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martial law, still someone is thinking about elections and still someone is trying to think how to hold these elections. to what extent do you think there is a prospect that in ukraine, in some form, these elections will be held, well , it is meant, well, for example, through an action where a part of people who are abroad can participate by voting, or a part of people who went from their permanent place of residence because of the war and live as internally displaced persons, how realistic is it? well, in yours questions, they really think about the election, but it is actually impossible, neither legally nor politically, to actually hold them during the war. why are they thinking about elections? and because if we talk about the elections immediately after hostilities, it is very difficult to even roughly imagine them.

the results, because these results will directly depend on how the fighting ends, how the war ends, or at least some phase of the war, and so, if there is a question about whether it will end with the restoration of the full restoration of the borders of 91, then then the question arises, and what other questions will voters have during this election campaign, who will be responsible not only for victories, but also for those failures that happened in... ukraine, for example, before the war, during the preparation, and will it is very difficult to answer all these questions. therefore, of course, it would be logical and safer for the authorities to hold these elections during a military campaign, during a war. but here another question arises, how it can be done legally. well, that's why, of course, i can't imagine how it can be done, although i understand why someone would think about it. but i want to warn that even if it is theoretically possible to imagine that these elections can be held

during the war, the questions that voters will have about the various political forces will not disappear after the end of hostilities, i predict that after the war there will be an extremely difficult political period, when there will be a lot of questions, there will be a lot of scandals, there will be a lot of investigations, and it will be very painful for everyone, because it will be very painful to go through all that happened during the war, and this political tension , she... whatever will encourage politicians to hold new elections, to hold, i emphasize, new early elections, in the event that the elections before that are held during hostilities, so the problem will not disappear anywhere, and of course, the big question of legitimacy, well, if during the war there will be elections, what will be the question of the legitimacy of these elections, how can the integrity of the vote count be guaranteed , which international observers can we even talk about, and the most important thing, well, listen... and

how will the military participate in the election campaign? well, they can theoretically vote through action, but it will be wrong if we constitutionally limit their ability to directly participate in elections. campaign, and that's why there will be a lot of questions here, and that's why, taking into account all these questions, we have a situation where it is impossible to hold elections during martial law, but they are thinking about them and they will definitely be thinking about them in the future, because those problems , which are now there, they will not disappear anywhere, and we must say once again what president zelensky says about this, so that it looked like serhiy taran and serhiy rudenko were sitting on the espresso tv channel and rocking this boat and trying. to promote the idea of ​​holding elections there, no , friends, this is what president zelenskyi says, but on the other hand, mr. serhiu, if there are no elections during martial law, and this state of affairs can continue for several years or five years, does that mean that ukraine should live with

those elected deputies, with that elected president, with those elected local deputies. councils, where, by the way, 4,000 representatives of the opz remain, and they are active, deputies in local self-government bodies, what to do with this, with martial law, and how long this martial law lasts, and what to do with these people, and how to ensure democracy, if it is at all appropriate to talk during wartime, i would... suggest if only to restore faith and freedom of speech in ukraine, it would relieve the tension that arises, in particular, because of what you just said and because of the existence of the opszh in power, in some local authorities, and because of the scandals that from time to time time arise

in ukrainian politicians due to corruption, that is the full return of freedom of speech, i emphasize, which do not touch freedom of speech on military issues, but purely on social and political issues, would to some extent compensate for this political one. the tension that currently exists in society, which cannot be hidden by a single telethon, you know, if we often talk about the example of israel now, i want to remind you that democracy did not disappear in israel during the war, and freedom of speech also exists there, yes, there is censorship there, but it touches on military issues, i believe that it will be the same in ukraine in the future there could be censorship that affects military issues, but regarding non-military issues, there could be some kind of discussion, there could be different... positions, different points of view, and this would to some extent compensate for all the difficult questions to which there are no answers. i want to emphasize that these questions still arise, they arise in such a way that they then appear, for example, in foreign mass media, so now, paradoxically, during the war, foreign media are

now very popular in ukraine, because own zmi, well, started with a small exception in fact, they do not write freely about politics, or they appear in telegram channels, and there is... another problem is that the information that appears in telegram channels is anonymous, there is no signature under it, so you can put any whatever, there is no responsibility, it's bad, especially during the war, so i think that some kind of political discussion, of course with observance, i emphasize, with observance of the principles of national unity , should be held in ukrainian society, and there may be a desire to hold elections there or not elections will disappear altogether, because at least from the conditions of compliance with the principles of national unity. perhaps, even under the conditions of the creation of a single coalition government, this other issue would also be, by the way, very important to discuss now in ukraine, perhaps it would remove all these issues that exist in ukraine. by the way, it seems to me that a coalition government would definitely be a good alternative to early elections during a war. a coalition government - this

