to be funded by the state, you see, a private military company is not a beggar who should go around begging for money, do you want us to do some specific actions? well, i can't, i have people, i currently have people in ukraine whom i can use, and they want to work for us, but i personally do not have the resources to attract these specialists. the problem is that i have... specialists, and these specialists are currently working on a contract with the armed forces of ukraine, but the specialists work as stormtroopers, that is, they go and are storming the trenches, i think this is an inappropriate use of resources, i have another proposal, i have already expressed this proposal, some people have heard me, but there are no sanctions, you know, there are no sanctions, so that i can take these people. uh, and use it somewhere

in some other way, i don’t have any money, funding, or authority to take these people and use them for their intended purpose, that ’s the problem, i want to tell you , that this is not the first time, because i watched, i saw how we use, this is not a criticism, maybe some experts or experienced people will say that andriy... is wrong and so on, but this is my personal opinion, i saw how we use, use sso operators in the assaults of the same trenches, and now i have a question, if in the frontal an ssso operator from our side and a banal mobilized member of the russian federation will die in the attack, how much time and money do we need, uh, time is very important, uh... to

prepare another ssso operator who accidentally died in frontal contact with the mobilized from the russian federation, and how much time and money is needed to restore this mobilized from the side of the russian federation at the front in ukraine, you understand, we need to train the sso operator for at least six months, and the russians will replace this mobilized tomorrow, i don't know what we're talking about. we use our resources, sometimes, sometimes, i am not criticizing, again, this is a statement of facts, we use our resources inappropriately, i have people now sitting in ukraine, i can use them in other directions, but they just go and are storming trenches, these are people who have 20 years of combat experience, well , in fact, you are talking about the fact that if these people who are trained in your company, who have considerable experience, were used according to ... the complexity

of the tasks, then it would be much more effective than simply using them as stormtroopers who repulsed one plantation near avdiyivka, and we understand that then this does not at all correspond to the potential that is embedded in these people, who have been accumulating for years, acquiring filigree capabilities for combat operations, then the question arises, how to find 100%, how to find a way out of such a labyrinth so that... whether the heads of private companies have more opportunities to interact with the military leadership, to receive some tasks that they solve comprehensively, relying on their capabilities, and were not dispersed among the storming units of the existing brigades? you understand, we, you and i, talked for a long time about this matter, i talked with mr. bodrak, and with other people and with... we always talk about

problems, problems, these kinds of problems, we have problems, we need to ask the question in a different way, what should be done in order to solve these problems, and in order to solve these problems, we need the authorities to listen to us, i myself, you understand, because i have there are no levers of influence, no contacts. and so on, i also wrote a letter to the president, the former poroshenko, and i appealed to president zelenskyi, i have a letter, a reply, and they are writing to me from the office of the president of ukraine: we inform you that your appeal is about a proposal for the possible use of private military companies, in particular, limited liability companies of megaconsulting groups for the performance of tasks related to the sphere of national security and defense of the state were sent to the apparatus. of national security and

defense of ukraine and the ministry of defense of ukraine with a request to consider and inform you about the results. that's the end of it, that is, we don't have a lobbyist who can come. i apologize, and to say that this must be done, and then a working group must be assembled, but specialists must be invited to this working group, you understand, it is necessary to invite someone from the national security and defense council, we must be invited, we must be invited from the general staff, from the ministry of defense, as it is called the profile, profile committee, if i am not mistaken, of the verkhovna rada of ukraine and... we have an urgent issue that must be discussed together, is it expedient, and if it is expedient, then how can we use private military companies, if it is not expedient, then some arguments are needed, but it should be decided

collegially, not as we do in ukraine, some analyst said, i am against it, because the state should have a monopoly by force, and we listened to him and said, well, he is against it, and so on. all these e-e conversations about the fact that private military companies are prohibited in ukraine, they are completely baseless, there is no law of ukraine on the prohibition of private military companies. we have a full-scale war now, if we have such an urgent issue, i think we should get a working group together, talk, and i'm sure we could find, find a solution, but how to do that, i don't know, because i ... wrote to zelensky, i wrote to umerov, i wrote i wrote to zaluzhn, i wrote to kuleba, i wrote to naev , there are no answers to my letters, that is, someone needs to come and say, it needs to be considered, i want you to have such a very good example, if there is still time to give it, it is very

