even in a conventional war , not to mention a nuclear weapon, but we assume that america will fit in, and the russians hope that with trump coming to power, which they really hope, trump will shake nato so much that, in principle, it is possible , he will even withdraw the american troops in europe altogether, maybe he will even withdraw from the alliance altogether, as he threatened, but then, nato without america is a completely different story, nato without america, well , to be honest, even now it would not be able to withstand direct. blow to russia, so actually here in order to to evaluate it from a military point of view, the first question here is what will be the big geopolitics and first of all the big geopolitics of the states. by the way, in addition to pistorius, rob bauer, the head of the nato military committee, warned this week that the armed forces of the north atlantic alliance and the civilian population in the west should prepare for an all-out war with russia. let's hear what rob said. we must realize that peace

is not a given, that we live in peace, and that is why we are preparing for a conflict with russia, but the discussion is much broader, it is also about the industrial base and about people who have to understand that they have a role to play. mr. yevgeny, why does the world talk about a possible war with russia and not about the fact that the world should end with. country with an aggressive leader putin, that the world should carry out the demilitarization of russia, deputization, because the world is still afraid of russia, but we overcame our fear, because we had no choice, well , we were afraid too, let's be honest, and then the war began and there was no choice, and then it turned out that it is not such a terrible thing as it is portrayed, but it has not yet started for them, they are very afraid of a war with russia, moreover, these fears are very different, well, first of all, they are.

is based on the fact that russia is a nuclear power, and they assume that the russian regime is so crazy that in the event of a losing war it will simply launch a nuclear weapon on principle, but let everyone die with us, but they are afraid of the unpredictability of this regime and and his nuclear arsenal, so of course they also understand that even if they succeed to avoid a nuclear conflict, then in a conventional conflict, as you and i were just talking about, except for the combination. states , no other country is currently ready to fight with russia, but it is not technologically ready , that is, there are few weapons, for example, he is the commander of the army of belgium, also one of the nato countries, which is actively helping us, but now we are waiting for the f-16 from them , so the belgian commander directly said that, based on the current consumption of shells in ukraine, the belgian army has a backup for 18 hours of war, not 18 days, for 18 hours, and they all have about the same situation in europe now, and therefore

, of course, they are feverishly trying to catch up with the results of their 30-year sleep, they have slept in a warm bath for 30 years, they have not seen for 30 years, no wanted to see that a dangerous monster was growing nearby, moreover, they fed this monster with their money, and they did not believe that this monster would ever be able to come to them, they now understood it, but you can't do 30 years of warmth in one it's been a year there for more than a month, but they are urgently renewing theirs now defense industry, billions of dollars are now being invested there, but in addition to money, there is another dimension such as time, but you can't buy it, they are trying to catch up with us, but they need time for this, and the most unfortunate thing in this story is that actually this time is theirs now we will win, because they have time to prepare for the future war with russia, because we are here now fighting the current war with russia, literally in a week two facts that indicate that... our western partners

are ready to give us long-range weapons, and this is what french president emmanuel macron was saying about scalps, and rishi sunak, because he signed an agreement on cooperation with president zelensky in kyiv, at what stage do you think the west will say: listen, let's already use long-range missiles against military objects, objects that are on the territory of the russian federation , because... there is no way out, because if we do not destroy these military facilities located on the territory of erefia, then this war will last a very long time. i think that you correctly said the word long, i think that we have more chances to make long-range missiles ourselves. i still am i will remind you that you and i live in a country that was one of the top 3 in the world for space launches some 20 years ago.

satellites, and we launched these same space satellites converted for civilian purposes, satan's rockets, this is actually an intercontinental ballistic nuclear missile, which was made by ours. ours made about 100 units per year , yes, it was lost, for us, it’s not, it ’s not that the production line was standing all the time and it’s enough to turn the switch and rockets will fall, it’s not like that, but still we are, in principle, a rocket and space country, we have a sufficient technological level, now the question is how to organize it correctly , money is already allocated, the missile program is working, and you know, i believe more in our missile program than in the fact that our the partners will say: well, okay, we give you these missiles without prior restrictions, but you can already use them at least in moscow, although in principle with regard to britain, i completely allow such a turn and even quite soon. thank you, mr. yevgeny, for this conversation was yevhen dykiy, the former platoon commander

