and worse countries, yes, so let the european union first of all deal with those in which it is worse, we will talk about hungary later, that is, it is a traditional orban region, so to speak, but in the official policy of budapest, and also in our country there are a couple of minutes left, an article came out that is quite resonant in telegraf, where they say that russia is preparing for all the signs that the war will last for another 3-4 years, at least this is how russia is reconfiguring. the economy in the long term, and what telegraph journalists also write that, accordingly, it has a chance of success if support for ukraine will fall, and the russian dictator is counting on this, but what is actually happening in europe, what will happen this year, many different elections are also taking place this year, do eurosceptics have a chance to come to europe and in which countries? well, actually, you very correctly emphasized the fact that in 2024, a lot of western european... countries will go through

an internal election cycle, and in april we all still have elections for the council of europe, which is also one of the events that we are very much looking forward to. the same russian federation, taking into account the fact that that they really like to destabilize the situation in western countries precisely during the election period, in fact, we see that at least so far at this stage, judging by the statements of the leaders of key western european countries, judging by the results of the extreme ramstein that took place. last week, in fact the western european countries are at the moment determined to be as determined as possible, first of all, in the sense that they understand the full depth and danger of threats from the russian federation, they are preparing to to be as independent as possible from the resources of the united states of america in terms of our own defense capability and in terms of helping ukraine, yes, because we saw that at the end of last year, for example, germany itself, so we... for a lot of things, of course,

we can to criticize chancellor schultz, but nevertheless, it was on his initiative that the budget that berlin officially planned to allocate in the 24th year to help ukraine was almost doubled, that is, 4 billion euros were laid down in the first project, and in the second project project, in the second version of this project, there is already a little more than 7 billion euros, and we see that such countries as great britain, such countries as the netherlands, finland. the same way and the same france, they are also following this course , well, let’s say to maximize support for ukraine for the 24th year, taking into account the fact that the states , well, of course, will be more concerned with internal problems and, accordingly, with their resources and not with the support of the union -e european countries and in support of ukraine, well , since in the 23rd year it is not really necessary to calculate, and at least, if this message, it will be saved in ot... as a result of these

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of a detachment of unmanned aerial vehicles devices, among others, of course, very responsible things in the armed forces, which are placed on your shoulders. and i would like to dedicate our conversation. precisely the topic of unmanned aerial vehicles, since it is extremely relevant precisely now, in general, it is uavs that have reached the level of development where they are used at the highest level, both by us and by the enemy. according to your observations and according to your experience, who is now tracking the number of effectiveness of their use and their production for war. us or the enemy , well, look, this information, it is a little bit, is not public, well, but i can tell you something, the fact that we have a very well-established

system, the system of rebuilding these drones, this, well, this, this the fact that they fly to the territory of the russian federation is also a fact fact. but i want to remind you that as far as i know, well, we all know that dear drones, they consist of spare parts of chinese, mainly chinese production, and as far as i know, precisely for fpv drones, the russians ordered from the chinese until until the month of march, components for 50,000 drones, eh... but i want to note that at that time we very much exceed our efficiency of their use, and well, i think that a lot of people have seen these videos, well it's about

the effectiveness of the application, then we are sure the rest is ahead, unfortunately, i’m sorry, i can’t tell you, mr. general, well , fpv technology, in general, ukrainians heard about it six months ago, the most advanced, maybe a year ago, and already now there is a call to learn to assemble, learn to complete, we understand that it is more difficult for us to get spare parts for these devices geographically than for the russian federation. can we, at least as of now, talk about some development of our own production of spare parts, and what should be done for this, from your point of view? well, as far as i know, there is several enterprises, which, unfortunately, i cannot name them, which are currently, yes, which are currently developing and... and and and provide us with these spare parts, it exists, but i think that

