an opportunity for politicians to meet offline and discuss face-to-face what is difficult or dangerous to discuss online or over the phone. well, as a rule, the most interesting things happen behind the scenes, behind the scenes of the forum, and not on its main stage. well , the bloomberg agency i already mentioned, with reference to sources , reported that in particular, president zelenskyi will meet with the executive director of one of the leading american banks, jp morgan, who advised zelenskyi on attracting private capital for various projects with reconstruction well, our broadcast is joined by olena korenkova, a correspondent of social news, she is currently in davos, olena, my greetings, please tell me how the forum started, what atmosphere prevails there now in davos, and maybe some are waiting, or they are already breakthrough decisions regarding ukraine have arrived? colleagues, greetings from davos, in fact, i think that it will be possible to talk about breakthrough solutions tomorrow, because the main thing is official. say the opening,

and when most of the leaders participating in this international economic will arrive forum in davos this year, they will come exactly tomorrow, today such celebrations regarding the opening and a number of events are actually quite important will take place and have already started to take place at 17:00 davos time in the ukrainian house this year in ukraine there are two locations, this is the ukrainian house and a location called design, or define tomorrow's future or your future, where such discussions actually take place. platforms and also exhibitions, which are designed to inform more about the war in ukraine, to also talk about russian war crimes, because until words here it is worth mentioning that since the 22nd year the so-called russian house in davos has been rented by a ukrainian house and there is a so-called house of russian crimes, where ukraine is precisely raising the awareness of international partners, companies, business representatives about russian war crimes that it , which russia is doing in ukraine, but actually the main political moments and the main political speakers, let's say, will be at davos: tomorrow we

understand that davos is a rather broad concept and, first of all, it is an economic forum where security issues are also addressed, as you noted, quite aptly, because this year, in general, the main theme of davos is rebuilding trust , and there will also be four main thematic blocks, one of them is really related to security issues, obviously it will mainly include the issue of ukraine, the russian-ukrainian war, the provision of long-term aid to ukraine, as well as the question of how the country... cannot finally resolve this issue with the delay of financial and military aid, which is currently stuck in congress of the united states, which is currently suspended in the european union, but we hope that these issues will be resolved in the coming months, or at least in the coming weeks, they will certainly talk about it here and president zelensky will certainly talk about it tomorrow in his speech in addition to zelensky, ursula fondelain, the head of the european commission, will also speak here with a separate address, scheduled to speak on january 17. after tomorrow, french president

emmanuel macron is also known to come and the newly elected president of argentina, javier miley, who will also address a number of leaders of international organizations, for example, the head of nato, jen stoldenberg, for the time being, will participate in the panel discussion tomorrow as well. actually, it is also worth mentioning the most expected guests, who may not be western leaders, with whom ukraine would first of all like to communicate, but it is also important that the media were previously informed that it is likely that president zelensky will be able to meet tomorrow or in the coming days here in davos with minister of china it is worth reminding that the citizens, and in particular the chinese delegation, were waiting in davos on january 14 for exactly the meeting of advisors on the peace formula of president zelensky, but the chinese side did not come this time, and in total, out of four meetings of advisors on the peace formula , they participated in only one in jeddah last year, also president erdoğan, who was also expected to attend the forum in davos this year, and moreover, he decided not to accompany anyone with the turkish delegation, because

he was offended and pointed out the position founders of the forum regarding israel, apparently supporting israel and the lack of condemnation of the alleged war crimes that israel commits in gaza, and we remember that a number of statements by erdogan, who supported hamas quite openly, it is also worth recalling that in general, in davos every time davos is held after, on the eve of provo, a few months before devos, a traditional survey is conducted on what... opinion leaders, international organizations, country leaders and representatives of civil society in general consider to be the main challenges to global security and economic, economic security of the world, and this year this survey itself demonstrated that the biggest fear, perhaps the biggest concern, is precisely the issue of disinformation, not the issue of the economy, not the issue of global security, but precisely the issue of disinformation, which can be directly linked to the fact that that this year there will be many elections in the world, an unprecedented number of elections. where the factor

