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with serhii rudenko from now on in a new two-hour format. even more analytics, even more important topics, even more top guests, foreign experts, inclusion from abroad, about ukraine, the world, the front, society, and even feedback, you can express your opinion on the day of the day using the telephone survey, turn on and turn on, verdict with serhii rudenko, every day on weekdays from 20 to 22 for espresso. we are returning to the airwaves and already joining the conversation serhiy danilov, deputy director of the center for middle eastern studies, mr. serhiy, we are glad to see you. good afternoon, the radio is too much for you. mr. serhiy, let's start with bashkortostan, the protests started there, are they still going on, have the russians managed to quell this protest. spirit, that’s how it was extinguished,

but this crack is very noticeable, and it will still show signs, and we will talk about it many more times, and how now they calmed down the residents, well, there is a specific point, the area in which the main protests took place is quite remote, it is almost 400 km across the ural ridge in... in fact, the extreme east of bashkatostan, the southeast, that is , the area is far from the capital, from ufa, where, after all, much more people live, and where there are significantly fewer bashkir speakers, but this region , where the protests took place, is mainly a rural, remote, bashkortostan-speaking region, in which there have already been protests, primarily environmental, but not only, and which... somehow directly affects

the atmosphere in the republic, but without ufa, without the capital, without support in big cities, it is not worth counting on the fact that this protest will become somehow decisive or radically change the situation, but the seeds that were sown there in the east of bashkirtistan, they are slowly sprouting, and they are changing the atmosphere, they are changing the attitude towards the regional authorities, radii khabirov, well, this governor, the head of the republic, what is his name there, he is very famous, but in general to the agenda, about what we say is important, uh, there moscow would like everyone to talk about bad ukraine and about the victories of the russian army, here the agenda changes to uh, the rights of the bashkirs. on their ideas about their own

homeland, about the place of bashkirs in bashkiria, about the protection of the national language, and these are all different points related to identity. that is to say , we had a little bit of attention attached to these stories, we take a little wishful thinking for granted, we hope that this is... a spark that will ignite the flame of a new, new a russian riot, senseless , but merciless, well, and not, of course, you understand, after all, the protests, which were able to force the riot police there to flee to the police , there was no such thing in russia, i’m not the pametevskys anymore, a long time ago, but the swamp was quite a spectacular phenomenon . but it was not there, there were clashes,

but no one was able to make amon run away, in bashkartastan it was still there. a demonstration that the government is not all-powerful, that it must agree on some issue, yes, they released those whom they detained, well, with the exception of himself the person involved, huh, they somehow entered into a dialogue, i spent several half-days there , i spent listening to conversations between the protesters and these policemen, they were not the protesters , they were not afraid of the police, they did not behave like slaves, but if you look at... other regions of russia, the police behaves very self-confidently, here it had to justify itself, and this example, it is as far as can be understood, maybe this is a premature conclusion, but it makes an impression on the russian audience, but

they are far from ready to support the protest in this form everyone, everything is quite complicated in russia, and i would n't expect it to explode tomorrow. mr. sergey, have you perhaps seen this video, which was cut from the broadcast of the all-russian family forum, that’s what it was called, where putin was approached by a reindeer herder in his national costume, and he, on the one hand, it’s so a little funny the video looks like, and on the other hand, it seems that this man, this reindeer herder, was trying to troll putin, because he is so funny. on the face, he said, we cannot broadcast it, because it is in russian, although with such an accent, where he says that all the children receive putin's money, and with this putin's money they want to buy milk for themselves, but where to buy milk in the tundra, when

there is no store in the tundra, and then he invited putin to the tundra, because the whole tundra says that putin loves you, putin missed you, tundra, you looked very much like that. trolling, yes, i saw it in passing on twitter, but you have to understand that it's all staged, and it doesn't happen there, well, i don't believe it was impromptu, uh, i think it's just local they overdid it, in moscow they took it for granted that it really looks like trolling, and that's why they cut it, but it's just a vivid testimony of the ideas of the local authorities. about how to talk to putin, well, about the fact that in russia it is not enough to simply say that we support putin, but we must already use such metaphorical and different techniques, as they talked about

