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turn on the survey and turn on the verdict with serhii rudenko every weekday from 20 to 22 at espresso. information day of the tv channel in rozpol, we are now adding people's deputy oleg synyutka to our live broadcast. glory welcome to ukraine. glory to heroes. i congratulate bespress tv viewers. well, first of all we wanted to ask you about the future fate, in particular of a certain point, moment. about the state register of conscripts, yes , there is one point that caused quite a powerful discussion, in particular about the placement of data outside the borders of ukraine in certain clouds, so to speak, as far as we understand, some of the military have already voiced their certain reservations about, well and we understand that the draft law was voted on in the second reading and now it has a long road to signature, yes, but maybe still... can something be done?

i would like, speaking about this draft law, to start with the history of when it first started, because it was a proposal of european solidarity to automatically obtain an id card for participants in hostilities. you understand today's problem, when a lot, i don't want to say thousands or tens of thousands, but a lot of ukrainian servicemen have problems. in order to obtain a certificate and receive the status of a participant in hostilities. and our offer was very simple: there is a combat order, or as they say, military brk. and on the basis of this military order, you can automatically receive a certificate of a participant in hostilities. and it seemed to me that this decision would be voted by the ukrainian parliament very quickly, without alternative, and they would receive the status of law. unfortunately, when...

the review began, the authorities revised this proposal of ours, and instead of an automatic participant, automatically receiving the status of a participant in hostilities, a story with an electronic register appeared. of course, none a country, especially a country at war, cannot allow these data to be stored in cloud technologies where russian hackers can work. and that is why we did not support this point. we proposed to exclude this item, unfortunately, the majority, taking into account the position of the former opz, left this item in the bill, and today we have a potential threat that racist hackers will be able to have access to the data that the ministry of defense operates today, and should operate the ministry of defense, but i believe that such servers have to be protected firstly, and secondly to be on the territory of ukraine.

unfortunately, this law does not say so, well, maybe the president of ukraine will consider our arguments, veto it, and we will be able to finalize this part of the very necessary bill, which, i say once again, was aimed at the automatic obtaining of status by participants in hostilities. unfortunately, we have such modifications in the benches. mr. olezh, we know that the alternative bill on mobilization should reach the parliament in the first half. february, but there is already information from the ukrainian the truth is that currently the government has not changed much its proposals, which the people's deputies actually demanded to change, that's why this draft law was sent back for revision, what do you know about this alternative draft law, so to speak, and is the government really ready to propose to the people's deputies some changes in this draft law that would satisfy all parties, let's say so, of this whole process. "i don't have that information,

after all you shouldn't have that information because it's certainly very good that parliament has stopped this political theater absurdity. which lasted for two weeks, when society discussed norms that are absolutely clear, not necessary in order to strengthen the ukrainian army, it sometimes seemed to me that it was someone who specifically wanted to introduce such a distraction into ukrainian society, using, well, an absolutely necessary solution, a necessary solution , because the decision to strengthen the ukrainian army is necessary for everyone, it is necessary for the military, it is necessary for the civilian, i am convinced, it must be... the country’s authorities also need it, but what was submitted as a project, it is both in substance and in content, form did not meet these needs , i hoped that after that, when the parliament , as a result of discussions, rejected and stopped this political theater of the absurd, that

the mechanism provided for by the current legislation would start to work, because according to the constitution of ukraine, according to today's legislation, the president, the supreme commander in chief he, and only he, having absolutely all the information, military, intelligence, counter-intelligence, civilian, economic information from our partners, should introduce such a bill as the final document, and you know that we are ready to support, for the sake of unity around the armed forces of ukraine, the document that will meet the needs of the ukrainian army, if it is finalized again without a closed meeting of the national security council. of defense, without a closed meeting of the supreme commander-in-chief, and again somewhere inside the ministry of defense, this really reminds me of a desire to transfer responsibility, and not to work for the sake of the ukrainian army, for the sake of our victory, for the sake of unification for the armed forces of ukraine, so let's be

