it was not raised or, well, it was not voted on, we will continue so that there are reports at each session, by the way, there are interesting reports that are currently being prepared, for example, about the restoration of ukraine and also about possible sanctions, again, and in what way organize this process precisely so that those who should suffer from sanctions suffer. heard. thank you, evgenia kravchuk, people's deputy of ukraine, was on the espresso tv channel, and we thank her for this opportunity. actually, ms. yevgenia, we asked what is happening now at the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe, now we will have a few minutes break, after which we will return to our studio, we have a lot of interesting things ahead of us, so stay with us, a few minutes and we will be back. discounts on tosmay -

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live now where you are. well, today the prime minister of poland, donald tusk, arrived in kyiv. yes, he said that his country remains ukraine's most reliable ally. yes, quoting donald tusk now, we have a lot of bilateral issues to discuss, there are some conflicts of interest, we know about it, we will talk about it, but in the spirit of friendship, to ... solve these problems as soon as possible, not to support and not multiply them. well, a meeting between the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi and donald tusk has already taken place. well , the extremely important news also arrived that the polish prime minister and the polish government have already arrived appointed the commissioner for the reconstruction

of ukraine, he, the person who will implement this policy, became a deputy of the polish diet, the head of its commission. on poland's foreign policy, pawel koval, this is an extremely important signal, and now i will quote part of the speech of the president of ukraine: every day we fight for freedom together, we remember the participation of poland and lithuania, we remember the words for your freedom and ours, about this stated the president of ukraine at the conference, at the press conference in kyiv, and noted. that there were good talks with the prime minister of poland, first of all they talked about the polish defense package, thanks to that support we have the opportunity to jointly purchase weapons, this is an extremely important signal. yes, well, we will add to

our conversation viktor dudukalov, the deputy chairman of the berdyansk district council, actually mr. viktor, we will ask about the situation in the temporarily occupied territories, in particular in berdyansk. glory to ukraine. glory to heroes. so, we would like to ask you to briefly describe the situation in general in the territory, what is happening there now, what are the most urgent people who stay there face problems, and in principle , we ask you to inform our viewers about some such latest news. well, our population continues to live in that total, i don't even know how to say it correctly, or a scoop, or for some reason even worse, then... because total lawlessness is absolutely in the territory of berdyansk district and in general in the occupied part of zaporizhzhya region, lack of medicine, practically non-working infrastructure that is already living its life, which the occupiers cannot do anything with it,

they don't do anything with her, today their agenda is propaganda on the eve of the presidential elections, or rather putin's elections, they don't elect a president, they only elect him. always , today the locals say that the last bookstore has closed, that you can't even buy books anymore, more or less not russian, but at least something, because the russians destroyed everything possible in libraries, universities, and so on, well, even today we understand that people stay there, and those who even get passports still hate the occupiers, but they go for passports, because a passport is survival. because without a passport, without registration of the russian language, they cannot get any services, the russians are simply physically trying to erase everything that is ukrainian, they understood and feel that there was not, as they said, fertile ground for them there, that this it's not russia,

it's not russians, it's ukrainian territory, that's why they're trying to push out all-ukrainian from there exclusively physically, unfortunately, through torture, repression, including life... it's simple horror. mr. viktor, well, we understand that there are regular flights to the temporarily occupied territories, in particular and near berdyansk, we would like to ask you about the arrivals, in particular to the town or village of chernihivka. yes, and in general, what is happening in the melitopol area, because we understand that the liberation of berdyansk, it should move in very specific directions, and accordingly, melitopol is among the most important, what is now in melitopol? and in general, what is the situation regarding shelling? and about berdyansk, actually about berdyansky district, chernihivka is the berdyansky district , it is located a little further north, at one time we had enough information that chernihivka was chosen by the occupiers as one of those

points that are not in the rear, but very popular for them, because there are huge fields, plantations, and they it was very convenient to hide equipment there. there are reservoirs, ponds, and in general this, well , the territory of this community has been affected, well, in the context of the civilian population, very seriously, because the occupiers there, as of... today , there are an incredible number of them and there have always been many, therefore, the equipment and ammunition, which they have placed there almost since the beginning of the war, since the beginning of the occupation, have always been good targets for our armed forces, and accordingly, they have more convenient logistics there, because there is a railway nearby, it is not a dead end , the berdyan railway dead end, there is a branch that goes along the sea, but it is more northerly than the sea, therefore... they are tokmak chernihivka - this is , so to speak, the middle strip of the zaporizhzhia region, which was also used for logistics,

or rather was also logistics for them and respectively, the points of personnel storage, personnel location , equipment storage, and in addition, if , if we say in the context of arrivals, then indeed, this is chernihivka, an urban-type village and the surrounding villages, an incredible amount of equipment is stuffed there, but in the place of the last was from the arrivals. very much, which hit the occupiers primarily morally, it was at the port, and there was information that not so long ago one of the pyrelots had arrived at the training ground in the berdyansk district, there is the village of novopetrivka, and the locals reported that there was one of the flights there, they say that it is most likely that it was a drone, and accordingly, due to the fact that there is ammunition there, the detonation was quite long there, and so the last, well, the trend of the last cottons in the territory of the south of zaporizhzhya region... these are really drones in trendy, in the trend of the accumulation of equipment and in the trend of the accumulation of enemy ammunition, because

