for wars, such a training ground for russia, i think that not only ukraine, other former soviet republics as well, it’s just that their turn has not yet come, and it is simply necessary to realize and think about how to create such a security system, and by and large these meetings in dear friends , they are part of the efforts to create such a security system, because even if we suddenly want to freeze conflicts, the west wants to freeze conflicts, the russian federation will not give it to us, and therefore i think it is absolutely right that we have this formula peace, with ten points. lot says: you know, but these points can never be fully implemented, of course, this can be assumed, i don't see any mechanisms now to force russia to withdraw its troops from the occupied territories, to agree to territorial integrity , without the use of force of ukraine to punish russian war criminals, who are the leaders of a nuclear state and themselves are ready to punish everyone they can get, as we know, not only with words. but also by actions, because they

send their agents to different countries poison, are engaged in sabotage, murder, and are completely protected by their own, their state, their special services from any punishment for their crimes, and there are a lot of such points, but this is a program at most, even if you imagine that someday after military actions, in the moment of finalization of the war. whenever he is, now saying that the war may last two years, five years, i don't know how long it will last, but in any case, if you imagine that there will be some kind of meeting between russia and ukraine, because only russia can end the war with ukraine, no one else, then there should be our formula, and there may be a russian formula that will be the complete opposite, we also know it, it is also maximalist, the recognition of territorial realities, that is, our recognition that what is occupied by us is theirs and that

theirs is not occupied either, zaporizhzhia, kherson, they still want, of course, i think they want more, they and kharkiv, they want, they also want kyiv, they generally want everything they can bite into, er, denazification, that is the destruction of the very ukrainian character of the state, if, if it will generally continue to exist from the russian point of view, demilitarization means that there is no army, well, this is also a program that no one will ever agree with, but russia knows for sure that even if it has to talk about something. it must demand a maxim, when two maxims meet, then of course there may be some opportunity for negotiations, although i will tell you honestly, i am not one of those people who believe in the possibility of negotiating with the russian federation. in general, i believe that if this war ends in the next few years, well, that's it there, experts are now talking about the 20s as the time of this war, well, up to and including 2029, it can also be, it must be clearly understood and not cry any additional illusions, then it can end without an agreement with... russia , by the fact that a strong

security perimeter, air defense, a strong army will be created, which will force russia to stop hostilities, but not the war. and no, i can’t even imagine such a thing, but it has happened so many times, well, we have talked, we have repeatedly talked about the korean peninsula, dmytro, that a korean scenario is possible, but it is necessary to understand a simple thing: south korea absolutely did not want to. to write peace with north korea, because she believed that she should liberate the entire territory of the korean peninsula from the communists. as much as the united states wanted an end to the war, it did not want further confrontation with the soviet union. north korea also wanted an end to the war because they didn't want to lose that territory, and the people's republic of china wanted to continue the war because they hoped to retaliate and try to occupy something further in the south, so it was a very strange situation, goals... bhenyan did not match the goals

of saul and beijing and moscow until the death of joseph stalin, although they were on different sides of the barricades. well, as a result, south korea never signed this peace agreement. there is this line of confrontation, on which the troops seem to stand in compliance with a certain agreement, under which there is no signature of the president of the republic of korea and no korean dignitary. so there may be different options, but many say that wars end at the negotiating table, not all and forever. may be the war, which will be suspended without any agreements, simply de facto, as now there is a de facto transportation of grain across the black sea, you do not have an agreement with russia, it formally does not agree with the fact that this grain is moved, it can now mine the black sea to blow up the courts, and turkey, bulgaria, and romania can mine the black sea so that the courts can pass, but there is no agreement, and the russian-ukrainian war, believe me, can end, stop . so without any meetings of the presidents,

without any negotiations of the delegations, just like that, there will be a period while the parties will either accumulate strength for a new one. round of confrontation, or look for opportunities for political agreements that will be five or 10 years after the actual cessation of hostilities, but we must be clear about how we envision this perimeter of agreement, even if those agreements are reached 200 there 37 or 2045 year, how old will you be? oh, i didn't count 45, but we'll count plus 20, somewhere around 20, 45-46 years old, well, here you are will be there in this you will see what this political settlement will look like , there may not be a war at this time for a long time, and by the way, thanks to the fact that we will take this position to protect international law, we can win it as a result, because nothing nothing is static and the least static is russia itself, we have already seen it, it

