which, accordingly, lead to the numerical facts and to the numerical facts of the deaths of the civilian population, in addition, it is worth mentioning that the attack was of a combined nature using both cruise ballistic missiles and, accordingly, anti-aircraft guided missiles, it is also worth noting that.. accidental attack on civilian cities of ukraine, which is actually the russian federation, was considered as a response to provocations actually created by the russian special services in donetsk. by the way, piskov stated that, actually, it should not be considered missile attack as a response to the attack on donetsk, but when such statements are heard, it should be clearly understood that, accordingly , the missile attack on donetsk itself... by numerous

facts of victims among the civilian population and strikes on kyiv, kharkiv and other ukrainian cities, which led to numerous human casualties, this is the planned nature of the special operation of the russian federation, which was aimed at, i emphasize once again, terror against the civilian population. mr. dmytro, the situation at the front remains quite tense in the avdiivka area, as oleksandr reports syrian commander of the ground forces of the armed forces of ukraine, the situation in the siversk and bakhmut directions remains extremely tense and is characterized by the intensive use of artillery fire, mortars, attack drones and the introduction of assault actions by the enemy. what do you say about the course of recent events on the front and whether the predictions of...

analysts of the institute for the study of war of the united states of america, that the russians will go on a wider offensive in donbas, come true? well, let's start with the fact that the institute for the study of war is an informational one an error that should not be commented on at all. in addition, according to sources close to the ukrainian special services , the infamous anton yuriyovych gerashchenko is related to the so-called institute for the study of war. a person is prone to the so-called hype in his activities. i repeatedly refuted the information of the so-called institute for the study of war on the air and on your tv channel. moreover , it is worth saying that the character of disinformation has a permanent, well, let's say a permanent character. as for the actual offensive on kharkiv, well, if the institute for the study of war refers in its forecasts to the opinion of russia. who is a literary

critic, then it is worth talking about, well , at least, either disinformation, or the planned nature of informational and psychological operations, directed primarily against ukraine. agree, if the literary critic assumes that there may be frosts in january, and accordingly the russian federation is waiting for the right moment when the ground freezes, at this time the temperature in the east of ukraine is below 20°. then this is evidence of the complete ignorance of the so-called institute study of the war, but unfortunately, this information is massively disseminated by the ukrainian mass media, without even checking the weather forecasts, not to mention the operational situation directly on the battle line, but it is worth talking about, unfortunately, i repeat once again, we have a full the insecurity of ukraine's information space, in which dubious

information institutions that openly misinform about the nature of hostilities can operate. i will also recall the previous notification of the institute for the study of war about the possibility of conducting amphibious operations in the operational armed forces forces of ukraine. sorry, only a lazy person didn't refute it. this is not the 22nd year, even the events of february 22nd, namely the landing of the landing force in gostomel, led to a complete liquidation. personnel of the airborne forces of the russian federation. currently, the saturation of the combat line with short-, medium-, and long -range air defense equipment is sufficient to neutralize any threat of large-scale amphibious operations. and what does large-scale mean? one transport helicopter can take no more than 20 people on board personnel. therefore, let's imagine the scale of this. operations, conducting

amphibious operations in the operational rear of the armed forces of ukraine, this is an outright fool, but this fool, i emphasize once again, is picked up, what is happening in... in the kupyansk direction, the extremely difficult situation in the senkivka area. the occupiers are trying to break through the positions of the armed forces of ukraine. control over the dominant heights in this area allows the armed forces of ukraine to keep the situation under control. but after the occupiers captured krokhmalnyi, it was confirmed by the armed forces forces of ukraine. currently, unfortunately, there is further pressure on the tabaivka region, from efforts... to flank the armed forces of ukraine, but it is worth noting that once again, kharkiv will not be under attack, the occupiers are primarily interested in ukrainian cities, slavyansk and kramatorsk, which are located in the donetsk region. in my opinion, according to the information

