here for the replacement of windows, replacement of furniture there, some beds are brought in, things necessary for a stay, clothes, food are brought in, that ’s all, let’s say, worked out, such a mechanism is clear, let’s say a social structure, it all works, that’s also payments, there are some social , let's say the moments that district administrations do all this, social services, so further, well, there is no great sense to go further and... there is no, let's say, around ukraine, some leave, but the majority of the expedition stays in the city of kharkiv, there is a place to receive them, and we are happy for these people, they are somehow looking for themselves in this complex situation, but well, in this regard, we have everything set up normally, well, i will not ask about the production of drones by all the people who know how to do it and can do it, buy parts, here you know, well, this statement was heard from the minister, someone is laughing, someone... is taken more seriously, in

any case, any initiative, it can always be implemented to a certain extent by people who already implement this initiative, so i will ask about what, because this is already a more global issue, and it does not apply to specific people or households, where there who can do what, and it concerns entire communities, so there was a statement from the spokesman of the air defense forces, mr. ignat, he says: local communities can purchase electronic warfare equipment from civilian manufacturers to counter russian missiles and drones, well, kharkiv itself is a city, which was very much needed. b rebs, i don’t know if they work against ballistics, i’m not an expert, but i think that they definitely don’t work against something, this issue will be discussed, in general, i just don’t know how much rebs cost, i know that certain organizations buy slaves there for the army, yes, there is such a process , it can be done, but in principle, in your opinion, will it be considered, is this initiative promising, well, again, because kharkiv, kharkiv region are communities that directly are interested in blinding the enemy, enemy drummers somewhere there. objects, well, you know

, well, my personal opinion, but there are state structures, there are ministries that are, let's say, that deal specifically with these issues, and we , as a state, value people who pay taxes, we finance everything for this, why can't they it has already been two years to organize, for some reason the russians cannot organize, and we are still dealing with promises there. and now, well, how it looks to me, let's transfer all this to the territorial communities, it means that they took the military tax of these territorial communities, sent it to kyiv, now its guts are being sawed somewhere, somewhere they are telling something, well, i don't see such an effect, that directly everyone has become a million drones, it has appeared, so far there is no and soon it will all be, but now such a proposal, let's get more communities involved self-defense, i will make it, let's let the communities start doing something else there, we have our... territorial brigades that are formed

in the territories of the communities, let's form something else, well, that is, the initiatives are like mine, well, well, well , concepts are exchanged, everyone in the state is engaged in their own work, when this whole mechanism works, you know, as from top to bottom, as it should be, as it should be, then both the army and the defense of the state work, and when we arrest mr. terikhov now, well, we will stop, to persuade there, there is a general criticism. some, well, he will react, the city council will also react, let's go there, terikhov, in addition to the restoration of broken hotels, will also deal with the production of drones, organize something else somewhere, for which we then pay taxes to kyiv, well then return the taxes, we then we will open factories, here in kharkiv there will be an independent territorial community, there will be a deputy who deals with the defense of the city of kharkiv, there will be an additional department there, well, we will do it all , of course kharkiv, and please tell us how much of these taxes were taken from kharkiv?

military levy, let's say, well , it's not just that he's not a military man, it means these taxes of military personnel and others, well, just to understand, because actually this money was taken with the aim that drones would be financed with them, in particular for the troops, well, we have deputies of the kharkiv city council, they will say for sure, but i know that it is several billion hryvnias, this is a territorial community only of the city of kharkiv, if we... take the kharkiv district, then we have 15 territorial communities together with kharkiv, well it will already be a few more billions a year that were taken from us, well, the kharkov budget was somewhere around 15-18 billions, it changes there from year to year depending on the same taxes, well , now you think that a few billions were taken from us , but the city continues to work, now i'm repeating myself, i guess let 's think about whether we'll allocate a billion or 100 million, i don't know how much we'll open.

