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they say: my god, how is it, we are helping you because you are a democratic state, you have freedom of the press, and it turns out, as zabinfo investigators write, that you order hotel rooms in order to place equipment there and take it away, which this is such a delusion, now we absolutely do not need publications in western newspapers about this story with a portrait of zelensky, as before these publications were about russia with a portrait of president putin. for our president and our state to act in such a dubious role, you just know, then there will be a war between the two russia, and a war between two russias is exactly what putin needs, and not what we need, because absolutely smart people have understood that if it is two russias, then it is better that one big russia controls this small one, it is not clear, and then there will be one zone stability, and one sanctions against everyone, there will be no need to invent any new ones, so it is definitely not in our interests, definitely in the interests of ukrainian society, because in the conditions... when
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in fact the power is concentrated in one hand, when we perfectly understand , that the president of ukraine, at least until the official end of his powers in march of this year, there is no real alternative response, neither from the parliament, which is completely monopolized by this amazing party, nor from the government, which we only mention when the president himself mentions it, nor from her... judiciary system, which is also in a peculiar state in wartime conditions, the only possibility to point out the government's mistakes, and there cannot be a government without mistakes, is the media, and this is also the media that exists in the era of this absolutely senseless telethon, which in in turn, it is such a reflection of the clan infighting and the oligarchic, and they also do not enjoy the trust of society, the fact that...
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yes, she herself should be interested in journalists expressing their opinions, in criticizing those other political actions, in pointing out to her about to her some wrong steps in the conditions when we still do not have a government of national unity, i believe that sooner or later it will be created, that the ukrainian authorities will not be able to prevent either the pressure of ukrainian society or the pressure of our allies, on whom the survival and the state and the government itself. to be honest, but in the conditions where there is still no government of national unity, there is no strong prime minister who would be able to really lead the country in conditions when this legitimacy will already be lost, and was such a support for the parliament, which will have to take over a significant part of the functions in terms of public administration, one way or another, here we are the government of national unity, ukrainian journalism is them, except for bigusinfo this week. the door went out notes, however
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, i watched this story, there are several telegram channels, which are very active in all this, i don't know how to even say, well, well, i was also in this situation, they also came to my house during the maidan in 2013-14, 10 years ago, they tried to do this. .. knocking down the door, no, no, it’s even worse than leaving notes, they held a picket at my house, posted some offensive leaflets, i wasn’t in kyiv at the time, but they held such a picket, i remember it was doing really well because it was also such absolute pressure on me, and it was just awful, and by the way, you know what's interesting, i also noticed then, for me too , it was such an indicator that this kind of government i... which is doing this, it does not enjoy
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any public trust, because when i asked my colleagues there to come and although would remove all these inscriptions that we pasted on all the surrounding doors, houses and everything else, there was no longer a single leaflet, because the people who lived there next to me, they themselves tore up everything to the last piece of paper, this is the answer to the authorities that here i am... with nikolov, we will not repeat the mistakes of the yanukovych regime, if this you. well, that's absolutely obvious. and one more point, because it always has a rather negative effect on the reputation of the state itself, because it legitimizes any information that the journalists themselves say. a journalist can also make a mistake, he can give unverified information, and so on, so not everyone is a saint, but when you are pressured with threats, it becomes absolutely clear that everything you say... and say is the truth , i believed that
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the regime of yanukovych created a certain indulgence for me, for what i will say in the future, because he purely bet on me mark of quality, that's what it says... it 's true because we wanted to compromise him, kill him, destroy him and so on and so forth, for that i think i have to thank the regime that then was, well, although, although for the fact that he did not have time to kill me, but our colleagues should be grateful to those who organize these sanctions for them, therefore there is no greater, i would say award for a journalist and greater activation of his opportunities than haunts his own audience and the world in general, the politician lowers himself, even the most a high-ranking politician, including the head of any state there, and a journalist rises, he has the opportunity to actually engage in a duel with such a politician who uses such actions and destroy him, even
