where it happened, i think that's what this book is called, because donald trump has already managed to agree and resolve all issues with kim chin-un, with xi jinping, only bolton describes very well how angry trump is, and promising to resolve the issue of the denuclearization of north korea and find solutions to all issues. with china, it all turned into trump asking that both the wine-skinned kim jong-un and the red dictator xi jinping buy soybeans from the united states from the farmers, because the farmers would then support trump. that is, everything is clear to me here, and what trump says during the election process is just an election process. now

, as far as actual steps are concerned, fortunately the president of the united states of america has quite a bit of room to maneuver, because since obama, all these issues have been transferred to congress, and the current situation, it shows even more the influence of congress, and the only problem is that the election campaign and the situation in the republican party, within the party itself, today brings certain problems, including for solving issues of urgent aid to ukraine, in accordance with the plans that the congress itself adopted, but i am convinced, i hope, that the issues will be resolved there, especially since today there is actually a meeting between president joe biden and representatives of both the majority and the minority, as in the senate , as well as in the house of representatives. er, as for er trump

and prospects, well, we still have to get to the finals, see who will win there. ah, as you see, mr. serhiy, with, mr. serhiy, excuse me, with the transition of power in the united states of america in the 24th - 25th year, they connect including, even the possibility of an attack by the moscow führer on europe, that is, in reality. trump and trumpism are a great test for the united states of america first of all, but it is the business of the americans to elect this or that president, and they will be responsible for it. trumpism, as a brother of isolationism, is a very bad thing in the current conditions, and it is precisely this trumpism that makes orbán sick. and fizo, and one must understand

that this is a virus, it is a virus that was thrown by putinism, the moscow führer, and it is very contagious, because it seems to be under the protection of certain national interests, according to the rhetoric of kishenkov's patriotism, carries a colossal problem in the civilized world in opposition. an aggressor like putin, and he is very harmful to the necessary unification of the european community, and the whole world, of democratic civilized forces in opposition to the moscow fuhrer, the red chinese dictator, and the iranian ayatollahs, and such as lukashenko and kim jong-un, who are a huge .

a tragedy and a great trouble for the korean, north korean people, and the belarusian people, that is, in fact, similar figures political, and i would even call them quasi -figures, they are currently very harmful to the unification of democracy, the unification of the civilized world against aggressive, aggressive axes of evil. mr. roman , i wanted to ask... you about one more event, how it will actually affect the development of the situation in russia, because today in bashkortostan, omon dispersed a protest of several thousand people who gathered under the court building where fail alsynov was tried, these are eco-activists, a person, which openly opposed russia's war with ukraine, he was sentenced to four years imprisonment for inciting between. out of

national enmity, thousands of people came to the courthouse, began to protest, omon began to disperse them, they began to beat them there, somewhere nearby. 3 thousand people threw themselves into a fight with omon, can we expect that in russia something similar will happen in individual subjects of the federation, which sooner or later will lead to its collapse in russia, or at least the concentration of the central government on the situation in russia itself , and not in ukraine? well, the fact is that... if we take russia, then they are national entities and republics, such as tatarstan, bashkortostan, they most self-identify as national groups,

and even during the collapse of the soviet union, who remembers, they claimed and declared their own statehood, or can we say that the current events... carry potentially a threat to the putin regime. of course, yes. and these events are happening not only in bashkahrostan, they are happening in other cities as well. the other thing is that they don't always make it to the pages of the mass media, because all this is very important closely monitored, suppressed by the repressive führer. by the machine of the russian federation, i hope that the situation is there, it will develop further, especially since the verdict, i had to get acquainted with some facts, accusations, with claims against

pail alsymov, and one must understand that this is a completely fabricated case, and the essence is just ... consists, among other things, in claims against the leader of the protest movement, in inciting inter-ethnic enmity, although, ah, the one who wrote these conclusions, well, they, they simply do not understand elementary speech peculiarities of, ah, bashkirs, and are unable to analyze them, so they attribute it even protesting. and to the whole group of activists who united with him, some inter-ethnic slogans there and so on, claims that actually do not exist, therefore, it is clear that the protest movement

will accumulate there, but can he, let's say, somehow, apart from the claims of resignation now... the head of the republic will be led to more serious things, well let's hope for that, although when i saw on the video today how the gendarmes were thrown with gloves and hats, i understood very well that those metal shields cannot be pierced with a glove or a hat, well, this is such a light version of the maidan in bashkortostan and... the arbitrariness of the security forces in this situation, well, you know that, you can say it like this, to bezribyrak fish, and god forbid they eat a wolf in our calf, but it is obvious that people want, but there