we have a factory here and we will make a utility company, you know, there is such a tradition in kharkiv, we create in any direction a utility company, we had up to 100 of them there, but... before the war, now there are a little less of them, some of whom have been disbanded, well, let's create a few more utility companies, one will deal with drones, the second will deal with air defense, and there are still others anything and everything else, and everything will be fine, i will lead one of these, no question, i will lead, well, you know, i agree with the fact that obviously there should be clearer communication, who can do it, please do, who can do it, and this is how they do it, the question is different, well, because it is perceived as such that let's all be a circle in the mila ruchenyat and let's do something, moreover, everyone can do it, they know how, not everyone is given it, if it's not given to you, you won't do it, but you can tell, you always can, but i, i know , that you, in addition to being a deputy, are also the head of the condominium, if i'm not mistaken, right? yes, i am the head of the board, well, a rather powerful big one, but i would like to use the example of a city from which many people left, probably not all of them returned,

a city where there are many damaged or destroyed buildings that are now unfit for living, and this is a plus city , which today is really under the threat of a repeated enemy invasion, at least that is what is being said, this is the initiative that... to the fact that the moratorium on payment is canceled there for, not a fee, but that they will be fined, charged a penalty, even cut off from the supply of those people , who have significant debts for electricity, in my opinion, it was only about electricity, as it is in your case, according to your experience, on such a specific concrete example of a specific sbv, how it will be implemented in general, what debts can there be and... as actively as it can to work as quickly as possible, because again, this is the same, the initiative is like this, well, on the one hand, it may be right, whoever does not pay, let whoever has the opportunity pay, but in my opinion, it is very problematic, well, you you know, yes, there was such a 206 cabinet resolution that was introduced at the beginning

of a full-scale invasion, where it was written that you cannot collect fines, during this full-scale invasion, you can't either. fines and bank deposits, all other sanctions that can be accepted for a religious person, this meant the population exclusively, not commercial, namely the population , now this norm has been removed in this resolution, or a new one has been adopted, i won’t tell you exactly here, and except for those territories where hostilities are taking place, they are constantly updated in the cabinet of ministers’ registers, you can go and see them there , well, in kharkiv , if we are talking about the city, this does not include, as for all the fines themselves, well, look, i went through two courts already with kharkiv obergozbud, i sued him for 315 thousand fines, fines and everything that they charged us during the war, because the house was broken, people didn't pay, but

fines were issued to us, i won two courts , now the supreme court has been filed, and on the 23rd we will be suing these, let's say hakugams there, this is a state-owned, by the way , enterprise that rips off from where... from residents as well and here is money , which is directly related, well, let's take an apartment that is in a condominium, which has a debt, if it concerns electricity, then they can come and turn off the electricity supply, because they have a direct contract with this apartment, and if a person does not pays, let's say two years there, huh it happens and more, and i don't pay attention to it, well, here we have to make a decision, because we all pay for this person, and she can't, what are the reasons, it's different, let's say everyday. or there may be some, but there are other debts, it ’s not the same, it’s not only about electricity, you ’re wrong here, it also applies to debts for other things, for example, contributions to the maintenance of the house, or fees for the water that is needed and so on another thing, i have several apartments, there are 30 thousand debts, there are 35, people have not paid for two

years and cannot pay it, i have there was no mechanism how to deal with them, there are people who have money and live here, and everything is fine, but they pay, well, the war is going on, i won't pay, you know, so i waved it off. i will not pay, now i have a mechanism with which i can come and disconnect, for example , his supply, i will interrupt you for a second, i will announce to our viewers that we are waiting minute by minute for the president of ukraine volodymyr zelensky , who is on an official visit to switzerland, will hold a press conference in the country's capital, bernie the president of the swiss confederation, viola amhert, as soon as they're over there by these stands, we'll definitely go on the air , but while we've got a few minutes, i'd like some more... continuing on that topic, look, i didn't find statistics as of now, i just won’t look for them, but i think that you can roughly understand, as of january 1 last year, the debt of ukrainians for communal services reached uah 120 billion, taking into account debts in temporarily occupied territories, well, during this

