ody, thank you, nataliya pipa, people's deputy of ukraine and secretary of the verkhovna rada committee on education, science and innovation. that's it and we'll finish our good program , by the way, it was so enlightening, enlightening in part, we really hope that it will be useful to those people who watch us in the temporarily occupied crimea. hold on, stay safe, that's the most important thing. and we believe in ukraine, see you again. it is not clear, we saw a video of mavik entering, he was already shooting himself to the last, and we already saw that he was being tied up, they put him in a trench, we started actively with this one, you can say that the carousel is doing resets , the 300th russian attack aircraft is lying next to him, he is right next to him , we had the pilot kevin, he was given an order, he says that we must...

somehow get this prisoner out, somehow so that he understood and got out of there, he came up with such an interesting thing, ears, ran, did his job, they said, well done, you have a smile, turned around and ran to the dugout, you don't know what will happen now and you don't know what will happen after a couple of seconds, well, it's the way out, we're going to srebynskyi the forest is passing by. they also prevail in our equipment, they also prevail in armed forces, they leave as if in a ring of bmps and make a cross carriage, they want to reach liman, they want to seize the road, well, further, how lucky they will be, but they will not be lucky. for almost a year now, the kremennaya region has been one of the...

more urgent areas of the front. we visited various areas of the ukrainian defense in the srebyan forest to find out what caused the russian army's ardent desire to control these forests. we will talk about this in today's issue of donbas reality, and we will also show unique footage of how zasa's drone rescued a ukrainian fighter from captivity and tell this extraordinary story in detail. eduard, aerial scout of the attack drone group. in the srebyan forestry , one of the hottest spots on the front, his unit fights around the clock. the fighter keeps records of work results. in three weeks, the enemy has a total of 45-200, 70-300 and 8 units of automobile equipment. this is what they are trying to do in three weeks of such assaults, meat assaults on the russian federation. break the line

our defense, nothing succeeded, and it’s all thanks to the drones, that is, one crew, sitting somewhere in the basement, in a dugout, it doesn’t matter where, performs a very, very colossal and big job, the guys don’t sleep, they work day and night, but in a day eduard's unit together with his comrades repel dozens of assaults, but he will remember one battle for a long time, - says the soldier, well, just about... they saw the assault of enemy units on the positions of our neighbors, they noticed that a large assault group was coming, which it already went into the trench, was near the trench, jumped in in the trench, the battle began, our neighbors began to retreat there, and there, among these people, servicemen, one of ours was also captured, we understood, we saw a video of zmavik entering, he was already shooting himself to the last, then just plain already. .. that

the enemy is moving along the trench from the left to the right, and he didn't have much of a choice there, in principle, so he decided to surrender, as i understand it, and we have already seen that he was tied up, put in the trench , because the trench had not yet been cleared to the end, it was very hot there there was a lot of such a large area, and they did not wait for it, because if the enemy's assault had already ended, the positions would have been captured by him, well, then there would be nothing to do there, there would be no, there would be no sense, because this prisoner and the people who were left there. they were simply either finished off, or taken out, taken prisoner, so it was decided to immediately inflict fire damage with drops from the mavik, we began to actively do so and so, you could say a carousel, to make drops, that is, to drop one after another, one for one ammunition, they immediately had a lot of wounded, who were in the trench there , there were three, there were two hundred, and the rest, who survived the assault group, who were still targets, on whom they had not yet inflicted damage, they ran away, this is a video of the same battle,

a ukrainian prisoner of war is in a trench, next to him is a wounded russian serviceman. the situation began to develop according to such a scenario that no one expected. there was one drop on the drone on the mavic that was attached to... we flew up and started to see what he was going to do anyway, whether he was alive or not, this the guy, he was lying in the trench, then stood up , his hands were tied behind his back, as i understand it, his hands were tied loosely, that is, with tape or something like that, well, it is not clear, because he tied himself very quickly, around the third russian attack aircraft is lying next to him, he is right next to him, he looked around, he saw that there were a lot of wounded of his enemy, who could not give himself a chance... there were killed there, and he realized that nothing was in danger for him, the pilot kevin in we were there, they gave him an order, he says it is necessary, it is necessary to somehow get him out, captive, somehow, so that he would understand and get out of there, how he came up with such an interesting thing, he began to flash the lights on the drone, we always turn them off so as not

