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current exercises conducted by nato, which they testify to the fact that due to the fact that the minimum participant invited there is the united states of america, and the united states of america is today 90% of the security implemented by nato. the current exercises show that there are 90% of the chosen model and legend, which are actually the countries and states of europe, and... literally a few destroyers of the united states of america, which of the almost 90,000 personnel participating in this exercise, are present on them, that is, it is as if a shot on the model that can be made after candidate trump's statements that we can withdraw from nato, although this is not an answer and it is obvious that it will not happen, but it is clear that preparations for this are underway, now there is another one.
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it is necessary to understand that in matters of security, the bilateral relations that ukraine will conclude with nato countries, they must be implemented in the form of concrete steps, that is, conditionally speaking, training is going on, as conditionally speaking, and not conditionally, realistically speaking, nato will interact with the countries , who wish to join nato, well, in particular, such as ukraine, further... how will they interact with those that have already formed as a separate defense union, well, such as, for example, there is a bite, the indo-pacific bloc, which exists separately today, although in individual countries it overlaps, and from here it is obvious that one cannot do without formalizing the role played by the contact group, this really pisses me off to the extreme, because i went through... a contact group in minsk, when i
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hear that rammstein is called a contact group by the group on providing assistance to the defense of ukraine, well, as the ukrainian classics say, to contact does not mean to decide, you see, and all this suggests that today those who outline and those who sit on the buttons of european security and regional, european and continental, in general and. .. uh, global, they don’t quite understand clearly, but how all this will interact with each other, how it will cooperate, because holding additional meetings, even online meetings, does not solve the issue of ensuring the urgent supply of troops with ammunition, armored vehicles, maintenance of all this and so on. therefore, i can say that for now, if we take the fact that... the path that
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ukraine began to follow, signing bilateral guarantees on security, and the transition to regional security is not even visible, moreover, i do not see that understood this problem, but when you listen to people like orban or people like fico, they, what do they think, that we will stay here under nato, and you try your best there , but... they think so, i will remind them about a trip from suvorov to the alps, it is not clear what he is i did it there, but keep in mind that the monuments to sugorov in russia are standing even now, no one has taken them anywhere, so where the boot of a russian soldier can fit is known only to the moscow führer, and this must be understood very well. thank you very much, mr. ambassador, for this extremely important discussion on the air of the tv channel, i want to remind our tv viewers that now roman bezsmertny, an iconic politician, was working for them. and a diplomat. laughter, physical
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myroslav will now work in the spresso studio. public figure, historian, journalist, deputy of the polish diet of the second and third term. glory to ukraine, mr. myroslav, i congratulate you. i congratulate you as a hero. donald tusk and president zelensky, denys shmyhal, met, talked, we understand, in fact, it is about a complete reset not only of certain tactical points, but about new the vision of what is called the economic-social-security policy of nato's eastern flank. this story is much more than... external polish-ukrainian relations, so the meeting took place also symbolically that donald tusk , the head of the polish government, made his first foreign visit to kyiv. poland and ukraine are starting to work on guarantees , the so-called agreement on security guarantors, that is
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, poland joined the declaration of the g7 group from vilnius from the nato summit last year, and the development of a bilateral document begins like the document signed by great britain. and ukraine during the visit of prime minister sunak in january this year, this is an extremely important fact, because the government of the previous polish government, the government of morowiecki, did not join this declaration, which was very significant and a very alarming signal that poland withdraws from support for ukraine. today, this page has already been turned and poland is returning to... supporting ukraine in the military aspect, which was confirmed by president zelensky, who said that a package of military aid from poland is being prepared. the second result of tusk's visit to kyiv is that a well-known person, a well-known politician, pavlo koval, has been appointed as
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the representative of the polish government for the reconstruction of ukraine. well, it means that there is a person, he is extremely fond of ukraine, a guest at espresso for many years, now the chairman of the foreign affairs committee of the seimas, that is, a prominent figure in polish politics, and that person is responsible for this, i i think he has ambitions and a desire to develop just this cooperation so that this does not happen declarations, but filled with real content, and now with regard to the already concrete situation with agriculture, with transportation and so on, then prime minister shmygar announced at... work, and he said that a draft law is being developed in the ukrainian parliament on equalization regarding the rights of polish and ukrainian carriers, i think that this is not a problem, poland is invited to poland,
