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of the hungarian prime minister, as you can imagine, we had a correspondent tetiana vysotska, who is currently working in strasbourg, she says that european money is very effective against the statements of fico and orbán. what is your opinion on this matter? i completely agree with this statement, it is obvious that the heart of fitz and orban may be in moscow, their atms are somehow in brussels, so of course they pay attention to... financial issues, but it also seems to me that orbán was motivated not only by money, but also, you know, as they say, tough the response of the european union, because in fact orbán resorted to blackmail, it was frank blackmail and frank attempts to get some additional benefits, additional advantages for hungary, whether it was access to additional funds or advantages of a different kind, for each of his decisions, and so on european the union realized that

it is necessary to treat here as with any blackmailer, as soon as you pay once, the blackmailer's interest increases and he will want to get his money again and again, and therefore the european union decided to go the other way and fight back against this blackmail. in this case , talk intensified that hungary may be deprived of the right to vote in the euu, according to article seven of the eu treaty, and in fact, the movement in this regard is based on this procedure at the beginning. back in the 18th year, it became significantly more active in the 24th. orbán realized that he smelled fried with two reasons: firstly, it could really deprive him of any opportunities to put pressure on the european union and influence its decisions. secondly, the state is deprived of the right to vote, it also cannot preside over the eu, and hungary should have presided over the schedule in the second half of the year, and orban realized that two double slaps, deprivation of the right to vote. and also

the deprivation of the right to vote in the year of the presidency, this is too much and it is necessary to negotiate somehow. of course, i do not rule out that one way or another certain colluar agreements still exist it is possible that some statements of the european union regarding orbán will be softened, but on the other hand, one way or another, there are really many signals now that hungary will not promise, but slovakia, which in principle could protect hungary and strengthen its position in this the plan was refused veto yesterday and this was stated in the joint declaration of the prime ministers of ukraine and slovakia, shmyhal and fitz. look, i would like to ask you what you think happened in uzhgorod, right? well, in particular, it is about an attempt to bring this or that formula of understanding between ukraine and slovakia. what could fitzo, for example, demand? well, we understand that fico, like orban, is trying. with ukraine, using

our not very good position and the specifics of the legislation of the european union, so we understand that there is a so-called, i don't know, golden, golden action, yes, that is, all decisions must be made almost unanimously, and accordingly fitso also wants something trade what do you think he will trade? well, it seems to me that the first thing did not happen during the meeting in uzhhorod some breakthroughs. that is, what was announced by the prime ministers, with the exception of the fact that slovakia promised not to block 50 billion, was announced even before that, that is, orban, i'm sorry, orban still dominates, fico promised before that not a single bullet would be sent to ukraine, but the doctor said earlier that it was about irreversible aid, and they already helped as much as they could, that is, they handed over everything from their warehouses, but about the fact that not a single bullet that was produced specifically for ukraine. for which

the european union paid, this was also found was confirmed, and also fitzo always emphasized that he, including before the meeting, that he would be against. ukraine's accession to nato, and this issue was not included in the memorandum at all, but regarding the accession to the eu, neither slovakia, in general, as a state, nor fitz were against either. of course, negotiations are underway regarding the period in which it will be laid for the states bordering ukraine to adapt to its membership in the european union. of course, the question of the blockade of corridors from ukraine or the ban on grain trade. in these border countries will also be on the agenda, but this issue will already be on the agenda due to the participation of the european commission, it was also initiated the other day by bulgaria, which also has questions about whether ukraine can trade without quotas without being a member of the european union. despite the fact that we were not given

such a right, but we were given it in connection with the war, and now more and more neighboring countries are starting to raise this issue, and therefore , summing up in terms of fizo, there were no breakthroughs there, they will not trade... they will not only with us and also with the european union, because it is obvious that if ukraine suffers from the war, compensation will be requested from brussels, because we remember that their police stations are located there, and it was also quite ambiguously stated that slovakia would support transit of russian gas through the territory of ukraine after the 24th year, perhaps this is one of the wishes of the president, which he voiced, however, at the moment , it is not clear how to implement it due to reluctance. and ukraine, and russia, and eventually the european union, so that this gas goes in transit, so that in general, gas trade with russia increased, because slovakia is interested in this, hungary is interested in this, but most of the countries of the european union have agreed to the transition from russian gas to other media,