the locals, well, the locals not only know where everything is located, they report the coordinates, and then the echeloned legendary air defense flies very well, flying over 100 km. we thank you. viktor dudokalov, deputy chairman of the berdyansk district council, informed us about the latest news in berdyansk and in particular in the district. now we will go for a short break, after which we will return to ours. studios, so stay with espresso, the information marathon is working for you. there are discounts on citramon darnytsia, 10% at travel pharmacies and save money. on january 22, at 7:30 p.m., the vinyl agency will present taras chubai and songs sung by all of ukraine on the stage of the lviv opera. guest of the concert lviv men's academic choir chapel dudaryk tickets on karabask - live sound.

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purchases of ukraine and poland. in general, in your opinion, the ukrainian-polish relationship will unfold now? cooperation, well, in the context of a certain cooling that happened just a couple of months ago, and the so-called polish blockers played not the least role in this matter, yes, the topic is much broader there, but there are a lot of problems that need to be solved, how seriously will the ukrainian and polish politicians take the real cooperation? well worth it to note that all problems have not yet been resolved, that is, we still have a whole range of problems, which are bilateral, for example, related to economic policy, with the issue. in the normalization of common approaches to the conduct of transit policy through poland in relation to customs security and the like, but the main issues are primarily related to the poles themselves, their producers of agricultural products want to cover their losses and possible risks at the expense of european aid and support

from the government , accordingly, the mechanism of this support should work. at the same time brussels is in no hurry to somehow provide this help, to resolve this issue, that is, to show its political will, and the new polish government , in turn, does not want to face the opposition of the street, the opposition of the people who are the nuclear electorates of its opponents, from here in the first stage of its rule. attempts to flirt with various groups, the absence of any clearer position, any tougher response to blockades, in particular by farmers, the prolongation of bureaucratic procedures, already on the part of the ukrainian public, expert spectorist was criticized for poland, that poland does not pursue a pro-ukrainian

policy too much, that more was expected from the new cabinet to help ukraine. that there are statements and declarations of the polish government and the polish president, but instead there is no practical manifestation of this, these actions at the border, the border is blocked, the position of the minister of agriculture is quite unambiguous , there are no exceptions for ukraine blocking ukrainian exports, that is, this is a question, well, it is not has not lost its sharpness, i hope that it will be successful during this visit talk about it seriously and... come to an actual understanding, see a road map for removing these problems, and also create conditions so that there are no surprises in the future, because it is important for us to be able to export our goods, it is important for us that our western border functioned smoothly, both in terms of military aid and

in terms of economic activity, because the blocking of our exporters, importers, it affects our... economy, our capabilities and stability, and accordingly , stability is now the main argument for the benefit of receiving even more help, even more support from our western partners. mr. vitaly, we completely agree with you, yes, and at the same time we understand that bilateral relations, so to speak, of deepened integration, deepened mutual support, they involve all the activation of the other side, when we talk, for example, about some such symbolic things, in particular as ... st. nicholas in kyiv, built at the expense of count branitsky, so at the beginning of the 20th century, what are the prospects in your opinion, to realize this, so to speak, informal promised to return it to the roman catholic community of kyiv? well, i ’m talking about any projects to return some

religious buildings in ukraine, i wouldn’t comment on it at all, because firstly, it’s not my topic, and secondly, as practice shows that sometimes, when there is political will, it happens quickly enough , and when there is no political will, there is someone's mercantile corporate interest, then it drags on for years, for example, as with the transfer of property... in relation to this informal promise there, not an informal idea, well, i hope that it will be observed, our main problem is that there is a certain declaration. and then this declaration breaks down the possibility of bureaucratic rapid implementation of bureaucratic procedures, that is , will it be supported by the political will on the part of the leadership

to speed up this process? if so, of course it will be done, if not, then it was also done, let's say with the religious buildings occupied by the moscow patriarchate, it was done quickly enough, but with regard to other stories, i don't see it yet, ugh, mr. vitaly, please allow me a little to move to the united states, yesterday we received information that ron desantis, the governor of florida, decided to withdraw his candidacy in the intra-republican primaries in favor of donald trump. well, we also have another track in parallel with that, which is actually support for ukraine. already this week, at least it is expected that the support package for us will be voted on. but, considering what is happening now on ee prai. in the republican party and donald trump's chances of winning after all in the elections in november, can we assume that this aid package for ukraine could be

