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the war has already started in 2024, we have just started, we are already predicting that it will continue next year, well , this war is beneficial to a certain stratum of the israeli politicians, i am closely following the military and political analysis on the ground, according to the israeli military, the operation is going on for about its third year . stage, it is conditionally divided into four, that is, now the israeli military command controls approximately 2/3 of the territory of the gas sector, and one of the divisions out of four has already been withdrawn from the gas sector last week, that is, it can be said that the hostilities in the gas territory are slowing down to a certain extent, unfortunately, the losses among the civilian population are increasing, of course, there
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are currently figures of 24,000 dead and about 60,000 wounded, but, in my opinion, , the actual military operation may end much earlier, in the future, the question is whether a military operation will begin in the north on the territory of lebanon from the side of hezbollah, but we see... well , the diplomatic activity of the united states of america, its diplomatic representatives are actually in lebanon, are constantly and they are trying to convince to stop hostilities , at the same time shelling continues from lebanon, and i want to say that today i am in eilat, i just met with the ukrainian community, and i am extremely impressed that... people continue
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to gather in the central square every week and with ukrainian flags, and today, i see that the hotels are full of temporary displaced people, about 200,000 israeli citizens from the north and from the regions close to the gas sector are displaced living in hotels far from hostilities, this usually happens in the government's account and... and it certainly confuses the citizens, people want to return to their homes, but it is impossible, especially from the territory of lebanon, the threat continues to remain, and frankly, it is impossible to predict now when the confrontation will end. i think in answer to your question that in the territory of the gas sector, most likely the clean-up will end, well, we can assume in a month or two, and ... the big
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question is whether a large-scale war will start in the north from the lebanese side, that is now predictable no one can, well, you can add there are also missiles and drones sent by the kussid from yemen and they fly to the south, as well as shelling from the territory of syria, so it's fun here and, unfortunately, the situation is far from the end of the conflict, here is kalisk. during his trip to israel, he said that there will be metastases, so what we are observing now, you already mentioned the houthis, but also about lebanon, but there was an exchange of missile strikes between iran and pakistan, this is not part of these metastases ? look, i am the ambassador to israel, i will comment on what is happening here, we have other diplomats responsible for pakistan, me.
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i see the big picture and the way i understand it for myself, that unfortunately iran is gradually getting involved in hostilities itself, that is, before it acted through its proxies, which it finances on the territory of those states that we mentioned, and now it is finally starting to act on its own, but it's already a heavyweight, it's not the houthis, it's not hezbollah with hamas, it 's a powerful state that, despite 30 years of sanctions, you see is producing quite modern missiles, drones, and, i see the effort the united states, first of all, which is trying to stop iran's actions related to its involvement in a larger-scale military aggression in the region. thank you, mr. yevgeny, yevhen korniychuk, the extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to israel was on our air, we talked about what is happening in the middle east, like the israeli one. models can help ukraine
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saturday 17:10, sunday 18:15 at espresso. verdict with serhii rudenko, from now on in a new two-hour format, even more analytics, even... more important topics, even more top guests: foreign experts, inclusion from abroad, about ukraine, the world, the front, society, and also feedback connection you can express your opinion on the evil of the day with a phone survey, turn on and turn on, the verdict with serhiy rudenko, every weekday from 20 to 22 on espresso. we continue the saturday polyclub , dmytro dzidorov and vitaly portnikov, this is the second part of our program, where mr. vitaliy will analyze the issues that were this week, the most relevant and hot, and today we already told mr. vitaliy about
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meeting forms, the economic forum in davosi, i suggest starting with him then, volodymyr zelensky urged partners not to experiment with delaying aid. ukraine, however, held a series of meetings with ursula fonderlajen, with blinkin, with the secretary general of nato, and they all assured that they would provide this assistance, and they say that there is no such thesis that the conflict will be frozen, will she still be present, or will she be given confidence that there is no such thesis for ukraine? it seems to me that in order to freeze the conflict, both sides must agree to this, and i don't... desire to freeze the conflict either on the ukrainian side or on the russian side, because we have already discussed this thesis of the former president of russia dmitry medvedev, who said that the very existence of the ukrainian state will be the cause of further wars on our territory, this is such a sacred truth, i think that
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someone should have illusions until the moment we can create an effective the system of containment of the russian federation on the territory of ukraine will be an arena for wars, such a training ground for russia, i think. not only ukraine, other former soviet republics as well, it's just that it's not their turn yet, and it's simply necessary to realize and think about how to create such a security system, and by and large these meetings in davos are part of efforts to create such a security system, because even if we suddenly want to freeze conflicts, the west wants to freeze conflicts, the russian federation will not give it to us , and that's why i think it's absolutely right that we have this 10-point peace formula, many people say, you know, but these points can never be fully implemented, of course you can think so, i don't see now no mechanisms to force russia to withdraw its troops from the occupied territories without the use of force, to force it to accept the territorial integrity of ukraine, to punish russian