that is currently available from the scene of events, the occupiers are preparing a breakthrough on the city of izyum in order to create a strike group that will hang over the ukrainian flanks. concentrated in donetsk region and it is no coincidence that last week sirskyi stated that in the plans of the occupiers, first of all, the capture of donetsk region, and the most difficult situation is precisely in the directions that are concentrated in donetsk region, it is not by chance that he also mentions the leman direction, by the way, it is worth saying about the possibility of an offensive by the occupiers in the lemano area, we... reported to your airwaves six months ago, but why was this information openly ignored by the ukrainian security forces, then it was about what was accumulating, accordingly, both personnel and heavy armored vehicles for the purpose of creating

an operational encirclement of ukrainian troops in the siversk region. currently, syrsky this week is saying that the goal of the occupiers is and is an attempt... to break into the siversk district and create an operational encirclement, so i apologize, if the right case gives information, in six months igur, sorry, does not respond, then this is a question for of the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense regarding inactivity or activity, but at least there are more than enough questions, and in fact, regarding the events that are taking place at the moment in which direction and, accordingly, the events that are also taking place in the avdeiv direction, because the breakthrough of the occupiers in the area of ​​the tsar's village, which is currently being reported and confirmed by the ukrainian armed forces, is accordingly,

well, it is difficult to comment here, they should give appropriate services regarding the nature of this attack. thank you, mr. dmytro, for you. conversation, it was dmytro snigerev, a military expert, co-leader of the public initiative right, friends, we work live on the tv channel, as well as on our platforms in youtube and facebook , for those who are watching us on social media now, please don't hoard, like us for this video to be trending on youtube, also follow our social media pages, we are everywhere, we are on telegram, we are on twitter, we are... on instagram, we are on tiktok, everywhere there is espresso, please stay with us and read our news on the website esreso tv, we are working for you 24 hours on 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, the most up-to-date information is available on our website, we try to update our feed so

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greetings, friends, the verdict program is live on the espresso tv channel. our second part will be devoted to the elections in ukraine, and let's see our announcement, what will we talk about? power without elections, postponing the election campaign requires agreements, is zelenskyy ready to share power with the opposition? rage of business: the government faced opposition from entrepreneurs due to the arbitrariness of security forces, will the government listen to businessmen? the sbi is at the center of scandals, trust in anti-corruption law enforcement agencies of ukraine is declining, how is it? restore. we work live on the

espresso tv channel and on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those who are now watching us in on social networks, please like this video and also take part in our vote. today we ask you the following: do you trust the anti-corruption authorities of ukraine? yes , no, please vote on youtube with the button either yes or no, if you have a special opinion, please write in the comments, if you are sitting in front of the tv, you can pick up the phone and vote, if you trust the anti-corruption law enforcement agencies, 0800 211 381, no. call 800 211 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are free, at the end of the program, we will sum up the results of this vote. i would like to introduce the guests of today's program, they are people's deputies of ukraine, yulia klymenko - the voice faction. ms. yulia, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. good evening. iryna

gerashchenko, european solidarity faction. ms. irina, i congratulate you and thank you for joining our broadcast. thank you for inviting me, good evening. oleksiy kuchyrenko, batkivshchyna faction. mr. oleksiy, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. thank you for the invitation. come on ladies and gentlemen let's start with a quick question, only very briefly if possible. since we're asking our viewers if they trust anti-corruption agencies, i'm going to ask you if you trust anti-corruption agencies. ms. yulia, you have the floor. i trust anti-corruption, law enforcement - no. thank you, mr. oleksiy, i don't really have reasons, i watched the development of events in certain processes, and i have justified claims. thank you, ms. iryna, certainly more than bep and dbr, but i would very much

like the authorities to prevent anti-corruption agencies from being involved in politics. why us we ask because sociology appeared, according to the results of social research by the democratic initiatives foundation, as of december 23, the level of trust of ukrainians in anti-corruption bodies, sap, nabu, nazk, was at the level of 51% or 52%, well, something like that, we in the first program of our first part of our program conducted a survey, and those who watch tv, those who vote... we had a ratio of tv audience on youtube 5% trust, 95 do not trust and 10% were on youtube and 90% were not does not trust, well, this is the ratio, however, let's start our conversation with the elections, because volodymyr zelenskyy started talking about them again, that is, not the opposition,