lenin, then about stalin, a kind of cult of personality, which is now being created, and it is being created, perhaps even without the direct participation of the kremlin, but the general atmosphere. in the russian federation, it is such that it pushes people further to extremes and statements about war, the world, domestic politics, culture, the institute of philosophy, or putin, for example, well, one more topic, the parliament of turkey ratified sweden's membership in nato, here somehow, unexpectedly, erdoğan threatened something very much, that 's what. will happen and suddenly it happened, well , he threatened and promised that he would ratify, after all, let's remember the summer of last year, when the issue was raised on the agenda, he said that it would be so, and what it happened, well, we agreed on the f-16 with

the united states of america, actually it was only for this, and after the government was appointed, by the way, well... well, quite excellent, without bright anti-western personalities after the presidential and parliamentary elections, well, it was clear that there would be some steps towards a meeting, and it would be unprofitable for turkey to quarrel with the united states in the conditions of war, well , to quarrel very radically, but the most important thing is that obviously the contract for the f-16 has been signed, turkey will be able to update its aircraft fleet. new bombings in yemen , the operation continues there, to which everything is leading, well, to the fact that the united states and its allies will conduct bombings to, as they say, degrade

the ability of the fosuts to interfere with shipping, obviously it can lead to some ground local operations in the port. well, and besides, there was a new bombing on monday, missile strikes were carried out by the americans and the british, and they described them as taking place outside the borders of the coalition, uh, the coalition is doing one thing, and we they did something qualitatively different, what is different, it was not just the shooting down of missiles there, but strikes on air defense equipment, on radars, around sana’a airfield in... different points in the hall of yemen, in order to ensure complete dominance in the sky

over the part of yemen controlled by the hosites, well, as far as we can see now , the military has received, the american military has received approval to continue the operation on a more intensive scale, they themselves, by the way, do not specify to what extent they have already destroyed the military potential. in very careful statements, allow that the operation may last longer than originally planned. regarding israel, what is the situation there, the anti-government speeches demand even the resignation of netanyahu, despite the fact that he has already created the government of national unity, all the children of all the ministers are fighting and one minister's son has even died just the other day, well, that's all, all as if it is done transparently, honestly, openly, everything... the army with the people, the people with the government, the government with the army, and still netanyahu's dissatisfaction, and can it

really come to some more serious things, well she it will definitely come, nathaniago perfectly understands that political responsibility will come, he is delaying it, and he himself promised that after the end of the war , special parliamentary elections will be held, in which he still hopes to win, or ... to create a loss in this way , to be able to form a coalition, to re-enter his position, however, what happens as soon as the war loses its intensity, although the other day was a very bad day for the israel defense forces, there were heavy losses, but nevertheless, as soon as the intensity of the fighting decreased, as soon as the danger that the army... would lose, or that something would go wrong with the gas disappeared, it became clear that

there was no longer an existential threat to the gas ; there was no threat from there, the second objective was to dismantle the power of hamas, but as soon as the existential threat receded into the background, or disappeared altogether, the question of responsibility, responsibility, who until... until october 7, because of whom all this happened, immediately arose , and the dissatisfaction of netanyahu, it is sufficiently large and well-deserved, in my opinion, in my personal, completely non-expert opinion, uh, since his fault for what happened on october 7 is very great, by the way, about october 7, or even not so much about october 7, as about that the world is now trying to interpret these... events , the washington post wrote an article about the fact that people are now spreading such ideas that, as

they say, on october 7, israel itself staged all of this in order to start a war with palestine. moreover, such a mood appears among people, especially among young people, that there was no holocaust, and in general that was happening, this is an exaggeration of what happened to the jews during world war ii. in this trend, mr. serhiu, in the united states, the youth and more than 20% believe that it was a myth or an exaggerated meaning of the holocaust, this is some threatening data, how should we react to it, what should we do about it, well, it does not apply to israel as such , it concerns the state of affairs in cities, global society, let's say, where the ideas of... spirologists are becoming very widespread, my colleagues from the textua site, once before