is static, static, static, and then bang, and everything suddenly changes, as in some, you know, accelerated scenario, we are already dealing with absolutely. another state body, and in relation aid, well, aid should not be talked about in davos, because the people who are dealing with aid now, they are in washington and they are in brussels, in european capitals, and there are two formulas that have already become completely clear to me, there is the american the aid formula that president joseph biden is trying to... congress to vote for aid to ukraine, so he makes concessions on the border, and former president donald trump wants congress not to vote for aid, and therefore requires his supporters to do everything possible to say

that biden is not making enough concessions and not to vote for aid. officially , the republicans say that it is not about helping ukraine, but actually. that's why they won't vote on a compromise on the border, so that there's no money for us, and that's the reality, because now when the senators in the republic say: listen, we reached a historic agreement with the democrats, we don't have such a chance to solve our problems will be as it is now with the border, trump says, neither vote, nor vote, and now very a lot will depend on the speaker of the house of representatives, mike johnson, but this agreement, this... i want to note that this is the migration agreement that they want, joe biden made concessions, this is because biden wants to help ukraine, or to raise his rating, because 60% of the citizens of the united states of america are not satisfied with his migration policy, of course, but the fact is that the

concessions that biden made are contrary to his political vision, which he maintained for 40 years on migration policy, so that he can go to such concessions only to help ukraine, i say that there are completely opposite intentions, biden is ready to change his political course in favor of the republicans in order to help ukraine, and the republicans are ready, first of all, president trump is ready to give up such an opportunity in order not to help ukraine. i'm just insisting, it's not about the border, it's about this vote in ukraine, and here 's the mailer. one of the most such major taylor green, one of the most ardent supporters of donald trump, she already warned speaker johnson that if he will put this package to a vote in the house of representatives, the question of his resignation will be brought up, and now there will be such a moment

of truth, because when this temporary extension of the budget was voted on, there were 106 republicans, as far as i remember , voted for, 105 against, well that is johnson seems to have a one-vote majority to retain his position. this is a very, very risky thing. fragile summer i don't know how much he will be willing to sacrifice his career for the sake of helping ukraine, because his predecessor, who risked the agreements with the democrats, kevin mccarthy, he not only lost the position of speaker of the house of representatives, he lost his political career, he had to leave the house. representatives, former president mike pence, who did not support donald trump, then, during the storming of the capitol , inaugurated in fact the election results allowed joseph biden to become the president of the united states according to the procedure, he actually lost popularity in the republican party. there are many such examples now, people

who don't support donald trump don't have any no chance to make a political career in the ranks of the republican party. donald trump actually took over this party, and now all congressmen, republicans are forced to follow his views, contrary to their political position, this is the reality, and therefore, in principle, the questions are allocated to... help, to be honest, it is very doubtful, we may have a chance, but with each new week of these negotiations , we are losing it, remember, we said that there would be a vote on new year's eve, uh, then, that there would be a vote after vacation, already on january 20 , there is no comforting result, in the senate comes to some compromises, in the house of representatives there is not even a smell of compromise, and the most important thing is that i think that ... after this speech of trump , the senators can change their line. newt gringrich, one of trump's supporters in

the senate, made it clear that mike johnson should hold his line and not put the package up for a vote. here is the answer to your question. yes, that is a problem. republicans have even been asked by biden's aides. they say that's it, the situation is critical, let's go vote. it is strange, incomprehensible to all ukrainians, i understand, theirs is now this. state to the united states of america, although they have provided a very large, large aid package, and trump is constantly being heard in our conversation with you, and this week he won kokusiwawa, which may mean already how these first should be considered, in some states they are called caucuses, in some primaries, what does this mean that after all trump will return to the presidential chair? to the presidential chair, we do not know what it takes to win the presidential election, but he has everything the chances, if he is not stopped by some judicial