to burn, roughly speaking, our drone, so he began to flash these lights, this the guy saw it, he wasn't confused, he saw that i was saying that they weren't working on it, that is, it was theirs. so he started to get out of the trench on his own, but he didn’t understand which, which way he should go in general, and then he started asking there, showing with his hands, whether i should go to the left or to the right, i i don't know, and the drone is already showing him the direction to go. the footage from the drone shows that the ukrainian fighter was without a weapon while he was trying to get out to his own, another unforeseen moment happened, it turned out that the drone fighters did not destroy the entire assault group of the enemy, as if they did not feel anything, trouble, everything is fine, he began to crawl away , and then we see such a picture that he froze in place, and we could not understand why he did not crawl further, and then, when we raised the drone camera a little higher, we saw that the enemy was standing there, one serviceman, he i didn’t shoot at him, nothing, but i showed him

to return to the place, like with my hand, where are you going, and at that moment we immediately reacted, flew up, well , the reset went off immediately, automatically, aimed, but nearby, he fell under a tree, he was lying there, then we finished him on the second reset, but as i understand it, he was after the first 300, and then they began to take out the soldier of the neighboring brigade directly to a safe place, he also began to climb out of the dugout on half-quarters , a rescue operation ukrainian the fighter lasted about an hour on the last... in the footage, it is noticeable that he is no longer crawling, but running towards the shelter. we realized that the danger is only in the way that we know where our positions are, we know where the reserve positions are, where our dugouts are, and we also knew where the positions of our neighbors are, we took him out until he crawled there, he did not move to a safe distance, conditionally

maybe a kilometer there, we knew that there was a dugout there, he climbed into this dugout and then the evacuation group came and they were already taking him away directly there, his people were already taking him from there. i would like to talk to this soldier, ask him how it really was, but then we just flew to do our work, because the assaults there did not end, to reach the position of the ukrainian mortars, that is another quest, we are going with transfers, they don't come here empty-handed, our escort brought the guys a gas cylinder and household items, it's so cold, how are you sitting there in your trenches?

and it's as fast as possible, we try everything to do, will prepare, come and make progress. stay at these installations , attack ukra, most of them are dugouts, the infantry is on the offensive, but yesterday there was an offensive, we repelled the offensive, and then our guys were still with us, that is, we covered them, well, constantly, well, that day, i won't tell you. in 2 years, this is already, well, this is just the basis of your activity, i ran here, did my job, they said well done, you have a smile, turned around and ran to the dugout , lingering all the time, well, it’s not

worth it near the gun at all, what can be very come quickly otvetochka, the intensity of the fighting is not scary, because what happened... in the beginning, back in the spring and summer of 2022, then there was more, well, much more shelling and fighting, now there is, but not... sit and rest is not doing anything here at any second something can happen, well maybe they are there some kind of regrouping is going on, maybe they want something or an assault there or it is still unknown what they want, this shelter will not always be there either, well, it is good when the intensity is going, well, somewhere there is something shooting somewhere, then in principle it is, well, it was... it's normal, but the rocking silence is also not, well, not good. mykola

was a mortar gunner, in the first months of the full-scale war he was not accepted into the army, he was not there for 27 years, but later he was mobilized. well, i understood where i was going, because , as they say, it could be a one-way ticket, well, it’s unknown, because you don’t know what will happen now and you don’t know what will happen in a couple of seconds, and that’s it. you've never, well , come to your senses, you're even, well, no one is insured against this, well... the conditional silence is broken by the sounds of breaks, like say the military, come, very close, ours, let's hope, it's aviation, it's a way out. fighters wind bags of

gunpowder on mines to increase the flight range. you have to do it with your bare hands, and it's -15 outside now. well, it's enough for us that we run to the pipe, work, that 's enough for us, because it's all intense, it was right after work until you're tired, because it's all fast, do this there , do that, this one for us constantly has to be lit under it. as well as before snow, just like before autumn, just like before spring, you have to constantly look for new camouflage nets to disguise yourself, because if you don’t disguise them, they will find them very quickly, we can also squat down and do push-ups, in the dugouts , we already lost ourselves bought to get out, so we are warming up. oleksandr is the only one in his calculation who has been fighting since the 21st year, he specially joined the airborne troops, he wanted to fulfill

his dream, well, i wanted to overcome my fear , the most important thing is the fear of heights, i overcame it, yes, i made my first jump, well, i i hope that he is not the last, but for now one, well, i can't express it with praise, it's very euphoric, interesting, well, as they say, the first jump where i never understood. he says, i will understand what it is like in the second, then we will wait for our second jump. stepan is the oldest here, recently returned from vacation, met with his son, who also serves. when he saw that i had joined the army, i also struggled for a long time during this year, i refused as much as i could, because of course it was dangerous and everything else, but he insisted on his point, he originally wanted to get to army, but... they don't take him like that, because he's 20 years, he is not subject to mobilization,

