i am sorry for what ukraine faced in the 22nd year, unfortunately, against this background, in all these statements and the unfolding of this escalation and the preparation of europe for war, because in europe they speak directly about the fact that it is necessary to prepare for war with russia, training of nato troops began, which became the largest since 1988, 90 thousand personnel. all members of the alliance, the ministry of defense of belarus complained that minsk received neither a warning about the nato exercises nor an invitation to them, whether these maneuvers will impress putin, and to what extent they seriously show the power of the north atlantic alliance, since, as we now understand, most western european states did not predict a military confrontation.

the confrontation of the great confrontation with the russian federation and only the war, the great war of russia against ukraine, only now prompts western european countries to increase the size of the army, to improve production , that is, no one predicted that all the reserves they had, that they would go to, well, partially go to of ukraine in order to resist russia? well, we talked about the fact that these exercises, they already have... an absolutely clear, well, obvious task, that is, to counter the russian invasion. and yes, they 're hoping that they're sending a signal like that, but really, you know, signals, without specific confrontations or results, it 's like, well, the russians might not be stopped, if they were stopped, they'd think 10 times, what advice that it is not necessary to invade

ukraine, but no one understood this, they were carrying out their own plan, which was completely in a parallel reality, and no one the nato countries are not guaranteed that they will not be overthrown there either, i will remind you that in principle this has already happened more than once in history, and we have seen that despite the fact that there is no, there was no sense... where are you going, and the soviet union or russia got in there, and then there was much more, maybe some arguments, here, well, i explained to you, as i see it, they still want to make a provocation, and nato, until it collided with russia, russia will not understand anything, there is a war with finland, i am now re-reading the memories of those times, and you know that everything happened... logically, it seems

that there is no need to worry, but in the first days of this situation, well, they just fell, there were corpses 1:10, and even 1 to 17 were the days of the dead soviet soldiers, that is, they simply went there to both, and it would seem that everyone thought, but no, this cannot be, and at the same time, finland was still supported by various countries, fought on their side. that is, that is why only the soviet union only stopped, well, when it really got a base there and got, seized the territory, when it was given to it, but also when it realized that it there will simply be terrible consequences, eh for them, so in principle they can do whatever you want, i’ve been saying and saying, and it will be checked, let’s check, i’m not making a forecast, i ’m just seeing, i know something about their psychology, so in they just... itch, their hands

itch, they will try, they are sure that the eu and nato countries are weaklings, yes, the usa, they also respect the fact that the usa has nuclear weapons, for nothing else, in fact, but the europeans they don't consider anyone there capable of resisting them at all, they don't get it yet, i'm sorry her answer is that they will climb, and they will definitely try... to climb somewhere can be a provocation, moreover, i think that it can be at the first opportunity already there next winter, when between there, perhaps the elections on november 5 in the usa, the inauguration, there will be a certain such period, well, not that there is no power, no, but a certain transfer, trance transition, i.e. transfer of power, so here i think we need to be careful, it can be... just a convenient period for them,

training is a good story, training is great, you still need to spend in the black sea in his eastern part of studies. nato countries, turkey, bulgaria, at least, romania, regarding the fight against threats in the black sea basin, i think it will be useful for everyone. friends, i would like to remind you that during our broadcast we are conducting a survey, we are asking you about whether ukraine needs a government of national unity, if you watch us on youtube, vote either with the yes button or no, if you watch us on tv, call us, if you think ... government is necessary call 0800-211-381 no (0800-211-382) all calls these numbers are free, vote, it's important for us to know your opinion. today we have diplomat and politician valery chaly as a guest, and

mr. valery, today the prime minister of ukraine denys shmygel announced at the government meeting that all the countries of the european union have previously agreed to aid ukraine in the amount of 500 billion. euro. let's hear what shmigel said. on february 1, we expect the eu to approve a new four-year support program for ukraine worth 50 billion euros, the ukraine facility. in advance, we can say that all 27 eu members agreed to support this program this year, we expect that the eu will be able to provide us with financial assistance at around the level of 2023 to cover. of the ukrainian budget, it would be important for us to attract about 18 billion euros from the european union. mr. valery, two countries, or rather, the representatives of two countries , fiyco and orban, had doubts about this money until the last, whether it should be given to ukraine or