important, i was lucky work and get to know each other personally. with the american general of the armed forces of the united states of america, david petraeus, and when the fighting started in afghanistan and iraq, and the united states of america realized that they were starting to lose, david petraeus came to the president of the united states and he said this phrase: he said: "mr. president, we can't just raise rates, that's part of it." a little bit, tomorrow a little bit, the day after tomorrow a little bit, we have to go all in, in english it's called all in, because if we don't go all in, we're going to lose this war, that was a very brave person because she just came to president and expressed her opinion, i

want to tell you about this that there is even such a book, it is called olin, here it is, i took it with me, the author is general david. people did not come to the country in tanks on battleships, they did not torture, destroy, rape the population, the world trade center and the pentagon were simply attacked in samobilanden, and they said that it was necessary to place all bets on the horse. that is, we must use all available forces and means that we have, and if we do not have these forces and means, then we must create them, and they created the pmc. and we hesitate. mr. andrew. thank you very much for the inclusion. i have information resources and

analytical resources at my disposal, this is what i am trying to do contribute to the promotion of an idea related to private companies. i hope that we will continue to do this and find it. like-minded people in power, in order to come to an understanding of whether it is necessary or not to put an end to di and form a new strategy after that, but the fact that everything must be put on the line in these harsh conditions is absolutely true. thank you very much for the inclusion, for your explanation, i will remind our viewers that it was andrii kepkalo, the founder and head of the private military company omega consulting group. and then we will talk on weapons, more precisely on the bill on the right to civilian firearms, before that. the draft law has many comments, and we will talk about it in the context of how it positively or rather negatively affects the training of our military, in particular, the training of our snipers, but we will talk about this after the advertising and information block. nothing

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continuing with our program on war and guns, we will continue to talk about how we train our professional snipers, but still in the context of the discussion of the gun bill, which is now due for second reading in our parliament, there are many nuances, unpleasant, as for me, nuances, and we will now talk about this with ours. our next guest is yurii chornomorets, doctor of philosophy, volunteer and sniper. mr. yuri, i congratulate you, i am glad to see and hear you. good day everyone. i was going to talk about sniping , but i think that will be the second part of our conversation, because first, after all, the story with the firearms bill, it worries me, to put it mildly, because it cannot be in the conditions when there is a war , we are trying or not we are there, the government. is trying screw the nuts in terms of making the weapon so

complicated to use. i know that you have read this bill in detail, or, but you know, all these painful moments are connected with this bill, i would like to hear your opinion, do we need such a law in the conditions of war? well, i want to say that the original idea of ​​the draft law, it was, accordingly , to... allow to provide wider opportunities for citizens to own weapons, yes, firstly, it is for self-defense, and secondly, again, for the protection of the homeland in those conditions that exist today, but as a result of the work in the specialized committee, as a result of the work of the ministry of internal affairs, we have very strange such amendments, which are... stricter than even russian legislation, and which are simply frankly, well, let's say

, with knives in the back, at the moment , the ukrainian defense, here is the first thing that catches the eye, if, let's say directly, that according to this draft law, for example, you cannot take out as an instructor, you cannot take out a sniper group on landfill, especially there to the landfill in the neighboring one. region and so on, you have to put yourself in the hands of the ministry of internal affairs and so on, suddenly, then someone pretended that you did not do it or something, you are immediately... of course, what is your position in the ministry of internal affairs, it is very easy to lose , and then the person is guilty. again, we see that, well, for example, you are as a sniper, for example, in the sumy region, yes, and you are, for example, a part of the armed forces that fight and

protect the border, but at night you are... carts are lifted and thrown into another area where you, accordingly, you close the enemy's breakthrough , you fight heroically, then it turns out that since you did it with your personal sniper weapon, i will emphasize that a very significant part of the snipers fight with their personal sniper weapon, we only from the 244 rifles that we provided to the defense forces of ukraine, 200... 41 were given for personal use, here it turns out that you are already a violator of the law, and you must bear a very strict responsibility for this, of course, which is absurd, because training becomes impossible, combat work becomes impossible, it becomes impossible that you, for example, there, through comrades -in-arms who have certificates of the same caliber, you simply