and here, no matter how the slovaks and hungarians resist, it is obvious that they prove that they will have to switch to new rails, and the same experience exists in bulgaria, bulgaria proved that the state, which was 100% dependent on gazprom, was able to get rid of this dependence in two years. mr. serhiy, look, we would like to ask you one more question about an equally, and perhaps much more important , story than the local situation with robert fitzo. in particular, it is about the signing of an unprecedented security agreement with the united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland. so? well , signals are coming from our british, not to mention allies, that the strategy of great britain. in support of ukraine will reach plus or minus hundreds of years, so in any case , we understand that this is an extremely powerful signal, on the other hand, we understand that we have corresponding statements of guarantees from the g7 and it went further for list, but poland has now confirmed that

it will also provide ukraine with certain security guarantees, if possible, please outline the outline, well, because some of our fellow citizens, they are worried about not repeating... the story with the so-called budapest memorandum, where many strong messages, but in fact, well, the obligations are different , and even more so, if it is not foreseen, well , how can we ask, if they will not perform as we would like, or if the situation does not foresee this, by and large on account, i would not overestimate these theses about 100 years, because these are, well, loud words , but we are aware that sunoku... such loud words on the eve of their own british elections, and it is far from a fact that the conservative party will win them, rather , on the contrary, the trends indicate that that the next government will be a labor government, so we will not venture so far in 100 years, but what actually exists now is that ukraine has found itself in

a situation where we have not been offered membership in the north atlantic alliance, nor have we even opened any specific negotiations about it, we are all waiting for the washington... summit, but also regarding the washington summit, there are also certain doubts and certain reservations among many of my colleagues who are directly involved in this issue, on the other hand, there is the rammstein format, the rammstein format, in which ukraine is constantly adding new and new arms supplies, in which states that are not only members of nato, but also states outside of this club, also support ukraine and agree to provide certain assistance, including military assistance, that is the statement of the g7, as we... me is the basis from which we can push for what is in ramstein to be negotiated ad hoc , that is, ukraine talks about its requests, and the states that are part of the format talk about how they can help ukraine, so this will be institutionalized to a certain extent in these

bilateral treaties, that is, now we have a number of needs and we can strategically calculate which of these needs will remain relevant in the future, and the states that sign these treaties with us are states. who declared it, that is, the g7 states and the states that joined this declaration, they can offer what exactly they can provide, in what way they can help, of course, this is not... guarantees in the sense of the fifth article of the treaty on the north atlantic alliance, this does not, does not mean that in the event that the war will continue, the same british will definitely enter it on the side of ukraine, but this means that the conditions will be much clearer, and unlike the budapest memorandum, it will not only be about assurances, i mean that word. assurances, as we have often mentioned when criticizing the budapest memorandum, and it is about

a commitment, that is, certain obligations, not an assurance, but an obligation, is more than an assurance, though less than a guarantee. thank you, serhiy gerasimchuk, deputy executive director of the analytical center: ukrainian prism was ateri espresso. now we will have a few minutes of pause, after which we will return to the discussion of the important topic of these days, which is the downing of il-76 over the belgorod region, we will have an aviation expert with whom we will actually talk. about the important details of this whole thing, so stay tuned. tired of heavy and bulky saws? then pilka strong from unpack tv is just for you. with it you can easily cut trees and bushes. it is so convenient to use it for carpentry. it is the perfect tool for your home or garden. and the price is only from uah 1,499. also a reliable battery. in the set, call now and order, there is a possibility of free delivery, check with the consultants,