for, well, for that , for it to be massive, it needs some kind of government program that would support these manufacturers, and we could, well, at least partially replace the dependence on spare parts from china, uh, why fpv, there is an opinion that it is them that we are trying to ... block, it is possible that there is a lack of ammunition for artillery, well, in fact, fpv technology is now replacing art a little bit, do you agree firstly, you are with this, because the views differ a little, someone says that it is completely impossible to replace artillery, even more so to reinforce it directly with drones, but it is definitely not replaced. well, for sure, i want to say absolutely precisely that it is simply impossible to replace artillery... with drones, because in artillery, well, a completely different

task is to create a barricade wagon or to use artillery in the suppression of large rebs, well, in these cases , fpv drones are not no, they won't be able to do it, but they somehow compensate us for that lack ammunition, which is available and... they perform tasks very effectively at short distances, well, to the enemy, and what makes them effectively different from artillery is that the operator sees where he is hitting, and this is the most important effective, well, but for sure it will not replace artillery, and artillery has completely different tasks and without... biz without the use of artillery, well , i think that war is impossible, from our

side, well, literally, again a year ago it is possible was to see a huge number of gatherings among volunteers, in particular at reconnaissance drones, in particular for the same mavics, my colleagues and tv viewers have repeatedly collected both on the matrices at the request of our defenders, and on the same poseidons, very valuable pieces. but now we see that the need for exactly this type of uav has decreased , what is this related to, they may not have shown themselves as expected, or again are there cheaper substitutes, well, as far as i know, it has not decreased, it just is partially closed at the expense of the state, that is, the state has already begun to purchase them at the state level, and just so you understand fpv drone. it's a drone that flies once in one direction, and of course, that is, if the mavic can

be used there for weeks, months, then the fpv drone is a one-time, well for one-time use, so in the background of this, well, it just seems that these more are being bought, there are fewer, well, as far as i know, there is a need for them and there will be, and... this is such an opinion, probably a little wrong, but there is, there is a great need for pevidrons, too, now it is actively emphasized that also means of countering uav technologies, these are also things that it would be good for ukrainians to have already learned to make, who can and preferably at a fairly high... level of electronic warfare systems, yes, there are already

precedents when, well, in fact, we see that the enemy learns both from our experience and from his own, and it is the same it should be taken into account that just recently the verkhovna rada passed the issue of simplifying the import into our country, in particular of components for radio-electronic warfare, can we say that this need is promptly... closed now, at least on the front line. well, as far as i know yes, we have several enterprises, about 18, which are already self-sustaining. but they produce reb systems , well, that’s what the people call them a dome, that’s how they assemble, we still depend on foreign manufacturers, but you understand how the enemy learns, so we learn, that is , we are constantly, we do not stand still, we are constantly are developing, so i will say that thanks to such

a brilliant work of our specialists, we have... greatly reduced the use of eagles in the south of ukraine, they no longer fly the way they used to fly, that is, they use them already in such critical cases, and this is thanks to the fact that we have learned something , unfortunately, i cannot tell you the details, but we have already learned how to make them so that they do not fly here, or if they fly, they fall, this it concerns only eagles, is there any hope for a similar trend with other drones, literally... in october of the previous year , the russians boasted of defeating one of our airfields in the dnipropetrovsk region, luckily for everyone, analysts then confirmed that they most likely attacked some false target , but the very precedent of their flight to dozens of kilometers to our rear worried many people at the time, well, as far as i know, there was not a drone there, but a missile, so they

misled their people and our people a little, but... that's enough of them, well you see it yourself, they use types quite often, quite powerfully, such types as chess, such types as lancet, which yes, unfortunately, they are impressive, but also against them we have already, we have already found, we have already found a way out, and we are currently working on it with our specialists, as far as i know, there has already been a test. the first instances and i think that in the near future we will provide our groups with exactly such means so that they cannot harm our human resources. you mentioned the group, but i can't help but ask, i think that many ukrainians are listening and

are very curious, more information, of course, we will probably find out after the war. who are they? korshony, uncle dima, tell at least a little of what you can. well, these are ordinary people, it was an experimental project of chief commissar valery zaluzhny, at the beginning last year exactly, exactly in a month we will have a year. we have created such an experimental uav unit, which includes both military and nsu. and police officers, these are people who have already been trained, or had a great desire to learn, to work on drones, on wings, that is, our tasks include development, adjustment of artillery and independent damage with drops, these are ordinary people who are motivated,

