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they wanted to do it better, how better to do it, but i just look at it not as an educator , but as what is the effect of this, well, let's say, a counter-propaganda ukraine , what will russia say to the residents of crimea, what will the propagandists say, this is your ukraine , and the only crimean university that she, well, legally and physically or... partially evacuated and , therefore, resumed its work in kyiv, she cancels it, destroys it, everything, nobody, nothing, nobody needs you, ukrainian patriots in crimea, that is, it is a signal to whom, to whom and which signal, that is, it didn’t work out, you know , something didn’t work out with this, something went wrong with this university, well, let it, let it be gone, that is, the only, eat, the only crimean higher education, how is it possible to discuss such a thing at all . you can make any
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reform, change there, i don’t know , the personnel there, change anything, but destroy the very idea of the crimean university, well, i’m sorry, it’s me, maybe i’m stupid, but somehow it doesn’t work for me, yes , but i want to tell you that the russians before you use the narrative that you are talking about now said, they should probably think about what they have already done to destroy tnu as such. in some there, some crimean academy , as it is called now, the word is not recognized anywhere, i don’t know what weight these diplomas have in general, it is very unfortunate that such a story is happening, gigantamania, and you studied there, yes, yes, i had such an experience, how is it possible, how is it possible? begins to close
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the university where khrystyna yatsky studied. this is just some kind of illogical phenomenon. let's join in our conversation, try these cheeses put accents nataliya pipa, people's deputy of ukraine and secretary of the verkhovna rada committee on education, science and innovation is in touch with us. ms. natalya, congratulations, glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes, have a good day. well, look, when we talk about tavria university, i am first of all, in principle, everything i do. in education , i look at it from the point of view of the quality of education, yes, because this is the answer to everything, accordingly, one must look at the quality of education, what it will be at tavrivskyi, what it is at tavrivskyi university, as far as i know, it is planned to create a crimean church, at the kyiv-moholyan university, which is one of the best universities in ukraine today, and the position of the crimean tatars was very important to me in this, and i believe that one of the strongest representatives in the mizhelis, as well as tamil tasheva, as completely... important regarding
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crimean issues, all these people actually say that the creation of the crimean center in mohylianka, actually, and not in some mediocre university, should actually raise the quality of education, first of all for the crimean tatars themselves. currently, tabrid university, well, it's hard for me to give ratings, because i haven't personally analyzed each program, but from what i know, there are only 14 or 16 winners. education, education seekers who study the crimean-tatar language, and there is only one teacher who can teach in the language of the crimean tatars, and accordingly, there is a challenge in this, that is why i first of all take this position, i do not know which one the final decision will be made, i heard different sides and delved into the details, the most important thing is what will happen to the quality of education in this institution, and whether there will be a is this actually what... the crimean
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church of the kyiv-mohyla academy is planned to rise, for example, will raise the number of people who will learn the crimean-tatar language, who will work to ensure that we in ukraine, the crimean tatars of the indigenous people, know at least 10 basic words, and whatever it may be, if not in the primer, then i don’t know, teachers for the third, fourth grade, or at least with the study of the history of ukraine ms. natalie, it’s hard to disagree with you, by the way, before the broadcast, ayder and i just had a conversation thoughts on... the topic of transliteration, i.e., we are now following the path of liquidation of the tavrian national university, which was relocated from crimea in 2016, and not elementary things that need to be systematically dealt with at the scientific, expert level, and the state would have to pay attention all these years and not allow a situation where oh ok the university is not very efficient let's destroy it ms.