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war criminals who are the leaders of a nuclear state and themselves are ready to punish everyone they can get, like us we know, not only by words, but also by actions, because they send their... agents to various countries of the west with poison, engage in sabotage, murder, and are completely protected by their own, their state, their special services from some punishment for their crimes. and there are a lot of such points, but this is the program at most, even if you imagine that sometime after the hostilities, at the moment of the finalization of the war, whenever it will be, now they say that the war can continue for another two years, five years, i don't know how long it will last, but in any case, if you imagine that there will be some kind of meeting between russia and ukraine, because only russia can end the war from ukraine, no one else. then there should be our formula and there can be a russian formula that will be completely opposite, we
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we also know it, it is also maximalist , the recognition of territorial realities, that is, our recognition that what is occupied by us is theirs, and what is not occupied is also theirs, zaporizhzhia, kherson still want, of course, i think that they want more, they also want kharkiv , they want, they and kyiv, they want, they generally want everything they can bite into, denazification, that is, the destruction of the very ukrainian... character of the state, if, if it will continue to exist at all from the russian point of view , demilitarization is so that there is no army, well, this is also a program with which no one will ever agree, but russia knows for sure that if even she has to talk about something, she should demand the maximum, that's when two maximums meet, then of course there may be some opportunity for negotiation, although i will tell you honestly, i do not those people who believe in the possibility of reaching an agreement with the russian federation, i generally believe that if this war is... read in the following years, well , experts are already talking about the 20s as the time of this war, well, including
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2029, it can also be, it must be clear understand and not cry any additional illusions, then it can end without an agreement with russia, with the fact that a strong security perimeter, air defense, a strong army will be created, something that will force russia to stop hostilities, but not a war, no... no i can even imagine such a thing, but it has happened so many times, well, we have talked, we have talked repeatedly about the korean peninsula, dmitry, that a korean scenario is possible, but one must understand a simple thing: south korea absolutely did not want to sign peace with north korea, because it believed , what it must liberate the entire territory of the korean peninsula from the communists. as much as the united states wanted an end to the war, it did not want further confrontation with the soviet union. night korea also wanted the war to end because it didn't want to lose that territory, and
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the people's republic of china wanted to continue the war because it hoped to take revenge and try to occupy something further south, so it was a rather strange situation, the goals of washington and pyongyang were not coincided with the goals of saul and beijing and moscow until the death of joseph stalin, although they were on different sides of the barricades, and as a result , south korea never signed this peace agreement, so there is this line of confrontation. it is as if troops are standing on it in accordance with a certain agreement, under which there is no signature of the president of the republic of korea, and no korean dignitary, so there may be different options, but many say that wars end at the negotiating table, not all and forever, there may be a war that will be suspended without any agreements, just de facto, that's how de facto transportation is now grain on the black sea, you do not have an agreement with russia, it formally does not agree with the fact that this grain is moved, it... now it can mine the black sea to blow up courts, and turkey, bulgaria, romania can
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mine the black sea to the courts were held, but there is no agreement, and the russian-ukrainian war, believe me , can end, stop just like that, without any meetings of the presidents, without any negotiations of the delegations, just like that, there will be a period while the parties will either accumulate strength for a new round confrontation, but... or look for opportunities for political agreements that will be 5 or 10 years after the actual cessation of hostilities, but we have to say clearly how we envision this perimeter of agreements, even if these agreements are reached 200 there 37 or in 2045, how old will you be? oh, i didn't count 45, but we'll count plus 20, somewhere around 20, 45-46 years old, well, you 'll be there at that age, you'll see how it will look. ethical settlement. and there may not be a war at this time for a long time. and till
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things, thanks to the fact that we will take this position for the protection of international law, we can win it as a result, because nothing happens statically. and the least static is russia itself. we have already seen it. it is static, static, static. and then bang. and everything suddenly changes, like in some, you know, accelerated scenario. we are already dealing with a completely different state body. and as for aid, well, aid should not be talked about in vain, because the people who are engaged in aid now, they are there in washington, and they are located... in brussels and in european capitals, and there are two formulas that have already become completely clear to me: there is an american formula, aid, that president joseph biden is trying to persuade congress to vote for aid to ukraine, that's why he's making concessions on the border, and former president donald trump
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wants congress not to vote for aid, and so he's asking his... supporters to do everything they can to say that biden is not making enough concessions and not to vote for aid. officially, republicans say that it is not about helping ukraine, but in fact that is why they do not vote on a compromise on the border, so that there is no money for us. and this is the reality, because now, when the senators in the republican party say: listen, we have reached a historic agreement with the democrats, such a chance. we won't be able to solve our problems, as is the case now with the border. trump says no, don't vote, no, don't vote, and now a lot will depend on house speaker mike johnson. but this agreement, i want to note that it is a migration agreement, that they want, joe biden made concessions, this is because biden wants to help ukraine, or to raise
