has anything changed between then and now, are there any updates possible? there are no updates , the only thing is, uh, i always emphasize that look, the russian federation uses every opportunity to discredit ukraine and to discredit the military aid that we receive from our international partners, the same is the case here, you know how just then it happened and they started to receive... information, how the russian federation disseminates information, what actually happened, that there was a downing of a plane, right there by missiles that were provided by our international partners, i immediately had this feeling that they had the same thing when they committed a terrorist act, the volenivites, actually killing our prisoners of war, a violation of international humanitarian law, the same thing here. information campaign against

our state, so it is safe to say that as of now we have some confirmed materials, some evidence, there is no for one simple reason, that in addition to the analysis of photos and videos that we have in use, which are again thrown at the russian by the federation, there are no other mechanisms for confirming or refuting information, so always. ukraine consistently takes one position , a legal position, we demand an international commission, access to the place where this plane fell, access to all materials and an independent international investigation, only after that we can affirmatively say something, but as of now, i assume that there are all signs that it was pre -planned there by the russian federation. for, as i

said, to discredit ukraine. mr. dmytro, did you demand through direct contacts from of her colleague tetyana moskalkova, authorized by the president of the russian federation for human rights, to provide possible evidence of whether there were prisoners of war on board and what her reaction to this event was, in fact , her function is to protect human rights in various directions. it is so, and including the rights of prisoners of war of the armed forces of ukraine, which are under protection according to the geneva convention, should be under the protection of all institutions that protect human rights on the territory of russia federations, including international institutions, i mean primarily the international committee of the red cross. i did not see any public or non-public reaction on her part, i officially appealed to the international committee of the red cross, because again, according to article 46 of the geneva convention, the responsibility for... the life and

health of prisoners of war lies with the country, which holds them captive, so in this case the russian federation bears full responsibility for the life and health of ukrainian prisoners of war, until the exchange of prisoners of war will be carried out, the russian federation is obliged to do everything to ensure that they remain there alive, healthy and... it is a legal point that when prisoners of war are being transported, moved, changed, there and in places of detention, they are obliged it is necessary to inform the international committee of the red cross. that is why i applied officially, i want to receive an official answer from the icrc that the russian federation reported that they will transport ukrainian military personnel there in one way or another. captured in this

day, i am 99% convinced that they did not inform anyone, because they never do it, as well as violate other norms of the geneva convention, well, i just have to note for balance that the russian side says that it informed the ukrainian side about how this exchange will take place and what it will take place and actually about the route, because the last name that was on the list, let's stop at that, the last name that was spread by simonyan herself, this is not the name spread by the official russian side. home during previous exchanges, but the rest of these 65 surnames, perhaps you have already managed to verify them, these people really exist, they are really ukrainian soldiers who were taken prisoner by the russian side, i don't know if these surnames are invented, but they are considered missing, what is known? look, again... when i

comment on something, then, unfortunately, very often i see that journalists interpret my words in different ways, i always emphasize that... these are the so-called materials that are published from on the part of the russian federation, in my opinion, these are elements of this special operation against ukraine, no official lists , you very correctly emphasized this, we do not have any official lists, we cannot assume or not assume that this is the official position of the russian federation, because not even an official body of... er country terrorist did not make public any information, did not provide any name, and these lists were specially thrown there, in my opinion, through the information channels of propagandists of the russian federation, therefore

, legally, i say that we do not have any lists. regarding and analysis of all materials that distributed by the russian federation, we established that... there are a lot of inconsistencies and inaccuracies, that's all, but you can't talk specifically now about whether these people are in captivity or not, because these are not official lists. that's right, as someone who holds an official position in ukraine, the verkhovna rada's human rights representative, i can't officially say anything until i officially receive some lists, so as of now, all i can say is that... non-coincidences, yes, we record them, we make assumptions about them, but this is not official assumptions and exclusively on the basis of those materials that are specially distributed by the russian federation, we understand that they are doing this on purpose, so we, as i already

said, we will be ready to do this, but only when we officially, we receive all information from the russian side through official channels. federation, and the most important thing is that we will receive it through international partners and international experts, who should be involved in a transparent investigation of this case of the crash of this plane. mr. dmitry, again from unofficial sources the information is given, but i would like to clarify, the russian telegram channel mez, which is linked and actually considered one of those who have access to the russian security forces, wrote about the fact that... actually, if we talk about the bodies of the ukrainian military, if they were really on this board and they are, then they can allow them to be taken by the ukrainian side only if the ukrainian side itself will transport these bodies, in fact, and if the ukrainian side will provide dna for the identification of these bodies, were any