to encourage the authorities to do everything according to the law and in the interests of the ukrainian army, because it is not the task of the military to develop such bills. this is the task of the military-political leadership, and this is the task that the supreme commander-in-chief, president zelenskyi, has the responsibility to undertake. olek mykhailovych, we would also like to ask you about the case of the hrynkevich family, so why am i talking about the hrynkevich family, yes, because the businessman's son, who is currently being held in custody, was also suspected, and the son cannot be found, well, the key story is an honest s... you understand the investigation, and the main thing is to set certain fuses so that similar stories cannot be repeated in their nature, so we understand, well, what is the point of all the respect for various businessmen, if a person, for example, is frying there fish, then she should not, for example , collect telescopes, if a person was engaged

in construction there, then she should not provide the ministry of defense, or rather the armed forces of ukraine, with appropriate underwear and so on and so forth, there are still some chances to settle this whole matter. well, at the legislative level, and yours version of what is happening in the case of the hrenkiewiczs? the path to our victory without overcoming corruption will be very, very thorny, it will be strewn with the blood and sweat of our soldiers, because for every act of corruption, for every crime of corruption, whether in the ministry of defense or in any other body of state power, on alas, they pay with blood, they pay with their lives, they pay with steam. ukrainian soldiers, so the last name of the corruptors does not matter to me, the position of the corruptors does not matter to me, whether you work in the president's office, whether you work in business, any a corrupt act should be equally punished

, responsibility should be strict, quick and so that it does not happen again, from the point of view of the law, in fact, everything was settled back in... 2019, when poroshenko created the anti-corruption vertical, which culminated in the creation not only nabu, but also the creation of a higher anti-corruption court. today it is necessary to simply enforce the law, it is necessary to rid the anti-corruption law enforcement agencies of the corrupt themselves, i am convinced that then, well, there are no obstacles to overcome there will be no corruption, and therefore our victory. a corrupt person is the same. was fighting, just like the racist occupier, and this should be treated only from such positions. mr. olezh, i would also like your reaction to the statement of mr. danilov, secretary of the nsdc. he says that there is no opposition in ukraine. yes, he answered

the journalist's question that it is possible to create a national government of unity, and danilo actually said that the opposition is the people who are responsible for the processes that are currently there is... on our territory, this is the opposition, we don't have it, - said danilov. how would you react to this? you know, today is very important. united society should not be fed with various provocative theses and provocative means. today, society, which is united around the armed forces of ukraine, needs the same self-sacrifice of power as any volunteer, as a soldier at the front. and when the government cheats, it definitely does not play tricks on us, on our victory, on the tricks of our future victory. a national government is needed unity, because what is a government of national unity? it is a government of professional, responsible,

patriotic people who are able to take responsibility and lead the country to victory. this is the government that will do the job as well as the ukrainian military is doing it today. i'm just afraid that if we waste a little more time, then we will have to talk about the government instead of the government of national unity. anal salvation, time is not on our side, unfortunately, people are already very often disappointed in those representatives of the authorities who today occupy the highest offices , look at how trust in the authorities , and in all branches, is falling, this must be changed very quickly, and the instrument for such a change is precisely the government of national unity, if someone is so clinging to their seats, if someone is confident in his... infallibility, then i am convinced that this is a very dangerous person for the country. thank you, oleg synyutka, the people

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day of the tv channel in rozpala. well, we are gradually entering the informational evening. we are working on. live, now we are adding to our studio gennady khazan, president of the ukrainian aviation association of pilots and aircraft owners aopa ukraine, glory to ukraine, mr. gennady, glory to the heroes, well, they destroyed the enemy's strategic a50 aircraft. today there was already information that they added another a50, we understand what this plane does, it takes down targets, yes, well, accordingly. forms all the relevant offensive forces of the enemy, in particular we are talking about russian aviation, we understand that, well, the shot down, and the 50th south, yes, we would like to ask you in general what this plane is, how it could be shot down, and how many do you think our enemy has such aircraft in stock? interesting question,