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and destroy the occupants' manpower and equipment, discussed security risks and possible interaction in the ukrainian context. polish cooperation, in particular the training of our military personnel in poland, as well as exchanges with combat experience, invited general kukula to ukraine to work together in brigades and at control points, and also informed about how we counter enemy missile attacks. in this context, strengthening the capabilities of the ukrainian air defense system is extremely important. thanks to the polish partners for their support and help together to victory, i was quoting the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, general valery zaluzhny. let's go further. we are adding to our team kostyantyn kryvolap, an aviation expert, in fact, from with which we will talk about the latest events that took place in the belgorod region. welcome, mr. konstantin, to espresso. i congratulate you. so, footage from the scene, so to speak, of the plane wreck incident that happened yesterday over belgorod oblast has already appeared, and we already had viktor chumak on our airwaves, who also

analyzed certain moments and certain details for himself. we would like your opinion, whether you have already seen your own. which were made public by russian propagandists and what you see in your eyes, so can we talk about what is really on board there could have been people on the plane , it is not known for certain now, whether there are any signs that there were any missiles, i mean the wreckage of that plane, maybe you have analyzed for yourself, and actually the location itself, where the propagandists say that it it allegedly happened, well, first of all, the location, judging by this...

well, let’s start, let’s start, i guess, with the facts, the plane definitely fell, there was definitely supposed to be an exchange, but it wasn’t, right at this time lavrov in new york is telling us what we bad, and cites examples of donetsk and cites examples of these events in belgarad. further, instant reaction of the kremlin, 15 minutes, i spent there, researching this timeline. 15 minutes before that, when there were events with the a-50s, il-22s, su-34s, when they were stacked there in bundles, there was no reaction from the kremlin, it was so instantaneous, and then what as we can see in these pictures, it is the wreckage of a plane that fell from

a low height, but for some reason it was scattered there for almost 1.2 km, and this... well , this is my impression, something may have been a detonation there, first of all, secondly, if you remember the story and the pictures that were painted after the downing of mh 17 and after it fell tu-154 is there near donetsk, there, by the way, the remains of bodies, bodies, they were, well, at the top... it snowed here, everything would be very clearly visible if there were any bodies, so i am considering this version how... so propagandistic, but i am considering the version that this , well, maybe it is important, maybe it was friendly fire, the so-called, this is such a national

pastime, they shot at this plane, because at that time they were shooting at kharkiv precisely with these s-300 missiles, and it was at this time that our drones were flying over the belgorod region, and they were trying there. knock down somehow maybe in such a panicky atmosphere they destroyed this plane with friendly fire, for me this is the version that does not cause any logical contradictions, but the only thing here is the very quick reaction of the propagandists, as if they were ready for this, and so actually, mr. kostyantyn , look, and if we take the factual... side of the matter, how can we prove something with the help of certain, i don't know, screenshots from radar systems or

some other such story, as we understand it, that not only enemies are watching the ukrainian sky, but also our friends, well, accordingly, we understand that they most likely have certain information, well, in particular, we are talking about these or that, for example, commercial satellites, yes , which ones are watching. what are we doing there, well, that’s how the americans said that we collect data, because, well, it doesn’t happen quickly, it has to be recorded, deciphered and submitted, i think, but on the other hand, i don't think we 'll know very soon what really happened there, that's my impression, because it's very similar to the events when prigozhin's plane was shot down, arrived, surveyed the entire territory, removed... er , such a layer of soil that after that it is impossible to find out anything, it is impossible to prove anything, although now there are such methods of observation and

detection by signs of some objects, then it would be possible to use these systems to use, because they were once used in canadian companies and european companies and during demining, let's say there in croatia, these systems were already working. that's why i think that, of course, no one will allow us to undergo any kind of inspection, and this information will be available closed, because now it must be very difficult for the russians to get out of this story about the prisoners of war, about the fact that the ukrainians shot down, well, other things, well, and here for this , all this will be as much as possible... shut up, i think so, this this is my impression, mr. konstantin, we would also like you as an expert to explain and refute the russian lie that this is their version that our armed

