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he served in sevastopol for a year, and when the russian aggression began, he remained loyal to ukraine. we met with the command of the russians, that is, with the medics, their head of the medical service, i don’t know what the group is called, but it was bigger than the crimea, i think it was the southern district or something like that, but there was a georgian colonel, so and when we talked with them... he said that, in principle , the situation was similar to the one that existed during the collapse of the union, when everyone chose the side for which he would serve in the future and where he ukrainians will remain in ukraine, russians in russia or vice versa, and then i was simply asked in a conversation how he would behave if such a situation happened exactly on the contrary, we offered him to go over to the side of ukraine, he remained silent and further conversation on there was no such topic. the russians
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denied their participation in those events, then there were their tamnets , yes, there were little green men, but well, we had security at the checkpoint, we were not able to take out any russian equipment, equipment, etc., yes, well... .that's what i understand there were russian servicemen, but without identification marks, we were not able to take either laparoscopic racks or computer or tomographic ones, but here i had a chair with me, and i cut it out. after the beginning of russian aggression in crimea, military doctors dispersed to hospitals in different cities of ukraine. hryhoriy prokhorenko continued his service in lviv. we were simply expanding our arsenal, well, that is, if we did, let's say , laparoscopic appendectomies or chalicectomies in peacetime. then they began
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to introduce laparoscopy in the military injuries, vascular surgery, traumatology , severe wounds with soft tissue damage, i.e. they required a review of tactics, i.e. the use of external fixation devices, the material base was improving, i.e. new research methods appeared, ultrasound devices, portable ultrasound devices, endoscopic ones. which allowed taking pictures, receiving images right away, you could have the opportunity to consult them with specialists, let's say, being in a mobile hospital, those who are in the center or in kyiv, evacuations are constantly going to us, from us. are new patients
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new injuries that need to be examined, investigated, helped, operated on, and these operations are not the same as in pendicitis, you operated, discharged and everything, no, these are staged surgical treatments that constantly need to be repeated, the situation must be reassessed, the same vacuum systems must be reassembled , to look behind the fragments, but for traumatologists , this is wound depressurization, and this is work with stumps, this is work with stomachs, breasts and so on, that is , one patient, he, unfortunately, cannot recover from one surgical intervention, this is a set of measures that need to be conducted for to stabilize and enable this injured person to stand on his feet. all the efforts
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of the wounded and surgeons and nurses and all the staff, they gave their positive result, well, now we have a boy who came to us at the beginning of the 22nd year with an amputated limb with a severe wound in the stomach, and we have been for quite a long time they struggled with complications from the side of the abdomen, then he went through a long path for prosthetics, and this is the upper third. the penetration is quite high, but now he has a biomechanical protest, he continues his service, he came to us now, we steamed him for a hernia that developed after abdominal surgery, and he is very motivated to serve, and he does not plan to stop his work in the army. it used to be that surgeons worked
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24/7, well, in principle, it continues now, especially. those surgeons who are now right next to the contact line in the east, there is really work there, you don't have time to rest, you don't have the opportunity to go out, firstly , it's dangerous, and secondly, at any moment you can a situation will arise when your help will be needed, so these guys and girls work literally every second. there were several mobile hospitals under my command , especially surgical ones, and it was practical work, and again , organization and rotations, evacuations, admissions
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of seriously ill patients, provision of this or that, personnel policy, again, that is, life ... on wheels, the care provided in mobile hospitals is of a high level, the modern equipment we have here is often also available in mobile hospitals, we we are talking about x-ray complexes , we are talking about endoscopic racks, about laparoscopic equipment, about an artificial kidney, that is, about cell savers that allow you to take blood, filter it and give it back to the patient under certain conditions, stapling devices, modern suture material, instruments, microvascular surgery vascular surgery, again, traumatology, the difficulty is that
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, firstly, we have a lot of this work, and secondly, you never know what you will encounter, that's why predicting the character wound. difficult, and when a difficult patient comes to you, you have a short time to orientate yourself and do not waste time to help him, stabilize him, if we are talking about mobile hospitals , slow surgical teams, then he helped, stabilized, evacuated , and this happens all the time, that is, this is the work here, and... we accepted the patients, looked at them, and again we are not able to bring them to a logical conclusion, to the removal of the suture, we have to stabilize them again, make sure that they more or less everything is fine, and send him to other hospitals, someone will come. because he
