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did the ministry of finance, placing its domestic state loan bonds in december and already, by the way, in january of this year, well again, well, we are talking to you about the deficit of the state budget, 40 billion dollars, 40 billion dollars to our gdp , well, that 's about 20% of gdp, just imagine that 20% of gdp is compared there, say, with the gdp deficit that we had for the 22nd year predicted for the year. well, about 3% of the gross domestic product, if there was no war, the war changed everything there, but it’s just not comparative things, just so that your viewers and listeners understand when speaking, when someone talks about that, let's still have a possible chance, this is the inclusion of a printing press there, it is not a chance when ukraine had a deficit of the state budget in the early 90s x years ago approximately 30%, now 20%. gdp in ukraine was
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30% of gdp in the early 90s, then the state budget deficit reached 10,00%. and by the way, a month ago the magazine the economist wrote about inflation in argentina and used the article that i first wrote with about the hyperinflation in ukraine in 1993, which is called hyperinflation, ukraine is falling into hyperinflation... they use this experience for argentina and speak for economists about what we think that after the experience that the world had in general regarding the financing of such an inadequate deficit of state budgets with the help of the mission, argentina will not return to this, well, i believe that ukraine, after this experience of the 90s and early 90s, will not even talk about it in any way, but this is not an option and as far as i understand yes, western aid
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is extremely important here, i thank you for joining in, there are indeed conversations about this on our broadcasts from time to time, we listen to all sides in order to understand with the audience and to know and understand what problems ukraine is facing today. oleg khustenko, adviser to the president of ukraine on economic issues, was a guest of svoboda ranok. thank you. and now about the elections in the usa. the former president of the country, donald trump, wins the republican primary in the state of new hampshire. this is reported by the financial times. this is the second one the state where the primaries took place, that is, the republican primary. donald trump won 53% of the vote. his competitor in this state, nikki haley, ex-us representative to the un, took 46%. earlier, trump won by 10% in the caucuses meeting of party supporters in the state of iowa. you know, we've beaten vnumpshere three times, three times, three times, and we're winning every time. we won. we're going to win the general election,
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we won it, and it's a very, very special place, to me, it's very important. the associated press agency writes that joe biden won as a candidate whose name was required to appear on the ballot, his name was not on the new hampshire ballot. however, his supporters organized actions to include his name in the ballot. biden's campaign team prepared a series of events, an advertising campaign dedicated to the fight for the right to abortion. as part of the tour during his election campaign. biden in virginia devoted his speech to this topic. he publicly accuses republicans of repealing abortion rights. we are fighting hard to restore your rights and rights to protecting the women, families and doctors who care for these women. and we need the american people to continue to make their voices heard so that the republicans in congress finally understand that these laws do not represent the united states of america. your
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voice will be crucial, this is not the end. according to the results of the primaries, the candidate from each of the democratic and republican parties, who will win the most states, will be able to submit his candidacy for the election of the president of the united states, which will take place this fall on november 5. voice of america correspondent iryna solomko will tell how the voting in the primaries took place in concord, the capital of new hampshire. in the evening of january 23. the first primaries ended, they attracted the attention of not only the united states, but probably the whole world, because according to experts, very often the victory in these primaries shows who will eventually become the candidate of this or that party. we are now at the precinct, in the town of concord, this is the capital of the state in which we worked all day, and literally the doors of this precinct closed at 7:00 p.m. local time, and literally in 20 minutes the head of this precinct and... who is called
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the moderator here, he was able to announce the results of these primaries to journalists and observers, and here i am now i hold these results in my hands, that is, this is essentially the protocol. of the precinct commission looks completely different from the one in ukraine, first of all, because this protocol is issued by a machine, that is, during elections in the united states, votes are counted not by people, but the machine just counts the votes, that is, during the voting, the ballots get there, it scans them, it counts the results and, in the end, simply issues the final data. in our precinct, niki gailey won, that is, 321 voters from the republic voted for her. and, accordingly, 293 voters cast their votes for former president donald trump, and the turnout at the polling station was 50%, which is a little less than the state authorities initially predicted, and the secretary of state said the day before that they expected the turnout to be