appeals from the russian side official about what they want from ukraine for example dna certain? through the channels of communication that i have, no appeals were found... they again followed the example of what happened after olenivka, then i officially immediately appealed that we ask to hand over the bodies of our fallen prisoners of war to us, whom the russian federation killed volenivtsi, then a long process of some kind of negotiations continued there, but in the end the bodies were returned there, and we carried out the dna procedure already on... the territory of ukraine, which the russian federation now invented, something new, again, these are elements of the propaganda work of the russian federation, the federation, directed once again against our state, we must not forget who we are fighting with, this is the country

that treacherously attacked us there, treacherously conducts negotiations, and as of now, once again yes, i'm repeating myself. but that's why this international toolkit is important for us, confirmation and verification of all evidence, including, perhaps, it will be an international toolkit for confirming the dna of our heroes. i have two more questions for you: if to assume that there were no prisoners of war on board, but their names were not officially released by the russian side into the public domain, what about these people, if they really are? in russian captivity may now be in danger, how great is the risk of a threat to the lives of ukrainian prisoners of war, the names of which have been made public, if they match? i will say that, unfortunately, due to the fact that the russian federation does not allow

representatives of the international committee of the red christ, we don't have an international or any other... toolkit to check conditions of detention, protect other rights of our prisoners of war, unfortunately, these are our realities that we have to... work in, so again , i'm very i hope that even this case, when the russians again want to use the element of our prisoners of war against our state, in which case, will force the icrc to change its approach to the territory of the russian federation, to demand full access, disclosure of all information, communication with our military bases. or otherwise , the launch of some other tools that

will still allow protecting the rights of our prisoners of war. and to conclude briefly, the russian media quoted the words of the chairman of the defense committee of the state duma of russia that the exchanges will probably be put on hold. what do you know about this, do you know anything, has there already been any communication with the russian side on this issue, and is it really not possible to talk about the exchange process at the moment? i will say this, again, i do not want to comment on the words of a person who is not at all is related to the process of exchange of prisoners of war, every day the entire large team of the coordination headquarters for the treatment of prisoners of war, as well as the president of ukraine, are engaged in ensuring that the exchange processes continue, so that all citizens of ukraine who are illegally detained by the russian federation, and this and ukrainian children. and civilian hostages to return home is the number one task that

we deal with every day, i don't want to assume that pauses or no pauses, i have publicly commented that in my opinion the russian federation is there deliberately right, i believe, i believe that we will complete the task and all our heroes and heroines will return home, glory to lubinets, glory to the heroes of the verkhovna rada. from human rights , the guest of our broadcast, we talked about the latest update in the case of the il-76 plane. thank you. well, the ukrainian government is preparing the visit of hungarian prime minister viktor orban to ukraine. ukrainian deputy prime minister for european integration olga stefanishyna informed rfe/rl about this. in order to organize this visit, according to these data , a preliminary meeting of the hungarian minister of foreign affairs petra siyart, with his ukrainian colleague dmytro koleba, as well as the manager. andriy yaermak of the office of the president of ukraine. they should hold negotiations already on monday in uzhhorod.

according to the same data and according to the words of stefanyshyn, the ukrainian side has already done a lot to get closer to hungary on controversial issues, in particular, regarding the legislation on national minorities. it should also be said that ukraine is negotiating with hungary before its presidency of the european union this year, so that the government orbana did not block the decisions of the european union concerning ukraine. currently , it is not known whether he was last in ukraine in 2010, in that country that we hardly remember. it is important for us that he came, therefore, first of all , the focus is on the bilateral agenda, it is fundamental for me to see prime minister orban in kyiv, because he plays a difficult role in making historic decisions for ukraine, and it is important for me that this person saw the country as ukrainians see it. and... will the hungarian prime minister come? to kyiv, whether president zelensky will still fly to budapest,

ms. stefanyshyn did not give a direct answer to this question. meanwhile , slovak prime minister robert fico changed his mind after his visit to ukraine and meeting with his ukrainian colleague dmytro denys shmyhal. fitzo agreed not to block aid to ukraine in the amount of 50 billion from the european union. he also reminded that slovakia is not against inviting ukraine to the eu, and respects and supports its territorial integrity, albeit for a few days. earlier in on the air of the slovak public broadcaster , he said that ukraine should cede territories to russia in order to end the war, however , the british publication fentional times draws attention to the fact that the rhetoric of the slovak prime minister is radically different at home in slovakia and on his trips abroad, and the rhetoric of himself is also criticized viktor orban, in particular, he stated that ukraine would not be able to win the war, that orban would not support its accession to the european union and nato, and orban blocked aid to kyiv, these are all those issues. how important were well, orban is one of those who did not support sanctions against russia.