of disinformation, russian, chinese, possibly other hostile influence will be very, very noticeable. actually, we expect that about it the same will happen in the coming days in davos, in addition to this, they will also talk about the climate. issues of economic issues, at least one of the priority topics, voiced the increase of jobs, other economic aspects of cooperation, and the issue of artificial intelligence itself and climate issues, climate change, which will also be on the agenda for not the first year in davos, but this time especially , definitely not the first year, i remember once, even gereta tutenberg came to davos, there were times like that, thank you very much, olena kurenkova, correspondent social, joined us from davos and told. how did the forum start and what to expect from it this year, and daria zarivna, senior adviser to the head of the office of the president of ukraine, joins our broadcast, good evening, also from davosia, good evening, i see you so far, daria, i propose to start everything - due to the fact that davos for ukraine

began a day earlier, on january 14 , the fourth meeting of advisers was held, but, as you know, the bloomberg publication wrote, the meeting ended without a clear plan for establishing peace in ukraine. and the publication also states that the holding of peace summits at the level of heads of state is also decreasing, i will say so, is this true? you know, i probably won't say anything in advance there, i think that soon there will be some news, there will be some information about this, but i can say that it was very, well, i can compare, yes, because it was the fourth meeting national security advisers, the first one was in copenhagen, then... 16 countries were represented, and with each subsequent meeting , the number of states and international organizations grew, this time there were more than 80, the works were presented on the topics of this time: withdrawal of russian troops and cessation of hostilities, restoration of justice, environmental security,

prevention of repetition of aggression, confirmation of the end of the war, and also such specificity of the meeting on january 14 were also two special panels, one: dedicated to food security, the other to humanitarian issues, we had a very large ukrainian delegation, for each point we also included countries that took leadership in one or another point, i want to say that my personal, if you can say so, feeling that this meeting was so powerful in terms of content, there was a lot of new, interesting and useful things. and appeals, and this time there was a lot of activity, you know, we have the first part of the meeting there - there is always a presentation of points, there is a presentation of the ukrainian side, a presentation of those countries that have taken the lead, and then we have the next part there, it is an open discussion, that is

, it is a freer discussion there, and this time there were such a number of countries that wanted to be there to speak with our appeals , which, to be honest, we were very... not out of time there and we really didn't have time to put everything in the timing and were very powerful, again i probably won't name it, because it's probably wrong with from the point of view of some kind of security there, but there was a whole series of appeals from african countries with very powerful messages, so i consider this meeting to be very successful and very probably the most meaningful , very active and... since we have this time in our country, how is this happening at all, that is, the first day is going on, this actually the meeting of the top security advisers, the second day is actually a bilateral meeting, that is , we make the most of this time, this opportunity to meet with all countries, deliver our messages, talk,

record feedback, and this time we had a whole, a whole the day before the actual meeting, and that's why it turned out to be so full, but i'll repeat, well, probably... again, it's wrong to somehow disagree with such a respectable publication as bloomberg, but again, i suggest waiting a little for the news. i understand that the city of davos was also there was chosen not in vain, because it was expected that it would be possible to gather as many representatives of as many state organizations as possible there. a lot of people from the chinese delegation came to davos this year, that's all. noted, but nevertheless , they did not find the time and opportunity to be present at this meeting of security advisers and political advisers on the ukrainian peace formula, why do you think, why did china ignore it, they were really only once in jeddah, and that, as far as i understand, now

already because they could not refuse the saudi prince, who personally invited them there, but apparently china still ignores the invitation of the ukrainian side, and the same thing happened in davos, see... this is very important to understand and we constantly talk about it, but by the way, it is not always actively covered in the media there. we have three levels of peace formula work. the first is a meeting with the ambassador. in ukraine, and we present each item in a certain location, which has a semantic connection with this item, for example, here is the last item of the formula - this is a confirmation of the end of the war , we held there in boryspil, yes, because boryspil was one of the first locations that, as a result of the war, stopped working on its immediate profile there, but at the same time we see there what and how. .. if the security conditions allow, boryspil will be opened again, and actually every point there