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polish companies are invited to the construction of the autobahn from kraków to rivne, that is, everything that actually concerns the residents of lviv and of the western region, yes. the bank will be built to rivne, then it will greatly simplify all transportation and so on, this is the second aspect, and the third is related to the fact that the work is starting, or in fact the work is already continuing to ensure that in the matter of agricultural products, the export of ukrainian agricultural products to poland were not this stumbling block in bilateral, bilateral relations, from what i observe, poland is approaching the adoption of the romanian model, that is... there is an export of agricultural products, but in some part of the grain, for example, corn or something, when there is too much import to poland, then the license system for ukrainian exporters is included, that is, then you have to go to the ministry and get such a relevant license, i
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think that this is ultimately a clear, realistic package of cooperation in those very such specific cases that, well... for the past six months, or more than six months, they have poisoned our lives, so nothing felt like trouble, so in the relationship between president zelenskyi and president andrzej duda, then they started what? clouds thicken, well, accordingly we've had some extremely iconic scandals, well we understand that the geopolitical page has been turned, so that's largely history, and the second point is, can something like this happen again now? well, let's talk like this, what happened? well, actually, calling a spade a spade, the agricultural embargo on four types of agricultural products, it used to be on all types, plus the border blockade meant that poland entered. war with ukraine, we call it our own, there was a state
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of trade war between ukraine and poland, we it was not called that so as not to thicken the colors and colors and so on, so as not to inflate the atmosphere, in fact it was a trade war, only a trade war is simply unique, because it causes losses to ukraine, of course, this is how transportation is blocked. cannot enter ukraine with humanitarian aid, with the normal commercial component of ukraine's military aid there, but this caused damage to the polish economy. poland earns in general, when we take into account the trade between ukraine and poland, poland earns from ukraine, because exports more than it imports from ukraine. for two years, war years, and glory. thank god that donald tusk, as prime minister, understood this situation, and that
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he used all his leverage to stop this situation. this is true when talking about the global aspect, but we have turned that page. i believe that there will be no return to this state under the current government, the biggest guarantee of this state is donald tusk himself, himself, himself. it feels like this is the current year. well, he can pass under the sign of two donalds, this is donald tusk, without doubt, yes, when we talk about eastern european politics, and donald trump, when we talk about continental security politics in general. i am very grateful to you, anton, for saying that the coming to power of donald tusk in poland means reformatting and the place of poland in the european union and in the security dimension, because that is how it is. donald tusk is not only the polish prime minister. but one of the more iconic political figures in europe, and so it will in fact be, negotiations are now underway to
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restore the so-called weimar of the triangle, it is france, germany and poland, and the role of poland under prime minister tusk will be much greater in europe than it was under yaroslav kaczynski or andrzej duda, this is clear, and relations between ukraine and poland in this perspective and when to look at them , well , they are very important, after all, ukrainians don’t need it... i explained, now regarding donald trump, i carefully follow those primaries and what is happening, well, everyone has already written off our lady nikihelev, in fact, she is already in a losing position and so on, i would think that this politics, it is a complicated thing, the election campaign is the same, qualities, leadership qualities and results are very important, even the primaries in new hampshire were not so bad 55 to 44, this... for trump's favor means that niki khali does not stand on such
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losing positions for me, but other wiser people , who are more familiar with the american situation, say that it is lost, well, let's say lost, but all the observers who say that trump is not too happy with the course of the primaries, and in view of the fact that among republican voters a third say that they will not vote for him under any circumstances, and there is such a category who... who are undecided, that is, who are watching, who and yes, they have a very large negative electorate or a negative perception of trump, and it is getting stronger, that is, when we calculate the overall national level, when trump will have a duel between the president and biden, the results can be very different, although today trump leads with a margin of 3-4% over biden, so to speak. everyone says, god, biden can't win anyway further yes, yes, the situation does not sound like that.