our dmytro tuzhanskyi, director of the institute of central european strategy, joins the broadcast at this moment. my greetings to you. good day. thank you for joining. orban's visit to ukraine is being prepared. fitso was already in ukraine, although not in kyiv, but in uzhhorod. orban and fico are now friends of ukraine. why is this warming in relations, or is it still too early to talk about it at the moment? it is early, they are not friends, neighbors yet, and these are member countries of two alliances, where we are very much we want to join, so... you know , some like it, some don't like it, orban, fitso, or their teams, peter sijarto, for example, and the one with whom there will be a meeting on january 29, these are the people with whom we will have to negotiate, eh -uh, and it will be very difficult, uh, they are similar , by the way, in style, such european populists, and you said that robert fizo changed his mind there, or

there is warming, in fact, no one changed his mind, and warming is it's relative, it's tactical, you have to... understand that these are politicians who, you know, are such masters of this double language, when they can almost say mutually contradictory things in more than one sentence paragraph, say simply contradictory things, and also say there with an interval of a day or two, er, mutually, again contradictory things for the internal audience, for there one ally, for another ally, for brussels in general, and these maneuvers are constant, you know, such a dilemma... or a trap of populists, european populists, so when robert fizo is there 5 days and a day before his visit to ukraine , he talked about ukraine completely under control by the united states, that ukraine will not be able to win this war, that he will block nato there, ukraine's entry into nato, well, in ukraine he didn't talk about it at all and

, you know, he looked very much like, i don't know, a nice good guy, let's say that , that is why it is necessary to look from the specific situation, from the specific interests of these populists, today it is fundamental for robert fico, and this is the first reason: not to quarrel with brussels , not to quarrel with the european union, not to quarrel with the leaders of the european union, to find additional money for slovakia, and not to lose it them, in particular through a possible freeze of european funds for slovakia and look where robert fico went immediately after ukraine, it was germany and... a meeting with mr. scholz, it is unlikely that he would have succeeded if he, you know, insisted on what he was talking about there spoke in those saturday interviews. a similar situation with viktor orbán, we remember the summit when he went out to drink coffee, but we understand that you know that, well, it's only the tip of the iceberg, that is, there were many conversations behind closed doors, and it seems that we see their

consequences, i'm not saying , which is, you know, again that this is warming, that this is such a major change. of the hungarian prime minister, let's see, by the way, with this meeting, i would not overestimate the expectations that immediately after the meeting in uzhhorod between peter sigert, dmytro kulebo and andriy yermak, this meeting of leaders will take place, if it happens, it will be great , it will be , to be honest, an incredible breakthrough in bilateral relations and some such magic of diplomacy, but to be honest, i rarely believe in this magic, because it rarely happens in reality, here... you have, but if orban's visit is that will take place to ukraine, for example , the actual working out of which is currently underway , as reported in the ukrainian government, what could be the main issue on the agenda, what would be the most basic thing, for example, for the ukrainian side to discuss and for orban to present his vision and your position, well, look, the menu there is healthy

, that is, there is not, we will not have enough time, because there mrs. olya stefanichna spoke about 2010. i looked here, it seems that the last time viktor orban was in ukraine was the 14th or 15th year. that is, this decade, if you choose any intergovernmental commissions there, they have also not sat there for decades, there were only working groups, relations are stagnant, you know, they have hit the bottom several times, as you can say now in recent years, that is , we have survived to you understood, we have blacklists there , that is, there are people of the nangrat on both sides, well, i don’t know according to the procedure there, whether that time turned out like that, but... in the 20th year, there was interference in the elections by hungarian politicians there, well in general, there is a chain reaction, and there are important people, i am not saying persons here nangrat may be there, i don't know, some smugglers, for example, they obviously should not be left out, yes, we have a problem with passports, and with the passporting of the hungarian community, i remember a video was playing, when it was

