the situation, it is now flourishing very strongly in europe, and i cannot understand, but where can this situation be escalated, there is nowhere else to go, there is only a nucleus, therefore, in this context, i believe that the western partners should rethink these lines, which they drew for themselves and through which they allegedly cannot cross, well, the statements are the same there . britain, france, i think, should still catch up with the story in germany regarding the taurus missiles, there recently... there was a vote on the provision of missiles taurus, voting in germany, but i want to say that there is no treason at all, why, because it was a vote on a bill that was brought by the opposition, they have another bill that has to be voted on, if i'm not mistaken, in the month of february, well, i could be wrong, bye on february 22, they have to vote in the bundestag, yes, yes, so it would be very good if they caught up with olaf scholz, which after all must be ... moved from

its place, because otherwise the war would only be on the territory ukraine, well, we will not export it, because our infrastructure will be destroyed, what are we we will forever ask for money for the budget of ukraine and we will forever ask for air defense systems , patriot from our western partners, they will not give us endlessly, so we need to somehow cover and secure us, free the hands of the ukrainians, give us the opportunity to destroy the russian military-industrial complex everywhere , sir jure, can we take the statement of president emmanuel macron about these 40 long-range scalp missiles, which fly at a distance of 250 in the export version, 560 for the british and french armies, as a possible step towards the fact that the french will give us these 40 scalps, maybe 400 of them are needed, i don't know, maybe 4 thousand of them are needed in order to smoke out the russians there. crimea

is occupied, should we hit the airfields that are near the ukrainian territory, the voronet region, drones are flying there, can it be considered that the west is considering such a possibility, they just don’t announce it, they just said, we will give you long-range missiles scalp, and you are already there, see how you will use them, well, let's talk frankly 40. rockets will not do any weather if you remember the occupied territory of our ukraine, yes, that is, together with crimea, and remember , let’s think about the russian territory in general, well, what are 40 missiles, ukraine shoots down 150 russian missiles in one attack, that is, it is clear that this does not make the weather, well but this is a kind of beginning, the main thing is that our hands are not twisted later, why are you shooting at the launchers of the voronezh region, that is the most important thing, that our hands are not twisted for... on the other

hand, let's be frank, we ourselves we still have to finish the rocket one the program, which was called the peregrine falcon, boris fen, we have thunder there and so on, we must continue to do this, unfortunately, a lot of time has been missed, but we have the technological possibilities, so we can help ourselves to free ourselves with these scalp rockets our territory, already by the production of certain things, well, the russians were flaying, eh... mr. major, one more issue is quite relevant, which was discussed today in france, unfortunately, our minister of defense rustem umyera did not fly there, you explained that there were some questions, security considerations he cannot do this, but he participated virtually in this meeting regarding the creation of an artillery coalition to support ukraine, and the minister of defense spoke about it today. and they talk about the fact that

the french ministry of defense announces that 78 caesar self-propelled artillery units will be produced for ukraine this year. if you compare the pace with which russia is trying to saturate its army with various weapons and the pace at which europe is included. well, in a conditional arms race, because in fact europe says that war with russia is inevitable, and it maybe in 3-5 years, does the european community realize enough that their pace is not so high yet, that putin at the expense of this iron, which he still has from the soviet union somewhere in the urals and in siberia, and at the expense of of the north... that it

is gaining momentum much faster than they are preparing for war, well, let's be honest, if we are talking about the ukrainian-russian war. and about the help of the western partners, if it weren't for that help, we would certainly be partisans, as i already said, maybe somewhere in the forests there in the carpathian mountains or in volyn, i don't know, so of course it's very good, but the issue of pace, well, let's talk again, okay, the installations are super-rovi, our bohdana, well, that's all, that is, it's the same 40 km plus, and the accuracy bohdana's is very high, and her endurance is high, and this is our manufacturer, our workplaces, but for this and... that installation we need projectiles, we need projectiles, for a long range active-reactive projectiles, for a closer range simply 155 caliber, you see, this is the nato standard, all countries last year, western europe together with the americans managed to deliver 480,000

shells to ukraine instead of the promised million, which is not enough, let me remind you, the russians produce about 2 million and north korea has one or two million more. today, the russians have parity in terms of artillery, something like this, it doesn’t look quite equal for us , with 20,000 of their 2-3 of our shells, well, this is a very serious problem, i understand that last year, the russians fired about 80,000 per day ukrainian positions, it was also, and we experienced all this in the trenches, as they say and experienced it, but i emphasize once again, very good tactics. chose the head of the zaluzhny in the context of counter-battery combat, that is, the destruction of the enemy's fire systems, and we destroyed a lot of them, that the russians are now taking crap to the time of the second world war, it 's true, their accuracy is weak, but