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at the cost of his own life, the prime minister of malta during the premier in whose leadership this well-known journalist was killed, who was engaged in: investigating his, well , corrupt actions of the authorities, he lost his position and the opportunity to return to a political career, leonid kuchma, in fact, after what happened to giorgii genadzich, it was a completely different person, his reputation has always been this stain, robert fitz, he is now back. to power, but he and many of his associates actually lost power in a situation where they believed that they were absolutely without any alternative leaders after the murder of a journalist who spoke about the corrupt abuses of the fizo, i am sure that it is all to him will
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definitely separate in the future, this situation will not go anywhere, and i can give a huge number of such examples, so if you want to create a trap for yourself in which you... and you will not get out of here, please persecute the journalists, it will be much easier for all of us to close the castle in these traps so that you all sit there and can no longer get out, and that is why the president is doing absolutely right zelensky, when he gives an order to investigate this, it is exactly the reaction of the leader of a civilized state, but one more moment, the audience can see you and me now, all our colleagues too, behind the telegram channels, it is not known who is behind it, how big is it? problem for ukrainian journalism, this anonymity and you can say impunity, well that's a huge problem that exists in today's news world, the lack of verification of news, what i always say is if i see an anonymous story that
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nobody can link to, it's not news, news for that it should always be more than just there, i'm not saying anymore. that there should be a photograph, witnesses, well, as it happens in an investigative case, and an explanation, but there should be someone who takes responsibility for this information. we usually read the news now and it's absolutely amazing stuff from people who just really don't present themselves in any way, and i don't think there's anything wrong with people reading it, because it's like reading fairy tales, it's important to... the problem is that they believe in these fairy tales, that adults, parents and grandparents believe in santa claus, that is, in principle, this can be called a sign of schizophrenia, well, that is, when you are 5 or
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four years old, you believe that santa claus will come now, bring you a gift, or saint nicholas, now, but this telegram canals look more like santas than st. nicholas. i apologize, there is the grandfather of st. nicholas, and it doesn't smell like saints, and it doesn't smell like nicholas , but it smells like santa claus, because it's russian technology, anonymous news, no matter what we say there, we just inherited it, but when you're an adult, you have to understand that it never happens that there is no news that is not confirmed by anything, and when he tries to discuss it with me, you know, the anonymous telegram channel... wrote, well, wrote, putin is in the refrigerator, patrushev is sitting on the refrigerator and eating sausage, professor valery silavey, a recent acquaintance from moscow life, at least takes it upon himself the courage to present the fact of putin's death is an act, we do not trust professor
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solovya with this information and we do not know in which refrigerator with which yogurts, sausages and cheeses volodymyr volodymyrovych is. i think that with non-sanctioned ones, with russian, but do you remember, there was such a cheese with russian, yes, but at least there is a professor. in the nightingale, with whom you can talk about it, and my colleagues talk to him about it, so you can see him on the air, it allows you to think about something, especially when professor nightingale talks about putin's body straight from moscow, that is, without leaving the refrigerator, well , it's serious, of course i'm joking, but to some extent it's still, you know, a completely different situation, and here we just get news from people who are nobody. .. unknown, these people seem to come
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to the president's office for some kind of internecine conflict and everyone says: well, we have to talk to them, they are a source of information, not a source, there is no such thing as anonymous information, because there is some anonymous channel that is controlled, maybe there from the office, but there is an anonymous channel, a pseudo-ukrainian one, i will not name and slander them now, which are controlled by the administration, the administration of the president of russia, and absolutely. fake news is spread about what is happening in ukraine, but the number of people who can believe this news can, in principle, be compared to the number of people who believe news from ukrainian anonymous telegram channels, that is, in fact, you are creating conditions for russian propaganda, so that if a person in principle believes in anonymous, he can believe in the anonymous that creates yours enemy. also under the guise of e-e tele of the ukrainian telegram channel, just another different name, and this is
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very dangerous, because in principle, the very fact of the existence of anonymous news in a country, the very fact of the existence of which has not yet been established, because it is at war, is a threat to national security, national security in the broadest sense of the word, a threat to the very existence of the ukrainian state. and i think that sooner or later it will work, we will see not what kind of problems from her work here are all these telegram channels, the main task that i am on duty write once how great this or that official is, how bad poroshenko is, conditional or someone else, and we will see what effect these russian telegram channels, which are disguised as ukrainian ones, will have. which are also theirs, as you know, a fire is spreading across the steppe and what is being said