would mean that all ukrainian political forces would enter it, would take joint responsibility for what is happening in country, accordingly , no one would have grounds for political speculation... and it would be right, and it would be very, by the way, good for our international partners to see such a unity of ukraine, and it would definitely be better , than wartime elections. you mentioned journalists, and the two stories that are literally unfolding before our eyes are the story of the journalist yuri nikolov, who was approached by unknown people, began to knock on the door there and plastered his apartment with... what he is afraid of there something, a person who wrote about corruption in the ministry of defense, this story with eggs for 17 hryvnias, this is the story of yuriy nikolov, on the one hand, on the other hand,

monitoring over a long period of time those who work for denys bigus, in the team of journalists, investigators, well, we we see how in principle all this is happening, how it is all presented, how everything is developing, we see a not very quick reaction of the authorities, because for several days they thought about doing something about it, then after all... zelenskyi said that it is necessary to protect journalists and the security service of ukraine announced that they will now investigate who these scoundrels are who put pressure on journalists, but here are the bells, they are talking about what is obviously, obviously, the office of the president, who invites to his meetings executives, or journalists, anonymous... completely in others see democracy and freedom of speech in ukraine, i'm not talking about, i'm not talking about the three channels

that were also sanctioned, it's not at all clear when they were thrown out of t2 espresso, the fifth channel and direct, what do you think it is trying to achieve zelenskyi's team, that is, they they want to curtail freedom of speech, they want... to say that journalists are not the main thing here, and how do they react to this in the west, how does the west perceive it, that is, for the west, journalists are always the fourth power, but it tries every time to show that journalists - these are drug addicts , dodgers, i don't know, and so on, that is , they write a lot, a lot about journalists, and they allow themselves to do it, again, these anonymous telegram channels, which from... there are very, let's say, in honor of the representatives of the office

of the president of ukraine, well, this is an example, you gave for me, they are an illustration of how difficult it is to suppress freedom for journalists, even in wartime, so any such attack remains even more attention to what journalists are doing and to themselves, and of course it will not be good for anyone, not even the journalist. nor those who try to suppress this freedom of speech. well, and if it doesn’t make sense, then why do it, impersonating ukraine, because really, the west is watching what is happening in ukraine very carefully, and considering that the ukrainian issue is now, well, on the agenda number one in many political discussions in the west, well, for example, in the united states, this is one of the first issues in the election campaign, then any scandal there is very keenly perceived. it immediately becomes widespread in the mass media, it is constantly talked about by politicians, and politicians

who criticize the authorities that support the provision of aid to ukraine, they immediately say, who do you support, look, they have corruption there, they will suppress even freedom of speech there , so it is very bad when such cases happen, and of course in the west it is very bad they take it seriously, very badly, because for them it is still freedom of speech, it does not disappear anywhere, even during war, especially if... journalists write about some troubles in the government, i will emphasize the position once again, well, this is my position, and in principle, in general, it is supported in the west, and of course, during a war , restrictions on freedom of speech are possible, but if they touch on matters of military security, the movement of armed forces, information about shelling, i think it is absolutely right when there is a requirement not to publish, for example , work air defense, these are absolutely clear things, i think that no one from... has any doubts about this, but if it touches on some other issues related to corruption, with the transparency of the government,

then no one supports restrictions, because , on the contrary, it only worsens the situation with ukraine's security. that's why in the west they look like this. i think that i would like that, of course, there were more reasons in ukraine to talk about the fact that democracy has not gone anywhere and post-war actions will not take place, because it is precisely because of values, precisely because of values, that ukraine is now makes common values. and the west , and ukraine, and we must think about this, because anyone who violates such values ​​in ukraine, thereby undermines the unity between the west and ukraine, undermines the possibility of help from the west of ukraine and clearly does not work for ukrainian victory. after what is happening to journalists, ihor mazepa was arrested, and the investment company concord capital was searched, and now. we are watching how public organizations and businessmen start

talking about it out loud and talking about what this is unfair, in particular the public business movement manifesto 42 announced a warning action in case of further ignoring by the authorities of the arbitrariness of the rear security forces, on february 1 , business owners will suspend the work of their companies for an hour, we are waiting for the state leadership until... 12:00 february 1, 24 year of further steps to solve the problem that threatens the national security of the state, the president of ukraine and the government should develop and submit for consideration in the supreme council legislative initiatives developed by the public movement manifesto 42 with the involvement of leading lawyers, aimed at limiting the abuse of power by werewolves in uniform, during searches, arrests, accounts and property. one more story, mr. serhiy, the government and business, that is , the government and journalists, the government and business,