authorities, to become a candidate for the position of president from the republicans, it is no longer known, we cannot somehow predict the results of the presidential elections in the usa with you, because they are not predicted, because they do not depend on the general rating of the candidates , and from voting in so-called problem states, and that, too , is changing quite a bit now, because suddenly it turns out that states that are considered traditionally democratic. change their favorites against the background of this tough confrontation between two parties, so in principle the results of the presidential elections are not predicted and will depend, i would say, on chance. i will remind you that when trump became the president of the united states, he lost the presidential election by the total number of voters, it seems that a million citizens, a million more people voted for hillary clinton, which did not prevent that donald trump from getting a beautiful one. mogu in the presidential race, because in it he received a greater

number of votes, this is such a feature of the electoral federal system state, this is one point, i think that all these scandals are helping him, even in the eyes of his electorate, this is another point, if there is some court verdict in some criminal case, it may hinder him, but we still don't... know how , then you need to understand what trump wants. look, if we don't get money from the united states this year, i don't think it will significantly affect the front line, this whole situation, because 2024 is a year for russia and ukraine to gather some efforts and opportunities. i am in principle i think that a situation may arise when at the end of 2024 we will be in the same situation as in 2023. but there will still be 2025, and in principle trump can believe that if he

is elected president, he will immediately start consultations with vladimir putin , regarding the settlement of the situation, ukraine must understand then that it does not have the strength to fight, because it will not have additional resources, it will not have money precisely for the year 2025. and they will expect some real mediation from donald trump, and ukraine will not be able to object his, his own formula of plague. these 24 hours are expected from trump, which he always talks about, but he won in iowa and immediately reminded about it, promised to stop the war in ukraine again in 24 hours. and i will tell you what will happen in 24 hours, come on. in four hours it will turn out that putin has him under his nose, so to speak, that

he cannot reach any real agreement with the russian president on any compromise terms, that putin will clearly tell his advisers that he wants all of ukraine and an apology and withdrawal immediately sanctions of the whole world, and trump will go crazy, as it always happens with him, and will begin not only to help ukraine, but to try to destabilize the situation. some other regions important for russia and most likely not only there will be an increase in the scale of the russian-ukrainian war, because a person like trump can be completely calm after being disappointed by putin. give permission to fire missiles at the territory of russia, and in principle, a big war. in principle, i think that the election of donald trump as president may be a prelude to a direct confrontation between the west and of the russian federation with completely unforeseen consequences. in principle, we should understand that the election of trump as the president of the united states in november is a prelude to the great war. because trump, unlike

biden, will not calculate the consequences of his actions. he is a politician who strikes first. then i think, he first, i will tell you this, he first negotiates, and when he does not see this respect for himself, on which he is counting, he rages and begins to think how he can destroy someone who does not have much respect for him posed, it must be said that trump 's ego is not commensurate with putin's ego or xi jinping's ego, because trump, absolutely logically, he is also the president of the united states, putin 's ego is interrupted... the importance of his state, in principle, corresponds to his trump the importance of his state, yes, he is a self-centered person, but he definitely understands what he is running, and putin does not understand what he is running, he is not running anything that can be compared to america, so trump can think that putin is aware of this, but putin considers himself equal to trump, without having

opportunities for trump, here are the perfect conditions for the third world war, for hitting moscow with a nuclear missile and a nuclear missile at yours. there is no putin, there is no trump, there are no 10-20 million people there, and you and i, if we survive, write excellent reports about this whole story, or if there is television, then we tell, and if there is not, then some idiots will study it instead of us talk and tell, i will tell other rats about trump and putin, what else to tell, on this one, on this week, very high-profile events with ukrainian journalists happened, president volodymyr. instructed the security service of ukraine to find out about the circumstances of the illegal surveillance of bigusinfo journalists, in particular, and it was already reported on the bigusinfo portal that 30 people were doing all this, establishing all this. mr. vitaly, who do you think is doing this, why, or is this some kind of return to the fact that