so there was only one way out, that is to sign a contract. the birth of a granddaughter is also a serious incentive to hold on, says the fighter. i was on vacation, at the beginning of december, and i saw her, but i specifically went to see her, and to come so that she could see me when she was older. now that we have been here for one year, of course we have to survive , we spend more time here with them than with our families, if we spend 10 days at home due to bad weather, that's fine, well with that, well with that there are no problems, it's just that the situation here is stressful , you can't rest now, well... well, that's enough for us,

we're going, we're going to the serybyansk forest, we're passing the city of siversk, which has been living without electricity for two years , without water supply, under constant artillery and air fire from the russian army, but despite this, there is still... a cover for the russian army to advance, that the enemy did not even think of launching another attack, an extreme assault, it was two tanks, it was two tanks, a lot of infantry, but our guys are good and know it his business, and one tank managed to escape

with a hit, and one remained in our land to rust a little. there is joint work, starting with our birds, and the defense of our infantry, the opponent is worthy, honestly, they are superior to us in technology, they are superior in weapons, but the truth is ours, we are on our own land, the truth is, lyman wants to reach liman, he wants to take the road. well then, how lucky they will be, but they will not be lucky, but guess what, the english howitzer l119 is ideal for repelling the assaults of the russian infantry, which are daily here, it deploys very quickly and can fire up to five shots per minute, in the current war,

it is extraordinarily effective, really, compare the soviet guns on which... at first they worked, they are bulky, and quite a problem to put projectiles, they are large and transportation is also difficult, but we always dig in because the probability of a hit is less, to be honest, here you can leave, put two twigs in the field and we are ready for work, well, this is an assault gun, our 105- and caliber, it is more... goes for light armored vehicles and for infantry , it works very well, and if we are already taking a tank and something more serious, then we already need the 122nd, that is, the 30th, but with the 105th caliber we can quite damage the tank, according to the sighting devices , we can work, and the tank

, let’s put it this way, it is not destroyed, but disabled, in the war in the forest there is a specific feature, he says... from my own interview, i will say that they go out as if in a ring of bmp and make a cross wagon, well, that is it is difficult, very very difficult to fight with them, but perhaps, there is such a feeling that they, you know, as if they are under some more superficial substances, well, they fall, get up and go. then there was even a situation once, when i was on an assault, we are going to storm, as they say , the enemy, there was an ex, like our dshv deyska, they have a widow, that is, we are three hundred, as a muscovite says, he does not surrender to the airborne forces until the end

, well, while i certainly didn’t get a bullet in the forehead, there are options when there are air gaps, that is , you... in fact, it seems that you have already hit the target, here the projectile hits a tree and it’s a pity, and there who is left intact, well, he should not remain intact, but nothing, once we hit a tree, nothing, then we will get where we need to go, recently volodymyr was awarded for his courage and for dozens of successfully completed combat tasks, before the mobilization i delivered beer, i was a freight forwarder , mobilized, at the beginning... how i mobilized like that, well, it was honestly scary, when you go on an assault, you have a feeling that you are scared, well, when you already come into contact with the enemy, well, you already you know how automatism already turns out and everything, ugh, it's just a machine gun, either you or you, you don't think about it for a long time, i received the order of

gold. and it’s probably the fact that he was in the infantry, he was on assaults many times, many comrades died of diarrhea, well, i don’t know, maybe he earned some money somewhere, it’s nice, of course, when there is a reward like that, well, it’s nicer when you don’t include your comrades , this is more pleasant , because for example, you know, a man drank coffee this morning, in the evening he is no longer there, and you... that there is a wife, someone else, well, it is very difficult, really, you know that there is one for everyone person, for every soldier, i think that there is a turning point in life when... it was hard to shoot children, probably such a valid

argument, children are our future, they are the foundation of our civilization, you just know that, it's a pity, that not everyone understands that, damn it, now the war is not extermination, more precisely, not for the territory, they... are simply exterminating civilization, because we from the konovniks are at their throats and that's all, you need to understand that, that's how they exterminate that's all, but we stand for our children, well, we need to stand for a year, we need two, well, so we are standing , but it is okay, we are now writing a big story, it is obvious that... the russian federation was preparing for the current offensive actions along the entire front line, first of all, by accumulating human resources, which the armed forces of ukraine are currently grinding away in the course of daily attacks on their positions. at the same time