there is also the government and the opposition, but we will not talk about it during this broadcast, because yes... he said that there is no opposition , that is, this is the impression that i simply got into the times of yanukovych, when there was no opposition, all the people of donetsk were around, in terms of business, what do you think about all this? i think that now it is necessary to make every effort so that business remains in ukraine, i think that those people who are currently engaged in business in ukraine are actually heroic, well, for sure, well, definitely second only to the armed forces, because now they... the conditions are somehow something else maintain, somehow try to keep jobs, somehow pay taxes, which, by the way , the country now lives and works, and in particular, the armed forces of ukraine are supported, well, you have to be able to do this and you have to respect it, it seems to me that instead of tightening the nuts, it would be better now to fully liberalize business, give the opportunity for it to develop, to remove all

checks, of course, funds are needed , taxes are needed, but this can be... talked about with western partners, because ukraine is now protecting them as well, and therefore our western partners may well help economically now in ukraine, about this of course, the message of the negotiations is necessary, our diplomats must work on this, insist on this, but all barriers must be removed for ukrainian business now, well, we understand that if there is also pressure on business now, then it will simply stop working, with what will develop ukrainian economy, so i... believe that it looks very ugly now, when any pressure is exerted on business. even if we imagine that there are some violations in some business, i think that at least as long as this business pays taxes, it should develop, and then after the war we will figure it out. moreover, you know, now because we don’t have such a free discussion, any event like

the death of a businessman will still cause some speculation or some hypotheses, as well as on... is there an arrest or mazepa 's detention, a lot of theories and versions are also being developed now, i think that this is wrong, at least considering the fact that now in ukraine we need trust, and when one businessman is arrested and the other is not arrested, the question immediately arises, and why, why can we have a theoretically selective kind of justice, i really would not like it to be the history of ukraine, and therefore now the most important thing would be to remove all of them. business issues, just give them the opportunity to work, they pay taxes as much as they can, let them work, then after the war let's figure it out, we're saying that in ukraine with politics, we need to put a pause on politics, and deal with everything after the war, maybe we'll do the same with business, of course, as long as it pays taxes and receives the armed forces, thank you mr. serhiy, it was serhiy taran, a political scientist, a person who knows

almost everything about ukrainian politics. friends, we are working live on the tv channel. express, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us live on youtube and facebook, please like this video, and also vote in our poll, because today we ask you about the following: do you trust anti-corruption law enforcement agencies, yes, no, if you watch us on tv, pick up your smartphone and vote: yes 0800-211-381 , no - 0800-211-382, all calls to these numbers are free, then we have dmytro snighir , a military... expert, co-leader of the civil rights initiative, mr. dmytro, i congratulate you and thank you for being with us today, congratulations , mr. dmitry, on the night of january 23 , russia launched a combined missile attack over ukraine, air defense managed to destroy 21 of more than 40 enemy missiles, including 15 cruise missiles, and

according to the ministry of internal affairs , as a result of the attack. people died, at least 40 others were injured, mr. dmytro, as evidenced by the latest mass attacks by russians on the capital and other cities, how does the current nature of these mass attacks differ from the previous ones? well, it is worth mentioning that the masked nature of the attacks of the russian occupiers was primarily aimed at residential civilian infrastructure, this distinguishes it from the previous ones attacks i explain 40 missiles to about 30% - these are missiles that have a certain radius of deviation from the target (x-22 - several hundred meters). s -300 - anti-aircraft guided missiles, these are, respectively, used for strikes on kharkiv, they have a radius of deviation from targets of about 50

m, that is, we can talk about the fact that they hit with indiscriminate types of weapons, which, accordingly, lead to numerical facts, e - well, to numerous legacies of civilian casualties. population, in addition, it is worth talking about the fact that there was a combined nature of the attack with using both cruise ballistic missiles and, accordingly, anti-aircraft guided missiles, it is also worth noting that it was not by chance that the attack on civilian cities of ukraine, that is actually of the russian federation, was considered as a response to the one actually created by the russian special services. provocations in donetsk, by the way, piskov stated that, in fact, the missile attack should not be considered as a response to the strike on donetsk, but when such statements are heard,

it should be clearly understood that, accordingly, the missile attack on donetsk itself with numerous facts of victims among the civilian population and strikes on kyiv, kharkiv and other ukrainian cities, which led to numerous human casualties, this is the planned nature of the special operation. of the russian federation, which was aimed, i emphasize once again, at terror against the civilian population. mr. dmytro, the situation at the front remains quite tense in the avdiyivka area, as reported by oleksandr syrskyi, the commander of the ground forces of the armed forces of ukraine, the situation in the siversk and bakhmut directions remains extremely tense and characterized by intensive use. by the enemy fire of artillery, mortars, attack drones and conducting assault operations. what do you say about the course of recent events at