are no leaders, and the organization of this protest is obvious, it wants to be better, and the situation is worse here in russia. socio-economic or can very briefly lead to some explosions, or are they used to live so badly, as many did not live there and we will not even start and everything will turn out, well , the fact is that russia is not capable of organized protest, it is capable of rebellion, razin, pugacheva, and about the russian rebellion, everything has been said about it , he is so violent that he turns around in the end. against the carriers of the ideas of this rebellion, you understand, this is the key difference between the ukrainian protest and the european protest of any european people, from the rebellion, because the ukrainian protest always has a goal, it

it has slogans, it carries meaning , it is organized, and this, well, it is just a riot, and this riot will end with the fact that this... unfortunate man will be put in a cage, for me this image will haunt me all my life, pugacheva, and they will be carried away and show how the beast all over the great russia. thank you, thank you, mr. roman, for the conversation, it was roman bezsmertny, a politician and diplomat, friends, we are working live on the tv channel, also on our platforms in youtube and facebook, we are conducting a survey, today we ask you about this, do you trust journalistic investigation, yes, no, everything is quite simple, vote, we will also vote in the second part of the program, 93% yes, 7% - no, there are discounts on tosmai, 15%, yes plantain to you and savings. kratal contains natural components that take good care of your heart. kratal

improves blood supply and the functional state of the myocardium, normalizes the heart rate , and increases physical and mental performance. kratal is the natural power of your heart. there are discounts on amicitron of 20% in psyllanyk, pam and oskad pharmacies. attention, total sale from unpack tv. super warm and very comfortable boots alaska style with a discount. your ideal solution for the cold season at an incredibly favorable price, only from uah 699. perfect fit, water-repellent material and a feeling of warmth even in 30-degree frost. alaska style boots have a versatile design and practical black color and will suit both men and women. sizes from 36 to 46. therefore , take two pairs at once for you and your husband, because they are so comfortable and warm. eternal zippers will ensure the perfect. even on the widest leg. the insulation perfectly retains heat and wicks away moisture, and the top

is made of waterproof and wear-resistant raincoat fabric and reinforced with eco-suede. alaska stayle boots can be worn both in wet weather and in very cold weather. high-quality, light and warm boots alaska style with a discount. only from uah 699. call tired of heavy and bulky saws. then pilka strong from razpak tv is just for you. it's okay with her. cut trees and bushes, it is so convenient to use it for carpentry work, it is a perfect tool for your home or garden, and the price is only from uah 1,499, a reliable battery is also included, call now and order, free delivery is possible, check with consultants, cut branches, cut timber, chop firewood, you can do all this in one go with saw strong, just look how quickly it copes with even thick branches. once it is ready, and unlike standard saws, it is so convenient to use it in hard-to

-reach places. the set includes a powerful battery, a key and a screwdriver, as well as charger. call and order a reliable and convenient tool from only uah 1,499 with the possibility of free delivery. check with consultants: a powerful strong saw is what you need! call! vasyl zima's big broadcast. two hours of airtime, two hours of your time. two hours to learn about the war and how the world lives. two hours to keep up with economic and sports news. two hours in the company of favorite presenters, presenters who have become like family to many, as well as distinguished guests of the studio. events a day in two hours. vasyl zima's big broadcast. a project for smart people. and those who care about espresso in the evening. verdict with serhii rudenko

is now in a new two-hour format, even more analytics, even more important topics, even more top guests, foreign experts, inclusion from abroad, about ukraine, the world, the front, society, and also feedback, you can express your opinion on the evil of the day with the help of a telephone survey, turn on and turn on, the verdict with serhiy rudenko, every weekday. verdict program, my name is serhiy rudenko, we continue our broadcast and our program, in this part of the program, see. eternal war. medvedev threatens not to let go, even if

ukraine joins nato. what does this mean for global security? provocations against investigative journalists became more frequent. who is doing the government a disservice with zmi. russian narratives in the media. how does an aggressor affect the information space of ukraine and the world. friends, let me remind you. that we are working live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us on these platforms, either please like this video to promote it in the trends of these platforms and subscribe to our pages on youtube and facebook. also, take part in our survey. today we are conducting a survey, a large survey , during two hours of our broadcast. we ask you this, do you trust investigative journalism ? yes, no, please vote on youtube, or with that button, yes or

