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, i would like to start our today's analysis with an article or material from the editorial new york times, so they are quite, so to speak, meticulously trying to analyze the pentagon report, dedicated in particular to ukraine, and accordingly, it is about increased monitoring the use of defense goods supplied to ukraine, although there was no pentagon report. aimed at verifying whether ukraine used the weapons received from the united states as intended, yes, the purpose, verification of the relevant procedures, but they are starting to disperse what is called disinformation, you have a word, and of course, ah, the topic is very sensitive and the topic is very sensitive for our partners and for us, but to date, despite the fact that the russians have been trying
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to disperse this topic for two years, and in no case has any no improper disposal of weapons was recorded, and we saw these information attacks as early as 22nd year, the first time they appeared in the spring, ah, and then it was published that, in general , it was allegedly possible to buy haimars from us on olx or any -what, ah, not to mention the darknet, but not a single fact has been proven. it simply does not exist today, and as for the sensitivity of the topic, of course, and to partners and partners to their own voters, well, it is necessary to constantly report where it is all going, where it is happening, at the same time we understand that this is a war, and in principle, weapons are a consumable part in any war, but writing. journalists have and
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journalists write about it, the other thing is that the russians immediately ah, pick up any sensitive topic and try to develop some kind of discussion around it, pull it by the ears to conspiracy theories and everything else, but the further , the less they manage to do it, and in general, ah, well , these attacks are absolutely ridiculous, and... nevertheless, they draw attention to themselves and they draw attention to themselves, of course, they try to shift the emphasis, if we understand correctly, the new york times actually writes about the fact that there were not enough workers who could monitor the aid, but a lot of not, let's say, not conscientious people began to twist it, and write some kind of nonsense . there
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they underestimated some weapons by 1 billion, although in fact we were talking about the technical impossibility of tracking a certain amount of weapons there, and this is mainly, as far as i remember, we were talking about javelins, some such portable complexes, which are really difficult follow up, but look, you know what else i would like to ask you about these statements by putin about being ready for peace talks, because in fact, when they russians make such intrusions, they are trying to somehow show us in a bad light, look, here we are... we want to talk, we want to negotiate, but the ukrainians are so bad, they don't want to negotiate with us. please explain to our viewers what the russians are doing and what their goal is when they talk about it? well, the only goal of the russians today is it is to destroy the ukrainians, and any negotiations today or setting a conditionally pause in the war there is an opportunity for russia to accumulate, in principle, exhausted on... resources both human and
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combat, weapons, ammunition and anything else, in order to with the accumulated forces... to attack ukraine again, we saw it all in the 14th year, when it would seem that this frozen situation, it should lead to the fact that russia came to its senses, would understand what mistakes it made, but on february 24, 24 , 22, they clearly showed who they are and how they see russia's peace with ukraine in their fantasy. the only peace that can be is ukraine there as a part of russia, of course it does not suit us at all, and we will all, all hints to putin there, all the signals that he gives, this is absolute disinformation, this is an attempt
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to twist the situation, to gain time for himself in order to hit ukraine again, so i would not advise anyone to believe this even close. we do not believe, we do not believe the enemy, mr. andrii, but we would like to ask you what are the main narratives the enemy is trying to disperse, we understand that there are several directions , that is, what, well, i don’t know, is designed for our ukrainian consumer, what is designed for, for example, a european or american citizen, and, so to speak, the emissions are designed for politicians, both of the european union and the euro-atlantic communities in general, these are, of course, different cases, but about... to outline you with such broad strokes, so to speak, is all the kremlin lies. the biggest thing that is driving ukraine today is, of course, mobilization, and whole factories are working there cinematographers who shoot all kinds
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of videos there, whole editorial offices are looking for something similar, in the past years they have tried to pass off such videos there as fresh, which... but there were allegedly beaten, fought, women were allegedly there, well, in short, everything aimed at disrupt the mobilization in ukraine and sow doubt or discord within the civil society in ukraine, regarding this issue, and here of course the law that is currently being discussed about mobilization, this is their favorite topic, which they pursue on... sorry, mr. andriy, our domestic ukrainian actors are somehow involved in helping the enemy, consciously or unconsciously in dispersing these narratives, but there are such active characters, i don’t have names , no hints, but they actively work, get involved, here it is important to separate