hand them over to the boys, which means ammunition to... the front, you are already guilty, and here are such totalitarian tendencies, they are very strange to me, because ah all this effort it is impossible to do so at all, actually in ukraine, for example, sniping, impossible constant training of the civilian population, all this naturally undermines the defense capability very seriously, and then there are very absurd requirements for ownership. short-barreled weapons, many snipers cannot carry with them for self-defense, respectively, well, i don't know, some kind of bow and something else, and we would like to have a glock 17, 19 or 45 with us, but, let's say, it's very difficult to get it, and very often people

buy it, they wait until they are awarded with this weapon, then they are either... awarded, or they are awarded there with a weapon that they already had, and so on, people do not have the weapons that they would like, for which they would already have money paid, and in the professionalism of these people in the fact that they will not use this weapon right-left, it is clear that there is no no doubt, however, some people i don't know are absolutely immature. they start there in chernivtsi, like the son of a judge, to shoot into the air with awarded weapons, and now it is proposed that such people be awarded, they have been there since the age of 18, in fact, to award a military man, then this is on the contrary impossible, because all kinds of conflagration are foreseen there , consolation, and all this

is absurd, all this is stupid, and by the way, it is systemic, because, for example, we... a few years ago we made a workshop for repairing weapons and ammunition, there were only requirements, and let's say, then, we saw that yes, it is, let's say this, well, very difficult to pull, but it is possible, now, when it turned out that we are already doing it, we urgently need it in one of the regions of ukraine, and accordingly, it is really has to do with the military. walls to the combat brigade, here it turned out that there are such strict requirements for what this workshop should be and so on, that is, not only is there an absurd law, but there are all kinds of prescriptions of the most diverse, bureaucratic, which are accepted at the bottom, also, they are also brutalized, and accordingly, they often make the development

of sniping and the development of the population's ability to self-defense impossible, this is absurd. if we look at bulgaria, when the law was passed that all people have the right to carry a gun, there are women there, well, anyone, then, accordingly , crime immediately fell 10-12 times, that is, yes, there are excesses, of course and yes further, but very immediately the psychology of the population changes, and even i would say, well, we should have stopped being afraid a long time ago, if in the kyiv region... the armed population met the russian federation, it would be a completely different war, and if we didn't have so much, let's say, on the first day in gostomel, there were so many problems and the like. that is, it is already clear here, obviously , we realized in practice that we should have it like in texas, that everyone can own a weapon, and accordingly, every responsible

citizen, he really has the right to defend his own home and defend his homeland, in that including from their own weapons. then, when we talk about these amendments to the draft law, we can actually claim that they... carry systemic risks to our defense capability, because firstly, they limit our training system, they minimize, relatively speaking, the readiness of the population to fight the enemy with various small arms, and then the question arises, who then in the parliament, relatively speaking, pushes this bill, because a significant number of reports actually come from the ministry of internal affairs, but somehow it does not look entirely logical and appropriate, because the ministry of internal affairs is fighting in the same uniform brigade. front, then why are there so many critical things in this draft law now, which are actually unacceptable from the point of view of defense capability, do you have an understanding of why this is

so in the parliament, well, it is clearly manifested now? well, it is completely incomprehensible to me, especially now it is the anniversary of the death of denys monastyrskyi, and they are all very proud of the fact that he decided to distribute automatic weapons from cars to anyone who happened to be in kyiv. well, if, well, we remember, this is a controversial decision, when volunteers, soldiers came, say, to territorial defense, as in ours, and let's say, they did not get these assault rifles, and it is not known who is there in the armor took them, and they needed it for the picture, there is something else, i don't understand this shuffling from side to side, actually, and accordingly you have an extraordinary one. simple thing, yes, you have a conscious population, this population is a nation that protects itself, that's why it's clear that you are quite