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now the primaries show the republic, there is no such great dominance of trump among the republican voters. yes, he has enormous dominance in the republican party, but not among republican voters. so i understand. well, but in any case, trump is back in big politics, and trump will shape the political agenda in the united states, well , right before the election, so we don't know what the end of the election campaign will be like in the united states, but the influence of trump already is he began to distribute signals, give signals, and no one. can't decipher them correctly, well, because trump is trying to keep his geopolitical mystery, maybe he's just lying, maybe he's just making promises, but in any case, he demonstrates that he might have one or another plan, but taking into account his the previous political credit history in europe remembered very well his threats, so to speak, to nullify the influence of the united states on the european continent. europeans
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, pay more for your security. europeans began to think in global categories. global categories consist in the fact that they understand that america is objectively determined to confront china, china's forces are weakening, their economy is weakening, but the americans need, is there this detached kimirchin or what is his name there, kimchin-yin, kimchin, so be it kimchin-yin, and he and the americans have to deal with the challenges in asia, india is not easy, india... the so-called nationalist agenda, god knows if it will not occur to the indians that they also have some kind of empire there once for 300 years therefore they will return pakistan, well, what are they trying to do from time to time, that is, the americans have something to do, so russia is a threat, all europeans recognize at that moment that russia is an existential threat to europe, and in
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europe it is necessary to prepare for confrontation with and don't rely so heavily on american, american aid, and when we talk about trump, i would always emphasize for now 11 months before the election, who is the president of the united states, right, joe biden, you have to ask joe biden, understand all the schedules and so on, but trump has not yet become the president, the president of the united states states has joe biden, and we need to talk about what joe biden will do for ukraine and what he has committed to in relation to it. to europe , and here an extremely important role, and it is also american observers, journalists, experts, everyone is talking, the activation of great britain and the absolutely united position of the conservatives, and the party, and the labor party, the labor party, they will also have higher elections in autumn, regarding security issues, the position is the same, to support
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ukraine, strengthen nato and strengthen the european component. performance of the british of the minister of defense, who interpreted the security guarantees of great britain for ukraine, is simply phenomenal, there was a phrase that i just sat down: great britain said: "our alliance with ukraine is for 100 years, we will not leave ukraine, russia, you forget that that great britain will leave ukraine, this is such a phrase, it is extremely expensive, great britain has always been and how many f-16s are behind this phrase, i understand what you are talking about, myroslav, but on the other hand, we remember that poland republic, second the commonwealth, had extremely powerful treaties with france and with the united kingdom, when we talk about 1939, yes, but aid was given, but there was
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a so-called strange war, and accordingly now we understand that our... my readiness, but here the question is, so to speak, in small things, well, if we are talking about aviation, for example, it is not a small thing, of course, i am being ironic, well, but the decision is still on the table, no, the decision is today, colonel ignats said that our partners are ready to hand over to ukraine today f-16s are standing, nothing has changed since our conversation that the dutch, danish and norwegian f-16s are ready for transfer. to give to ukraine, but we do not have the infrastructure to receive and serve them, it is precisely with the leopards, the leopards were handed over, and the former minister of defense of germany, boris pistorius , said that in 2024 germany would train 10,000 ukrainian soldiers and hand over 80 leopards, the problem there is in that, but they are going
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to be repaired and where are the spare parts, it may seem absurd, but in fact europe after... the end of the cold war disarmed and the military-industrial complex also dripped a little for export , they give something there, in return for their own forces and to help in this way during such a terrible war, which is the russian one, which is the russian-ukrainian war, they are not ready, they are slowly getting pumped up, but it is being pumped up, that is, there is something i am leading to, the situation in the war in 2024 will move to a completely different level, this is... a completely different level, which, and the construction, will be built a system of alliances, and then political decisions, and military, then decisions, economic decisions, ultimately will. such that ukraine will really be provided with all the means for ukraine to win, defeat russia for this and the disposition, secondly, for ukraine to strengthen its own forces so much that