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useful idiots from those who deliberately work for the enemy, and if the former can still be explained. conversations, then with others, well , the appropriate services should work and they should be responsible as for treason of the motherland, as for those who join the discussion, i advise such sensitive sensitive topics, well, nowadays they are very common. to use, because in fact, of course, the second year of the war continues, and there is a certain, such increased irritability of society, and such topics, of course, cause a resonance, but we must understand that the enemy
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is following this very carefully, and as soon as it turns out that such a story is organic in social networks, the enemy immediately jumps in there... repents with his own coordinated networks of inauthentic behavior and tries to disperse it as much as possible by creating a bubble from it, which has to cause a resonance, that is, consumers of information should think that this is a really huge discussion, there it is a huge problem, but in fact, in most cases, what we manage to discover is absolute synthetics, it's something... that is, today they can delve into artificial intelligence even in the comments in depth up to the fifth comment, and even you would not even guess that there is no one on that side, it is a bot, not the one who sits there at the computer somewhere in olgino in
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them and on other bot factories and conditionally alive a person there writes for ten or twenty, and this is simply generated by artificial intelligence. a mechanism that argues with you, that makes arguments, although really, well, you are playing the enemy by spreading the discussion. in that plane, where it simply does not exist, but what about the propaganda that they are trying to push to the europeans, americans, well, that is , to the external, not to the internal ukrainian consumer, to the external, which narratives are mainly being followed now, well, of course, this is fatigue from ukraine's aid, and the next the direction is the impossibility of ukraine winning this war there, and because of that peace negotiations, it is so... such a synthesis of several narratives, but all of them are aimed at the fact that
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the further our partners are from ukraine, the less understanding they have of the essence problems, that is, we are well understood by the balts there, we are well understood by the poles, czechs, that is, those who were once part of this aggressor state, they clearly understand that they cannot. you can't trust them in a dialogue when they try to talk to you from a position of strength, the further, the less understanding, and accordingly, this technology is not all that clear, it is trying to seep in, given that this year there are a huge number of elections in partner countries, we can see how many populists are trying to speculate on this... on the topic of ukraine, and what are the populists doing , there is no need to
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, well, prove something, there is no need to provide numbers, facts, there is enough, whoever hits higher plays better, that is, the louder you shout, well, the more faith you have in what for you can be voted out, and this factor, unfortunately, is this one of the big problems, but we systematically and calmly explain it. we are trying to prove all this based on digital expertise there, on the fact that the russians are deliberately creating information bubbles there, using our, our respectful attitude towards one of the basic values ​​such as freedom of speech. mr. andriy, one last question, it concerns the actual intensification of russian shelling, we know that the russians, when they actually report on... supposedly successful attacks, they very often lie about where their air targets were hit, and one of those
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lies was just a few days ago when there was the last mass attack, which our air force did quite well to eliminate, and in fact, i would like you to refute this statement about the alleged destruction of modern missiles that what exactly is this message of the propagandists about and why it does not correspond to reality. well, there was such information that they got into huge warehouses there, it seems, to the patriot, this was all denied by the relevant military authorities as of today day, we can only check and verify the information, there is no confirmation of such information, but as for who it is intended for, then most likely it is intended for russian. the consumer , because in reality, in most cases, they do not know and
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do not want to know where their missiles land, what is happening at the front, that is, these conditional konashenkos, who deliver bravado reports every day, then according to them, on the third day they destroyed all our aviation there for the fifth, everything that can be at the front, and after... a year after that, shoigu said that they are destroying planes again, that is, they absolutely do not even want to follow what they said yesterday, what they are saying today, this atmosphere of total lies has been created, it allows them to lie every day, they are leopards there they were destroyed when they were not yet in ukraine, there are f-16s, i don't know, probably several squadrons. destroyed in their fantasies, therefore they have to report
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victories to their own people, and in their absence, all victories in most cases are simply invented. thank you, andriy shapovalo, head of the center for countering disinformation at the national security council, was in touch with us, now we will have a few minutes' break, after which we will return to our studio, so stay with espresso. there are discounts on aquamaris of 15% in pharmacies plantain you and save. oh, and got wet. would you like some tea? mom, dad, what to do in order not to get sick? it is d3 zinc and the main one is quercitin to strengthen blood vessels. just take quertin immuno. all in one package. in one capsule, four components together. so simple, one capsule a day. so convenient. quertin immuno. bleeding and inflammation ash. my advice. lacal-active. lacal active actively overcomes bleeding gums, protects against periodontitis and visibly tightens. gums.