, the russian military has not yet had any serious successes on the front line. this became especially noticeable during the last two months in serebryansk forestry, where the defense of the armed forces of ukraine is competently organized. these were donbas realities, my name is yehor loginov, see you soon. glory to ukraine, this is the verdict program, my name is serhiy rudenko, i congratulate everyone and wish everyone good health. for the next two hours, we will talk about ukraine, the world, the war, and our victory. today in the program. signals from putin. the kremlin allegedly informed the us of its readiness for negotiations on ukraine, which game the russian dictator is playing. anticipation of a major war: nato conducts its largest training exercise since the cold war. how

quickly can russia prepare for an attack? assistance will not be blocked. hungary and slovakia softened its position on ukraine, which influenced orban and fico. we will talk about this and other things during the next hour with diplomat valery. chalym in the second part of our program, which will start in an hour, there will be a journalism club. olga musafirova and olga len will be guests of our journalism club. however, before starting our big conversation, let's watch a video of how ukrainian soldiers destroyed the latest russian tank t-90 breakthrough on the left bank of the kherson region. vivid footage of the finishing of equipment with drones, made public journalist. yuriy butusov, let's see.

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ukraine needs now. if you watch us on tv, bring your smartphones and vote if yes, then 0800-211-381, no, 0800-211-382. all calls to these numbers are free. we have a politician, a diplomat, an extraordinary person on the phone. ambassador plenipotentiary of ukraine to the united states of america in 2015-2019 valery chaly. mr. valery, i congratulate you and thank you for being with us today. i congratulate you. glory to ukraine. glory to heroes. well, since we are asking our tv viewers whether ukraine needs a government of national unity, i will ask you too. what do you think, does ukraine need such a government now? i would not like to influence your opinion tv viewers at the beginning of the program, since you already asked, in my opinion, ukraine needs dynamics in the conditions of war, and

absolutely, well, such a level of inclusion, not only the authorities, everyone, and everyone, and the president, and the parliament, and that , that we have a cabinet of ministers, well, it now plays a strange role, but none the less, and in general wide gaps in business and society, that is, because for two reasons: first, there is fatigue, and fatigue with maximum involvement, it is obvious at the front, i.e. here without sadness... anger is impossible, there are human physical forces, they are not limitless, there are it's just purely mental problems, and also, if i invested as much as possible at 100%, some kind of renewal is needed within the power institutions, i just don't know how to do it correctly in conditions when it is not possible to hold elections, but here really the thing that lies on the surface is certain rotations

in the executive structures, and... what they can be, obviously, if they will have a broader basis under them, then it will be better, especially since such the message that the once ruling majority factions in the parliament have problems, therefore, it is probably necessary to review first, after all, see what coalition will be in the parliament, it may be a coalition of national unity, and accordingly , we can talk about the government. well, actually, that is why we are asking, mr. valery, our viewers, because david darakhamiya says that 17 deputies from the servant of the people want to leave the parliament, and this may create problems for the majority, well, it will not create problems for the parliament, but the majority will have to create a new one, i just wanted to add with your permission that as far as i know there is now there are revolutionary ideas, how to change it all, but without changes, let's say so. and

to change such ideas without changes is a wrong idea , that is, if there is a problem, but there is no reaction, because the war is really about, there are, not all mechanisms can be used, then one mechanism is clear, we should not weaken the institution , in this case, the parliament, and in fact, there are mechanisms here, but on the other hand, it seems that a mechanism is being sought... as of yesterday, how to prevent the ruling coalition from collapsing, but it is already is not the majority in parliament , i.e., by and large, today we have a composition of both the parliament and the government, not the government, but the committees in the parliament, it does not correspond to what happened during the elections, it is obvious, therefore, without elections, without even holding elections in the parliament, it is possible it would be good now to really

think about... expansion is already cementing the expansion of the coalition, by the way, there were such coalition agreements at one time, that is , they are also in our legislation, it can be a broad coalition, if we say that it is a war and all united, i don't understand why here the problems of uniting a coalition based on the defense of ukraine, the defense of ukraine, european euro-atlantic integration, and then, by the way, those who are in the opposition or oppose the government, they will be part of it. of this process, it will already be their joint exact responsibility, i absolutely agree with you that in the conditions of war such a government or such a coalition will give the impression that the power is one in ukraine, there is no such division between the power, the opposition, well, even a conditional one, during the war, i understand, it is difficult to say who is opposing, who is, who is in power, although it is power the one that has the resources and opportunities to

influence... domestic and foreign policy, and such unity, and such a government would then allow our western partners to say that we have a united power, we are united by one goal, we are on our way to victory, i hope that it will be so, let's go back to our foreign policy events and results this week, because russia has been quite active... during the last few days , it has used the un security council platform to prove that ukraine is a terrorist country , the country that kills, the country, which shoots down planes. first it was the story of the bazaar, which was shelled in donetsk by russian troops, and they blamed ukraine, the first case and the second case

when... the plane crashed.