always takes place at some point that has a connection, and for example, at several meetings we had representatives of china at the level of ambassadors, and indeed they were also present at meetings of the country, and certainly of its country of the global south are extremely important in order for the leaders' summit to take place and for the whole story to take place there... peace formulas, it moved on, so i would be, frankly, in the formulations here, more diplomatic and cautious there, i believe that i have certain, let's say, more optimistic views from this point of view, but i will repeat that during this meeting there were a lot of representatives of the countries of the global south, and what they said during of this meeting too... instills confidence and hope there and optimism, well, what do you think, after all, why did china not join this time, they

were in davos, nothing prevented them from joining, is it some political considerations, or why is there an answer from the ukrainian side to that question, well look, i think that's the answer to that question, it's complex and it's got a lot of factors and it's complicated and absolutely, well, i don't think there's a need right now... to go into much detail about of this, i think that the process is going on, i think that, in principle, there is diplomatic work, it is like that, there part of this work is public, part of it is not public, in any case , you have to continue, you have to continue the dialogue, you have to continue the communication, and the most important thing is to keep moving, and you know, a very important thing happened there recently. this is the signing of an agreement on security guarantees, for example with great britain, it was

our first agreement, and as a continuation of the vilnius declaration, i would like to remind you that before the vilnius declaration, we also had a fairly long period of time in the process there and work, for example, our group with mr. rasmuson on security guarantees for ukraine, when we created it in may 2022 , there was also a lot of skepticism and there were many difficulties. but still , this is a process, it resulted in certain logical actions, i.e. the adoption of the vilnius declaration, now the signing of the first security agreement, if you look at the news on the website of the president's office, we have a very active dialogue there with a number of countries, for example, we are also in davos now since there was a meeting with romania, we are actively working on a process regarding the future of safe to... to do, therefore, to be honest, i would avoid any harsh wording here, but simply

continue our work, and i am sure that there will be good news. daria, i can't help but ask you about the news that is currently being discussed in ukraine and in journalist circles, you, a former media personality yourself, you probably know that yuri nikolov, a journalist who investigates corruption in the ministry of defense, was threatened with they stuck all kinds of stickers on the door, and videos from these... from this visit, the telegram channel kartochni domik published it, it is openly called as being connected to the president's office, so i have to ask you, so excuse me, madam, i really want to say very directly and categorically as possible that no there is no connection between this telegram channel and the president's office, first of all, secondly, regarding what you said, to be honest, i myself just left the meeting, and only after reading these news... therefore , i probably don't have any position there yet clear, which i can articulate, especially

on behalf of the office, but i can definitely say that please do not connect this anonymous telegram channel, or any other one there, with the office of the president, well, it is absolutely, it does not correspond to reality , can tell you this with all confidence, thank you very much for your comment, daria zarivna, senior adviser to the head of the office of the president of ukraine, was in touch with us. they mostly talked about the davos economic forum, which is ongoing these days. thank you very much. finally, i encourage you to subscribe to… radio liberty on the internet, remarks, wishes, comments, you can leave under this video, video, we are also on social networks, instagram, telegram, facebook, viber, and svooboda live will return to the air tomorrow. there are discounts on zepelor, 10% in pharmacies

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hello, actually, it's not me, it's facebook, i wrote that i 'm some author of some digital, some content, it's... i still don't know how to live with it, it's good or bad and a youtube star, insta mom, no , no, god forbid, no, no, i do not do this, no, and this is at the beginning of a great war, i started making streams, i never did this, but i made them at night, no, i'm not there, no, yes, i couldn't go to instagram for a long time, i didn't understand what to do there, because my posts are without a photo card , without any picture on facebook of any social direction, they have more likes than any picture, that is, i am really, really, well, because i have such an audience, such a contingent of people who are interested, i can write something is wrong, absolutely yes, because you have to take pictures, here i am eating, here i am in the toilet in the mirror, and here i am i pumped up my lips and now you are 25, i can't stand such competition, there are already a lot of