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january 10, a meeting was held with the families of defenders of ukraine who suffered as a result of a war crime at the coordination headquarters for the treatment of prisoners of war. of the russian federation, the volenivka colony, zaga, people died then, anna lobova, the initiator of the rodyn olenivka community, is in touch with us about this and other things. glory to ukraine, mrs. anna, we congratulate you, glory to the heroes, we can hear you well, yes, yes, yes, we hear you well, well, naturally would like to ask you to inform the viewers of espresso about the last meeting of the coordination headquarters. with the families of defenders who were in olenivka, yes, in the concentration camp organized by russia, where the russians committed a terrorist attack, as a result of which dozens of our captured fighters died. you have a word, and yes, on january 9
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, a meeting was held in the premises of the coordination headquarters for the treatment of prisoners of war, which was chaired by the head of the president's office... andriy yermak , kyrylo budanov, dmytro lubinets and others were also personally present representatives, that is, who work in management positions of our state institutions. the meeting was being prepared for a long time, that is, it was supposed to take place in october of last year, we were waiting for it for a long time, and finally , in january of the 24th year, it became possible. we discussed... issues related to severely wounded prisoners of war and wounded who were left without medical care on the night of july 28-29. and to date they have not been returned from captivity, the issue of the introduction of the day of remembrance was also raised of the fallen soldiers, or rather, executed on
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that terrible night, the head of the president's office personally promised to deal with this issue, and we also reported that nikita potoraev gave a recommendation on the resolution on the day of mourning in a rather obscene form. we were promised that we will not receive any more such answers, in more detail, any promises about the prisoners of war there, their return did not promise us anything, ladies , please clarify, what kind of obscene form was it when we made a mailing about the day of the gutter among all ukrainian deputies of the current deputies, ostapenko came to our meeting and he proposed a draft resolution regarding the day of general mourning for all the executed, military and civilian, who lost their lives while in russian captivity. instead, nikita potoraye
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replied to ostapenko that this day could overload the national calendar of commemorative dates. and tell me, please, why the meeting took place now, because you mentioned that it was still supposed to be in october, and i understand that it doesn't mean anything. this meeting will take place, if you can announce it, then please share why it took several more months for this meeting to take place at all? unfortunately, we don't know the details, we just handed over the data that should be there before the meeting, i.e. this is a list of families and their relatives, regarding whom they are coming, then we just wait, i.e. the details are unknown, we just postponed the date. maybe because there was a lot, you understand, and lubinets, and yermak, and budanov, and uusov, well , that is, these people had to be gathered in one
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day, maybe there was an overlay on the schedule, we it is not known what they are, and what they actually promised you about this meeting, whether there were any promises from them, or, i don't know, some very important information that you were hoping to hear there, no. the information, for example, regarding the prisoner of war was standard, that is, that we return our people home during the war, this is a very large indicator that no state has shown during hostilities, we voiced our request, as families of prisoners of war, we asked to facilitate our delegation to travel abroad, voice all the problems of prisoners of war, that is , they clearly showed what happened in olenivka, what was the result, that is, not just in words, but... but the consequences of these events, and of course, we asked for support in the return of 59 prisoners of war who were seriously wounded and those
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who were not taken to the hospital, that is , approximately 120 people, we also mentioned the events in azovstal, that is, how many prisoners of war from azovstal are still in captivity, the situation with them is critical, they asked about the extreme exchange, where two... 30 people were returned, and there was not a single person from wounded during the terrorist attack in ulenivka, we were very concerned about these issues, we were able to convey our position, but in return, no promises were made to us. thank you, ms. anna, for taking the time and opportunity to join our broadcast. anna lobova, the initiator of the rodyn olenivka community, the wife of a defender seriously injured during the terrorist attack in olenivka. meanwhile , last week 10 ukrainian families received compensation for the housing destroyed by the russians and have already purchased real estate, and in principle, as the reconstruction situation is now, i suggest you look at the material of our colleagues.
