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-young vpu of ukraine? yes, good morning studio, well, we have since yesterday from the minister. social policy of oksana dzhelanovychai news, after all, payments will be extended until march 1, but this does not change anything for internally displaced persons, for people from kherson, bakhmut, mariupol, luhansk, zaporizhzhia regions, who lost their homes due to russian aggression , resolution of the cabinet of ministers no. 332, according to which internally displaced persons who... issued payments by august 1 2023, in fact they are losing, they are losing their funds, it is uah 200, it must be understood that these are small funds, and this is more a fish than a knife than luck, but, unfortunately, the state

stuck people who suffered from the russian aggression, and because of this for many people who lost. their homes , who were forced to leave everything, i know many such families who left, i apologize just almost in their underwear, from the burning bahmut, from the burning selodar, they lose these payments, and many people do not know how they will continue to live, and even in the comments of our youth association under our video about where we are from, by the way, you were the first to start talking about it, but... they write that people will return with their children under the bombing to kupyansk, to demarcation line, and some write that they will be forced to return to the occupation. these payments, please tell me for people who are not internally displaced persons in

their country, what amount they are, how big are these amounts, or not, for the period of today, it is for a person who is not disabled for... that person - it is 200 hryvnias, this is an absolutely insignificant amount, i am saying , it is more about a fish than a fishing rod, however, the state did not offer anything else to people who lost everything globally due to russian aggression, i am twice an internally displaced person, my family left horlivka in in 2014, and now we again left our... all our property, and so on, left bakhmut, and yes, everything that the state offered to the people, first a full-scale invasion, yes, it is 200 hryvnia payments, in fact, those 200,

still considering the huge number of idps, it is quite serious burden on the budget, you can understand , another reason, probably, which is guided by the cabinet of ministers, such with... a way to push to a certain extent, well, we also heard this opinion from officials, to push the idps themselves, the so -called, somehow more actively, i don't know, to look for a job, to arrange one's own life, to what extent these 2,000 are actually intermediate and important, yes, look, in our country only according to official information inside the country, according to official information of the ministry of reintegration of the temporarily occupied territories. 4.9 million domestically displaced people, ms. zhelnovych, minister of social policy, said that monthly payments cost the state uah 6 billion. i personally know families, for example, a family with three children who left bakhmut, lost everything there, everything, everything, everything, everything, left

there with one suitcase for four people, is moving to ryt, i'm not saying anymore about there, about lviv, about ivano-frankivsk, where it is very expensive, kyiv, where it is very expensive. rent is very expensive, people work, or one person in the family works, and for something you need to rent an apartment, and these 200 for each person are very useful, very useful, this, i understand that this is not an option, that we need social programs, we need social programs for housing compensation, as for our refugees abroad, we need programs for reemployment, for integration, for work with relocated educational... institutions, what our association is doing now , projects with donors, with international partners , but during the war, to stimulate people, to stimulate the economy, during such a big war, we think it is really necessary, we are waiting to see

what the law will be in the end about mobilization, which is currently being processed there, they are talking about some kind of electronic accounting of everyone and everything, about the fact that the draft will be reduced... we do not know to what extent, but i remembered that at the end of last year one of the heads of kharkiv municipal transport enterprises said that they could not find. er, drivers for trolleybuses and buses there simply cannot be found there by a couple of dozen people in the city of millions, well, now there are fewer millions, however, due to the fact that people are afraid to get an official job, men, since they can immediately, respectively to come, as they get on some radars of the tsc, relatively speaking, and they immediately come to them, is this the kind of problem that makes men idps. also not to seek legal registration, well, unfortunately, this

is a completely different issue, but the work of the tcc and communication about mobilization, in my opinion, it is absolutely wrong, and we have a lot of people who really want to defend their country, but with they have completely wrong communication, you know, in my opinion, in the opinion of our association, there are currently two strategic challenges in ukraine, this is work from the inside. displaced persons, and this is work with the armed forces and veterans, and we have 4.9 million internally displaced persons, uh, who , for example, i have no socio-economic reasons to stay in post-war ukraine, because my family left for the border, we have completely confiscated property and so on, i stay in ukraine because i love my country, i love living here, i have some friends here and so on, but i... have not stayed here because of russian aggression property, no prospects, and