not. orban spoke this week about nato, whether ukraine should join nato or not . fitso met. this week shmygalem in uzhhorod and said that they will not object if private arms factories in slovakia will sell weapons to ukraine to private companies, what do you think is the reason for the change in the position of fico and orban, why are they going now, if you believe shmyhal's words, why are they taking a step to meet ukraine? well, first of all,... i will say frankly, after the statement of our current prime minister, mr. shmyhal, that ukraine can join the european union, i will allow myself to wait a little for the first date, after all, the approval of 500 billion is taking place

exactly on the first day, all this beforehand, this that's all, well, let's wait for the first one and it will be very good if what the prime minister said. shmygal, it will be like that, 50 billion of macrofin will be provided, which was before, well, it is so obvious that this is the right decision of the european union for a long time, but let's not forget that there are still its funds, regarding which i do not yet know that they were completely unblocked, again the same bloomberg or other publications say that 20 billion have been unblocked here as well, it is european, it seems to be called the peace fund. where military aid to ukraine is consolidated, in our country the military plan is no less, or even more important, that it should be. now regarding the position of the countries, i divide here the attitude to the position of hungary and to the position of slovakia.

first of all, not everything we hear in public is to be trusted, just some things can really be said for internal use, we have to react to them. but to understand the context, and the slovak is just the prime minister, he has, perhaps, many desires to stand out there somehow and repeat orbán, but so far his control over the parliament is very there so not very persuasive for the media, after all, the slovak media is still or will continue to be free, more free, and they can also ask uncomfortable questions. that is, sometimes we simply do not read in the first sources, we have to look, but it is good that the slovak position, after all, has not turned into that of hungary, it is still, well, more constructive, although where it will go

next depends on many factors. hungarian, it is more like, you know, strategic, that is, prime minister of hungary orban acts according to his strategy. vision, he tries to play along with moscow, well, that's obvious, in return to receive all kinds of gingerbread there, from the side. well, starting with nuclear energy, ending with, well, so it is said that at one time the financing of his party was not very much from european countries, that is, he, plus he wants to use two sides in financial terms, both russian and brussels, and he wants to pull i.e. his, it's tergash , there is such a word, tergash, so it seems to me, it's offensive. it simply records that this is not a politician, but a trader, i.e., one who

trades deals in international markets affairs, that is, it is not about values , not about geopolitics, it is purely about his power inside the country, he saw that it works, he saw that it is possible to bargain, but he only the threats of losing some contact with brussels also affect him, well, for example , is now on the table for termination. hungary's voting rights, there is such a thing, there may be such a decision, and , for example, brussels said that if hungary continues to block, they will bypass this one and allocate the package only on a bilateral basis in tranches, well, that is, in principle, it already covers all got there, of course, because the eu country, the nato country, what will happen next, it is difficult to plan, but it is difficult to say, but i think that this is his strategy, he is waiting for the change of power in the usa, donald trump calls him the best. than any politician in europe, or even one in the world , well, he likes it, so i would very much

like the prime minister of slovakia, fitz, not to follow his path, i was at the meetings where i was, where the negotiations were conducted with the participation prime minister fitz, to be honest, he didn't make an impression on me, as we now judge him by statements, i really hope that the very circumstances in slovakia and ... the slovak people, and their support has always been there, it will be unchanged, although the trends there can change even after the russians' work in slovakia is serious, that is why the prime minister of slovakia often reacts very strongly to the pro-russian mood in the eastern part of the country, i.e. his electorate in the eastern part, so let's be more calm about it , but for any statements that sound from such a level. we will have to respond to all the same people, if this, but obviously, mr. valery, and the future of nato too

will depend on orbán, since turkish president erdogan signed the parliament's decision on the ratification of the protocol on sweden's accession to the north atlantic alliance, i understand that now there is not enough hungary, do i understand correctly? hungary, which stated, as far as i can't remember who exactly, but it was an official statement, hungary. will not be the last, that if turkey does this, then hungary just automatically lied, well, i understand that the hungarian government lied, that is, after that they invited sweden to come to the negotiations, to which the swedish side absolutely, well, absolutely, well, with real reasons said, we have nothing to talk about with you, you did not set any conditions regarding sweden, let alone regarding finland. in relation to sweden, no, well, that is, they got involved in this and therefore, just excuse them, now they will send them to