of the aidar battalion. friends, we work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. please don't skimp, favorite this one. video in order for it to be promoted in the trends of youtube and facebook, and remember that during each program we conduct a survey, today we ask you about whether the russian rebellion threatens the putin regime, yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube , if you are sitting in front of the tv and watching us on tv, please pick up your phone and vote if you think the russian rebellion threatens putin's regime (0800-211 380). no 0800 211 382. all calls are free for you to these numbers. at the end of the program, we will sum up the results of this vote. next with us is yevhen magda, executive director of the institute of world politics. congratulations, mr. yevgeny. glad to see you

on our air. congratulations. glory to ukraine, mr. serhiy. today you have an opportunity to make a wish between two yevgenys. glory to heroes. i will do so, mr. yevgeny. which you have disappeared somewhere, please reconnect with yevhen magda, and now we will talk with yevhen about what is actually happening in ukraine, in particular in the ministry of defense of ukraine, because we see that corruption cases around the ministry of defense simply arise almost every day and we see it. that the state bureau of investigation has already announced the wanted list of roman grenkevich, the son of the detained lviv businessman ihor grenkevich, who had large contracts, 23 contracts with the ministry of defense of ukraine, and we know that three of

the five members of the so-called organized criminal group, to which ihor was involved hrynevych, yesterday the court already chose a preventive measure. the measure is an arrest with an alternative bail of half a billion hryvnias. so, mr. yevhen, when we look at these corruption scandals, we obviously have to talk about how it could happen that the owner of construction companies became the largest contractor of the ministry of defense and caused losses of uah 1.5 billion, well that is, in the current conditions of economy and the understanding that every penny... should be counted, how could this happen? he carried it to the mountain, well, but the mountain is the same, well, when it comes to such money, then obviously the highest mountain should have looked at all these things, and not not not be

a part of all this, and if this mountain was a part of all this, then the sbu, together with the sbu and the prosecutor general's office, should also... give some definite conclusions, if they they don't give this, so what does this indicate? first of all, i will say one unpopular thesis that in democratic countries people often profit from war, this is a historical experience, they profited from the first world war, someone profited from the second world war, in different ways, but you know, i think that on such a scale abuse as in ukraine, well... it is difficult to say definitively, because the war is ongoing, and we probably do not know everything and cannot say, but it was still hard enough to imagine, we are still living in the paradigm of the first and second world wars, in what's the point, when everyone was bad, there were products on

cards, remember how our grandparents talked about them anyway, but also in the soviet union, by the way. for example, there were commercial restaurants that people could go to there in moscow itself, well i'm not talking about that right now, secondly, this case, well, it's... uh, intensive information promotion, i personally get the impression that there is a certain feeling of a false object, because this case is so actively publicized a number of contenders for the status of leader of public opinion, with such anti-corruption fervor , expose abuses, which gives me the impression that after the end of the russian-ukrainian war, we will not

only have new oligarchs, as is already said, for example, by the western press, but there are new anti-corruption officers, better than others, where they have gone the previous anti-corruption activists in their mass, who, as you remember, probably promised to demolish zelensky in case of anything, well, this was true before the beginning of a large-scale invasion, it is necessary. notice, because in the conditions of war, any call to overthrow the existing government , in my opinion, it will not be useful, it must be understood absolutely clearly and absolutely by everyone, but the absence of these calls does not mean permissiveness for our government, because the people who came to power en masse in 2019, in my opinion... just not passed the test of war, they

failed the test of their own effectiveness, they failed the test of the fact that they were actually unprepared for war. i am not saying any concrete things now, they were unprepared for the fact that the war itself, a large-scale war, would last for so long, and this at... today's moment represents a serious problem for you and me, because in the conditions of war, quite natural things happen, i emphasize, the natural concentration of power in one hand, in the hands of the supreme commander-in-chief, here it is, by the way, to a large extent provided by the legislation, but when phrases are heard from our powerful olympians that... we don't have an opposition, i'm sorry, but where did it go, we

don't have an opposition at all or what? it shouldn’t be like that, well, that’s how they talk about the fact that journalists don’t even exist, you know that in 2019, when zelenskyi’s team came to power, andriy bohdan, the head of the office of the president of ukraine, said that we don’t have journalists at all needed, we have bloggers there and there are social networks, we will directly communicate with... people, and here we see in fact, the consequences of this, the development of this thesis, and during the last five years, this all happened, because we saw how drain tanks appeared in telegram channels, which were used in the office of the president of ukraine and began to be perceived as a means of mass information, although there are a lot of questions about who keeps these drain tanks there, what kind of information they spread, and now we see that... to discredit those people who are engaged in journalistic investigations,