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his rating, because 60% of the citizens of the united states of america are dissatisfied. his migration policy, of course, but the fact is that these concessions that biden made contradict his political visa, which he insisted on for 40 years on migration policy, so that he can make such concessions only to help ukraine , i say that there are completely opposite intentions, biden is ready to change his political course for good republicans to help ukraine, and the republicans are ready... first of all, president trump is ready to give up such an opportunity not to help ukraine, i just insist, it's not about the border, it's about this vote in ukraine, and here is mailery taylor green, one of the most such majors tyler, one of the most ardent supporters of donald trump, she has already
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warned speaker johnson that if he puts this package to a vote in the house of representatives, it will be defeated. on the question of his resignation, and now there will be such a moment the truth, because when this budget extension was voted on, temporarily, there were 106 republicans, as i recall, voting for it, 105 against it, so johnson seems to have a one-vote majority to retain office, it's a very, very risky thing, a fragile summer, on which it is possible, to what extent he will be ready to risk his career for the sake of helping ukraine? i don't know, because his predecessor, who risked deals with the democrats, kevin mccarthy, he not only lost the position of speaker of the house of representatives, he lost his political career, he has to was to leave the house of representatives, former president mike pence, who did not support donald trump during the storming of the capitol and burned, in fact, the results of the election,
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allowed joseph biden to become president of the united states by procedure, he actually lost popularity. the republican party, uh, there are many such examples now, people who don't support donald trump have no chance to make a political career in the ranks of the republican party. donald trump has effectively taken over this party and now everyone republican congressmen are forced to follow his views, contrary to their political position. this is the reality, and that is why , in principle, the issues allocated to us help , to be honest, it is very... doubtful, we may have a chance, but with each new week of these negotiations , we are losing it, remember, they said that there would be a vote on the eve of the new year, ugh, then what will be the vote after the holidays, already on january 20 there is no satisfactory result, some compromises are being reached in the senate, in the house of representatives,
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it does not even smell like a compromise, and most importantly, that i think after this speech by trump, the senator... may change their line, newt gringrich, one of trump's supporters in the senate, clearly said that mikey johnson should hold his line and not put this package up for a vote, here's the answer to the question , so this is a problem, the republicans have even been asked by biden's assistants, they say that the situation is critical, let's vote, it's strange, it's incomprehensible to all ukrainians, i understand their current state to... the united states of america, although they provided very big a big aid package , and trump is constantly heard in our conversation with you, and this week he won kuku syvavy . this means that after all
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, trump will return to the presidential chair, to the presidential chair, we do not know what it takes to win the presidential election, but he has every chance, if he is not stopped by some courts, to become the republican presidential candidate, more it is not known, we cannot somehow predict the results of the presidential elections in the usa. because they are not predicted, because they depend not on the overall rating of the candidates, but on the vote in the so-called problem states, and that is also changing quite a bit now, because all of a sudden it turns out that states that are considered traditionally democratic, traditionally republican are changing his favorites against the background of this fierce confrontation between the two parties, so that in principle the results of the presidential elections are not predicted and will depend, i b said by accident, i will remind you that when... he became the president of the united states, he lost the presidential election by the total number of voters, it seems that a million citizens, a million more people
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voted for hillary clinton, which did not prevent donald trump from getting a beautiful victory in the presidential race, because he received a greater number of votes, this is such a feature of the system of the electoral federal state, this is one. moment, i think that all these scandals are helping him, even in his eyes to the electorate, this is the second point, if there is a court verdict on some criminal case, it can hinder him, but we still don't know how, then we need to understand what trump wants. look, if we don't get money from the united states this year, i don't think it will significantly affect the front line in this whole situation, because 2024 is a year for russia, for ukraine, to gather some efforts and opportunities. in principle , i think that a situation may arise when at the end of 2024 we will be in the same
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situation as in 2023. but it will be 2025. and in principle, trump can believe that if he is elected president, and he will immediately start consultations with vladimir putin, regarding settlement of the situation, ukraine must understand then that it does not have the strength to fight, because it will not have additional resources, it will not have money precisely for 2025, and some kind of real mediation will be expected from donald trump, and ukraine will not be able to deny him , his own formula for the plague, trump is expected these 24h. hours, about which he is forever talking, but he won in iowa immediately reminded of this, in 24 hours he promised to stop the war in ukraine again, and i will tell you
