an option, as scenario in 2013, and only by fate, by fate , it turned out that it was on us. they went, not to estonia. second, look at estonia, narva and this piece, how long does it take to occupy narva, 89% of russians live in narva,

that is, only 5% of estonians, how many, how many agents of the kgb or fsb are there, a lot. so, this piece, for, well, i'm not talking about hours, as they are about weeks, two or two or three days. kyiv, i say that it is absolutely realistic, without having a huge advantage in manpower there, to occupy and protest like nato will react to it. well, there is that question of finland, yes. and this is in the direction, this is there. they are creating this district now, they are transferring forces there very quickly. therefore, it is clear that their hands are itchy, they will hit there. it's just that ukraine is now from... but if you put ukraine in a defensive mode, well, because you won't provide weapons, then putin will release some of the forces and provoke there to

raise the stakes, so that later they can trade at the expense of of ukraine. this is the scenario, i think . i would like to ask you more about the powers of the presidential delegation, which will discuss the issue of security guarantees, so the powers, and in general, what are the parameters of what can be discussed. well, regarding the form, when last year in istanbul this document was from our side, i then publicly said that it is absolutely wrong, there is no delegation, no chapter, no presidential decree, no directives, now in this case everything went correctly, there are directives , they are secret delegations, well, the delegation is a bit strange, because there are few diplomats, well, as a rule... delegations for negotiations are formed from diplomats, there are either diplomats who have never been abroad, and have never

participated in negotiations at all, or simply the heads of law enforcement agencies, so it is if i perceive it more as giving weight to this delegation, well if, it is clear that it will not in such a composition , there will be no going to negotiations, conducting negotiations, that is, it will be simple... well , there will specifically be one or two people who will conduct some preparatory work there on behalf of andriy yermak, and accordingly, the head of the office will already discuss it directly that me worries here, worries about what it is called in relation to security guarantees, our partners categorically do not accept the word guarantees, and they throw out all agreements from the draft, and they know this in the president's office, the president's office explained that they... began to deny it in the president's office this, because it is true, but they said , well, there will be no assurances, as it was in the budapest memorandum, listen,

well, this is a stupid explanation, zhovko said there, there will be no assurance, so everything is fine, well, this is delusional, there will be no guarantees , already thrown out of of the draft guarantee agreement, this was publicly known, so there is no question of any guarantees, as, for example, last year in istanbul the agreement was called about... the neutrality of ukraine, yes, and the ukrainian side wanted it to be called about guarantees of some kind there, it was called how russia insisted on the neutrality of ukraine, and everyone who was in the delegation knows this, and is afraid to say it, and so on, that's why it's another story, why did i mention istanbul, just get the form right now regarding the important a question for ukraine, everything should be arranged according to the legislation, but really, well, there is a possibility of delegation. to also additionally include in the composition, to include experts, i think in this plan they will work, that is , it will work, as a parallel process,

the so-called plan b, yes, bilateral agreements, but unfortunately, if i knew that the u.s. will britain go to an agreement, now the british one is being seriously considered there, will they go to an alliance agreement, for example, joint defense, or for example, the location of bases on our territory. like now sweden is a signatory of the usa even before the membership of nato, then i would say yes, these are guarantees, and what is currently being discussed there is the same as what we have today, it will just provide for the future, the supply of weapons, the joint production of weapons, intelligence sharing, cyber security, it's also needed, but i don't understand why it's called the main track, where all our diplomatic, personnel, financial and all will go now. resource, in riyadh, what happened in december? i don't know, but secretly, still secretly, i know what different people from different countries told me, i

don't even want to comment on it. because i wasn't there and i don't want to distort information about an important situation for ukraine, it is necessary to communicate more now with those responsible for foreign policy, because the times when it was possible to say something like this are over , in the video message, nato said, there are many successes , the deputy prime minister, the head of the office, the minister, all constructive ideas, we are moving forward, what can i do with it, as the head of the organization and... and part of the advocacy network, what can i do in from the direction of nato, i heard something from these video messages, not a word, let's move forward , everything will be fine, i am the leader, i will prove everyone, well, it worked before, now we need to communicate , we need to explain our position in washington, what we will try to achieve, fully an invitation to nato or some new steps, that is, unfortunately, this communication is

not about that. meetings, what you said, maybe we had to do something secretly, but definitely not secretly our steps on the way to nato, so i would like you to combine the resources of society this year to achieve important foreign policy goals, if there is no understanding that five or six managers will not make ukraine successful in foreign policy, then there will be failure, if the president and his closest advisers understand that it is possible to attract their supporters, even if they ... are in the same bunker with you there, then this will be the result, and our enemy is even doing this now, our enemy has understood this, and we still want to achieve total war, victory, without using all the forces in the country, which only possible will use thank you very much, mr. ambassador, for this extremely important and interesting conversation, i want to remind our tv viewers that valery chalyi, ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary, ambassador

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of the states of the baltic states, lithuania, and latvia. estonia, and accordingly , semi-official statements are already beginning to appear. in particular , news arrived from estonia, so to speak, that it is ongoing a certain process when certain countries, representatives of the west, try to enter or intensify the so-called process of a possible truce, and they immediately emphasized, analyzing this situation, that this would be in putin's interests. in favor of the capitulation of ukraine comes from one source, it has always come from there, it is the so-called left-liberal wing of the democratic party, which controls all the so -called quality press. we have been receiving a stream of articles from the new york times, the washington post, the hill, news for several months now week, etc. allegedly, the counteroffensive failed, but what about you, the ukrainians didn't anyway?