the last, if donald trump actually wins the elections in november this year? i would not be categorical about trump and would not write off the possibility of cooperation with his possible administration, again, a possible administration? this is firstly, secondly, trump is quite unpredictable in terms of foreign policy, and sometimes he allows himself to make a 180° turn and move in a completely different opposite direction, i forgive him his own electorate, i say this all the time, if he is faced with the impossibility of implementing agreements, big strokes, as he did, say in north korea and with other partners, then he turns around and takes certain actions, as purely from a business strategy. if you can't, he can't come to an agreement, come to some kind of understanding, and fix this understanding in the form of a document and security and guarantee mechanism of execution, then he simply gives possible, gives

a fishing rod, so to speak, and this can lead, for example, to that we are under trump we can get the weapons that we have been talking about for a long time, the long-range missiles and fire systems that we so need and the ammunition for them, or planes, for example, this is quite one of the likely... scenarios, this is the first, the second, there is a lot going on around trump the struggle between various groups and ideas, what to do with foreign policy, in particular with the war of russia against ukraine, there is a group that is considered, well, it is neocon traditional, they are the ones who are now concentrated near nikiheli, but among the trumpists it is quite tough anti-russian direction, it is not as popular as the reverse. bloc, but it also exists, and kurtwerker and many others say this, that near trump there are unconscious experts and possible candidates for leading positions in his

administration in the foreign policy of national security, who understand the need to support ukraine, but the forms and formats of this support, so they will change, it is obvious that trump will make us nervous a little, huh, mr. vitaly. we are nervous not only trump, you know, slovak prime minister fizo also made an unacceptable, i won't even say rude, just a strange pro-russian statement, when he marked, so to speak, the perimeter of some or other future peace peace structures, yes, that is, territories in exchange for peace, and that's it at least on wednesday, the day after tomorrow he has to meet with his ukrainian colleague... shmygal, so to speak, he will most likely voice some or the other, i don't know whether slovak or slovak-russian, claims, desires and so on. well, in my opinion, it

would be worth canceling this meeting, this is the first, but ukraine is not in such a situation to endure any diplomatic actions acceptable in such a situation, right? we need the support of slovakia, we need a unified position of european partners on the issues of ukraine's integration into the eu and nato, we need a border where there would be no problems for transit. ukrainian goods , so we will have to talk to fico, no matter what statements he makes, fico actually repeats orban's policy regarding ukraine, and his statements partially coincide with orban's, but it's not only there fico and orban talk like that, it other politicians and experts also speak, they are not prime ministers or presidents of their countries, but this rhetoric is present in the european community, a lot.

the expert opinion of former officials and leaders , including nato, even the headquarters, asserts similar statements about the need to abandon the status quo, to recognize the reality of the political situation there, then these are things that we have to work with, somehow explain, clarify, to desuve, and as for the physio, well , we will have to talk to him, that there will be wishes directed more at the domestic political consumer, at one 's voter in slovakia, this is the first, second, it will of course confirm its loyalty to russia, since slovakia needs russian energy sources and russian money. and thirdly, the main target audience for this rhetoric and slovakia's actions is, of course , brussels, which it is also trying to milk, following orbán's example, to

get preferences. funds for the modernization of their own transport system, to receive funds to cover agricultural subsidies producers, to get funds to solve the social problems that are accumulating in slovakia, which the government is not able to solve, so here it is worth dividing it where we can agree on some concrete things, we have to do it and then show brussels that we have exhausted all possibilities diplomacy, and now we are asking you to put pressure on bratislava and somehow... to kill fitz from the point of view of the european bureaucracy, and to push bratislava of the same fitz to acceptable decisions, compromise decisions regarding ukraine, somewhere this is what the tactics look like now of the ukrainian ministry of foreign affairs and the government in negotiations with slovakia. we have a minute and a half, but i would also like to briefly, if possible, your assessment of the possible telephone conversation between president zelenskyi and the leader of the people's republic of china xi

jinping during the preparation for the summit regarding. peace formula, do you think the two leaders will be able to find common ground on what this peace formula should look like, because we know that china has its own point of view on this, and ukraine has its own, because i don't see an intensification of contacts of the second plan, for example, the prime minister and the state secretary the representative of beijing at the stalos summit , the prime minister, did not participate in... in the dialogue around the peace formula of china's foreign affairs shows no interest in the peace formula, er, let's say, in the format in which we propose as ukraine, china does not participates in many international platforms where it is discussed with the exception of several summits mediated by the saudis, so to talk

about... that there will be a phone conversation with zelensky, i am quite skeptical, since china participates in negotiations only when it is the center and his proposals for settlement are at the core. of course, thank you, thank you, we must finish. vitaly kulyk, political scientist, director of the center for researching civil society problems. in the meantime , it's time for aspress news, so we'll pass the floor to anna eva melnyk and ask anna eva melnyk to let us know what awaits us in this issue. greetings, colleagues, in this issue i will talk about... the most important thing, in particular, is what our country can count on after the session of the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe and what volodymyr zelenskyi agreed with donald tusk, details later, stay with us.

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