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here is a hall, here is a small corridor, there is a room, here there was a veranda, a healthy veranda. stefania ivanovna still remembers every corner of her destroyed house. the woman tells in detail where the furniture was and where she rested with her husband, and now. only the foundation remained of the house. in march 2022 , the russian army covered the entire street with hail. this is almost our street, oli's neighbors, the house burned down, there was a fire, but in sashka's neighbor's, the wall collapsed. immediately after the first shelling second. the woman realized that she had to save herself, since the house was already engulfed in flames. i crawled out of the sofa, and here i am. and there i went down the corridor and towards him, and i fell asleep just as they started shooting for the second time, and it was me and i fell asleep between the bed and the wall, i
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covered him with myself, covered him, then how the thundering stopped, and then we went out, and there it was, there was already a fire in the hall. during the entire occupation of the village, mrs. stefania and her husband were tortured, they were temporarily sheltered by friends. a woman will see her home she did not dare for a long time, because she and her husband built this house almost from scratch and dreamed that they would raise their grandchildren there and gather as a family. i didn't scream, i didn't do anything, i stood as if buried, as it were. i didn't say anything, i didn't understand what was being done, there was only one well, a toilet and a gate, that's all. now the couple has installed a temporary modular house. that's it, commas, a kitchen, a guest room, a guest room and his bedroom. in total , 18 houses were destroyed in motyzhyn due to the occupation, the village headman emphasizes, all residents of motyzhyn were helped to draw up documents, some were restored from...
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22 houses need complete capital repairs, 89 houses need ongoing repairs, need to be restored, of course , and there is a restoration program in place, where each house is individual and for each one is allocated ee... funds in in an individual form there, and this is kharkiv, a bantush family near their destroyed house, only one wall stood, a russian shell burned down the house in the first days of the full-scale invasion, his wife olena and daughter victoria were on work at the hospital, when the man felt that he had to run away from home. i called my wife at work, said that i was scared and would go to kum, went, in the morning they informed me that the house
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was no longer there. during these two years, the family lived in an evacuation for several months, then with friends in kharkiv, now they rent an apartment. we did not believe that the commission would come. i don't know what to expect, do you believe in a miracle? vikusya, you believe udyva. verish udiva. the city commission must decide whether the house is really completely destroyed and transfer the materials to action. area of ​​the house which one 30 square. but the amount of compensation is not calculated by the city commission, the experts of the restoration program directly, so the bantosh family does not yet know what to count on, the couple has not decided whether they will buy a new home or rebuild on the site of the destroyed house. what will we be able to pull, because we have no relatives, we ourselves, no parents, there is no one to help, so we can't
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guess how it will turn out. we wanted to rebuild here, but there we understand that we won't pull it out, i'm a nurse, a porter man, do you understand? in total , 1,216 applications were submitted in kharkiv due to the action owners of destroyed housing, the commission has already inspected more than 1,000 objects and only 25 of them have been recognized as truly destroyed. but there are much more destroyed apartments and houses in kharkiv - says the head of the city commission. it's just that often people can't even apply to the program. there is restoration, because there are problems with the right of ownership, if a person does not have this data in this state register of property rights, or has incorrect data, he cannot submit this application, and we, we must work, additionally help residents so that they can submit that application through action, then this application is sent to us, to the city of kharkiv through the register of damaged and
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destroyed. despite everything, 11 people have already received their certificates for the purchase of a new home, among them ophelia's mother, she lived in a house on northern saltivka, where the russians dropped aerial bombs in early march, the woman shares, the apartment was appraised a little cheaper than it was worth, and now they will try buy a new one as soon as possible, because the dollar is growing, and the compensation is in hryvnias, after all, he says, sellers for deals under the program are recovery, go reluctantly. few sellers know what certificates are, and they are currently afraid to cooperate with us, because they do not know what it is, but it is all real, well , because we are the first, this is the first survey, the experience is the first in the country, well they can also be understood. everyone who has lost their home has one dream. i want a warm house.

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