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believes that he cannot serve, and according to our canons, he is suitable for military service, someone comes with thanks, the most important thing is that they join the army, that is the greatest comfort for us. thanks to extensive experience in military surgery, hryhoriy prykhorenko's team was able to set up successful work in the hospital during the war, and thus save hundreds of lives of our soldiers. khrystyna porubiy, nazar malnyk, espresso tv channel. what we have doctors, what kind of people we have, cool. meanwhile, we will continue to collect information for you. i looked at the statistics from
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the russian-fascist occupiers. you know, they already have 24 years since the beginning, that is, 21 days have passed, nine have happened. the icicles froze. hanging, this is how we can see now, this is how it looks now, the new year installation near st. petersburg, this port looks like this, since nightfall, it does not work, and it is not known when it will work, those who were in the topic could observe on the radars how those ships that are somewhere nearby were running away in panic were there when they realized what was happening and at what speed... according to the censor, they have some sources of information that these were special drones from the sbu, which once again covered such a long distance and did a very important thing, because it is - gas, gas - this is money, and money is a weapon, and it seems to me that they
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forgot something there, because they are flying and flying in that direction, more drones of good and different types, we will tell our security service of ukraine and we will say good day to ours. to the next guest, he is a military historian, the head of the public center of military history, vasyl pavlov. mr. vasyl, congratulations, glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes and have a good day. yes, we have already gone to hell, obviously, i am not sure that today's drones that flew to st. petersburg region are involved in this, but it came to the point that our beautiful ukrainian greetings, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, responded to register of the nazis, and this is the official greeting of the ukrainian armed forces, yes, what are they afraid of, they are already afraid of words, with whom they are fighting, in principle, any war, it is... not only a war on polygamy, it is also a war of meanings, and if we are talking about the situation that
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is developing in our confrontation with russia, then exactly the words that we just mentioned are the military slogan of ukraine, the official greeting, glory to ukraine and the answer glory to the heroes, this is exactly the element, remember how they justify the aggression against ukraine, that they are conducting an anti-nazi operation, that they are fighting the nazis, that there are uh... manuals of the third reich or something similar, but when they are absolutely not there for this they do not remember their own history and do not know the history of the slogan itself or the event to which these words directly relate, so we should be completely calm about it, everything they do is done for internal use, you see that if there, perhaps a few years ago , the greeting "slavo ukraine" in the west was treated somehow like this... now world leaders and the world public are completely calm and at
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cultural events and sports competitions they use this slogan and use it there are no problems ugh, even we in our aters always greet a large number of our guests with regard to history, that is, what does it say that you and i are two nazis, i don’t mind, and in the understanding of russians, i don’t mind, mr. vasyl about history actually... you say, they don't know, but they very often refer to history, telling about their big affairs in quotation marks, of course, and now they are drawing analogies between the great patriotic war and the war that they started against of ukraine 10 years ago, in fact, and on a full scale two years ago, they try to use those narratives to justify themselves, er... if we analyze what happened 80 years ago and what is happening now, what can we expect
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from them, what can they still do, what can they turn to? in fact, we see a kind of symbiosis in their ideological, let's say, politics, in their narratives, we see, on the one hand, a symbiosis of soviet narratives, and on the other hand, they use a lot of narratives of the third reich, simply reshaping them, reshaping them for themselves, even. that propaganda machine and its features, which are being used now, both against us and against the world information space, we can expect them to simply begin to push some things to the point of absurdity, and here it should be mentioned that they have several quite effective state structures, first of all, there is the russian military historical society headed by volodymyr midinsky, so ... yesterday he will speak on solovyov's talk show every saturday with such
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powerful, in their opinion, historical shows, and accordingly this propaganda will appear on a new level already, because there is not much youtube there, there are few sources of information dissemination, well, plus , don’t forget that the most frightening thing for us will be what they will do to the population in the occupied territories, to the youth, who will simply promote themselves urban primarily for the purpose of including them in the russian armed forces and using them against us, this will be a real threat, and something must be done about it. mr. vasyl, look, they themselves chose that discourse, and this is how the structure of the russian empire in all its forms is built, they easily succumb to these schizophrenic narratives, when , for example, at the vlasovsky tricolor, they still look with putin's eyes, when at more than a million... russian collaborators who served on the side of an ally, because for two years, this was an ally, the best friend of the soviet people,