time of temporarily occupied territories in my opinion it definitely didn't happen anymore, but even if somewhere there the enemy repulses some square kilometers, then for sure no one pays the utility bill there, well, if we are talking about the direction of bakhmut, let's say or zaporizhzhia somewhere, then it is clear. this is such a huge amount and it is clear that it will grow, according to your experience, are there people who, let's say, have profits, but simply do not pay, because those people, by the way, who have the most non-payers are those who... did not apply for a subsidy, those who did apply for a subsidy just pay properly, well, look, if we say about condominiums, i will say more precisely here, i do not know where subsidies are paid, in my building there, it seems that there is only one subsidy there for 200 apartments, all other people have started paying, some pay in advance and such large sums, because they understand that it is difficult for condominiums, and you have to give money to make it last, there the building did not break down, its systems worked and so on, but there is a god. which are fundamental, which under one or another pretext are not going to pay yet, but now

this mechanism exists, you understand, and everyone will think, well, i will be left without electricity, i will stay there without water or without heating in my apartment, which i didn't want to pay, and this debt was hanging, and they will start paying it, it probably had to be done anyway, so let the people there tell me now in ukraine, what is bohdan somehow... uh, he pulls a blanket over himself, but listen, that's 120 billion, and that's not all the money, there's someone there who didn't count how much, for example, i have, there half a million, it seems that only the residents of the osb building, which i head, are to blame, you understand, this is not included in these 120 billion, and so many different condominiums, various others, where even the statistics about these debts are not known, they must be paid off, well, without money , it is impossible for this mechanism to work, this is ... you understand, now we already have there is such a possibility, no one who is not a resident will show me the 206 resolution and say that you do not

have the right, we have a war, i have suffered terribly here and therefore i will not pay, well, i was there before the national energy commission and communal services, they thus motivated that those people, or such the logic of the fines was voiced, those who have long-term debts, that is, it is not that you are there for three months, four months. maybe i didn’t pay even for six months, well, people have all kinds of situations , and longer time, but again, and people who left, well, they, maybe you have such people, you know the story when people left kharkiv, well, somewhere in ukraine, in other regions , or maybe abroad, do such people pay, and here again, you know such logic, a person lives in some area and knows that the s300 flies around kharkiv or some others, well, it is not only for kharkiv, but in kharkiv in particular, we simply see that it is almost close to the russian border, and a person. he thinks to himself, i will pay, and then my apartment will be broken into, and i have already paid, and then i will still

take compensation, well, that is the logic of war, it is not the same as in ordinary life, and it must also be taken into account , whether it is right or wrong, it is simply different, this is the logic of military actions, and people sometimes act completely illogically in this logic, as for peaceful life, well , you know, here you are not quite right in terms of why, those people who left for very often abroad or somewhere to... western ukraine , to other cities, they just, you know, are more concerned about what happens here in kharkiv sometimes than those who live here and don't pay and transfer money, yes , i can name every apartment, last name, name, and who is where, because this is my job, and they transfer the money, there is someone in slovakia, someone in italy, someone in germany, and they take care , they call, write, how are you doing after each shelling, you know, in my phone in... channels our our house, or in personal messages, tell a lot, everything is fine there, what

happened to you, no one was hurt, that is, people are concerned and send money and support this house, so you know, the logic here is still generally ukrainian, the general is so patriotic , it is present, and some people who never left here or returned and they feel normal, live 30,000 debts, use all the benefits there that you provide them, or there already at one time in kharkiv, transport was free, i not i know how this situation is now, it is now free, the free subway in kharkiv, then the question arises, why here, well, it also costs 5 uah, but i will finally ask, what is the situation regarding the dynamics of housing restoration, it is clear that this it is not easy and you have to look for money, but very briefly, if possible, does this dynamic continue, please, yes, it is one thing. it seems that they have now announced the amount that has already been charged to people,