not journalists, not experts, but zelenskyi was asked... if he was thinking about holding elections in ukraine, and he gave an interview on the british tv channel the fourth news tv channel, and we will hear what zelensky answered. the verkhovna rada must vote and give a mandate for elections, they must raise this issue and vote, they cannot because of the prohibition by law, they cannot break the law and the situation is that elections are prohibited in our wartime, and the situation, if it could even be done, what to do with the occupied, temporarily occupied territories, and how to conduct legitimate elections so that they are recognized by the world, if we have

six more almost million abroad, and they must have infrastructure , unfortunately we do not have the format of the elections, and if you ask me, i believe that we need to think about how to do it, ms. irina, how can we think in order to do it? i think the authorities today it is necessary to really think more about how to hold the country and hold it primarily in terms of security, because... the war is not over, and it is important that the elections, when they are held, take place on the entire territory of ukraine, on a large territory of ukraine, don't you know that we have russia there and continue to tear our territories apart, and we need to focus on this, it is obvious that for the government, which is losing today, well, ratings,

objectively, it would be interested in holding these elections as soon as possible and prolong your time. in in institutions, in chairs, on positions, but in this case, president zelenskyi correctly says that elections during martial law cannot be held legitimately, they will not be recognized by society or the world, not only because of the impossibility of fully exercising their right to vote, refugees abroad , internally displaced persons who also live in such often dangerous areas in kharkiv oblast, in... the sonsk oblast, it is impossible to take military officers in the elections, because they are fighting today, and at this time there is a great demand in the country for the military to be represented in power, for them to... enter both the new parliament and the new government, and who knows what positions the military will hold, and the actual election process should ensure this right, both

active and passive, for everyone strata of society, and this is impossible during the war, at the same time, indeed, the parliamentary powers of de jure ended in november of last year, and it is obvious that the president and his team are discussing how the world will perceive... the society of may this year and such another, and it seems to me that in this one the answer that the government is obviously looking for, how to strengthen the legitimacy of the government, there is one recipe, it is a government of national salvation, it is a reformation of the parliamentary majority, which should create a new government of technocrats, and this government should be professional, be in dialogue with journalists, with business, to give very, you know... the right answers to these challenges that ukraine is facing today, otherwise, we really have very huge risks today of a decrease in support for all

government institutions, because, well, society it is obvious that such a period of depression is coming, it is difficult, the war continues, all this is very difficult and this is a time to observe how business is becoming a nightmare and what is happening with journalists and the absolute inability of the authorities to give an answer. society is not ready for the economic and other challenges there, and therefore our position of our political power, in order to strengthen the legitimacy of the government in the conditions of martial law, must through the reformatting of the majority in the parliament and the creation of a national rescue government, and this is not about chairs, it is absolutely there is nothing to share, it is about responsibility and professionalism. thank you, ms. irina, mr. oleksiy, the government without elections, because... martial law does not allow elections to be held, and martial law in the country can last a year or two, it can last five years, and it can last 10 years. , no one knows exactly

how long martial law can last. in such conditions, is it possible to talk about the conclusion of some kind of conceptual agreement between the monomajority and political forces, in particular those represented in the verkhovna rada, somehow... a certain agreement, an agreement about how the government operates under these conditions, i will remind you that in 1995, when the constitutional process in ukraine was quite difficult, a constitutional treaty was signed, which in principle resolved many issues until the new constitution was adopted by the verkhovna rada of ukraine , and in this way , kuchma, together with... representatives of the parliament, managed to remove the tension that existed, is it possible to count, or is it possible to talk about such a conceptual agreement? thank you, but i will remind you that during