no, you can write your comment under this broadcast and share. with your thoughts if you watch us on tv, pick up the phone, please, and vote, if you trust journalistic investigations, we mean quality journalistic investigations, not drains and commissioned investigations, then 0800 211 381 - 0800 2003 11 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are free, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote, i want to introduce the guests of today's studio: so, these are political experts oleg sahakyan, oleksiy holobutsky and viktor boberenko. gentlemen, i welcome you, thank you with us today good health. today we are going to have such a big, big conversation about journalists, about accusations, about surveillance, about what happens to journalists, maybe i will tell you something more

than you know, although you also know what happens in the journalistic workshop now, ah... but first of all, let's be very brief, literally in the blitz format, do you trust investigative journalism, you all have a relationship with political technologies and will probably be skeptical about investigative journalism, because part journalistic investigations are journalistic investigations, and there are some texts that are pseudo-investigations, and you must have definitely come across this, mr. viktor, let's start with you, er... the russians, excuse me for quoting a russian proverb, they have a very there is, but it is very relevant here, yes, volkadav is right, but lyudoyeet is not, and i will say that there are journalistic investigations, for example, nikolov, who is currently being attacked by the president's office, or there

are the same butusov, well and well, and we won't... repeat surnames, there are journalists, and there are pseudo-journalists who, well, let's say, there is nikolov, and there is dubinsky, dubinsky was also once thought to be a journalist, or i won't name the channels that are there, well, in the common people they call it g + g, there is no journalism there. thank you, mr. viktor, mr. oleg, well, first of all, the vast majority of what is being published now. you can't, in the middle of what is an investigation, again , i trust, but i check, because even in people with imminent nicknames, there can be situations when they are given to the bar, even among the media, which are authoritative, often they

can be used in the dark, and key it is important here that journalism is about... turning power, and this also implies responsibility, and in particular for accusations and in particular for investigations, the author is also responsible for the fact that the data there is really checked, the sources there are reliable, and these accusations are not are silent, because it is always easier to blame than to be the one who makes excuses, and if journalists really recognize and know this responsibility, they prepare high-quality investigations, and such investigations... then underlie the most significant political shifts and events, therefore, without journalistic follow-up , no democracy can exist, this is one of the key and basic necessities for democracy, after all, if there is no democracy, then there is no journalism either, it exists only in democracy, because of this, journalists are the cerberus of democracy, that is why they are are endowed with such power at the beginning of society, and

therefore we speak of the category of trust in relation to them. thank you, mr. oleksiy, do you... trust journalistic investigations? well , here the question is not trust or trust, so to speak, in journalistic investigations, in principle, this a question of some values, so to speak , ah, i have all these scandals, which, well, i don't even want to discuss them, so it is with bigus, in general, i don't understand what bigus has to do with it, my god, i have... there was also an office in which people engaged, apparently, not only in sniffing something, but in much worse activities, but i did not bear any responsibility, this is absolutely normal, we... we are not elected by the people, just like journalists, we no, we hold some positions, we are free people, free to the country, in principle, yes, if it is a crime,

please announce a criminal case , if people are resting, as they want to rest, let them rest, it's about niklov in general, the situation there is absolutely vile, everything is clear, it's a terrible situation that doesn't even want to be discussed at all, it reminds me of the situation i remember with portnikov once. well, people from old age probably remember this situation, yes, but at the moment, for me , this is a sign that the government is in a huge crisis, just, just a huge crisis, and measures to somehow to close this crisis in them, unfortunately, they are the same ones that were 10, 15, and 20 years ago... i said, therefore, the problem is not in trust, of course, everyone is known to us all, serozha, i will not

name last name, yes, he made his career on journalistic research, simply receiving a flash drive with compromising material from one structure, that's all, of course, it's not journalistic research, but still it's also a manifestation of freedom of speech, a manifestation of the carving of thoughts, this.. .. you need to be, hey, hey, even if it's just a fight of compromising materials, but that's all one thing must exist, therefore , of course, without, the question is again not in trust, in the fact that it must exist, because if it does not, other institutional possibilities, to cover certain things, first of all , corruption, arbitrariness of the authorities, in we're just gone , just gone and that's all, there's nothing you can do here , well, gentlemen, uh... so or not, but let's still talk about what happened with bigus from the company, we're not talking about any substances , which were used there by company employees, we are talking about illegal