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about some traitor there, president zelenskyi or representatives of the ukrainian leadership there, and so on, how they want to destroy ukrainians and therefore do not agree on peace with russia, they are already doing all this, and this is a danger , and before that moment, until we find a tool of struggle, we will be vulnerable, the tool of struggle is very simple, to explain to people that unverified news is not news. that you can't believe any fairy tales, because in principle, we know what happens next, people who believe anonymous unconfirmed news, then start watching them on television, like in russia, and on tiktok and tiktok, well yes and this too, this, i would say, is a pandora's box of news, i sometimes flip through it before breaking down, you know, sometimes the kind of news that you know about, but it's so... bloodied that you no longer perceive them as they were, of course, but you can't remove anything in tiktok, because tiktok
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is a chinese technology, and if we clearly understand that the people's republic of china aims to ukraine lost, and russia won, and this is a fact, but it will not do it by openly delivering weapons there, but with the technologies it possesses, you will not do anything to china for tiktok, it is already banned in the united states, it is not permission save on phones there government officials and so on, this is absolutely the right approach, but again, t-tok is a brilliant technology, i would say, the degradation of the information space, because we used to say, remember when the first social networks appeared, i have facebook appeared there, oh, what a horror, people read a few paragraphs at a time, they don't read long articles. they are just dumb, well dumb, of course, we are all dumb in such a situation,
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but the amount of information itself began to shrink from some 5-7 minutes of youtube to 30 seconds tiktok, 15, no more, everything is already overturned, well, people, and that means that the people of the people are left with a completely distorted picture of reality, of course, we... try to fight it on all these sites and on the telegram site and on the tiktok site, but it is necessary to understand that we are unlikely to win in such a situation, because again, if we... cannot organize a real dialogue with society, ukrainian, these technologies will win, you can ask, but how to organize it, and trust is needed if we see each other, but not sees digital broadcasting, if you have to choose between tiktok, telegram and telethon, i think that telethon will lose with a crushing score, we created it ourselves and for budget
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funds we get a team of losers in relation to telegram and tiktok. and if we had a variety of information on television , at least on the air, if people saw that we have different media that have equal opportunities, present different facts and have different positions, people do not need to look for anonymous news and sit exclusively on the phone , and we are actually with you alone, against the wishes of state officials who are incompetent in this field, forced to... do what the state should want to do, that is, again, as with drones, as with the help of the military, as with these machines for which people collect money, as with with these armored cars, all the things that the state should do are done by the people , because the state showed itself, not only that it suffered a complete fiasco in connection with the understanding of the danger, two years ago they told that
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there would be barbecues, we are fine here, thank you , as they say, but now she will still suffer the same fiasco... with real supply to the armed forces, people always have to collect something for their money, and now the same with information security, this is our enthusiasm, it replaces public policy, wherever there should be effective public policy, people just replace the state with themselves, it's just a miracle that we exist, i can't get putin in the refrigerator out of my head, to be honest, and this week he is worried that, well , not the one in the refrigerator, but that one. possible deportation of russian citizens from latvia, which has already been honestly signed by one russian resource, and a story with a person who has already
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been sent to russia, the head of the russian society. for 75 years, it seems, the man was hyped up all day, each quote was presented separately, however, is this russian aggression possible under the pretext of protecting the russian-speaking citizens of latvia, is another aggression possible, and this is not a russian-speaking citizen, this is a citizen of the russian federation. this is not for nothing, and there is always the question of whether russia should insist that other states require its citizens to live on their territory, i don't think that is exactly the reason for aggression, it was precisely russia that caught itself by the tail in this regard, because it always protected russian-speaking citizens of other states, troops were usually sent in, and when
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the majority of russian citizens were there, it was there in abkhazia or south ossetia, passports were distributed, but here the situation of the authorities is completely different. they gave people the opportunity to get latvian citizenship, to pass fairly simple exams there for knowledge of the language, etc., you understand that the person who was deported has been living in latvia since 1959, uh, well, what do you think, in 50 years, let's say in 40, maybe i am confused in the dates, it was possible to study paldi. slabadena, i myself can pass the exam for the citizenship of the republic of latvia, you see, i need three days, given the certain level of latvian language there, which i just have from trips to latvia as a child, i do not believe that a person who lives in latvia does not can do it, i don't believe it, this is a position, this person just wanted to continue