you know, actually the a50... it is a product that was built during the times, during the times of the soviet union, it was an analogue of the american avax system, made for escort, and targets, it can escort a large number of targets, both in the air and on the ground, and this is its danger, so, in addition to all that, when missile attacks are going ukraine, this field. as a rule, these are in the air, except when daggers fly over ukraine, they are always in the air, showing targets, but actually, right now, on your screen, this moving antenna is on top of the plane, from its fuselage, so it differs from ordinary images 76, i want to say what kind

a week before the destruction of this aircraft in one of the russian... publics, the russians wrote that the destruction of such an aircraft is equivalent to the destruction of, for example, an american aircraft carrier, that is, it is protected in this way, it is protected in this way, everyone is watching over it in this way, that destroying the plane was daring, the same correspond to the destruction of the american aircraft carrier, and here it happened that it fell, something like that happened. that the car, which is heavier than air, yes, and it still followed the laws of physics and fell to the ground, the russians tried to write everywhere and say that it friendly, that we just shot it down, that's all, but there is one interesting thing, if they had shot it down themselves, then people would have already been arrested, there would already have been

cases, commissions would have already been created, that's all, but this did not happen, and in... mrs. skabieva's hate show, they showed how their soldier tricked the ukrainian fpv drone, but they did not show that such an amazing thing happened, they supposedly shot down friendly fire and shot down such a plane, i want to say and i want to note that this is a big luck for the armed forces of ukraine, it means that they have found methods, procedures, etc which can... destroy such aircraft, and i believe that they will, if possible, if there is an opportunity, will be destroyed further, in relation to the number of aircraft that are in the russian federation, the armed forces. of the russian federation is located, there are different, different data, the main thing is how many of them are working, because today there are about eight pieces in total, but how

many of them are working, because from what is known from open sources, when such an aircraft was affected in belarus, then russian experts said that we only need the antenna itself to repair from six months to a year, well, not even a year... well, we can assume that one more plane is damaged, which cannot perform its tasks, and in order for the russian system to work, we need at least, well, three planes in working order , then you need a minimum, and so an optimum of up to four pieces, if the minus, well , that is, one plane will never take to the air again, this is good, it means that the load on the rest of the planes will increase. their efficiency will be so heavy, if we manage, god forbid, to destroy one more plane, it there will be a rather serious reduction in the capabilities

of the aviation of the russian federation, in terms of escort and targeting, targeting of missiles that inflict damage on the territory of ukraine. mr. gennadiy, actually, you are saying that if we have one more, and if we have one more, we will not be able to, because, for example,... an expert in soviet russian military aviation tom cooper forbes stated that he seems to unraveled the whole idea of ​​the armed forces of ukraine, how they were able to implement all this, and actually it is about the fact that the preparation was serious, this is suppression of russian air defense in the area of ​​occupied crimea, and actually the crew of this a50 aircraft was ordered to fly closer, so to mainland ukraine and in this way... ours were able to lure him and our air defense was able to hit him, that is, we understand that if they realize , what was the phased nature of this operation, it is a well-known fact that

they will most likely not allow them to be lured and deceived in this way for the second time, what do you think, the person who made such an assumption, i think, in my personal opinion, he is fatalist, i am not a fatalist, i want to say, to point out to all of us, your listeners and viewers, the following thing about the moscow cruiser, they also said that it is a cruiser of the first rank, ukrainians can never strike, about any other ships that at that time were part of the black sea fleet, now it is no longer a flotilla, we joke, we call it a model ship circle, we also thought that it was impossible to hit ships, but a certain time comes, and we hit them. they were affected, what does this mean, what does this mean that we have military men, experts are very creative, and if you can't

slap our enemy directly, then they get that slap, you know, from the third party, and i'm not a fatalist, i'm not saying that everything is fine and tomorrow we'll pile on them 100, 500 billion, but i believe, and because i... monitor non-stop what is happening, our air defense forces, today, based on what they do, who have experience and have results, i can say with pride that they are one of the best in the world, because hitting such targets as the su-34, hitting several targets in one day, is a really developed operation, this operation was done by ours. ukrainian specialists, creative people, who, having only certain, only certain weapons, came up with a method, a procedure