capable in the modern informational world, let's say, to avoid such excesses that weapons are there in crime, we remember we are witnessing how one of the volunteers was shot there by bandits on... teremkas, respectively, from the weapons that the convicted person received, respectively, due to your ministry of internal affairs, and accordingly he used this weapon, keltek 9 mm, and accordingly shot an azov volunteer with this carbine, and here accordingly, well, it is an extremely, very simple situation, if you would, put yourself in order, even according to the existing... rules , let it work, and let people already train, let people, therefore, acquire professions and so on, and on the contrary, think through the system,

how can you really liberalize, let's say this whole situation weapons, allow more people, and accordingly, so that people really well were responsible for the future of the country, not just like that and... how, let's say, well, at the moment they answer, but the way they answer in israel, that they know that either they have weapons at home and they will immediately go to fight, or, let's say they know where the nearest point is, where to get this weapon, and it's his rifle, shot with it, with which he accordingly knows all its features, and he will fight with it, because you understand, then here are all these recipes to hand out... assault rifles, well , then they gave out assault rifles and whatnot, and later in the career we used to shoot there, because it was not even clear how he shoots

, well, actually he deviates to the right, left, up , down, all this, well, a weapon is a high-precision tool that you must have, you must adjust it so that it does not have any flaws and accordingly, if well... you have to use it if there is danger to your country. all the more absurd are all these edits, that if they are just going to destroy the sniper business in ukraine, then , accordingly, at the same time, these edits should all be thrown into the trash, because snipers do a great job , accordingly, 12% of losses among russians are the work of snipers, and accordingly, at the moment, to do with a sniper that he has no right to do anything, accordingly, not a step to the right, not a step to the left, with nothing, with with a rifle

, not with cartridges, and from... accordingly, well, some absurd situation, which, i don’t know, they copied it from some south korea, because even in russia there are no such absurd norms regarding the possession of weapons, mr. yury, rather for sure from north korea, we have literally two minutes, i would like you to tell us about what the funds are currently being collected for, what you are currently purchasing, where to donate, because the work you are doing now for sniping is extremely important, tell us what we are collecting for, where are we going? well we are now collecting for very good super rifles as we managed to get long range rifles, this is a macmilen tak-50 in the cadex box, we managed to attract a few, each of them is a super rifle and according to how we had a record with the owner obriyu, this very rifle was the first in the world and

respectively by 3.5%. the kilometers once fell from it, accordingly, we also got vitrixes in the 375th caliber, we tried the actual 408 caliber, well, we still think that we will still drive in the 375th, and we are also carrying a large batch of berets in the 416 caliber, new berets, this is very cool weapon, so everyone is fascinated by it, because it is very penetrating in ... destroying the enemy's manpower, there , respectively, 2.5 km and so on, from a cold barrel, from the first shot, you can hit, and it's very cool, also, it really excites us, because 375 caliber, as in caliber 50 bmg, turned out to be extremely accurate, accordingly we are also very satisfied with it, we are now trying to give sniper groups

... who can pull such long-range, high-precision rifles and already, let's say, from the 338 caliber, he pulled out everything he could pull out , we are trying to give these rifles, accordingly, of a larger caliber, and you see that the come back alive fund also collects very correctly for whole groups there with machines, with everything, as we usually do, and they collect there for 100 cadexes in 375 -th caliber, it is not very clear to me what this will show bed, then as a result, but at least these rifles will be there, and if things go bad, then it will be possible to redo them later, and accordingly , we are still paying a lot of attention to the fact that any sniper group is large, it is completely defenseless if it has

there are no own... drones and, accordingly , the ratio turns out to be from six to 10 snipers and , accordingly, four drone operators who work, because both aerial reconnaissance is constant and drone strikes, and it shows itself very well, this is exactly such a combination, if snipers now go out without drones, it's extremely high risk, and it's counterproductive when they go out with drones. thank you very much for these clear explanations about the bill, i think we will be heard, this bill will not pass as it is currently proposed, thank you very much for the work you are doing for our armed forces, i will remind the audience that you can report on facebook, there are the details of yuriy chornomorets, which will be used to purchase rifles for our armed forces, i would like to remind our viewers that that my interlocutor was yurii chornoma. this is

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