people doing it, so i just do something else, i did poetry streams, and then we came up with something else. i think, my god , what is it called, i called it there between the wails of the sirens, sometimes i went straight out with the bathroom, because they started with the siren, i understood that i was setting an example for people, well, it was a little like that in kyiv, after all, and that's why i moved, i'm just setting up this little flashlight of mine, everything everything everything poetry texts by ukrainian authors and only about love, and i go to the bath, rockets fly here, and poems come out of the bath with... yes, it's fine, it's fine, you know, i was recently in warsaw, we presented a book there. war 2022" in polish, er, and i had a creative meeting, and when before me, and i also moderated the meeting with skazarin, for the first time such moderation was done as the author of the book, pasha kozararyn, so or what? no, no, no, as, no, not as an author, he did not present the book, but it was simply

his meeting with fans, readers. connoisseurs, and i moderated, because i understand, the barracks must be allowed to talk and say something, but they must be guided, moderated, and right at the meeting with him, a woman came up to me and said that your streams saved me then, and i have the person i became friends with because she once wrote in a comment: it's good that i 'm catching you, she's from the occupied kherson region, she was standing on a chair and surfing the internet to get only to these... i was going out, i don't know what this is where some strength came from, but it not only saved people, it saved me too, every evening, somewhere around 12 o'clock at night, i went out and for an hour or so, what is a stream, some name appears there, and i start to react, then roman chaiko joined us, and now i will tell you the story of our acquaintance or the story of ours, i talk about this person, and then i move on, and that is why

the 10 poems that i planned to read about the poet and tell about this poet, they are somewhere in... but people said that it was so for them there was psychotherapeutic support , even that, well, actually, i think so it will be determined later, they will determine that for actors like ryma zyubina it was military, well, therapeutic military activity, maybe, maybe, well, i will come back to this, because... the war changed us all, especially those who who resist and think that the status quo will return immediately after the war, dreamers or idiots, we don't know what we will find out if they are, who they are, but... let's go back to the fact that we are actually tomorrow, because how illiterate am i , competently corrected rima zyubina that the first 10 performances are called the premiere, that's it

a unique chance on the next, next saturday, that is, tomorrow, tomorrow it's on us, i do n't know when ours will be released, december, the second of december we have the third performance, the third premiere, the third premiere performance, enemies is a love story, and i realized that this is a play that i haven't seen yet and don't be stupid like me , subscribe to our channel, like and go to the play, because it's the worst thing to talk about a play that you haven't seen yet, but i i have already watched short fragments from rehearsals and performances on the facebook page, read a little about it and understand what it is the performance is a personal love story during the holocaust, it is correct, if in one sentence, after, because it is the 49th year, after, after, but it can really be said. because these people remained in that traumatic experience, and even in the 49th year, herman, who already lives in america, he still always expects

the possibility that the nazis will get to new york, he imagines it all, yes , yes, yes, yes , this, these are people who are traumatized, and deeply traumatized, and... and i would say that this is what awaits us, today i was even riding a train, but it's when you have such sleepless nights, some kind of subconscious tells you some such things, and there a child alone started to scream very, very much , a boy of eight years old, i don't know what provoked him, but we left kyiv, there was an air alarm, and we were approaching already to lviv, there was also an air alarm in kyiv, but there after us the trains even there closed the station and did not let them through. in fact , it already happened today, and i thought, well , we have our grandparents who have the status of children of war, and i thought, will it be in 15

years in ukraine, this is the status of the children of war, and those children who really have such injuries, which they suffered and which they will bear all their lives, these injuries, and for some reason today i thought about these children of war, that it's scary well, a terrible term, wording , it is relevant in our country, well, i have a younger son, he is the same age as the war, that is , a classic child of the war, who was born in the 13th year, so far there has not been a year of peace in his life, so let's see how it is it will be, but why show such a story, well, let's say the story of post-traumatic syndrome after one genocide, to show it to people who... live at the time of another genocide, because the muscovites have one task - the final solution to the ukrainian issue and the destruction of ukrainians as such, why show another

genocide alone, what does it do? and this is a novel by the nobel laureate yitzhak basheves singer, who moved from poland to america, and he actually wrote a lot about himself. about his injuries, because he survived the second world war, and he had a difficult relationship with his child, with his grandchildren, who described that grandfather, he was all in creativity and was all there, and herman, on our story, on the surface it looks like a love story, because that's what enemies dot love story is called, this is the first performance of maksyn maksym golenko as an artistic director. and the director of the theater, so i went with him in january to odesa to the ukrainian music and drama theater named after vasyl vasylko, we worked for six months, here