this particular sweden will be a member of nato, and no matter what i do there, one country, i assure you, is like, well, one country is like france, germany, whether there is the usa or great britain, can block there, and our membership in nato at one time was blocked by two countries, one the country will not block the process, i am sure of that, so sweden will get the... decision and it will be in nato this year. another important issue, mr. valery, is north korea's participation in russia's war against ukraine. defense express agency experts write that during the last strike, a massive strike by russia on the territory of ukraine and, in particular , on kyiv last tuesday, missiles from north korea were used. the government of the united states of america is not ... resting because of what kimchanin can accomplish in the coming months some deadly action against south

korea, the new york times writes about it, that is, everyone states the fact that, together with russia , north korea is trying to use all its accumulated potential, military potential, either in a war against ukraine, or in a war against south korea, perhaps against japan they. will be able to use this potential, and maybe against the united states of america, well, it could all be because they have different types of weapons, they are an exile country, that is... they are under sanctions, but the fact remains fact: north korea was and remains the most militarized country, but we don't see any reactions or actions regarding north korea, why? well, we actually, it's just that our focus is sharpened on

the issues of the russian war against ukraine and the middle east, there are steps, there were already last year. additional agreements signed by the us with south korea on additional actions and placement of american, let's say, response capabilities there on the territory of south korea, that is, no, south korea is preparing for a possible confrontation actually, and i'll tell you this thing, in my opinion, this whole situation just showed that the war. on land for countries like russia , north korea, it just has its, well , attractive sides, yes, because in conditions when you don't stretch there, you don't stretch technologically, you can simply turn the war into a war of the last century or, well, in there is a war

of the third generation, as we can see, even this, or even the fourth, that's why i translated it. not convinced, well, now i think so, while everyone is talking about a possible attack there on taiwan, it is more realistic the collision is serious between the two countries, well , it can actually be serious here , a very serious situation will develop, so in principle, i think that north korea also has certain allocation limits, and it... according to the testimony of the americans, it has allocated its huge reserves, no just like that, in exchange for russia giving them technology, giving them more high-tech capabilities, and that's dangerous. today, it is obvious that north korea, the leadership there, everything is based on

an exclusively militaristic concept, that is, and they will not refuse it to the extent of the rhetoric, the power of the north korean dictator is increasing, that is why they will now also make statements more belligerently, i will tell you more, not so long ago he gave up on exactly that, well, they formally do not have peace, and such a truce, and demonstratively demolished, demolished, i don't know if in his presence, i don't watch the news there anyway. but the fact that there was such a monument there, possibly to the unification of korea, they demolished demonstratively, made changes that now for them the inhabitants of south korea are not compatriots, as they were before, simply de-occupy and annex, these are enemies, so this is clearly an increase in hostile rhetoric, and this could lead to a real confrontation

, in terms of missiles on our territory, south, north korea is using this now as a training ground to prepare to improve these weapons right there on their theater of war, they are preparing for war. well, there was information this week that it is possible that putin will go to north korea, but piskov said that it will not happen before the election, and, but in the united states of america reacted, said that it is very bad and they are concerned about the joint work of russia and north korea. sir thank you for the conversation and i wish you good health, thank you for being with us for an hour, this was valery chaly, diplomat, politician, extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to the united states of america in 2015-19. friends, we work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those who are currently watching us live on youtube and facebook, don't