trump won the election, they did a project in which analyzed the networks for the distribution of this information and the messages that are being spread for trump, and they then said that trump is going to win the election, that we underestimate the scale of the conspiracy networks, these quanon, we underestimate the degree of uh, not degradation, but ... fantasy and ideas , which are spread there, and we underestimate the extent of the spread. a flat earth, there are reptilians, the rochschilds who rule the world, this is all the day before yesterday, but this, this conspiracy world, it is unfortunately presented now more than ever, and it gives rise to absolutely chimerical ideas of people about the world, and

this is a symptom of a very serious and dangerous disease. when their own states begin to be perceived as enemies, when people are ready to start a civil war, in fact, and we see now divided societies, by the way, on the eve of october 7, israel was also on the verge of a cold civil war between two camps, the conventionally left and liberal camp and the netanyahu camp , and this was one of the reasons that helped... hamas to carry out the attack on october 7. mr. serhiy, thank you for helping me figure out what's going on in the eastern world. serhiy danilov, the deputy director of the middle eastern studies center, was with us, dear friends, we remind you that the collection is ongoing, join it, transfer your funds. for this morning

, you and i collected uah 12,00, which is not much compared to yesterday. 28 thousand, but we still have the whole day ahead of us, and you still have time to add to the assembly, if you haven't done it, our soldiers from the 141st brigade will be extremely grateful to you, and now we will, now we will tell you about how in kyiv region in the village of chubynski, wild animals, lions, porcupines, wild birds and squirrels are being rehabilitated, everyone willing can contribute to their quick fate. more about the residents of this center and how you can help them, see our story: wounded lions, tigers, wolves and many other wild animals, there is a wild animal rescue center in chubynskyi, kyiv region, here the tails are rehabilitated and prepared for a better life, many had to be rescued from the war,

among them was tigriul, in the fall of the 22nd she was brought from kharkiv oblast, she lived in a private at home... in a small cage where the owner left it. the animal arrived at the center exhausted with a fractured knee joint, kidney and repair failure. it was still possible to operate on her, although it was a small risk, but thank god everything was successful, we were able to remove the pain in this joint, we could already see her running, recently during the next shelling, she hit the lattice and got a stroke. in which, of course, the entire rehabilitation rolled back a little, now the condition has cleared up, it is improving, i hope that we can restore, to such a stage where she can live a happy life, and this is the porcupine tosh, he entertained the circus audience all his life, and when

he retired, the trainer transferred him to the center, because he had to live in a small... box, now tosha has a habit of walking in circles in the enclosure when the animal is wild, they should live in the wild, under normal circumstances, but when they are put in a small cage, it is quite a big stress for them there, they lose a lot there, and so then, unfortunately, such behavior, when you plant a large enclosure, they still walk in circles like that. another resident of the shelter is venus from poltava region. the owners took her in when she was still small and thought she was a dog. but when the animal grew up, it turned out that venus is a she-wolf, and it became very difficult to get along with her. the animal was treated at the center and will soon be on its way. she will soon go to greece, they found good conditions for her,

together with another animal, together with another she-wolf, which we rescued earlier from the belarusian border. they will go together soon. among of all the animals in the center, swans live, they were rescued mainly from weather conditions, some birds are injured, others have an infection, recently six have already been released, another 11 are undergoing treatment. they were found by caring people, they were saved mainly by the animal rescue team of kyiv karkh, they are already saved due to ordinary situations, some were there... years, they got them, beat them. at the wild animal rescue center, animals are not hoarded, they are given help and released into nature or are looking for new homes. ukraine or abroad. the resettlement procedure is complex and long-term, at least three months, moreover, the animal must be healthy, because in europe

diseases are indicators for euthanasia. we don't transfer to zoos, except abroad, we transfer animals where there are, where there are large enclosures, because basically a zoo is a zoological park, yes, take it in europe, there is an enclosure for a bear. there are 2 hectares and above, the same for tygerlevo, it is customary to consider a zoo in our country, it is some kind of small aviary. you can support these wild animals in any way, with donations and products food, building materials, and you can also arrange guardianship, that is, help a specific animal and receive an honorary certificate. currently, there are 27 residents in the center. in general, during the great war in... more than a thousand animals were helped, more than two hundred were placed abroad, in addition, there are five ambulances working here, if you see an animal in need of rescue,

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