the time of viktor andriyovych yushchenko, he was very much himself he loved, loved this business, station wagons, he constantly suggested critical moments to arrange a station wagon, it even seems like they were arranging there, yes, but practice has shown that with regionals, well, what can it be? universal, so i , to be honest, i don’t really trust it in this situation, the more i can’t agree with ms. irina, completely, or rather, i can’t completely agree, in part i can, that the creation of the government, as i don’t know how to call it correctly , national trust or something else technocratic, that it will replace the delegitimization of the same president, well first of all, let me remind you that mrs. iryna also said that the legitimacy of the deputies is also in question, yes, well, relatively speaking, four years have passed, if not now, then after a certain time,

but the same goes for you and me, colleagues, dear deputies, eh, apparently, the same claims can be made, well, not that claims, but there can be certain doubts and so on, so the situation really looks like a dead end, the only thing, i would like us not to confused different things, because in... maybe, i suppose, i don't consider myself an in-depth specialist there, a specialist in the constitutional law of the process and others, but it is possible, perhaps through certain changes in certain laws , to make appropriate changes so that during the martial law the country is categorically not left without a president, no matter what we want, no matter what relationship we have with him, but according to our constitution... min under this future possible coalition, he cannot completely

transfer all the powers of the president to himself without special changes to the constitution and laws. i have no doubts that this government is absolutely not up to the challenges of today, it is not professional, is not adequate in the situation, we , i and our faction, have been talking about it for a long time, and in any way we must definitely try, make an attempt to bring this technocratic government here, and the last thing, here the issue of legitimacy must be considered, as the president, and the verkhovna rada, as a grandson. in the internal aspect, as well as in the external aspect, you understand, because today this factor is external for us, it is a matter of survival, you understand that the issue of supporting a specific resource financial armory is a matter of the survival of ukraine today, i from the point of view internal, well, i think that the ukrainian people will somehow perceive this temporary illegitimacy, i don’t think that there will be any indignation, especially since certain ratings of zelenskyi, i

don’t completely distrust them, but the less they show that in he has a certain trust, significant , let's say this is an obvious fact, but the question of the external legitimacy of our president, who today, by the way, pay attention, he has finally concentrated on his main duties, he does not really get involved in government issues, it deals with the external vector, he is constantly communicating now, well , it’s not bad, you see, but he really may , after the end of his term, lack legitimacy, it will be a problem for ukraine as well, so i’ll be honest, i would expect a proposal from the president, as well as what needs to be done in this situation, including changes to the laws, and not, well, yes, sorry , it is somehow naive to say, well, there are deputies, let them decide there, well, this is absolutely not the case, it is counterproductive and ineffective in this situation, we are waiting for his innovations

and initiatives from the president, thank you... oleksiy, ms. yulia, obviously, the legitimacy of both the president and the verkhovna rada will last until the next president of ukraine is elected and until the next verkhovna rada is elected, well, at least in 2005, kuchma was the president of ukraine until 2005, although his term of office, if i am not mistaken, ended at the end of october 2004, but since there was a third round. presidential elections in november in november yes in november in november but he remained in office until the arrival of the next president of ukraine and the verkhovna rada too remains legitimate until the successors come and take over these powers, but here we are not even talking about the legitimacy of the verkhovna rada and the president there, we are talking about changeability...cracy

in ukraine, or should we even talk about the fact that well, people should use their right to choose during the war, and again, if this war will last not one year, not two or three, but more, do you think zelensky is ready to share power with the opposition, because in principle and monopoly power, and power that is in the verkhovna rada, for citizens there is a government that they elect. well, let's say that elections are always the result of a political process, in ukraine, well, it is as if the end of the political process, these are elections, at the moment there is no political process in ukraine, and in principle it cannot be, that is, parties, new, old , candidates, cannot implement their, they do not hold meetings with voters, de facto, they cannot conduct political

activity, they... do not have access to the media for the most part, they cannot convey they do not want their party programs , they see ukraine in development and during the war , that is , there is no political process as such in ukraine, therefore, accordingly, holding elections without a political process is a very dubious matter, and the legitimacy of this process, honestly, it will cause, i think , even more questions than the frozen situation that exists at the moment. i am not talking about technical details, for example, observers in the trenches and observers should be, including represented by international organizations, international observers, i want to see which of the international observers will go to avtiivka or kupyansk in order to see if our military is voting correctly there.