due to the number, they cover squares, cover squares, then the russians rule in the sky, the issue of the buildup of weapons of the past millennium. of course it is necessary, but i still prefer to listen to zaluzhnyi's theses, that we need to fight with 21st century weapons, you understand, and it is in this context that i emphasize that, well, let's do it, let's make it easier, is it possible to hit the caesar installation 20 km away by a tank that is moving, no, but is it possible to hit a tank that is moving 20 km away with a drone, well, there are such admissible drone systems that are currently being manufactured there that can fly even that far, it is possible, so the question is, what do we need more is needed, or how many shells are needed, so that they get into that tank, and how many drones are needed to get into that tank, and now we look at the cost, one projectile is 3,600 €, one drone is 500, let 700 €

be a little better, better, that's all, a matter of price and priorities and the question of opportunities, and the most important thing is the question of a technological breakthrough, the russians have already started large-scale production, the russians are already mastering artificial intelligence, which is driven by drones, the russians are already using thermal imaging guidance systems on drones, night vision systems on drones, who the first to master it will be may, well, i am already, sorry, i will simply say, mr. major, the very end of our conversation, i would like to hear your opinion on these discussions that have now unfolded around the mobilization bill. we have been watching for a month or three weeks, how the draft law submitted by the government was discussed, then it was again in the verkhovna rada, then it went to the government again, the government is preparing again, but there are not many changes, and it will be possible at the beginning of

february , is it permissible during the war and so on the time of need to mobilize this long-term discussion. which ones should pave the way for mobilization, is the existing legislative framework enough to make another mobilization now, and in case it will be a baked potato or a hot potato that will be thrown in the hands of the political leadership of the state? you know, i'll tell you this, if it looks like crap and smells like crap, it probably is crap, it's not a potato, it's crap that they throw from one hand to the other. as a result there is no law, but but the hands were smeared. i believe that today, in principle, the legislation that provides for the question of mobilization is, in principle, working in itself. the only thing is that it needs to be improved with issues of authority and responsibility for deviations. it is also necessary to improve the procedure for serving

subpoenas, which can be done in principle, if it is strongly desired, then by resolution the booth to which tsc employees could refer. therefore, in this context, of course, this is not a bad thing. a thing that has now come out very strongly, because before we had no problems with mobilization either in the 16th year, or in the 17th year, until the spring of the 22nd year, further, further, i think... that communication with society was a failure, that the popularization of holyanism was more , than the popularization of the protection of the homeland, and this is what caused what we have today: the army is becoming an army for the poor today, because the rich have the opportunity to pay off, have the opportunity to sweat, er, have the opportunity to find some armor or some umbrella in some structure from which people are not taken into the army, and this... is it true, or is there an option to get out of this crisis situation without even losing the rating of the dependent zelensky,

without losing the ratings, he can say yes, this is a difficult time for the country, i, the responsible president, take responsibility and introduce mine, as an urgent bill, and it must be done by rather, i think that respect for the president in this situation will not fall, even if there are some things in this bill that will not be strong. i emphasize once again, all the same soldiers will support these things, because we need to be replaced by something and someone, even if it is rotation, i'm not talking about demobilization, it's generally from the realm of fiction, but rotation, rest, two or three months, after a year people sit in the trenches, i think it should be everywhere, because otherwise... we this war on the shoulders of the army, language and faith will not reach. thank you, mr. major, for the conversation, it was the major

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congratulate you and thank you for being with us today. good evening, mr. sergey, thank you for the invitation. let's start our conversation, mr. alexander, from the united states of america. there was information that on wednesday the president of the united states of america, joseph biden, held a meeting with the leaders of the congress and the heads of specialized committees, to which called for faster unblocking of funding. and further aid for ukraine and discussed, as quoted by the american media, the strategic consequences of inaction for ukraine, the united states of america and the world. later , the wall street journal reported that byvin had agreed to tighten immigration policies to ensure aid to ukraine. how do you assess the prospect that the united states of america, rather quickly, or so... that it would still be profitable for ukraine, this speed, this decision, or

the aid that olaf scholz and germany increased almost twice for 7 billion euros, at some point they have to compensate for this lack of funding from the united states of america and our partners are deliberately working synchronously and biden on... at the expense of germany to compensate ukraine for this small time lag that arose from the moment of the last tranche of united states of america? well, first of all, it should be said that the europeans, thank god, old europe, at least in the form of germany, it understands the threat from the russian federation, i think i have said this more than once on the air. very nice research center, that is , the foreign policy council, where they said that