the front, and whether the forecasts of the analysts of the institute for the study of war of the united states of america come true regarding the fact that the russians will go on a wider offensive in donbas. well, let's start with the fact that the institute for the study of war is an information error that should not be commented on at all, besides, according to sources close to the ukrainian special services, until yes the so-called institute for the study of war, is related to the infamous anton yuriyovich gerashchenko, a person prone to the so-called hype in his activities. i have repeatedly been on the air on your tv channel for simple information, the so-called institute for the study of war, and it is worth saying that the character of the disinformation has a constant, well, let’s say permanent character , regarding the actual attack on kharkiv, well, if

the institute for the study of war refers in its forecasts to the opinion a russian literary critic, then it is worth talking about, well, how minimum or disinformation or planned nature of information and psychological operations directed primarily against ukraine. agree, if a literary critic assumes that there may be frost in january, and accordingly, the russian federation is waiting for the right moment when the ground freezes, at this time in the east of ukraine the temperature is below 20°, then this is evidence of the complete lack of information of the so-called institute for the study of war. but unfortunately, this information is massively disturbed by the ukrainian media, not even over. forecasting the weather, not to mention about the operational situation directly on the line of combat, this is worth talking about, unfortunately, i repeat once again, we have

a complete insecurity in the information space of ukraine, in which such dubious information institutions can operate, which openly misinform about the nature of hostilities, i will also remind you of the previous report of the institute for the study of war about... the possibility of conducting amphibious operations in the operational rear of the armed forces of ukraine, i'm sorry, only a lazy person did not refute it. it is not the 22nd year, even the events of february 22nd, viz the landing of the landing force in gostomel led to the complete liquidation of the personnel of the airborne forces of the russian federation. currently, the saturation of the combat line with short-, medium-, and long -range air defense means is sufficient to neutralize... any threat of large-scale amphibious operations, and what does large-scale mean? one transport helicopter can take no more than 20 people on board.

personnel, so let's imagine the scale of this operation, conducting amphibious operations in the operational rear of the armed forces of ukraine, this is an outright fool, but i emphasize this fool once again, they are picking on her, what is happening at the moment in the kupyansk direction, the extremely difficult situation in the senkivka area, the occupiers are trying to break through the positions of the armed forces of ukraine, control over the dominant forces. it is in this area that allows the armed forces of ukraine to keep the situation under control, but after the occupiers captured krokhmalnyi, and this was confirmed by the armed forces of ukraine. currently, unfortunately, there is further pressure on the tabaivki district, with an effort to go to the flanks armed forces of ukraine. but it is worth noting that once again, kharkiv will not be under attack. occupiers are primarily interested in

ukrainian cities. slavyansk and kramatorsk , which are located in the donetsk region , in my opinion, according to the information that is currently available from the scene of the events, the occupiers are preparing a breakthrough on the city of izyum with the aim of creating a strike group that will hang over the flanks of the ukrainian troops concentrated in donetsk region and it is not by chance that last week tsirskyi announced the plans of the occupiers first the turn of seizure of donetsk region and the most. a difficult situation precisely in the directions that are concentrated in the donetsk region, it is not by chance that he also mentions the lyman direction, by the way, it is worth mentioning that the possibility of an offensive of the occupiers in the leman area , we reported on your airs six months ago, but why was this information openly ignored by the ukrainian security forces, then it was said that

the personnel and heavy armored vehicles were being stuffed, respectively, with the aim of creating an operational encirclement of the ukrainian troops in siversk district. currently, syrsky this week says that the goal of the occupiers is and is an attempt to break into the siversk district and create an operational encirclement, so i apologize if the law enforcement agency gives information for six months, igur, i'm sorry. does not respond, then this is a question for the main intelligence agency, the ministry of defense regarding inaction or activity, but at least there are more than enough questions, and in fact, regarding the events that are currently taking place in the lyman direction and, accordingly , those events that are also taking place in avdeivskyi direction, because the breakthrough of the occupiers in the area of ​​the tsar's village, which is currently

being discussed and confirmed by the armed forces of ukraine itself, is accordingly, well, it is difficult to give comments here, they should be given to the relevant services regarding the nature of this offensive. thank you, mr. dmytro, for the conversation, it was dmytro snigerov, a military expert, co-leader of the public initiative of the right to the right. friends, we work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those watching us on social media right now, please don't be shy, and please like us to promote this video in youtube trends, also follow our social media pages, we are everywhere, we are in telegram, we are in twitter, we are in instagram, we are in tiktok, there is espresso everywhere, please stay with us and read our news on espresso tv website, we are working for

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