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what will happen in 24 hours, in 24 hours it will turn out that putin has it in his nose, so to speak, that there are no real agreements with the president of russia on any he cannot reach compromise terms that putin will clearly tell his advisers that he wants to knock out all of ukraine immediately. and the lifting of sanctions around the world, and trump is on a rampage, as always happens with him, and will begin not only to help ukraine, but to try to destabilize the situation in some other regions important for russia, and most likely not only there will be an increase in the scale of the russian-ukrainian war, because a person like trump can absolutely calmly, after being disappointed by putin, give permission to fire missiles at the territory of russia. and in principle a big war, i think in principle that the election of donald trump as president may be a prelude to a direct confrontation between the west and the russian federation with
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completely unforeseen consequences. in principle, we must understand that the election of trump as the president of the united states in november - this is a prelude to the great war, because trump, unlike biden, will not calculate the consequences of his actions. he is a politician who first strikes and then thinks, he will start, i would say so. he negotiates first, and when he does not see this respect for himself , which he is counting on, he rages and begins to think how he can destroy someone who treated him without much respect, and it must be said that trump's ego is not proportionate from the ego of putin or his xi jinping, because trump, quite logically, is the president of the united states, putin's ego exaggerates the importance of his state, in... in principle, his trump corresponds to the importance of his state, yes, he is an egocentric person, but he definitely understands what he is governing, and putin does not understand what he is governing, he does not runs something
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comparable to america. so trump may think that putin realizes this, but putin considers himself trump's equal, not having the opportunity trump, here are the perfect conditions for the third world war, for hitting moscow with some nuclear missile and a nuclear missile there is no washington, there is no putin , there is no trump, there are no 10-20 million people there, you and i, if we survive, write excellent reports about this whole story, well, or if there is television , then we tell, and if there is not, then some fools will replace us will learn this. will tell others about trump and putin. as for telling, on this, on these, on this week, very high-profile events happened with ukrainian journalists. president volodymyr zelenskyy instructed the security service of ukraine to find out about the circumstances of the illegal surveillance of bigusinfo journalists, in particular. and they already reported on the bigusinfo portal that 30
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people did all this, that's all. established, mr. vitaly, who in your opinion is doing this, why, is this some kind of return to the fact that journalists are being persecuted by the journal, well, it is not even persecution, it is just illegal interference in personal life and pressure, but again, exactly you ask, who is it, let it be... the special services will be able to answer this question to president zelensky, he has already given the relevant mandate, it would be very nice to find out when at the beginning of this i found the great war in my apartment in lviv, eavesdropping on the bailiff, i also said that in my opinion, the security service of ukraine, which , by the way, is continuing this investigation, and somehow it disappeared somewhere, and i do not know anything about its consequences, i don't know if i was requalified as a victim's witness,
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although i submitted such a request to the investigator. in the appropriate form, why i believed that it was necessary to find out who did it and what it was, because i believed that the lack of reaction to this case, whoever did it, russian special services, some private offices or the ukrainian state itself, this creates a feeling of impunity, and the feeling of impunity gives the opportunity to take new steps in this direction, and as a result, we all fall into the abyss. because people who feel this sense of impunity in a state that is completely dependent on the democratic world, sooner or later some actions are carried out that come to light, and our allies say to us: god, how is it, we are helping you, because you are a democratic state, you have freedom of the press, and you turn out to be like this writes the investigator from zabinfo, do you book hotel rooms in order to place
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equipment there and pick them up? what kind of delusion is this, now publications in western newspapers about this story with a portrait of zelensky, as before, these publications were about russia and with a portrait of president putin, we absolutely do not need our president and our state to act in such a dubious role , you just know, then there will be a war between two russias, and a war between two russias is exactly what putin needs, and not what we need, because absolutely smart people understood that if these are two russias, then it is better to have one great russia, controlling this small, incomprehensible one, and then there will be only one. stability zone, and the same sanctions against everyone, there will be no need to invent any new ones, so it is definitely not in our interests, it is definitely in the interests of ukrainian society, because in conditions when power is actually concentrated in one hand, when we perfectly understand, that the president of ukraine, at least until the official end of his term of office in march of this year, there is no real alternative to either reaction
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from the parliament. which is completely monopolized by this amazing party, neither from the government , which we generally mention only when the president himself mentions it, nor from the judicial system, which is also in a peculiar state in wartime conditions, the only opportunity to point out the government's mistakes, and not there can be a government without mistakes, there is media, and this is also media that exists in the era of this completely without... senseless telethon, which in turn is such a reflection of the clan between the self-righteous and the oligarchic, and also not enjoy public trust, so the government itself should be interested in journalists expressing their opinions, criticizing those other political actions, pointing out to it some of its wrong
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