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adolf hitler and his goebbels, whose articles they printed in soviet newspapers, but they do not see them as collaborators, therefore they call everyone who wants to be themselves nazis only by the fact that they are a different people, that is, they easily succumb to these telemythical history and easily support the laws on the signed. but ukrainians in the occupied territories at the time. when, in principle , there is mobile communication, by the way, in the occupied territories, at a time when you can verify all this on a gadget, read it, if you are lazy to read or cannot read, then at least watch the joint parade, the german-soviet one there in brest or some others, and in general, in principle, in ukrainians, having access to the historical facts of real history,
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and not putin’s russian, they will also succumb to such treatment of the cities and will also become blonde russian reich, do we have any fuse? i think that a fairly significant number of the population will be able to refrain from this, because you are absolutely right, these are ukrainians, after all, in the years that have passed after the maidan, a large part of them have understood what critical thinking is. , already in the same ukrainian schools. these points were taught just as you say, as you say, the period of 39-41 years defined in our school curricula as the period of cooperation between the soviet union and nazi germany, i.e. for, say yes, for the average ukrainian schoolboy there, this is no longer a special problem, here the question will be
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again that not all the population was educated in extracurricular programs, part of the population will... rely on some nostalgic notes, which the russians use very skillfully, also this cult of victory or the cult of victory that they use, just in the fall of this year, it was the 80th anniversary of the battle for the dnipro, the 80th anniversary of the battle for the donbas, they quite powerfully used this reformatting of the saur mogil monument, which is extremely popular in the donbass, this is... the restoration of military equipment that stood on pedestals, the holding of various events there, they are trying to bring this discourse in, but judging by the way it does not go down very well in russia itself, we see that , that other discourses are beginning to rise as well, the discourse of russian invincibility, russian weapons
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are rising there in different periods, rising there, for example, paskevich's personnel there, personnel. peter koltarevskyi, that is , even natives of ukrainian lands who were quite powerful imperial generals, so here it will be blurred between, let's say, imperial identity and some kind of soviet nostalgia, well, let 's not forget that these regions of southern ukraine, they are quite complicated precisely in terms of history, because the myth of the russian south, he is extremely powerful and he... we are still being beaten and beaten, ugh, and actually before that, mr. vasyl, what moments, what historical facts, periods, events should we now highlight, use, what do we need to talk about to remind the ukrainians, and possibly also the russians, the few who are still
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somewhere watching and reading something other than what their propaganda serves them, as well... in this situation, i recalled the events of last week related with bashkiria, and this is precisely the most important moment, which must now be shown to the russians, to be told to our citizens that such a single community as the russian people actually never existed, that in fact what we now call russians is a huge number of conquered peoples who led their national the liberation wars, which had their own... significance , with which the empire rubbed them in there in every possible way, we must remember that the same chukhchis waged war against russia for almost 200 years, bashkirs, tatars, chuvash, udmurts, these are all nations, they went through the fact that ukrainians were able to resist this, not to lose their own identity, it is now
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blurred for them, and what we see now is precisely based on an unknown history. that it is necessary to tell the history of the enslaved peoples of russia, to tell about how it was formed state, here are very apt words of valeria novodvorskaya, what is russia, this moscow principality has been transformed into an empire by means of continuous wars of national liberation, so it is necessary to show that they have always defended themselves in the pews, let's say, they have always promoted that they protect themselves from the external storm, and the threats, in fact, were created from the outside... that the threat to their surroundings, to those states, those peoples that were around them, and constantly tried to absorb, if you even take the maps there and... the russian empire, historical and maps, by which, for example, i studied at a soviet school, everything is very clearly shown there, how the empire was formed, what territories