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it can last for 100 years, how can someone in russia think of attacking ukraine and and whether any other other countries, that is, a completely different configuration is emerging, whether trump will be president or trump will not be president. at that moment it starts to have absolutely less importance, because the system works, states work and their armed forces work and the military-industrial complex, but europe can now go through a series of elections, so almost half of the countries of the european union will go through national elections this year, well, accordingly, we see how the right-wing populists are warming up, but at one time, for example, slovakia pleasantly surprised us, so when she chose the fizo party, well, we can see. certain miracles of such a plan in quotation marks are of course unpleasant there, i don’t know in the netherlands, in belgium and what and who makes decisions elected politicians or i don’t know these or other elites no no no
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the elites are not elected, elected governments, of course , make the decisions of the coalition of politicians and so on, on the other hand, we do not forget that during war and confrontation, as the german defense minister said, we must be ready for this. against germany, russia will go to war by 2020, the 30th year, this is just a copernican, copernican revolution in the way of thinking of germans in general for their security, i am not talking about sweden and the norwegians, who said that we should be ready in 2-3 years, then russia will go to war against us, the finns are not discussed at all, yes, that is we have a radically different situation , it's a curtain... but the situation is different, and here the roles are already defined, just like in germany, well, all the alternatives, that is, we forget that
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there will be elections, well, next year, there should be, it seems, the next parliamentary elections are due to take place in 2018, who is leading in public opinion polls, the christian democrats, who left the era of angela merkel, and now they are generally pushing chancellor scholz, that he... does not support ukraine enough, then the alternatives are firdolsh there for the first time in about six months or so there is a lot to lose support, the people took to the streets of their cities and everyone was shocked, led by president steinmeier, and said, there are so many of us, and we stand against this, the threat of alternatives, moreover, now, they call it a bureau or office of the protection of the constitution. provides documentation to ban the activity of alternatives to firdoch, because it is a threat to the constitutional order, a threat by constitutional power can ban the activity of this
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party, did you see anton six months ago such processes, no, and here we return to poland, poland and elections, parliamentary elections on october 15 inspired europe, democrats know how to win, societies know how to mobilize for protection, ukrainians are not like that. mobilized and you simply caused the whole world to wonder that ukraine is david fighting with that goliath and where does it get its strength and sacrifice, heroism and everything, courage, everything that you can say positively, but there is also a non-military way, that is, which shows poland, that democrats can win, and pro-european and democratic societies can win, and look, going back to security agreements, security... guarantees, i understand that there is a bilateral, bilateral level, yes, there is a level of what is called security guarantees from the g7 side, well, let's take, for example, the british case, how
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serious will they be ready, here, well, for 100 years it sounds very good, but how deeply will great britain be ready to enter into what is called the protection of ukrainian national interests, given its colossal, although not as powerful, resource as that of the united states, and it relates to maybe... well you mentioned the year 39 yes, and the security guarantees of great britain regarding poland, the strange war and so on, it would be necessary to consider whether they were ready, they were not ready, and what role was played in the collapse of these guarantees, that these guarantees did not work, pactrin trope molotov, do not forget that the molotov ribbentrop pact, that is, the hitler-stalin pact, was directly directed against. the security guarantees of great britain and france, which were given to him, hitler would not have gone to war with poland against poland, if he had in
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the rear. the danger that the second will be opened front, if it had not been, there would not have been a worker of the christian red army in the aggression on september 17, 1939, this is clear, and before that there was the molotov trop pactrin and the division of spheres of influence and so on, which the british and americans already knew on the second day because the agents, well , the agents, it might be said that way, the humanity of the amt and in the embassy of the third reich in moscow were immediately handed over. and what those guarantees will be from great britain, what do they mean, so the minister of defense is speaking, among other things, about the guarantee for ukraine and about 100 years of the union. from
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british-ukrainian, said that they will at that moment strengthen their nuclear forces, and there he said about the construction of about 12 or so underwater atomic ships, this is translated into direct language, which counts in the security sphere, not only the american one, huh, but also the british component is growing, as in yeast, that is clear, and the second thing is that i will make such a remark, the former ambassador of ukraine to great britain, mr. prysta. a very good ambassador in the end, a qualified diplomat, said when asked if you could imagine that british soldiers could come to ukraine and to protect ukraine, he said yes, i imagine such a situation. well, let's end on this optimistic note, myroslav, thank you very much for this extremely interesting and productive conversation, i want to remind our viewers that
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