it is the team of denys bigus, yuriy nikolov, who works in our money, people who write about corruption in the ministry of defense, people who say that public finances are spent on some kind of monitoring are stupid, and i'm sorry, i can't put it another way, of dubious quality, let's say, monitoring, and millions go there. of money suddenly become the object of close attention of unknown people. the sbu says that we will find everyone, the police say that we will find everyone. well, in this situation, the most important thing is that both the sbu and the police do not act on themselves, because when it comes to surveillance, we are talking about eavesdropping, about systematic journalists. the answers to these questions should be quite strict and timely. and such that it would not be proper for others to observe or spy on journalists,

how do you think our state looks now in the eyes of our western partners, taking into account the facts of pressure on journalists, it looks bad, because it is one of the foundations of our opposition to russia. it is a statement that we are fighting not to become subservient to russia, and we are fighting not to become a little russia, so to speak. and accordingly, this is, well, in my opinion, a very serious point, because if we do not effectively prove that we are not russia, russia light, or little russia, then we will not get the support of the west, it is absolutely

obvious, therefore, we need to demonstrate that we are democratic. a country in which democratic mechanisms work, in which democratic things work, and we can actually ensure effective interaction, well, it is not for nothing that journalists are called the fourth power, and social networks are called the fifth, and when they start through social networks, social media, well, there are more messengers, is starting, well, under them, to change the fourth power, then this is not a very good result. well, look, an interesting phenomenon. we currently have a printed press , i think you know this, no worse than me, it is going through very difficult times, and why in the leading countries of the european union and in the united

states, not every newspaper has gone bankrupt. dievelt, the economist, these are newspapers and magazines, they did not go anywhere, some of them remained as fat, just people they read the press there and they form accordingly the financial independence of these publications, which of course have owners and which of course have their own interests, but in my opinion they do not promote them the way it is done in ukraine. we already have is being replaced by telegram channels, anonymous telegram channels of what should be and create media interest for the whole society, why are we in such a situation, it is not quite good for us, well, because mr. yevgeny, and the owners of media projects as well suffer from the authorities,

now i will not talk about the owner of the media company, but about the owner. although ihor mazepo, head of investment company concordd capital, who was detained at the border, he was traveling to the davos world economic forum while crossing the ukrainian-polish border was detained, he appears in the case as the customer in the case of the illegal privatization of land plots in the coastal strip of the kyiv reservoir , ihor mazepa was bailed at... uah 700 million, and his brother at uah 500 million, and a court was supposed to be held today that would choose a preventive measure for ihor mazepa, the trial was postponed, but let's listen to what mazepa himself said about what happened to him. this plot of land, which belongs, supposedly

belongs to hes and is supposedly a water fund, it is three, with... with something like a thousand hectares, and i am charged with the illegal illegal purchase of 2 hectares, not 2, but 2 hectares, and for this the investigating prosecutor asks for a deposit of 700 million dollars, and hryvnias, excuse me, estimating the hypothetical loss to the state at 7 million hryvnias. mazepa is a famous businessman and a person who... who is known abroad because he has him investment company, and it is clear that he communicates with his colleagues in europe and in general in the world, again, how can you explain this whole story that is unfolding before our eyes, and obviously mazepa will not be the last businessman

to come under the attack of law enforcement bodies well, you know, if the law enforcement agencies work like that, then the question arises, somewhere the connection with yevhen mata disappeared, friends, we will now restore contact, sir, mr. yevhen, please speak, so i think they have react to this, to that... well, more effectively, but what is happening in the current situation, well, we have an investment climate already in the conditions of war, sorry, it is not blooming brightly . and to say that we just have a queue of investors , that would be an exaggeration, even mr. shurma said about this that there is no appetite for foreign

investors, he said this in davos, and when a ukrainian investment banker is arrested during the factory forum, then elementary corporate solidarity works, that's the thing, it's absolutely. obviously reflected on the various moods of people who will, well , that is, i understood that, judging by the bills, that an investment banker who handled tens and hundreds of millions of dollars decided to bring a certain amount of cash with him, and he was so stupid that he was carrying it is obviously more than what can be exported by law, well, i... i don’t know who it is, who it benefits, it seems to me that it is absolutely not in ukraine’s favor, because the investment climate is unlikely to improve in this way, and who