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will be 70%. many of the voters who came to the polls and voted for nikki haley, they are not republicans, they are so-called independent voters. "i voted for nikki haley, i hesitated because i would have liked to see someone less controversial than mr. trump, even though i like trump's policies. he did good things when he was in office. i didn't vote for him because of his family values, and because of the way he treats people, but his policies were good and he stood up strongly for the united states, which i don't think is being done now. having said that, i think nikki gale is a more moderate person." i think she will do her best to get the country back on track and restore it to a better place in today's world. former president donald trump's voters are not the first to support him election. i know a lot of people don't like him for whatever reason, but not everyone
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is going to like someone and that's what makes us different. i just think he's good for us right now and my main reason is that after 11 september he lived in new. when it was terrorist attack, so i think he's the best for the job, for the united states. plus he is a good businessman. despite the fact that the national committee of the democratic party decided that the first primaries will not be in new hampshire, but in south carolina. the state authorities did not agree with this, and they made the appropriate decision that, after all, historically, for more than 100 years, these primaries were held here first. and that's why they will still pass the primaries, including the democratic ones , so the democratic ones too took place, but they didn't have the candidate joe biden, respectively, and so a lot of people, in new hampshire, a lot of democrats, they decided to start a campaign called a write in, that is, in essence, it called for president joe biden to be written in on
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this ballot for to show your support. the people of new hampshire believe that everyone has a right to be. and now registered democrats have 21 options on the ballot, but joe biden, who is preferred by most democrats, is not on the ballot because of the national committee's decision democratic party. we still love him, we still respect him, and i think he's the right person right now, and among democrats and independents, he has tremendous support. and we want to send a message to washington that new hampshire matters and that joe biden matters. in general. for joe biden that way, that is, by writing him on the ballot, he was voted for, at least in this precinct where we work, by 385 voters, in fact, that is even more than the voters who voted for nicky haley. despite donald trump's claims that these
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primaries in newhamshire will be a complete defeat for nikki haley, according to the preliminary results , the gap between them is not so big. this means that the struggle continues, and we will see its next round already. on february 24 , in the state of south carolina, danica haley was the governor, and that's when the republican primaries will take place there. znihamshira, iryna solomko, pavlo teryhop, voice of america, specially for radio liberty. next, we will continue to talk about the american elections and actually about the winning scenario for ukraine, what he can be. oleksandr kraev, an americanist, director of the north america program of the ukrainian prism foreign policy council, joined us. i congratulate you, i congratulate you, good morning to you. for today, what is clear: trump's victory over nicky hayley in the state of new hampshire, does this finally bring him into the election race with biden? of course not, because yes, new hampshire does set a certain narrative. new hampshire showed us that
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while hali remains popular, there is support in hali, but that support may just not be enough. ago, unfortunately, everything looks like if everything stays the same, then indeed trump can... can become a candidate, but there are a few buts. the first big one, but in principle the main one, is precisely the decision of the supreme court, which should be issued sometime in early february, the main session. takes place on february 8, and the decision could simply bar trump from running for office, under the 14th amendment to the us constitution, which bans anyone who took an oath to the constitution but then rebelled against the united states of the states, to hold any elected office , that is, until there is a supreme court decision, until it is clear whether trump can legally run for any office at all, then nothing is over yet, because if trump is blocked in this way. .. then the republican party has only two choices: either raise a new rebellion and risk
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everything for trump, or really side with nikki haley and go with this option in the hope of defeating biden. but if everything is clear with nicky haley, so be it either she or trump, so as for joseph biden, he is the only such major candidate for the democrats, can something also change? there , changes are almost impossible, because, first of all , he really is the only full-fledged candidate. powerful federal level politicians, and secondly, this is already a kind of american tradition, when the ruling party, which sends the president to fight for a second term, it unites around this president, because he is really the most popular, he can really show what has already been done result, it can show certain achievements, and that is why the party itself does not risk putting him in any competition, because it would just be a waste of money, time and effort. oleksandr, if we talk about which scenario among these candidates is likely, well