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to live the way he lives, to believe that our migi'... will sit in riga, as they like to say, these are the people, and as a result, after the transition period, she was forced to leave the republic of latvia, well, this is such a thing, i think that russia will simply promote it as proof that it is a fortress surrounded by enemies, and these enemies are still tormenting and persecuting the russian-speaking population and russian citizens. you know that russia is currently developing a mandatory form of consular registration for its citizens abroad, there will be changes in the legislation. you will be required to be registered and report all your data to the embassy of the russian federation in different countries, i am not
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i know how they will ensure it, but maybe there will be some measures of responsibility, let's say, in case you want to return, well, you will just be arrested at the sheremetyevo airport, relatively speaking, because you were not registered, everything is very serious there with these things, they are talking about latvia there, and it seems to me that... today i read that they are introducing an electronic passport for foreigners, a special, special form in which everything will be entered immediately after your arrival in russia, and in you will even be there taking a dna sample is already a return to the soviet union, no, the fsb will go around in the soviet union there was no dna, this is a return, you know, to the novel by volodymyr vainovich, moscow 2040. where everyone was forced to turn in, how to say, a secondary product in special points for everyone citizen so this is just the creation of such a utopia, but they are seriously
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interested in it. i do not see that the baltic countries are now threatened by an open intervention of the russian federation. however, there will be hybrid attacks. well, they do it with the help of migrants, they already did it against poland, did against finland. russia has a large border with... latvia with estonia, we just don't really notice it, it's so close, but i remember very well that when i lived there in moscow, and even when there was no developed air communication there in the first post-soviet years, it was faster to reach the road than to kyiv, and tallinn is also not far away, it takes four hours to go from tallinn to st. petersburg, well, imagine that distance. and now we are not talking about trains. and not about planes, but about tanks, they quickly reach with such distances, but i do not think that russia will go to such a conflict, but it
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can send migrants to such borders, try to try to create some kind of situation, let's say to develop there in narva in estonia or in dauga in pils in latvia, it is possible, but ... but on the other hand, i am closely following the situation in narva, there were really quite good results of pro-russian politicians in the last parliamentary elections, however, one way or another, the current leader of narva is a well-known politician in estonia, a person of very moderate views , the inhabitants of nara are for her voted, the more this conflict continues, the more people who live even in such places with a predominance of not russian-speaking people, this should be understood, but the russian ethnic population, because all this... us, we always get confused with these terms when there the russians say that we, er , will protect the russian-speaking population, you see that we had a russian-speaking
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kharkiv there and it disappeared, and because the vast majority of the population of kharkiv are ethnic ukrainians, ethnic russians live in narva, these are not the same thing well, and these people are still little by little, they are turning away from the radicals. some pro-russian slogans, they are trying to integrate into the system of the republic of estonia, because they understand that there is a war on the other side of the border in ivangorod, here in narva there is a guarantee of peace and normal life, the same applies to davy vpils, if you look at the results of local elections in dauga in pils, i do not think that it is possible to organize any real forms of destabilization of this territory, i understand why putin wants to do it, he is not inventing anything new at all, putin is simply taking what was created before him, the kgb, and trying to translate it into
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real life. there were in the last years of the soviet union, when inter-popular fronts appeared in the baltic countries, there were interfronts, interfronts of ethnic russians, they became members of parliaments, that is, they tried to really be... on the political field with popular fronts, in in riga, in narva, these organizations were everywhere, their leaders were people's deputies of the soviet union, and deputies of the verkhovna rada of their republics, they were elected by the people, it is true, but simply during this time, people have already become convinced of the difference between the european riga and the soviet riga, it’s simple, they see it straight away, putin doesn’t understand it, but i’ll just tell you when i’m on the council... soviet riga was a city that was everything was black, but the color was black, and i was once a child, i somehow think that this must be a beautiful, black gothic place, and then i once came to...