there are really millions of such people, if they are in the post-war period post-war ukraine will simply be taken and left , and now many women who are left with payments and so on, they will go abroad, we will have a demographic catastrophe, it is already going on here in reality, we will understand about it a little later, but in this way.. . and it will be difficult to mobilize people, because you know, i have a family i know, their husband was in azovstal, his family left for lviv, and in the first months, if volunteers did not help them, they did not have funds for , because they are from mariupol, they didn't have any money for rent, no no no nothing, they were helped by volunteers, they fully furnished an apartment and so on, there are thousands of such families, and... our hero there is fighting at the front, and his wife and children

remain without payment and without any financial assistance during such terrible, such terrible events. mr. arkady, at the beginning of our conversation you said that people, having learned that they may not receive this assistance, as internally displaced persons decide to return to their cities, villages, ah... towns and return there, where is dangerous, now you you say that many women may decide to leave ukraine in search of help as refugees in other countries, do you already have any approximate, i don't know, any approximate calculations or any appeals to you as an association of young idps of ukraine about the fact that people still decide to go abroad. and, by the way, what do you think of lechenko for... that we need to take him by the legs, arms and return to ukraine, well, these populist populist expressions

do not even make sense to comment on, i will tell you this way, yesterday we united 84 public of organizations already signing an appeal to the prime minister of ukraine regarding the continuation of the possibility of considering the extension of payments until the abolition of martial law, and... and when we started promoting these topics, when the petition on the website of the cabinet of ministers about the extension of payments was signed by 25,000 people, only there in one, two days, the ministry immediately found money for another month, about payments, continued, yesterday we learned that payments will be extended until march 1, arguing that it is a tough winter and so on, that people are people. .. at least for the winter time, payments are still needed, people need payments who have lost their homes, it does not get easier for them neither in winter nor in summer, eh, and

so on, and such that i would like to sum up and say that in my opinion, and we see it in principle, that the war of the 21st century, especially such a big war, it continues not only for territories, and when we are there in the news , we rejoice that our defenders are liberating every village. every city and so on, the war continues for every person, i am personally happy when i know that one of my acquaintances went shopping, then someone was evacuated there, we helped, the first time we evacuated. evacuation of people, yes, this war continues for every person, and canceling payments to internally displaced persons does not contribute to victory in this war. mr. arkady, thank you, the head of the association of young internally displaced persons of ukraine, was with us, of course, i wish there was no such abbreviation and every person could return to his home, and it is good to have

a home, it is good to be able to come home home, unfortunately... not everyone in our country can do it because of the russians, yesterday there was a video from mariuppol, my god , it seems like a journalist, i don’t know if she is local or russian, went through apartments there, and they even invented a new term: apartments that were destroyed by russian bombings, they now call them destruction, and they are put up for sale, and so the journalist at that realtor says that such an apartment has been bombed, bombed, you can see where...

an expert and a journalist will talk to us about the fact that now polish farmers want to organize protests against ukrainian agricultural products, mr. marik, well, somehow it doesn't fit between our countries, like one fire, then another. good

morning, glory to ukraine, well, i talked about it more than once on our broadcasts, uh, and, well, unfortunately, i would not like to be such a molfar who says bad things, but unfortunately, it turns out that way, a- and that we will have many more such problems, as we are talking about agricultural products and logistics, because not only in poland is growing, even, i would say, a rebellion against the general agrarian policy of the european union. also to individual states, such as polish agrarians to the polish government, but all those protests are united by one thought of agrarians, and germans, and dutch, and french, and poles, and finally even lithuanians, slovaks, hungarians, romanians, even bulgarians, the thought that it cannot