it will be paid to people, or it is in the process of being paid, there are various funds that we we turned to the fund, this is the un, a french fund under the roof of the un, which compensates losses from the shelling, so we submitted documents for about 60 apartments and they promise to pay a certain amount for each family member, that is, the money is there, it has appeared. this is very, very gratifying, because in the 22nd year we did not see any money anywhere, you know, on the horizon that could come to us, now it is, it appears, they are such ways where you can get where a computer is broken windows, there is something else, and if a person cares, he does a little work with questions, he will take a picture of me there, jump into action there, call the administration, find out from the head of the osb, and what is there, and how is this , the mechanism is starting a little, well, not a little, it is gaining momentum and that is all, and recovery is taking place, and the city council does the same with those houses that were damaged by explosions

both last year and this year, thank you very much, mr. bohdan, we talked a lot today, thank you for... you were with us and for your professional comments, bohdan takachuk, deputy of the kharkiv district council, take care, life is like this in kharkiv, and i will say that we are waiting, again, we continue to wait for the approach to the press of the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi, who is in the swiss confederation in the city of bern, and he will hold a joint press conference with the president of the swiss confederation, viola amgert, you see, there is no one yet, but as soon as the head of our state and his counterpart from... from switzerland, you will hear, you will see, and i am now, so that we do not waste time waiting in vain , well, not in vain, but a long wait, we let's talk about the situation at the front, and once again we are all waiting for clarification from our expert serhiy zgurets, what happened to the so-called a50 long-range radar detection and control aircraft and his friend il-22m, serhii, please

congratulate you, vasyl, i congratulate our lazy people , we are really going to talk about this historical event in our column right now, and then, if there is still an opportunity, we will talk about another epic battle, where our bradleys destroyed russian tanks near the steppe, more on that in a moment. of course, the top news is that the air force of ukraine destroyed the a50 long-range detection aircraft. in and critically damaged the il-22m air control post of the russian occupation forces, this was officially announced by the commander-in-chief of the armed forces valery zaluzhnyi, as well as the commander of the air force. it happened on january 14, around 9 p.m. over the sea of ​​azov. this is a well-thought-out and

complex operation, because our armed forces shot down a plane for the first time in the history of hostilities. distant implementation detection, because it tries to keep them away from the front one edge, and such aircraft do not engage in enemy air defense, as is believed, and even they are covered by such own fighters, so what happened is incredible and unprecedented for combat operations, although it is already traditionally done by our armed forces, such as i will remind you that with the destruction of the flagship of the black sea fleet, the cruiser mo'. our neptune missile and the destruction of the russian submarine rostov-on-don by the storm shdow cruise missile in sevastopol. but shooting down the enemy a50 and hitting the il-22 is extremely important in view of the cascading effect of the loss of these aircraft for russia's combat capability. why so? the a50 actually has the ability

to detect our planes, cruise missiles, and drones at a fairly significant level. distances , they can also detect the basing of our air defense systems and radars when these radars are working, and there was a time when three such aircraft were constantly on duty near our borders, the plane was in belarus, working, then from the waters of the sea of ​​azov and somewhere from kursk, these three planes could actually control our entire airspace, and the loss of such a machine to the enemy. very, very serious, because until yesterday there were only nine such aircraft in service with the aggressor army, while among them there were 3 a50 in old versions and six a50 aircraft in modernized ones, this is the estimated cost of the modernized one, now everyone is talking about 300-300 , 330 million dollars, but these are such

floating indicators, and here, as far as i am concerned, the price, frankly, does not matter, because they are simply critical... the enemy does not have enough of them, and it will be extremely difficult to restore them to the enemy. and earlier another such a50-u suffered damage to its locator last year after an attack by drones in the belarusian homelands, and then the enemy took these rare planes from there to russian territory. but the downed a50-u is another loss of a trained calculation, because each plane is five crew members and... 11 operators with considerable experience, despite the fact that the enemy had such trained operators for all planes somewhere, well, no more hundreds, this also applies to the decrease. il-22 command post, the enemy had up to 10 such aircraft . the air force of ukraine, by the way, had already destroyed such aircraft, for the first time such an aircraft was destroyed