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to riga already at such, i would say mature age, when rizzi returned to them, this house , the colors that were before the occupation, and it turned out that riga is a colorful city in general, it absolutely, that this is a completely different city, i think , god, how i was deceived after all, it was not supposed to be black, so people, a person who lives in riga, remembers that it was a black city, and now it is not black, he does not want to live in a black city, no one wants to live in a black city, and this is the answer to all russian attempts. of internal destabilization, in fact yes, and if we are already talking about destabilization and a possible attack, then nato is now practicing this probable attack on russia, on er, maybe western nato countries, and gathered almost a record number, will gather almost a record number of troops, 90,000 soldiers, what signal does nato want
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to send putin? and that is very right , it must be shown that the north atlantic alliance is not going to relax and that it has enough military capabilities to take russia in the head, even with conventional weapons, even if we say that we can have conflict without the use of nuclear weapons, that the nato army is much stronger and more effective than the army of the russian federation, i tell you honestly, dear, this is what we had to do before the war. i wanted to say at the beginning of the war that nato should have already shown no, we should have done this, our army should have done this before the war, our state should have done this before the war, not to seek any agreements with moscow, here we will come to an agreement, here we are here we will open it, here we will open the crossing, we will improve people's lives, here we will start a bus so that it reaches the point on the administrative border, no, we
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needed to buy more weapons for... we needed to convince the west that we we needed this and that, we needed to concentrate troops near the contact line and near all our borders with the russian federation, so that russia would see that we are ready to defend ourselves and that we, in principle, perceive relations with it as a constant military danger. in principle, after 2013 it was necessary to make this clear and after 2019 to continue this line. i assure you that this was the only possibility in the relationship with such a country as the russian federation to prevent a war, that's all that had to be done, and nato just wants to do it, for by and large, if you are dealing with an authoritarian country, then you have to act according to a simple formula, if you want peace, you have to prepare for war all the time, and this, by the way, is our future, as well as the future of the country, as long as russia is like this , as it is, as long as it is an aggressive state that will... believe that
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everything can be solved by force, do not even doubt that there are no other recipes for interaction with the russian federation except for strengthening its own military potential, by the way, that is why the cold war was cold because the sunset was always ready to accept the challenge of the arms race, to place your missiles in europe, remember how many there were then, and now it is also echoing hysteria, here's the pershings in germany. we don't need it, russia paid the soviet union money for this peace movement, they all went out to demonstrations, shouted: "god, he, put us at such a risk, in fact, this was what was the signal to the soviet leaders, as soon as you come forward, immediately cruise missiles will fly in the direction of moscow, and you will not collect your bones, we will simply destroy everything, if you want to destroy something from us, and with that understanding of the soviet leadership that the west.
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can adequately answer, and the idea of ​​peaceful coexistence of states with different social systems arose, and if the west had not been willing to resist, then such an idea would never have arisen, and there would have been a war. and now such an idea is possible, if nato shows , of course, that the west will be stronger, especially that president putin and the president of the people's republic of china, comrade xijiang ping, will want to create a model of peaceful coexistence and... competition between countries with different ideas about , as it will look like the world, the only proof for all these people, and for all these countries, is exclusively that they understand that they can perish themselves, because no matter how much they tell that they will all go to heaven, they will not check it, no , i tell you for sure, they love life and money too much to find out about heaven, they will lead to hell, in fact...

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