be like this that uncontrolled agricultural products enter the european union freely. how does it destroy the local market, the agrarian and wild european agrarian market, and all this was used for this, too, the restrictions of the european union on agrarians, the so-called green, green order, i would translate it into polish, it will a green order, and a green order, which actually but easily curtails agricultural production in the european union, a lot of taxes. many new tributes, many restrictions, many restrictions, among others, when you can sow something and how, there are even such thoughts as to limit the sowing of a field and so that it, for example, lies for two years according to the law, and nothing can be sown on it and there is nothing to collect, so that

the land simply rests, so that the ecosystem adjusts, but this is something that is useful for... and in general, it is generally not useful for farmers, for example, they do not have such restrictions ukrainian farmers, and it is clear that the labor force is cheaper, cheaper, cheaper fuel, as in europe, plus, er, better land, the possibility of using some pesticides, which in europe still cannot be used , but it leads to the fact that what is the opinion of the agrarians of poland, france, germany, etc. countries, they don't have a chance to fight it on fair, as they say, er, chances with ukrainians, but you know, yes... such an opinion, maybe polish farmers instead of ukrainian farmers, ukrainians instead polish, because i don't think that polish farmers, for example, have mined

fields in their fields, but, but we won't actually be able to do that for one simple reason, a polish farmer has, on average, literally 10 or 20 hectares, so there's something so, there are restrictions, because otherwise there is no such help, there is no land from the huge ones, first of all, there is no land, land is a limited resource. agrarians are, as a rule, some kind of investor who owns tens of thousands of hectares and a lot of hired workers, here it is completely different, different structures of our markets, different agricultural culture above all, yes, and the circumstances are a little different, of course the circumstances are different, but i always emphasize what is being watched, i understand that there is a war in ukraine, and that is normal, but i... too i would not like to see what is happening in europe in 27 countries, according to the latest poll, in nine, at least, like in nine countries,

populists win the european elections, you understand all this, what are the circumstances, how will they take it along the way two or three more countries, then they will have a majority in the european parliament, forget it then about any help to ukraine, these parties are all connected, how well to dig into some reasons for... you don't need to dig deep, related to the russian federation, you understand that if we don't find a good solution somewhere, then the populists will come to power, and even then, well, i don’t know if it will be necessary to replace the seats, but it will be necessary to eat the trenches simply in europe, but everyone will wake up late as usual, but... fact with fact in europe, the french are not the same as the germans some poles do not think that there is a war in europe, it is somewhere there, it is somewhere there, there there

far in the east, that thought does not reach them, and they vote with a refrigerator, and on the one hand, the european union, i don't know, but there are actually people there who are a little detached. and look, and and and we have a stalemate situation , so in fact, at the same time, we cannot kill ukraine, because we cannot, because i believe that we cannot kill ukraine, because we, we cannot

kill europe as such, we cannot kill democratic values, for which cultural values, for which ukraine is fighting today and paying the highest price, and at the same time we cannot to kill our industry, well, because ours... and our people also have to eat something, and on the other hand, we also have to do it in such a way as not to allow all those populist idiots to come to power, well, then we are the khan and you are the khan, and look, but then whoever will figure this out, it will be, well, i will say realistically, a person who will find a solution, well, he should have received a prize, a nobel prize for a somehow sensible approach so that everyone would be fine, if only this person were found, i understood that there is no simple solution to this problem, pavel koval, at least the deputy who was not

recently elected to the seimas and now heads the foreign affairs commission of the seimas, says that he knows how to build this synergy between the polish, european and ukrainian markets, let's hope that in a few months he promised that the decision will be in the hands of the authorities, very pavel koval, this is great. he is a super person , a connoisseur of the east, a connoisseur of the west, i think he can do it, thank you for the conversation, unfortunately, we don't have more time, marek šceran, a polish expert and journalist, was with us, we will be back, we have another one ahead of us hour, stay with espresso, tired of heavy and bulky saws, then the strongg saw from rozpak tv is for you, with it you can easily cut trees and bushes, it is so convenient. can also be used for carpentry, it is an ideal tool for your home or garden, and the price is only from uah 1,499, a reliable battery is also included, call

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