after this war for 5-6 years, the russian federation will be able to attack one of the nato member countries, that is, there is an awareness that the war came to europe not only on the outskirts there , unprotected by the european union and nato, but also in our good old europe itself, and of course that what olaf scholz is doing is a response... to the awareness of this threat, the second point is also extremely important from the point of view that, as you rightly said, for the time being, until the united states is able, you provide us with what is necessary, well , first of all, with finances, which are then converted into weapons, into ammunition, which europe has to, let's say, take on a certain, certain burden. the third point is the realization that a catastrophe may occur with trump's arrival in the white house, not only ukraine may be left without aid, but also

the european allies themselves, and of course, that now european capitals are thinking about it a lot. what they will do, he was left alone with the russian federation, and of course the best option is to help ukraine destroy the aggressive potential of the russian federation. returning to washington, yes, the meeting was interesting, i understand, and there are cautious, positive signals from there, from the participants. at the meeting was the national security adviser, the president of the united states, who briefed the congressmen on... what facilities provided by the united states, they end up in ukraine, and how that will affect our ability to defend ourselves, and of course that it has been used in some way such moral pressure at least, but speaker johnson maintains the position that first, the administration must make concessions on the security of the southern

border, and he said that there can be no compromises there, america's border. he should go before the ukrainian one, on the other hand, the nervous reaction of one of such regimented trumpians, margery green, that as soon as speaker johnson tries to pass or put such a law to a vote, she will, therefore, start the procedure to remove the speaker from this position, last time kevin mccartney lost position, since... this wing actually, although she did not vote then, she very much criticized this kevin mccarthy, but in fact there, i don't remember, five or six republicans voted for the removal, and then the democrats, well, in fact, in full , voted, that is , from the nervous reaction, i see that most likely there is, let's say yes,

there are certain concessions from the administration, and there is a rough understanding of what compromise can... be found in order to unblock aid to ukraine. today, the minister of foreign affairs of the russian federation, sergey lavrov, said that the west threatens russia with nuclear weapons, and not the other way around, and rejected the possibility of strategic negotiations with the united states of america. let's listen to what lavrov said. which washington is conducting against russia, no... became not only for additional joint measures on arms control and reduction of strategic risks, but also in general for any talks with the united states about strategic stability. we, of course, do not reject this idea for the future, nor do we reject the possibility of a political and diplomatic settlement of existing contradictions. however, we strictly and firmly

stipulate such a possibility in advance full refusal of the measure from the malicious course. when he says that we are ready to resolve existing political and diplomatic contradictions, he is probably talking about returning to the ultimatum that was put forward by president putin in december 21, and that we are ready to return to it, but this is a desire to translate from sick... heads to health about the fact that the west threatens nuclear weapons, and perhaps threatens in private conversations via email, special communication with the leaders of russia, is it impossible, mr. oleksandr, what do you say, no, absolutely it is impossible, because we understand that conscious people are sitting in washington, and in european capitals, and in paris, and in london, who

possess nuclear weapons, they understand that these weapons are weapons of deterrence, and never once... at least since 2014, no united states or european factor has threatened the russian federation, on the contrary , since 2014, russia has increasingly used this rhetoric, and by the way , quite effectively, because this rhetoric restrains our western partners in that what kind of weapons do they give, thank god there has been some evolution since 22 and... eh, you remember very well how they only gave us skimger javelins, and then quietly we will soon, or maybe already have f16 in the ukrainian sky, that is, in principle, these are related things. well, you know, recently putin, well, he must have thrown off the last fig leaf when he said that russia is not going to give up its conquests, and

thus we have a dekun in front of us, a complete noob, who has a nuclear club, who absolutely, let's put it this way, he is waving it around senselessly and, well, actually blackmailing the world with such things, i want to say that during... this time, starting with the creation of the russian federation, i mean, after 1991, the issue of the strategic security of revnagaga, it was in the first place, and that is precisely why , at that time, the administration of bill clinton ignored the interests of ukraine, well, at that time we were de facto allies of the russian federation, we did not want to join the eu and nato, but they also ignored the interests of his allies in central and eastern europe, and always... the issue, let's say, of control over strategic weapons, it required the russian federation to receive some concessions in the package on those key issues in

the region that interested them, but the russians themselves began to destroy the system that was created, well, actually after the caribbean crisis of 62, i mean this treaty on short and medium-range missiles, the russian federation was violating it, and... actually forced mr. trump to terminate this agreement on conventional armed forces in europe the russian federation violated and in fact came out of the others, well, in fact, it remained the treaty on strategic offensive weapons , and they show that they do not want to continue this treaty until the west makes concessions and gives russia what it wants, it is clear that it wants , it wants a sphere of influence, and of course these spheres of influence... should include not only ukraine, the americans do not agree to this, although, of course, they would like a certain stability in relations between nuclear powers, because the russian federation