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, let’s take these three, there is nikki haley, donald trump and joseph biden, which scenario is the most, so to speak, winning candidate for ukraine from those public statements that we today we know, well, of these three scenarios, two are positive for us, these are nikki haley and joseph biden. joseph biden because he is predictable because we understand how to work with him, what his interests are, what his strengths and weaknesses are. and we basically saw that for a long enough time he was almost one hundred percent pro-ukrainian president, and despite the problems created by the house of representatives, the white house did everything possible to help ukraine both financially and with weapons. nikki haley is also an absolutely positive scenario for us, because she is the first republican candidate who started talking about what ukraine should give all the weapons that states can give, except nuclear. she is the same republican candidate who says absolutely clearly that... russia must be stopped, ukraine must win, because it's not just a matter of what's right, what's morally right, it's
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just a matter of benefit to the americans, it's a matter american national interests, so actually two of the three options are positive for us, but there is a big problem that the third option is gaining popularity very quickly, but can there be such an unexpected turn in the change in donald trump's position, or at least there are pre-election public statements , but in fact it is possible that his actions were there. would be more decisive about supporting ukraine in this russian-ukrainian war? everything is possible with trump, he predicts not only in his unpredictability, so in fact nothing can be said for sure about him, but this is the main problem, the problem is precisely that we cannot predict what he will be, we cannot even do now an attempt to predict what will affect the making certain decisions. we know only a few aspects for sure. first of all, he will obviously be engaged in the first half of the year. exclusively domestic politics , persecuting political opponents, working
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with the legal ministry of justice, working with his advisers, forming a new system for himself, well, it was not for nothing that he already said in an interview that he would like to be a dictator, so he will obviously have a very tense domestic program, when he will be able to return to foreign relations, this is a very difficult question, and precisely this uncertainty, when he will actually engage in american leadership, it is negative for ukraine as well. for all american allies, i thank you, alexander, for joining our broadcast and talking about such an important topic, because on the one hand, the names are loud, we know these people, yes, but how does the electoral system in the usa work in general, it is very differs from the ukrainian one, it is not always clear to us. thank you, oleksandr kraev, director of the north america program of the ukrainian prism foreign policy council, was a guest of svoboda ranok. greetings, here promptly and i will briefly talk about what they are talking about in the network. this is how the turkish parliament approved sweden's application to join nato. turkey, as
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a member of the alliance, has not ratified the application of the policy of military neutrality for more than a year and a half. sweden and finland, let me remind you, refused after the full-scale invasion of ukraine by russia. i expect that the president of turkey erdogan will sign the document ratified by the parliament in the coming days. director of investment company concord capital ihor mazepa was released from custody on bail, the newspaper reports. this became possible after mazepa's bail was reduced from almost uah 350 million to 21 million . mazepa is suspected of organizing a scheme to expropriate the land of critical infrastructure of the kyiv state public administration. the entrepreneur pleads guilty. and already today in uzhgorod , a meeting between the prime minister of slovakia, robert fiitsa, and the prime minister of ukraine, denys shmygal, is scheduled. a lot of attention will be paid to the visit, because fitso is known for not supporting military aid to ukraine, and a few days ago he said that kyiv should compromise on the issue of its territorial integrity they said that the only way to
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end russia's war against ukraine is to give up part of the territories. that's all for today, more news. search in our social networks, telegram, facebook, instagram and tiktok. the president of ukraine submitted a draft law on multiple citizenship to the verkhovna rada for consideration, as he defined it, he defined it as urgent, that is, one that should be considered out of turn, well, this law, according to zelenskyi, will allow all ethnic ukrainians and their descendants from different countries of the world. all who in the periods of different waves of emigration. forced to leave his native land, finding himself in europe, the usa, canada, asian countries, latin america, all those who help us, despite hundreds and thousands of kilometers from our native land. the text of the draft refers to more than 30 countries whose citizens will be able to obtain a passport in a simplified manner, it refers to eu countries, the usa, canada and japan, and also