maksym mygolenko is being reassigned here to lviv, and he makes such an offer, we planned to stage this play in lviv and then it will be transferred to odesa, well, for now it is only now, this beautiful production is only in lviv, i am so satisfied. as far as i am aware of the scale of this work, i probably had work of this scale in the theater, maybe 10 years ago, you and i met for an interview the evening before my premiere , the difference is in the young theater, even then i served there, and i too i thought that either i will spend the evening in my hysterics and nerves from excitement, then i will go to roman chaika's and there we will have a seagull and that's better then. it was delicious and that's how i blurted out my emotions, on the surface we only see a love story, three women, herman marries jedvi. who

was a servant of her parents out of gratitude, because she hid him in the haystack for three years, and she saved his life, then we are a bit of a spoiler, or are we still a spoiler, because unlike , well, what i expect from theater critics, we theatrical critics, all those who wrote articles, they simply retell, i have such a friend, an actress from the lviv theater of ulyalok, yana tytarenko, when she writes about play, she writes a lot... it’s more professional for me just in the messenger she sees plastic movements, voice changes, small scenes, lights, here all critics retell the story, summary, summary, and this, well, this is not theater criticism, that is, herman lives with jadwiga, he has another woman, another lover, masha, and his wife, tamara, appears, and 10 years

ago... there was a witness who said that he saw with his own eyes that tamara and two children were shot. so my heroine appears, and it seems that we have experienced something that is impossible, no, so that it doesn't change us, and we still return to these household showdowns, who cheated whom, who with whom, who how, who betrayed whom, masha, who goes into such a crazy whirlwind of life for her, parties, beloved. these, wine, cigarettes, this is how she saves herself, and this is also a way of salvation, and behind all this are completely lonely, unhappy people, because the enemies, as in bashevis, singer, they are inside us, we , the worst enemy, well, each one himself hitler, yes, and that, that hitler that sits inside you, he's scarier than we can eat ourselves, or we can afford

pride to be reborn on some catastrophic scale, and that is why they are enemies, and they are also among themselves, but , but the enemy is within himself, and the story, why, why, why, why, why, someone sees a very beautiful performance, because the artist yulia zaulichna made an incredible scenography, our circle is spinning, we have three assistant directors working in this play, this is my first job at the zankovetska theater, i have never seen such a professional... approach of workshops anywhere, the installers disassemble all the five-meter eyes in 10 minutes , bookshelves are full of books, artists, props fill it all instantly, somewhere these cups or chairs appear, make-up artists, costume designers, well, i'm really just okay, a good team, but still i return to the point, because it somehow stressed me a little, i.e.... domestic showdowns

of who to whom and how and when against the background of post-traumatic syndrome after the genocide and the enemy, i.e. hitler in me, i already think so, so stop, well , putin is not in me, with this genocide that takes place when it is enough even in the distant rear lviv to pass by mars field, to understand that no, it is not so simple to explain that the enemy is sitting inside me and such a small putin to me... is the basis of my entire post-traumatic syndrome, well, i hope that people in ukraine are thinking about why this war arose, well, why now, if we did a poll, even sociologists, they wouldn’t tell us that 90% realized that it was a genocide, and all russians just go to bed with the dream that there would simply be no ukrainians, well, there is no such thing, well, no, i

was convinced too. recently i had two such contrasts, they were the premiere in lviv with a hall, which sold out all the tickets in two weeks, sold out, how warm it is, how theatrical it is, how quiet the hall is, when you breathlessly hear the applause in those moments of the scenes, after, for example, a successful scene, the resolution of the scene, and here i go to another a city where mobile phones don't go silent, where people pick up the phone and tell the time. from the white church, and i see on facebook, i see that you entered so joyfully, joyfully, and we entered joyfully, joyfully left, and i say, i came so disappointed with the audience, and i say to my son: god, it's an hour from kyiv, he tells me, mom, go 10 minutes from the center of kyiv, you'll see a different life, we still live in our bubbles, huh, but now, the events on the maidan are being remembered and fourth and...