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to draft mandates, does ukraine need a government of national unity, we are conducting a survey, today we ask you about the following, friends, does ukraine need a government of national unity, if you watch us on youtube, everything is quite simple, choose the button yes, no, or write your comments. under this video, what do you think about this, if you watch us on tv, pick up your smartphones and vote if you think that such a government, a government of national unity is necessary for ukraine (0800-211-381), no (0800- 200-11382). call, all calls to these numbers are free. i want to introduce today's guests of our studio, they are the best ukrainian journalists. olga len, author and host. programs chronicle information warfare on espresso. olga, i congratulate you. good evening. olga musafirova, a correspondent of the edition of new newspaper europe in ukraine. olga,

i congratulate you too. congratulations. thank you for joining our broadcast. well, first of all, let's probably answer in a blitz format about whether ukraine needs a government of national unity, since this is the same question we ask our viewers, and it will be only fair if we ... also answer these question. olga, you have a word. well , it seems that we are not discussing this issue for the first time, so i believe that it is necessary, but the question, well, here is rather whether the ruling party actually understands that it needs such a government. well, judging by everything , they still haven't matured to this opinion, because the very conversations about what was mentioned in the announcement that, oh, 17 deputies from the ruling party want to make a mandate. and this is just a big tragedy, well , there wouldn't be this big tragedy if they understood that they probably need to involve a wider circle

in general, well, solving issues. thank you, olga musafirova, two olgas, so i have to call olga musafirova by her last name. i behave, you know, unity in times of war is probably the most important thing that ukraine needs. and here i would like to add one more thing, er , 17 deputies, they will simply write statements and quietly leave, no, not to the forest, just from the parliament, but i don’t know, forgive me, people are still people received money for their work, state money, not so little, eh, will it be possible for the voters to hear some reports that... they they did, and i, as a citizen, am just as interested to know, and what were the actual mental impulses

that led them to draw up a mandate? of course, we don't discuss medical problems, i know there is one person who said that, but everyone else, i think, before leaving, should at least motivate their decision. frankly speaking, colleagues, i believe that these are 17 people who want to leave the verkhovna rada of ukraine from the people's servant, well , obviously, this is a démarche, such a public démarche, and we are talking about... the reputation of not only the faction servants of the people, about president zelenskyi, because in 2019 we know how this faction and these people's deputies, or even candidates for people's deputies of ukraine, met in 2019, but the fact remains: the head of the servants of the people faction in the verkhovna rada of ukraine, davyda rahamia, stated about the possibility of a parliamentary crisis due to the large absence of deputies , i will quote what he said: with the parliament in general

in... a big crisis is approaching, because in my faction alone, i have 17 applications for a mandate, that is, we already have 401 people in the parliament, we have one more let's just let it go due to medical circumstances, there will be 400 people, 226 out of 400 is very difficult to collect, to be honest , i also know in other factions and parties that there are people who want to leave, we decided for ourselves that we will not vote for the drafting of mandates, only if medically there is really... a situation , and there are no more conditions under which we will vote for the drawing up of mandates in order to keep the parliament legitimate, well , to be honest, arahamia is talking complete nonsense, because the parliament will be legitimate if these 17 go people's deputies of ukraine, nothing will happen, and if some reformatting or the creation of a new

majority is needed, these ... votes are also there, 226 votes are needed for a majority, and these votes can be collected from other factions and say that we do not have opposition power, we do not have any disagreements, we are all at war now, and therefore the whole parliament should unite, and in general this parliament should take and call itself the parliament of national unity during the war, it was probably the best, why olya, i am turning to olga. why doesn't zelenskyy act like this? that's it a win-win situation, absolutely , that is, firstly, he gives the opportunity to other factions, other parties to share with him all the responsibility in the country, secondly, he gives the opportunity to all the people to show that he really is the leader of this process, and he can make it so that all representatives

of the verkhovna rada, including... conditional opposition ones, because during the war it is very difficult to talk about the opposition, that they all work for the people of ukraine, well, i see two problems here, well, first of all to say that having 400 deputies after drawing up these mandates, you don't you can collect 226 votes, well somehow it sounds very strange, well, because if there were 300 of them left, well, it would be a problem to collect 226 votes, you have a reserve of votes, but... at least 150 deputies, by and large , even for that the sessions of the parliament are legitimate, well, it seems that 50 deputies can leave without worry, and nothing will happen, well, just nothing, you can convene the parliament, you can hold anything, so there is really no problem here, if you introduce something you talk about with society, under which you strive for

some kind of unity of society. are you not trying to stretch some of these?