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defines the grounds and list of persons who are prohibited from receiving it, for example, will not be able to receive it. his convicts in ukraine or abroad for a serious crime or those who pose a threat to national security. it also refers to those who may be deprived of their ukrainian passport, for example, those who voluntarily acquired citizenship or served in military service in russia. currently , the legislation of ukraine determines that a citizen can have exclusively ukrainian citizenship. expert nicolo sees a certain conflict in this. the constitution says that there is a single citizenship and at the same time that a citizen of ukraine cannot be deprived of it. citizenship and the right to change citizenship. thus, legally dual citizenship is prohibited, but de facto, it exists, and there is no penalty for holding a passport of another country. instead , the presidential bill proposes that a person should consistently recognize himself as a citizen of two or more countries according to the laws of these countries. in order to acquire ukrainian citizenship, among other conditions, it will be necessary
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to pass exams on the recognition of the constitution, the history of ukraine, and the ukrainian language. at the same time , experts consider. on certain disadvantages: a person with several citizenships may be obliged undergo military service, or in some countries she may be prohibited from holding public office. it is worth mentioning that this is not the first such draft law initiated by zelenskyi, in particular, similar documents were submitted already in 2019 and 2021, however, then the verkhovna rada postponed their consideration. we will talk about this topic later. ihor koliushko, chairman of the board of the center for political and legal reforms, joined our broadcast, sir. i greet you, good morning, does this law proposed by the president contradict the constitution of ukraine, do you see are you certain risks here? well, i admit that this is a controversial position, there are many lawyers who believe that it is contradictory, there are those who claim that it is not contradictory, so
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in fact here it is being done, or rather , the trick is being continued, now i will explain, i will explain it, so when the constitution was adopted , in 1996, the fourth article of the constitution, after long discussions, about, and in fact all discussions were, whether there could be another citizenship in addition to ukrainian citizenship, there, well, of course, the communists fought for the possibility of dual ukrainian and russian citizenship, others there still fought for hungarian, romanian and so on citizenship, after long discussions. of many different options , the fourth article was voted in the editorial office , there is a single citizenship in ukraine, later in 2001 , in fact, such a change took place, when the law on citizenship was changed, it was written that there is a single citizenship in ukraine, it is written in the law,
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not in the constitution, the constitution is unchanged , there is only one in ukraine. citizenship, which means that there is no citizenship subject of administrative-territorial entities there regions, the autonomous republic of crimea and so on. in fact, such a change took place, a change in the constitutional norm without replacing the constitutional norm itself, and therefore a part of lawyers, myself included, believe that this is inconsistency with the constitution, and... and a part believes that, yes, yes, they say, it is possible, such manipulations can be used to change the constitution, and actually this manipulation is the basis of this draft law, in it... again, the principle of single citizenship is presented due to the lack of citizenship of the regions of ukraine, further, the only
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what is new here from the point of view of citizenship, this is the list of countries that you have already mentioned, for which simplified citizenship is introduced, simplified citizenship is written, although i was not able to understand it right away... actually, in general, the law from a legal point of view very complicated and problematically written, simplified citizenship, and then in that article, which has always been in ukraine, it said that the injury of acquisition, the deliberate acquisition of citizenship of another state, is a reason for the loss of ukrainian citizenship. in this article make an exception, excluding the country. citizenships of countries for which a simplified regime is established, thus it seems to really legalize multi-citizenship, that is, multiple
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citizenship for the countries of the european union, the usa, canada and japan, everything else remains, well, close to what was in the current law, in some places the regulation in this law is improved. in particular, there , in relation to knowledge exams on knowledge of the constitution, on knowledge of the history of ukraine, the ukrainian language, many novels are introduced related to the defenders of ukraine, those who came to fight for ukraine, who fought and actually wants to acquire ukrainian citizenship , this story is simplified for them, they will be able to acquire it faster, that is mr. igor, it is so very interesting that you, an expert, even find it difficult to understand. in this document, i am not talking about that, but when we want to understand with the audience what multiple citizenships are all about, there are already questions and obligations of citizens, yes, that is, a person
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who has these several citizenships, she will be obliged to undergo, for example, military service both in ukraine and in another country, or she can a person with such multiple citizenships to hold public positions, for example, there in ukraine, again, or in other countries, what about taxes, where to pay them, how it should be regulated, well... answers to these questions are directly in this bill no, and there are two two versions, one version, that together with this bill they want to restore the bills that president zelenskyy introduced in the 21st year and consider them, there again there was a different version of the law on citizenship in a new version, but no the one that is being submitted now, i.e.... obviously , this bill is not planned to be revived, but there was another bill that prohibited access to public positions