listening and illegal video recording, therefore that as well, today the security service of ukraine is already talking about what it stated, it states that it is investigating the circumstances of the illegal video recording and wiretapping of representatives of the bigusinfo project, openly. criminal proceedings according to article 359 of the criminal code of ukraine, illegal acquisition of sales or the use of special technical means of obtaining information, well, they promise transparent and unhindered work of independent and professional media. denys bigus, who was in the south for two years fighting and arrived, as he himself admitted, on the eve of the new year. and caught this whole story and poured out this incriminating information about the operators who ordered some narcotics there, and he also commented

on this story later, he said that what struck him the most was that for a whole year it turns out that all the people who worked in his project, in the project of journalistic investigations, and fragments of intercepted conversations were edited from several episodes that were months apart, let's listen to what he said. bigus. it doesn't look like a spontaneous act of revenge for some specific material. this is a systematic, long-term follow-up and persecution to discredit the work, the team, the work she has done for years and years. and i don't know how this story can discredit our content. well, but she is. well, obviously, the logic is quite simple, what to expect from them, look, drug addicts, what they can tell there, the same in principle that was once accused

of president zelensky, when he was running for the post of the head of state in the 19th year, he went there , donated blood, proved that he does not use narcotic drugs, but this is the irony of the situation lies in the fact that it is during zelenskyi's presidency that... the story about wiretapping, about video recording with the participation of journalists unfolds, and this also in a certain way characterizes both the government and the state, because it is not only about the government and the attitude of the government or, let's say, people close to the authorities, because journalists, investigators have many people who can take revenge on them or eavesdrop on them, but not so many people who can organize this eavesdropping professionally. and videography, mr. victor, how do you perceive this story in in the context of what is happening in the state, as it is indicated, well, on general

perception and on... the fact that yuriy nikolov and bigusa's company immediately came under attack this week. first of all, sergey, you and i know everything about zelensky, and we know that he did not donate blood, poroshenko did, and zelensky was somewhat ashamed to donate blood, although he was the first to offer it. give blood and see who is sniffing what and who is doing what. er, but er, let me tell you this: all journalists, er, honest, truthful journalists are under threat, and you already are they said, i just have to confirm your thesis that, well, someone will behave, someone will believe there, and someone will later say, well , they are all the same, who do you believe, my god, what kind of investigative journalists are they? they are like poking around there, sniffing, is there something else there, something else

there? lgbt followers are there or still, well, in general , quiet horror, the matter is different, the matter is different, that’s what i would like to emphasize, that you imagine that someone is wasting people’s time, not only technical means as a resource, yes, but also some , well roughly speaking, there is technology 21 century, there are people there for the war with russia, not against, well, not against propaganda, for filming nikolov there, bigus there, butusov there or someone else, more, more, oh, and actually, tomorrow is yours they can, but we are not

sure whether they are not following... or whether they are not following vasyl in the winter, or whether they are following someone else, whether on the direct line or on the fifth, who knows, khz, and we can't make a wish , because someone spends some resource on it, and whether it is effective at a time when we need a resource on the ... front, we need it even in behind the scenes, even on your tv channel you need resources, human resources and, well, people, talent and time are needed to make it all work, but someone replaces her and someone, well who, and someone, let's say, is not very engaged in what it is necessary, here is what we need to pay attention to, and if the government is involved here, then, by the way, we also

recently asked... how many people work in the president's office, it turns out that 372 people work in the president's office, and they are engaged in this or not? thank you, sir, mr. viktor, i don't know what they want to know, well i hypothetically imagine that they are listening to something there or, well, i don't know, filming, i don't use drugs, i don't drink alcohol, well, that's how it happened historically, and i don't smoke. well, maybe they hear some conversations that i i lead on the phone or there via messengers, i just can’t, but sometimes when i mention the president’s office, you probably get confused, well, i don’t know what can be done, what they can find out, apart from the fact that i already publicly write and say , that is, but to be honest, i am saddened by these stories, why, because you mentioned the employees of our

tv channel, when... they started talking from lviv, portnikov moved to lviv, and since he was listened to, as he admitted, all the time, and various videos were recorded, then they were thrown out during the revolution of dignity from his personal private life, then in the apartment, which he filmed in lviv, they also found it by listening to the devices, and then the sbu came there and took away these numbered voice recorders. i don't know what he had in his apartment, no one gave answers to these questions, what they listened to, what they wanted to hear, because he just a few minutes ago , he wrote on facebook about what he says: i have never been involved in journalistic investigations, i have never revealed any corruption scandals there, but the fact is, i have always engaged in political analysis, which they wanted to hear also on...