in such a way that as a result of which the fragments lie on the ground, and they smoke, and traders of non-ferrous metal, metal rub their hands, they say, they collect a little money for themselves will earn, that's why i'm not a fatalist, and i think that... sorry, that from our experience , our experts will definitely come up with something else that will be used, we have many examples of this, how it happens in our country, my god thank you, without a doubt, without a doubt, mr. gennadiy, well, but if we talk, for example, about the aviation capability, about the aviation component of the enemy now, then we understand that the front line in the east has become extremely active and we understand that, well... we have worked on air targets our air defense fighters are very good, but aviation is an extremely important component for the enemy,

in particular guided air bombs. and not only them, well, accordingly, what do you think is happening in the sky now, which is partly controlled by the russians, well, you know, i'm already more year, i am talking about, for example, f-16 aircraft, yes, and if in yours, on your program , i told that we need aviation complexes in general, we have to ask, we have to ask, demand, agree on... that we have aviation complexes, a complex , for example, several three or four avax aircraft, for escorting targets, f-16 aircraft, new modifications, that is, modern modifications, and not modifications of the first half of the 90s, i think, personally, i personally consider my discretion , that the issue of aviation in ukraine is highly politicized, and ours is possible. in what

the politicization of this issue, well, this is an obvious security issue, you understand, there are many things that are obvious to ordinary people, about fpv drones, about drones in general , they have been talked about for many years, these are obvious things, and only recently one of our ministers proposed to collect fpv drones in every kitchen, without thinking about what the quality of it all will be, who will bear the ultimate responsibility. if a ukrainian drone assembled by a non-specialist in the kitchen will fall with 2 kg of explosives and die, god forbid, a ukrainian soldier, who it will bear responsibility, that's why i say, these issues are politicized, because some or certain powerful people cling to those issues in order to raise their rating, and they do something or don't do something, or only emphasize, the

f-16 issue is raised. for many years, it has been done, there are no questions, the modernization of the aircraft that are currently in service with the armed forces of ukraine, they are modernized, there is no answer, why, the question is politicized, it is necessary for specialists to do their professional work, and not to do what in it's happening now, and everyone is talking about it they say that we have in the armed forces when certain consuls come from unknown places. who were during the time of kuchma, who sold weapons, now they have appeared as consultants, they sold little, directed little, give specific examples, i understand that certain people understand what i am talking about, what i am talking about, those consultants have shown themselves 20 years ago, let's say thank you, goodbye, no, they are now appearing in the armed forces of ukraine, what will they do, that's why i say that...

it's a great pity, people who come now and are tangential to the armed forces of ukraine, there are many issues of modernization , other introduction of modern, modern weapons, it is a politicized issue, it should be done as simply as possible, less politics, and more quality, and then we will have fpv drones and any drones, and slaves, that’s all, when it was proposed, so we have to do slaves, now we have a nuclear bomb in every kitchen, now ukrainian housewives have to twist there, there’s nothing, there’s still something from carrots, beans, there will be there, what will they do, you understand when a politician when the specialist there, the minister is saying something, he must understand and the second, third, fourth, fifth step, he must know, he must finish, thank you , mr. gennady, an extremely interesting conversation, well

, unfortunately, we have to pass the word now. to our colleagues hennadiy khazan, the president of the ukrainian aviation association of pilots and aircraft owners, was currently working on espress. well, we are already saying goodbye to you in misantine and we will see you in this studio after the weekend on monday, and you will be with espresso and the broadcast will continue, so stay, and we'll say goodbye until next week. it's 5 p.m. in ukraine and a news release on the spresso tv channel, in the studio of iryna koval, is coming to your attention, greetings to all viewers. chelyabinsk took up the baton of today's large-scale fires in russia, it caught fire there.