journalists are being persecuted? well, it's not even harassment, it's just illegal interference in personal life and pressure, but then again, you're asking, who is it? the ukrainian special services will be able to answer this question to president zelenskyi, he gave a corresponding order, so it would be very nice to know when, at the beginning of this great war, i found him in my apartment in lviv? eavesdropping on the device, i also said that, in my opinion, the security service of ukraine, which , by the way, is continuing this investigation, and somehow it disappeared somewhere, and i don’t know anything about its consequences, so i don’t know whether i was requalified from witnesses of the victim, although i submitted such a request to the investigator in in the appropriate form, and why i believed that it was necessary to find out who did it and what it was, because i believed that the lack of reaction to this

case, whoever did it, the russian special services and... some private offices or the ukrainian state in itself, this creates a sense of impunity, and the sense of impunity gives the opportunity to take new steps in this direction, and as a result, we all fall into the abyss, because people who feel this sense of impunity in a state that is completely dependent on the democratic world, early or lately, some actions are carried out, which come to light, and our allies say to us: "god, how is it so, we are your help." you order hotel rooms in order to set up the equipment there and take it away , what kind of delusion is this, now publications in western newspapers about this story with a portrait of zelensky as before, these publications

were about russia with a portrait of president putin, we absolutely do not it is necessary that our president and our state speak. such a dubious role, you just know, then there will be a war between two russias, and a war between two russias is that which is exactly what putin needs, and not what we need , because i absolutely understand, it is clear that if these are two russias, then it is better that one big russia controls this small incomprehensible one, and then there will be one zone of stability, and one sanctions against everyone, no it will be necessary to invent some new ones, so it is definitely not in our interests, it is definitely not in the interests of ukrainian society, because in the conditions when in fact the power is... in the same hands, when we perfectly understand that the president of ukraine, at least until the official end of their powers in march this year, there is no real. alternative reaction neither from the parliament, which is completely monopolized by this amazing party of his, nor from the government , which we generally mention only when

the president himself mentions it, nor from the judicial system, which is also in a peculiar state in wartime conditions, the only possibility to indicate the government for its mistakes, and there cannot be a government without mistakes, there is media, and this is... another media that exists in the era of this absolutely senseless telethon, which in in turn, it is such a reflection of the clan between self-righteous and oligarchic, and they also do not enjoy the trust of society, so the government itself should be interested in journalists expressing their opinions, criticizing those other political actions, and pointing out to them about something is wrong with her'. steps in the conditions when we still do not have a government of national unity, i believe that sooner or later it will be created, that the ukrainian authorities will not be able to prevent either the pressure

of ukrainian society or the pressure of our allies, on whom the survival and the state and the government itself, to be honest, but in conditions where there is still no government of national unity, there is no strong prime minister who would be able to really lead the country in conditions when this legitimacy will already be lost, and was such a support. for the parliament, which will have to take over a significant part of the functions of state administration, one way or another, here we are the government of national unity, ukrainian journalism is them, yes, except for bigus-info, this week, and yuriy nikolova too, there were threats to him, and they went to the door notes, however, i have followed this story, there are several telegram channels. who are very active in all this, i don't know how to even say, well, well, i was also in this situation, they also came to my house during

the maidan of 2013-14, 10 years ago, they tried to break down the door, well no no it's not even worse than notes to leave, they held a picket at my house, pasted some offensive leaflets, i wasn't in kyiv at the time, but they held such a picket. i remember it very well, because it was also such an absolute pressure on me, and it was certainly terrible, and by the way, you know what's interesting, i also noticed at the time, for me too, it was such an indicator that such a government that does this, it does not enjoy any public trust, because when i asked there my colleagues to come and at least remove all these inscriptions that were pasted on all the surrounding doors of the house. and everything else, there was not a single postcard there anymore, because the people who lived there next to me, they themselves tore up everything to the last piece of paper, this is an answer