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to persons with any dual citizenship, and here it is not clear how how it should be combined, of course, there can be different, different options for the development of events, and maybe the people's deputy of ukraine maria will help us figure it out now. mezyntseva, deputy head of the committee on integration of ukraine with the european union, joined our broadcast, i congratulate you, now you help us figure it out, this is this initiative and law, kudos to the heroes, this draft law of volodymyr zelenskyi on multiple citizenship, what rights and obligations does he, well, plan to grant and how do you and your colleagues feel about it, thank you sincerely for this opportunity, i am joining you in the pariah meeting, just in this organization we have. with a respected expert, the question, the main thing, is how
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the duties will be distributed, yes, this is the duty of military service, and the duty to pay taxes, and very, very many social guarantees that citizenship will provide, introduction in this citizenship, it is not written in the law, that is why the law does so. the initiator, president zelenskyi, will enact the law directly here in order not to overload the law, that is, it is also legally incorrect to write down bilateral agreements, so the draft law , so the framework, we, we take it as a framework for multiple citizenship, someone talks about bipatrism, well, you and i know people and public ones, including those who have three citizenships, i know such people who are not public, who are who... it happened, they were born in ukraine, they love ukraine, created a family, moved to another country, continue to keep in touch with this country,
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divorced and already received. citizenship, well, it happens, this is life, but let's take care of those citizens who before you, for example, were not born in ukraine, have relatives of the first, second line of the closest kinship, and such children, or they may already be adults, will also have the right for admission to ukrainian citizenship, and this means why the law, the text of the law was submitted, because everything was correctly stated, we had three attempts, so in 2020. in the new year , believe me, we had such, well, some negativity from large, large public organizations , which are represented by our colleagues, friends, ukrainians all over the world, they were not satisfied that ukrainians with foreign passports had already acquired the citizenship of others countries, returning home will not be able to...
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take a job in the abs category, that is, they want to help ukraine and want to return precisely for this, to work in state structures, and this was excluded by law. we can talk a lot allow me to note two important points: this is the fourth article of the constitution, which talks about a single citizenship, why there was a lot of speculation, and in general on this topic, someone from the lawyers called it a gap. bearing in mind that we do not have regional citizenship, that is, the constitutionalists put in their philosophy that ukraine should be unitary, indivisible and united, there is no citizenship of kharkiv oblast, the autonomous republic of crimea, sumy oblast, or transcarpathia, and that is why now, on the day
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of the cathedral, president zelenskyi... also intended to unite more than 60 million ukrainians around the world, who today continue to help our ladies marie, i understand that the support in the parliament will be for this law against this law, so sorry, i did not hear, the support in the parliament will be from you and your colleagues, what do you think, what are your evaluations of the co-authors of the alternative laws are sitting right next to me, i will find out at the nearest plenary session, and then i want to ask mr. igor one more time, we have a minute left, mr. igor. maybe you have something to answer, ms. maria? well, i would, the only advice, when you talk about what the constitutionalists laid down in the fourth article of the constitution of ukraine, then first of all it would be best to ask them themselves, well, for that, turn to the transcript of the constitutional process, and see if at least one word was
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said somewhere about ... citizenship of kharkiv region or citizenship of lviv. the discussion was exclusively about whether, in addition to the citizenship of ukraine, citizenship of other countries, russia in particular, can be obtained. the communists fought, introduced it in five or six different versions, as possible to carry out veiledly, to carry out the possibility of preserving citizenship alongside ukraine, citizenship of russia. and here for. and the discussion was exclusively about this, ladies and gentlemen, the discussion, i see that we will continue around this multiple citizenship, but unfortunately there are 20 seconds of airtime left, i thank you for joining, i hope to continue this discussion, ihor kolyushko, chairman of the board of the center for political and legal reforms and maria mezyntseva, people's deputy of ukraine, joined our broadcast, we talked about multiple citizenships. such was the broadcast of svoboda ranok, join us, search for
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