the plane in april 22nd, then such il-22s were destroyed by the wagnerites themselves, when this rebellion of wagner's mutiny was in june of last year, and now, in fact, this is the third il-22m that was damaged. actually damaged, he landed in anapa, now we see significant damage to the keel of this plane, there was such a recorded radio exchange with those that they were preparing an ambulance there to help the damaged one there, but the command of the forces said that actually it will not be difficult to restore this data. at the same time, it is not announced now what happened attacked these planes, there is an assumption that this is the work of the so-called wandering mirrors, patriot,

there have already been cases when enemy planes were actually destroyed at a considerable distance and in an unexpected place, in particular, as it was there, well, literally in december in the kherson region, now we see the range of coverage that the patriot air defense system can use, gmts are just missiles that are designed to deal with aero ballistic targets like airplanes, these missiles have a range of 160 km and they really have a frag part that is designed to destroy airplanes there are also winged ones missiles, but in any case it means that this complex was used from the front-line zone and this is... such a risky step, but we can see that the operation was quite successful, although other options are possible, other versions are possible, although this one let this

unpredictability actually be another additional strength of our armed forces, and the enemy cannot predict what exactly was used against these aircraft, but in any case we understand that the loss of these unique machines in terms of functionality and quantity in the arsenal. the enemy means more than significant losses for the enemy and the appearance of such a significant breach in his air defense system, and as air force commander olyschuk said, there will be more, so we are waiting for a good new continuation of this story, and now we will have a transition to the west, to the press conference of the president of ukraine volodya . zelensky, who is currently on an official visit to switzerland in the country's capital, bern, and he will now hold a press conference with the president of the swiss confederation, viola amgerd, so

we are listening carefully to the press conference of the president and the head of switzerland. in sein drittes jahr, die menschen müssen einen weiteren kriegswinden. so, we see that in a few weeks it will be two years since the people of ukraine. will experience all the horrors of this war, because now president zelenskyy is visiting, we now

want to say during this visit that we express solidarity with ukraine, and ukraine can rely on switzerland, because switzerland supports the process of sustainable peace, which switzerland is ready to take participation in this summit and contribute to the organization. again, we will take steps to there has been some success and our specialist teams will also be making efforts. the federal department of switzerland is working in this direction. to say that, in general , our cooperation is aimed at strengthening sustainable peace thanks to the help of ukraine. and switzerland really feels honored. helping

ukraine, we focus on the reconstruction and reconstruction of ukraine, because this is the strategic importance of this in the long-term perspective, the construction and reconstruction of ukraine, we say when we'.

demining and issued during this year financial assistance in this area. humanitarian demining is indeed a huge problem, and by advancing efforts in this direction, idps and other refugees will be able to return to their homes. ukraine is a food country, because it is a country that harvests large crops, and it feeds countries all over the world, and therefore we also discussed efforts to direct them to increase exports of ukrainian grain through the black sea. russia, it actually withdrew from the grain agreement, and it. makes it so that

export becomes impossible, but switzerland is now together with the un secretary general, we are building our efforts in order to understand what ukrainians need, that is, again, how to establish accountability and the process of providing such and such assistance that we can, as well as for ... to ensure the safety of the airspace. switzerland, together with other countries, advocates the establishment of a special tribunal to bring to justice those guilty of international war crimes. we support the peace formula that he announced president zelenskyi last year. i want

to thank president zelenskyi for the excellent organization of this meeting, thank you all, today we held another meeting, and now we want to strengthen our bilateral relations, we are now once again building another cooperation.

to thank everyone for the fact that switzerland does not remain neutral, because if switzerland is neutral, it means that it will ignore the reality, because it is moral, right, to help us protect our lives. thank you for your principled political support from the start of a full-scale russian invasion of the territory. thank you ukraine for supporting the european sanctions, as well as for your work on the implementation of the peace formula. switzerland always, the world, the world appreciates your attention to your efforts, and that is why i thank you for taking a clear position to restore an honest peace, and that is why it is very important that switzerland has helped.