benefits , well we will find out, i think enough quickly, although this is a very interesting precedent, when a bond is set 100 times more than the amount, it is proposed to set a bond 100 times more than the amount of the damage caused, but i personally have the impression that the damage that was caused mazepa could, well, pay, i won't say from pocket money, but for him to pay 7 million uah was quite a lot. i just want to remind you that in civilized countries people are not detained for property crimes, well, with such pathos, if you like, they are detained there for such, for crimes directed against a person, and property crimes. well, as a rule, it is a restriction of freedom, and not, that is, a restraining order or night or some kind of house arrest. therefore, we see a not very good trend, we

see that ukraine is seriously losing its attractiveness in the eyes of the western world, we are losing in various directions, and this is a serious problem. if we remember that within literally...one week, mazepo was not only detained, but also failed to agree on a bill on mobilization, then i think that many western partners have the question is, why do we help them when they themselves cannot concentrate, and i, for example, have not heard of initiatives on the sequestration of the state budget in order to better provide for some of the needs of the armed forces. did we have such effects of the initiative, although the verkhovna rada seemed to be working there this week, approving something, and accordingly , i do not hear the topic that we need

a government of national unity in order for it to work more effectively. we find ourselves in a situation where our image receives almost daily preschool blows, and in the format own goal, as they say in football. and these goals into their own goal, they, well, you know, if you hit the golden gate in the middle of the city of kyiv with a ball, it means not only to damage the architectural monument, but to show that you simply do not understand what they are for they are standing there, but mr. yevgeny, well, these are all stories, they are very reminiscent of the times of viktor yanukovych, that is, before... businessmen there, the rink just ran over them in relation to journalists and other points regarding corruption, why do you think people

who came to power at a fairly young age age, why do they turn into those against whom the revolution of dignity fought 10 years ago, maybe they just don't know how to read? well, i have no rational assumptions, how people living in the modern world, they do not understand that, as leonid kuchma said, it has already happened, that is, even more so if they, well, let's remember another scandal, order monitoring there about what is said not only about the leaders of the state, but about the advisers of the head of the president's office, what is said in the information space. you understand which one level, it is called to bring media monitoring to the plinth level, if that is what we are looking for.

reviews on social networks, then the next step , i think, will be to study the inscriptions on the fences, where they are, for example, somewhere in the hinterland, you can do a whole, i would say, even very, very interesting study about who and how he responds to the situation in ukraine. thank you, thank you, mr. yevhen, it was yevhen magda, political expert, executive director of the institute of world politics. friends, we are working live on the tv channel, also. on our youtube and facebook platforms, like our video. in the course of our program, we conduct a survey, we ask you whether the russian rebellion threatens the putin regime. now we will look at the intermediate results of our voting, because in the second part of the program we will also continue this voting. 32% yes, 68% believe that the russian rebellion does not threaten putin.

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is already writing about the pressure on... journalists yuriy nikolov and the team of denys bigus. what's next? corruption in the ministry of defense, scandals and arrests continue, who profit from the war during zelensky's presidency? we work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. please, in the course of our program, we conduct a survey and we ask you to answer the question whether the russian rebellion threatens the putin regime, the event. that are happening in the office right now, is it threatened or not, and is the growth of this rebellion going to somehow, in some way , prevent the putin regime from doing what it's doing. if you believe that the russian rebellion threatens putin's regime, you can call 0800 211 381, no, 0800-211382, all calls to these numbers are free, vote at the end of the program

and we will match. the results of this vote, today, like every friday, we have a journalism club, i want to introduce our guests, they are the best journalists of ukraine, olga len, author and host of the chronicle of information war program. hello, olga. good evening. marina danylyuk yarmalayeva, tv presenter, author and host of censornet and showbiz youtube channels. marina, i congratulate you and i am glad to see you. i am also glad to see you, my best wishes to all to the audience bohdan butkevich, broadcaster, author and host of censurnet youtube channels and the bisika show. bohdan, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. i congratulate you. come on, let 's start with our blitz. i understand that this is purely theoretical, we are asking about the russian rebellion and purely theoretically that it can somehow hinder or, let's say, influence putin's regime. but how much do we

ask our viewers, i can't... i can't help but ask you literally in a few phrases: yes, no, and what do you think about it, marina, is the russian rebellion threatening the putin regime? i don't believe in russian riots, because they still have something to eat, and when the russians have something to eat, there will be no rioters. bohdan, well, maybe, i also think that the regiment, only as long as they have russian power. therefore, if you remember the soviet one, there is a lot of it now , unfortunately or fortunately, we are starting with the way, but it is the 81st year, not earlier, we have some problems with the sound of bohdan butkevich, if possible , please redial it and install it normal connection, olya, well, i don't think so they will not have anything to eat, then they will rebel more strongly, rather the opposite.