forces used the patriot or airist anti-aircraft missile system at a distance of 100 km. at the same time, the russians do not explain why these mythical long-range missiles do not shoot down such a one in the same distance, the russian droughts that give nightmares to kupliansk and vovchansk, that is, we know about... the fact that we don't really have so many patriots and not so many aeristas, and in fact, this will surely lead our viewers to certain conclusions, but that's all well, in order not to be verbose and, you know , as they say, empty words, please explain why this is impossible, why this version of the russian federation is actually, well, not very believable, they said very precisely, not very believable, because in a big way it would be possible to ... put the patriot there, and well, you can put the patriot further and safer there, but i don’t think so, because you are absolutely right, there are

bigger, more substantial, more significant goals for us, that those su-34 bombers that drop cabs on our territory, along the contact line, on our troops, on our villages, and wherever they can get, and i would very much like there... to be a patriot who would have these bombers would knock down bundles, and so i think that's about it, as far as getting it aristi, well, aristi won't get it at such a distance, it's nonsense, can it get something else, for example, the s300, well, the s300 are the missiles that we still have a little bit left over there, then it's 75 km, no more. and if you look at the map, 75 km there we have such a ledge, and it would be possible to place it there, but then we stand either on one side or on

the other side. under the fire of russian artillery, so i think that i analyzed it all and threw it like that, i still think that it was shot down by the russians with their s-300, by accident, or maybe not by accident, maybe it was a played combination, well, i think that it was most likely brought down by the russians with their friendly fire, well, look, a couple of minutes ago i quoted a message from the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine valery zaluzhny, yes, who spoke with the chief of staff. of the republic of poland, wieslav kukula, and among other things, made public the following thing: strengthening the capabilities of the ukrainian air defense system is of paramount importance, i thank the polish partners for their support and help, do you think that we have prospects in general for further synchronization, somehow i do not know there of what is called the euro -atlantic air defense and ours, i think... that

there is such a possibility, especially since the poles , when they missed this missile that was flying there, then returned, they expelled there, 800 soldiers who were looking for some traces of that missile, they made a pretty tough decision after that, and when the last attack came, they put the f-16 in the air, brought the entire air defense system to the highest level of combat readiness, and in a very serious way show ... that they are ready to repel any attack there and do whatever it takes, so i think that in we will cooperate with the poles on this matter, especially since they have quite a lot of empty launchers, i am not, if i am not mistaken, they started to produce launchers for the patriot, i do not know what state this project is in, but if i if i remember correctly, it was the poles who started to produce these launchers, i would like to

discuss with you one last time. the statement of air force spokesman yuriy ignat that ukraine should receive f-16 this year, but not everything is so simple, not everything should be ready. ignat actually declared about the fact that breeders alone are not enough, but there must be adequate infrastructure and personnel for this. i would like, we have two minutes, for you to explain, in fact, what are the specifics of why, for example, the f-16s, which are already ready to be sent, cannot just be here already. i think it's a bit of a fog of war. here, well, first of all, the training of the technical staff, the preparation of airfield equipment, well, this is not the easiest thing, maybe it is even more difficult than the training of pilots, and i warned about this almost a year ago, i said that it is a very long siste, it is a very long process of preparing the technical staff, and the point here is not in the english language, not in inches and not in feet,

the point is that you... must understand and navigate very well in the new ideological system of the construction of the functioning of all this of a complex complex, which is called the f-16 aircraft , this is a very serious transition, it is almost from zero , you start for some reason there, well, not a multiplication table, but you start almost from the beginning, the second - i think it has now become clear that... . those modifications that may be transmitted to us, they still need to be modernized, and final decisions may not be made on this matter yet, but this is probably already being discussed, and now there will probably be some delay due to the fact that a certain number of aircraft that will be transferred to us they will be modernized to the point where they are

competitive, let's say the su-30. thank you, we can finish already, kostyantyn kryvolap, the aviation expert was in touch with us, well, it's already time for the news, 4:00 p.m., so we pass the floor to anna eva melnyk, who, together with the news editor, has already made it prepare relevant and fresh information. we pass on the word, well, actually, tell us what this issue will be about. greetings colleagues, ukraine plans to build four more nuclear reactors by the end of this year, details of this news and others will follow.