in bergivsk, it's an old video, and navorsk citizenship took this oath, and there are actually very active things, the construction of checkpoints, there are at least three checkpoints, they are in principle ready for restart, and this seriously strengthened the export potential of ukraine, especially when there, you know, periodic that's all blockades on the polish border, by the way, i would like to draw attention to the fact that in our country, hungary is a country that some people almost scare children with, but it is the only country that did not block its own border when there were blockades, that is, there were protests, but the border was not blocked, they constantly carried out. this prescription, dmytro, then a logical question arises here, i.e. the ukrainian side, it did not bet on relations with hungary itself over the years and did not develop the necessary steps in order to resolve some sharp corners. in fact, there were several attempts , i.e., for example, pavlo klimkin made great efforts, just him and peter sirit,

i don't know how many times they met, there was also mediation from the united states, such a west mitchell, yes, this was an important person before there in 2019, in 2018, to be more precise, because he then resigned from his post, he was such a moderator, and there are separate vetoes, which hungary began to apply to the ukraine-nato commission precisely in 2017. westmey helped to unblock, actually, and because of this veto, viktor orban got into the white house, that is, a big game like this was actually going on there, and ukraine was a hostage, but ukraine is still a hostage in this hungarian foreign policy. dmytro kuleba, as soon as he got into the government during the time of volodymyr zelenskyi, hungary was in his portfolio, that is, he was still the deputy prime minister, and there were attempts, there were attempts, no, there were many attempts, and you know , i don't want to shift responsibility here. honestly, according to my observations, it is precisely the hungarian side in these important moments when there was a chance to restart these relations, yes , to pragmatize them, to normalize them, they gave

the back, why, because for viktor orban , ukraine is an incomprehensible country, it is more profitable for him to have it as a hostage, as such, you know, a map, so that, well, it sounds like instrumentally, that is, but this, he sees how obsessed putin is with ukraine, and you can speculate on this. sees how important ukraine is for brussels and the united states, and this can be traded, we have literally 40 seconds until the end, i want to ask you one more question, the government of hungary published the results of the survey, according to which 98% of respondents allegedly support the anti-ukrainian position of the hungarian government, in particular regarding the war in ukraine, do you believe this figure? look, i'll cheer up the viewers a little, i voted on that poll myself, it's very funny, that is, it 's a poll, you can vote online, there are degrees of protection, a key degree. you have to, relatively speaking, lie, i lied , i confess, i ticked the box that i have hungarian citizenship, but i wrote down a ukrainian phone number at the time, there are also all kinds of data fake, just random, and

it accepted everything, registered me, so look, you have to take it easy, this is a very funny campaign, it’s just a waste, i don’t know the funds of hungarian taxpayers, but it’s like this tool, which viktor orban or i i don't know who will try to play, you know, maybe i shouldn't make fun of them publicly, i mean. a diplomat, because it is a little incorrect, but you know, not publicly, if, i would have elbowed you there, you know, said, guys, come on, like, for your position, for your analysis, dmytro tuzhanskyi, this is the director of the institute of central european strategy, our broadcast, and one more topic to which we want to return, next week on wednesday, the un international court of justice will issue a decision in the lawsuit of ukraine against russia, in which kyiv accuses moscow of funding terrorism, more. we will ask our colleague olena abramovych for details in this case, she is in direct contact with the hague, where today the un international court of justice will make another decision accusing israel of genocide in

the gas sector. elena, my congratulations, what expectations from the decision on ukraine and whether the case regarding israel may have any consequences for ukrainian cases as well. good morning. well, as for the decision in the ukrainian lawsuit, i will first briefly recall its essence, this is a lawsuit from january 2017, that is. refers to the period before the full-scale invasion of russia, ukraine then accused russia of financing the separatists in donbas and the weapons used, for example, in the summer of 2014 , a passenger plane of malaysian airlines was shot down, which was performing flight mh-17, and then i will remind all 298 passengers and crew members were killed, mostly they were citizens of the netherlands, and the world at that time looked at russia's hybrid war in the donbass mainly as a ukrainian internal conflict, and ukraine was then leading an anti- contact operation and insisted on international consideration of this case, insisted in court that russia violated the international convention on the fight against the financing