highly motivated, who are not it is necessary to level there ... i should explain, who simply know their task and perform it every day. and most importantly, that the whole of ukraine very often actually feels this, since the enemy continues its attacks from the southern direction, and in particular , you and your team work with the security of the southern direction. and, mr. dmitry, what are the main trends you would single out in the south as of today, if of course it is... we can talk about it, we understand that the situation with the war, it is positioned in some moments, in some points and in some shades the russians have gained strength, are recruiting and are going to press, specifically in your operational zone, what are the main features of the war today? oh well

this is a bigger hypothetical war, unfortunately i can’t say much, but i can say that... our fighters, our command, pivdnya, katran, odesa, they are very successful in planning deterrence operations, that is, they now want to use their units there in order to repulse us from the left bank of the dnieper, but they do not succeed, our fighters, god bless them, successfully repulse their attacks, eh... i even want to give an example where they asked to enter three groups in order to repel our fighters and the fpv itself drones from... are these attacks. ugh. and, on the other hand, we understand that provision of everything that our defenders on the left bank need

is also very often done with the use of uav technologies. in principle, the military talks about this quite often, and it is open information. is the enemy trying to counter in this direction precisely along the dnipro water area? so. of course, he constantly keeps the water under fire control, this is , well, you understand, the main road to the other side, but we, our guys, manage, i want to say that our units have repeatedly asked the teams for us to help them transfer to that shore both provisions and ammunition, uh, people who can help us in the occupation, so we understand that this is an extremely valuable resource, uh, and actually, how active they are myself in the southern direction

, i understand that this is a very thin flight, on which we will not walk and hum now, but still it is important for many ukrainians to understand how much people in the occupation generally work side by side with us for a single goal, or a certain despondency and maybe... expectations about just expectations also exist here , well, look at the people of kherson already in kherson, they have already proved to our country, to the whole world, that they do not want to be either russia, or anyone else, or anyone else, so yes, of course, it is these people who they don't want russia to be in their home, they help us, they are not human at the same time. they find opportunities in those very difficult conditions, they find an opportunity to provide us with this valuable

information that helps us hit the enemy precisely, precisely and in a timely manner. but does it vary? somehow the position of these people depends on how long they were occupied and... on how far they are directly from the line of combat, well, for example, the people of kherson, there are no questions here, but the residents of the temporarily occupied crimea? er, well, i will say that there are people in crimea who do not, do not want russian peace there, they want it to be ukraine, and they also help us and will help us. and you understand, these are people who were forced to stay there, taking care of their homes there, of some elderly people there

parents, they are also forced to be there, but they don't exactly want a russian peace there, that's why they help us as much as they can, they find channels, they find, they find an opportunity and give us that valuable information. which i already talked about, so i will simply note that quite a long time ago in the attached messages, probably one of the most extensive publics in telegram in our country, nikolaev vanyok, about whom i as a media person can now talk, because i know that in principle and you have elements of a certain cooperation, i don't pretend or ask which one, but less and less, for a longer time, there is a message with an appeal to the crimeans that the war is coming closer and closer to their door, and they can eventually help

to end it sooner, i would like to believe, that they respond to these calls? yes , they respond, they help, i will say that we have a lot, a lot of information, i get it from mykolaiv vanka, he has such a powerful network... the network of this partisan movement, he has already verified people who are there from the first days of the war to us helped and are still helping, so when he gives us information, it can be double -checked. ugh, successful interaction, that's how i understand our civil sector and the military. hello to mykolaivskyi vanko, then we will pass it all together. mr. dmytro , thank you for this conversation, i understand that now we are a bit slow... in commenting on the most important topics, but thank you, these are very important points that were made, in particular for our viewers and listeners, dmytro marchenko, general of the armed

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