to the authorities, that this is how it was with nikolaev, not to repeat mistakes of the yanukovych regime, if it's you, well, it's absolutely obvious, and one more point, because it always has a rather negative effect on the reputation of the state itself, because it legitimizes... there is any information that the journalists themselves say, a journalist can also make a mistake, he can give unverified information, that's why, no, no, not saints, but when you are pressured with threats, it becomes absolutely clear that everything you said and will say is true, i thought that yanukovych's regime created a certain indulgence for me in what i will say in the future, because he has put a quality mark on me purely, that's what the tailor says, it's true, because we... compromise him, kill him, destroy him and so on and so forth, on this point i think that i should be grateful to the regime that was then, well, although, although for the fact that he did not

have time to kill me, but our colleagues should be grateful to those who organize these sanctions for them, i think there is no greater, i would say, premiums for the journalist and greater activation of his opportunities than chasing in the eyes in general and his own... and the world, the politician lowers himself, even the most high-ranking politician, including the head of any state, and the journalist rises, he has the opportunity to actually engage in a duel with such a politician who uses such actions, and destroy him , even at the cost of his own life, the prime minister of malta, during whose premiership this well-known investigative journalist was killed. because of his, well, corrupt actions of the authorities, he lost his position

. to return to a political career, leonid kuchma, in fact, after what happened to georgiemadze, he was a completely different person, his reputation always remained with this stain, robert fitza, he now returned to power, but he and many of his associates actually lost power in the situation, when they believed that they were absolutely no alternative leaders after the murder of the journalist. who spoke about corruption abuses, i'm sure that all this will definitely come to him in the future, this situation will not go anywhere, and i can give such examples a huge number, so if you want to create a trap for yourself, into which you will climb, and you will not get out of here, please chase the journalists, it will be much easier for all of us to close the castle in this trap, so that you all sit there and can no longer crawl , and therefore

the president is doing absolutely right. zelensky, when he gives an order to investigate this, it is precisely the reaction of the leader of a civilized state, here is another moment , the audience can see you and me now, all our colleagues too, it is not known who is behind the telegram channels, how big a problem this is for of ukrainian journalism, this anonymity and one might say impunity, well, this is generally a huge problem that exists in today's world of news, the lack of verification of news. what i always say is if i see an anonymous news that no one can refer to it is not news at all, the news for it should always be more than just there, i'm not saying that there should be a photo, witnesses, well as, as it happens in an investigative case, and explanation, but there must be someone who takes responsibility for this information, we

tend to read the news now. and that's absolutely it's amazing stuff from people who just really don't introduce themselves and i do n't think there's anything wrong with people reading it because it's like reading fairy tales, the important problem is that they believe in these fairy tales, that adults people, parents and grandparents believe in santa claus, that is, in principle, this can be called a sign of schizophrenia, well, that is, when you are 5 or four years old, you believe that santa claus will come now, bring you a gift, or saint nikolay, now, but this telegram channel is more like didiv frosts, than saints nicholas, i apologize, there it is santa nicholas, and it does not smell like saints, and it does not smell like nicholas, but it smells like santa clauses, because this is the russian technology of anonymous news, so that we do not say there, we

simply inherited it. but when you are an adult, you should understand that this does not happen, that there is no news that is not confirmed by anything, and when he tries to discuss it with me, you know, the anonymous telegram channel wrote, well, putin wrote in the refrigerator, patrushev is sitting on the refrigerator and eats sausage, professor valery solovei , a recent acquaintance from moscow life , at least takes the courage himself... to present the fact of putin's death is an act, we do not trust professor solovei with this information, and we do not know in which in the refrigerator, what yogurts, sausages and cheeses is volodymyr volodymyrovych with, i think that with non-sanctioned ones, with russian, and you remember, there was such a cheese with russian, but at least there is professor

solovei, with whom you can talk about it.. . talk and my colleagues talk to him about it, so his can be seen on the air, it allows you to think about something, especially when professor sloviy talks about this body of putin directly from moscow, without leaving the refrigerator, well, it’s serious, of course i’m joking, but to a certain extent it’s all the same, you know, another absolutely the situation, and here we just receive news from people who are unknown to anyone, these people are not... not a source, there is no such thing as anonymous information, because there is some anonymous channel that is controlled, maybe from the office, but there is an anonymous channel, pseudo-ukrainian, i will not call them now and tell them which ones are controlled by the administration, the administration of the president of russia, and absolutely.