of terrorism, and also then it was about the violation of the rights of the crimean tatars in occupied crimea, and seven years have now passed since the time of the lawsuit and now finally a trial after a long time red tape, when russia there insisted that this court does not have jurisdiction to consider this case and so on, now this court has to make its own decision on the merits, that is, to determine the offender. there is an international convention or not, and the next stage after that will be the assignment of reparations and compensations. does the court have any leverage at all, can it force russia to actually comply with its decision? although this court is called the world court and the most powerful court in the world, because it is actually the highest court of the united nations, to which includes almost 200 states, but it is not a criminal court, that is, roughly speaking, it does not take anyone to prison. does not confiscate property and the un court actually considers interstate disputes and issues conclusions that are considered legally binding, and then certain sanctions can

be imposed by the un security council, but at the same time russia... has already demonstrated that it can ignore the decision of such a court and, for example, in the first days of the full-scale invasion, ukraine filed another claim with the hague, which then accused russia of abusing the convention on the prevention of genocide, and the court then urgently ruled that in march 22nd, the preventive measure told russia to immediately suspend all its military operations until the case was considered on its merits, but russia then said that it was impossible, and actually, but today, why am i here, because the court... the un should also impose a preventive measure in another case that concerns israel, and the results of which may have an echo for ukraine as well, and the fact is that the republic of south africa filed a lawsuit in this court here to the hague, accusing israel of committing genocide in the gaza strip, the israeli authorities called the lawsuit absurd, they immediately said that if the court issues a demand to suspend hostilities as a preventive measure , then israel will not comply with this

decision, because it would mean losing the right itself. for self-defense and i will remind here that israel is currently carrying out military operations in the gas sector in response to an attack by hamas, which is recognized as a terrorist group by the united states and the european union, and i will remind that hamas attacked israeli cities on october 7, killing more than a thousand residents and capturing about 260 hostages, israel then began the operation to release the hostages and destroy hamas, and in fact, this is the goal of this war, but as a result of it, thousands of peaceful residents of gaza are also suffering, and this... a lawsuit against israel may put ukraine in an uncomfortable position to a certain extent, because on the one hand on the one hand, kyiv now supports israel, just as the usa does, and on the other hand, if the court does order israel to cease hostilities, and it ignores this decision, and russia will not be ignored and will continue to use the argument about a selective approach to international law. thank you olena very much for such a detailed analysis, olena abramovich, our european correspondent from the hague. and then

the column news in a minute from katya necretia. greetings, here is a brief summary of the interesting news that is being discussed on the network: lina borozdina, an ethnic ukrainian native of odesa and now a us citizen , will go on a suborbital flight aboard the galaactig 06 mission. it will happen today, january 26, she will be one of the four space tourists commercial space flight of the company virgin galactic. the flight will last one and a half hours, and tourists will be able to feel weightlessness for a few minutes before returning back to earth. it is not known how much such a trip costs. last year, similar tickets were sold for $450,000. instagram blogger and businesswoman tanya prinkovich apologized for her boyfriend's vacation in the maldives. she wrote that she did not think about the consequences of their actions. the family seems to admit that it made a mistake. the blogger did not hide her vacation, she posted photos on instagram together with her children. there was no man in these photos. however, the photo with him and printkovich is on maldives was filmed and posted online by eyewitnesses.

after that, it flared up. scandal, because andriy gonkovsky went abroad thanks to the permission to leave for volunteers. ukrainian tennis player dayana yastremska lost to chinese tin wenzhen and was eliminated in the semi-finals of the australian open 2024. this became known from the broadcast of the match, according to public information. one step before the final, yastremska lost in two sets. the match lasted 1:37 minutes. 23-year-old yastremska was one of the two ukrainian women who reached the 1/4 final stage. the second was marta kostyuk, who defeated the russian maria timofeev the participation of two tennis players from ukraine in the quarterfinals of the tournament is considered a national record. that's all for today, more news, search our social networks in telegram, facebook, instagram and tiktok. well , it remains for me to support katya and also encourage you to subscribe to our social networks, as well as youtube, there is a lot of important and

useful information there. we will meet with you already . congratulations to chas news on espresso. kateryna shiropoyas works in the studio. the number of people killed as a result of the russian missile has increased attack on kharkiv on january 23. a 61-year-old woman died in the hospital at night, the kharkiv regional prosecutor's office reported. let me remind you that on tuesday morning, the russians fired g-32 iskander and s-300 missiles at kharkiv. kissed