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were seized, how it all changed, but in this situation, in order to destroy this monster, we have to show that he such a peculiar, peculiar frankenstein, which is molded from completely and inorganically combined fragments, but then maybe we will be able to tear it apart, well, incidentally. we have to tell our citizens that the history of russia is a rather complex process, and if we we want people to know and respect our history, we should also know and respect the history of other states, i am not talking about imperial tracing paper, our schoolchildren , unlike theirs, know better the history of small nations and imperialist invaders, especially that the part concerning siberia is somehow connected with ukraine as well, because it is ukrainian. the cossacks also did something, but we don't have much time, mr. vasyl, but i would like to talk about the historical dimension of two problems that lie west of ukraine i want to ask you how much, in your opinion, as
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a professional historian, there is historical basis in the problems we have with the political leadership in budapest, with orbán and his party with those attacks, sometimes in the direction of the big. of hungary, and sometimes with other claims, although precisely in the dimension of the second world war, hungary, as hitler's allies , did not bear any actual responsibility, and these similar notes about th year, similarly, what historical dimension is there in that suddenly slovaks who remember czechoslovakia and russian. suddenly they elect a pro-russian party, which yesterday, yesterday, by the way, restored cultural ties with the russian federation, by the hands of the minister of
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culture of slovakia. here in slovakia and in hungary, how much history is there in today's real politics? this is quite a difficult question, because it is impossible to discuss the historical politics of other states without being inside them. of these states, well , it is quite difficult, as for hungary, first of all, it should be noted that hungary itself was once an empire, considered itself, or was a part of, the austro-hungarian empire, that hungary has the so-called trianon trauma, as one of the states that lost the first world war, that tried to renew all this during the second world war, why actually became hitler's ally, by the way, like slovakia, should not be forgotten here either. that hungarians could be reminded not only of tanks in budapest in 1956, but also of russian cavalry and russian infantry in budapest in
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1848-49, when the same matskevich suppressed suppressed the national liberation hungarian uprising, which became the basis of hungarian statehood, as well as recall the second world war, that not everything is so simple and rosy with hungarians either. for example, the greatest tragedy of the ukrainian civilian population during the second world war was the burnt village of koryukivka , it was precisely the work of the hungarian punitive units, so ukraine also has something to show hungary, but here it should be taken into account that the russians are currently using history , use historical politics, replacement, softening of historical concepts, just in order to get, well, first economic preferences, and then... political preferences, and here it is precisely history, in fact, we have pure oruel there in the case that the one who controls modernity
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controls the past, whoever controls the past controls the future, just as we will see that history will play its role more than once in the present confrontation, primarily a meaningful, cognitive confrontation, and ukraine should look for opportunities to work with... various groups and hungarian population, both slovak, polish, and romanian, in many countries, we should show our history, our vision of many events. mr. vasyl , one more short question, please . recently, churchill's rhetoric, which sounded 80 years ago, sometimes resonates with me today, in particular in what he is talking about from great britain, is it at all possible, in your opinion, a scenario that russia and britain... russia and france, in general these countries will clash again, but already on different sides of the barricades, i'm talking about is a war between russia and
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european countries possible now? let me , let's put it this way, answer as a historian, i will not go into the future, but i will say that in the past there were wars between britain and russia, there were wars between russia and france, wars between russia and poland, wars between russia and hungary there were wars between russia and turkey, there were wars between russia and sweden and so on and so on and so on, so the past shows us that russia had conflicts... in fact with all the states on the european continent, before which it could achieve, and let's not forget that the most famous one is the so-called eastern, or the so-called crimean war on the territory of modern ukraine, when just the coalition of great britain, france, the kingdom of sardinia, they showed russia the place at that time in the world military-political hierarchy, so i would not rule out the possibility that sooner or later.
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states can go to war, but then it will be called completely differently, you know very well, well, this historical list, at least the warrior shows that in all these couples there is an extra the word russia, because these are bloody lessons of history, nato is preparing and showing what they can do. thank you, mr. vasyl, for participating in our broadcast. vasyl pavlov, a military historian and head of the go center of military history, was on our airwaves, now we are going on a short break, and we will continue. but no longer about war, but about whether and how peace is possible? there are discounts on amicitron of 20% in psyllanyk, pam and oskad pharmacies. there are discounts on citrik, 20% in psarynyk, pam and oskad pharmacies. attention, total sale on razpak tv. dutyki miss only from uah 699. if you are in search of convenient.
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