and the united states owns 80% of the world's nuclear potential, but on the other hand, you know, now china's nuclear potential is growing, and there are already more than 300 warheads, they are building up their missile potential, and for five years they are gathering. to bring them up to almost a thousand, so it makes no sense for the united states to somehow tie its hands with the russian federation, let's say without taking into account, without including china in this process of control, because then they will lose in another, let's say, theater of the indo-pacific region , so not absolutely it is clear why mr. lavrov says this, things are bad in ukraine, they cannot achieve anything. they are trying to shake the unity of those who support us, thank god that it does not work in europe, only slovakia and

hungary are on the side of the russian federation, in fact the rest of the european countries understand that it is necessary to support ukraine and not succumb to such blackmail . mr. oleksandr, you have already mentioned trump, trump distinguished himself this week by making yet another statement, this is not the first time. says that he is very well knows putin and zelensky, and for him it is not a problem at all, to end the war between ukraine and russia, that he has all the tools, if he wins the presidential election of the united states of america, he will definitely do it, what is the point of this hussarism, well, i can't say trump in another way, and his efforts to convince everyone that he will reconcile everyone, biden cannot... reconcile, he will take and reconcile. we understand that the price of peace, which vladimir putin can go for, is ukraine's recognition of, as

they say, the so-called new territorial reality, well, to put it simply, when ukraine will give up the territories occupied by russia, which have already been declared russian, and this any proposal in this form from trump, in case of his victory in the elections. e will not be accepted in kyiv, what to expect from trump, or is this just such pre-election rhetoric, during which he wants to convince , first of all, not the world, but the americans, that he is completely different, and he can do everything, and it is within his power, well, you know, he's basically a demagogue, and of course this rhetoric that he's using now, it's aimed at his fans, cult members, you can't say otherwise. eh, and they very often use the following phrase: when he was president, russia did not attack ukraine and there were no conflicts of any kind, well, this is nonsense, since

we have had a conflict with the russian federation since... 2014 and there was no large-scale invasion , but there was no end to the war, this is the first, secondly, trump tried to solve the north korean problem and met with kim jong un, and what did it do? yes, there were no missile tests during trump's tenure, so kimchi, but he failed nuclear warheads, and he hasn't stopped developing missile systems, well... he now has the capability to strike the continental united states, so what trump is saying doesn't exactly correlate, so with reality, and of course, what can we say about the alternative story that if i, when i was president, something did not happen, thanking me, of course, that this is just speculation, as such, you can expect anything from trump, because he is an unpredictable person, and he is ,

he says that... it helped him in business and this helps him actually in international politics as well, we can expect from him as a positive thing in relation to ukraine, i do not rule out that , well, literally, i don’t know 5% of the probability that he will give a day to ukrainian, ukrainian and the russian president, and if thanks to or if president putin does not... go to peace, then he will provide ukraine with the help we need. i do not rule it out, but it is unlikely, given that there are a lot of negative things associated with trump's ukraine. he thinks we are helped hilary klimt in the 16th year, he believes that there was interference in the american elections for hilary clinton from our territory from the servers, he, we remember, a perfect conversation with president zelensky, which caused then,

so. in the united states, impeachment is somewhat different than that, and that is precisely why he can be convicted under a criminal article and take a seat, that is, in the white house, that is, the united states is a slightly different country from the point of view of rights. here, but also what worries those people who understand the united states, what in his there are people around who, well... have an extremely negative attitude towards ukraine, the same tucker clarkson, who is a mouthpiece of russian propaganda, in fact, he is very often shown on russian television, and he advises mr. trump on foreign policy, there are others people, therefore, most likely, if such a black swan comes to us in the form of trump, it will of course be difficult, but it is clear that neither the ukrainian president nor ukrainian society will agree

to give up part of their own territories, and of course we understand what it is, let's put it this way, this is the end of the conflict , it will only be a pause for the next offensive on ukraine, that is, we should not freeze the conflicts, by the way, i really liked the speech of our president in taos, he said that it is not the frozen conflict in ukraine, but the frozen russian assets, what is needed to stop this war, we will work with whoever , but of course we would like to see someone. unconscious joseph biden or nikki haley, well, this is the choice of the american people. thank you, mr. oleksandr, for this conversation was oleksandr khara, a diplomat. friends, we work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, during the program we conduct a survey, we ask you whether the president is responsible for the corruption of the ministry of defense. now let's look at the interim results of the survey: 92% yes, 8% no, on youtube 95.5. 15

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