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natalie i agree with you i understand you are an expert and so am i i am against generalizing there , somehow there to blame. someone is unjustified, but the fact that this university was brought into exile to such a state is surely someone's fault, and it is certainly not the fault of the students, nor of the people who want to study, want to study the crimean language, on the contrary, we must develop this education , we have to encourage more people, students , teachers, ethnic ukrainians, crimeans, it doesn't matter, because i... what ukrainians love to learn ukrainian, crimean language, yes, if there is already some optimization, we have to make it clear, that it is temporary, that after the return of crimea the university will be, will be restored, and here are the following nuances, i also want to hear your opinion about it, maybe you
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have heard about it, maybe not, then it will benefit everyone and the audience, including, well , for example, this university need to be exact as the brand. to return to save, to apply, tavria tavria is part of the greek project of catherine ii, who introduced it to change all of us in the occupied territories of the south of ukraine and crimea, and tavria, tavrida, tavria direction, tavria university, that's it, then it you know, it’s roughly like little russia, it ’s of such and such order, so the names, many people in power, in education , etc., don’t think about it either, but you have to think about other things, for example, elementary language reform has not yet been carried out, elementary, i emphasize, this a week of work by specialists, no more, all transliteration from the crimean language into the ukrainian language goes through the russian language, the most vivid, most shameful example is the bagchi-sarai, there is no bagchi-sarai
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, there is a bagcha, there even the sound g is like a common sound in ukrainian crimean, bagcha a barn, a garden is a garden, a barn is a palace, and why? still translated through the russian language into ukrainian bashchysarai another such and such everyday example, cheburek, cheburek is not from the word chyburshka, this translation is completely stolen from through the russian language the transliteration of chyberek, or berk, berk is a pie, and or is the sound when something is fried , well, these are two simple examples that we bring to the point that, actually, all these discussions, all this work should be very... dark, and we very much hope that against the background of the kyiv-mohyla academy in a special this work will be carried out in the center, but should we instead destroy the tavri national university, of course, in terms of the quality of education, i am sure that
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many ukrainian universities are now entering, but perhaps we could work on this, ms. natalya, and, well, look, here of course , that you look at different indicators, specifically in this case, so they could... or about tavrizky, then i analyzed the situation, that it should actually benefit the crimean studios, i would call them crimean tatar studios, so that all these things that you say, they are in fact, well, if they should take place, and regarding the transliteration, i completely agree with you, and that in fact we do not know basic things about the crimean tatars, but we should know as for one of the natives, the main native people of ukraine after the ukrainians, accordingly i agree with this as a matter of fact. i say, it was not the kyiv-mogul academy with a good scientific school and academics, then it would have caused much more discussion, but there is support for majelis, and we must understand that now on higher education, we as a state spend 48 billion hryvnias of state procurement, 47 billion hryvnias on all universities
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combined, which is more than 200 universities and one billion clearly on the shevchenko university, which once achieved a separate column in the budget of ukraine. and accordingly, we as a state must distribute these 48 billion more efficiently, because our money is actually very limited, and the efficiency of higher education, well , it leaves us to wish for better, so my first and foremost goal is that people who want to study e and crimean studies, crimean tatar and this region of the south had a good base, and i think that over time, if this base is called a center today, but over time it will grow to the level of a university. then it is also possible to continue this scientific school, it just seems to me that what if we just change it completely now and most of everything the university has will still be less effective than joining the kyiv-mohyla academy, of course i am ready to communicate, and i think that all those who are
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specialists, in particular on this issue, will be able to continue teaching in that center and i am sure that students will be able to complete their studies and well... then definitely get a diploma, and it will be guaranteed, that's why i looked at these criteria and then i would analyze the quality of education, ms. natalie, i see that you are a very ... proactive and caring person, that's why i'm also contacting you and to all involved to raise these issues. in principle, the crimean university should exist and it can even be there in advance, we are already renaming some settlements that are de facto under occupation, we can create some kind of perspective for the crimea for this crimean university, yes that is, not just so that it does not look like the issue is closed, the final solution, so that it does not look like that. one more thing, i am not a very great
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professor and teacher, but i can just give lectures for hours about crimea, about elementary things, there is nothing complicated, there is nothing too complicated, even we need to discuss and finish this issue in order to stop calling us tatars, i i have been talking about this for several years, and president zelensky, by the way, and poroshenko too. the kremlin called us crimeans, that's right, because tatars are a synonym for barbarians in fact, it is the origin of such a colonial, thank you, you see, i have not yet studied this particular statement, i will know now, thank you very much, you see, there were no crimean studies at my university either, unfortunately, well, you see, i even emphasize the crimean language, crimean people, crimeans, ukrainians, i do not use these narratives that the russian empire brought us, because it called tatars, for example, azerbaijan. there caucasian, baku tatars, they got rid of this brand, well, colonial, well, i want to
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agree with you, thank you for your comments constructive, and that's exactly what i will do now , thank you, and i want to remind you that the second rector of the tavrya national university was the ukrainian scientist naturalist volodymyr vernadskyi, who refused to emigrate, and in the 20s, when soviet power was finally established in crimea, in fact reorganizes the institution at the frunze university of crimea is liquidating some faculties, reducing funding, recalling some processes, right? so vernatskyi said to all this: i consider tavria university to be the only free university in the entire territory, well then russia, then such were the realities, as it fully embodies the principle of freedom and autonomy, which universities have always strived for. the policy pursued by the soviet government towards universities is the deprivation of their autonomy and their destruction. this is a quote from volodymyr. bernatsky, which i think will be very appropriate. ms. natalie, we
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thank you very much for your participation in the work for the opinions that have been expressed, and we will carefully monitor how changes are taking place in the educational system of our country. we understand that it cannot be as it was before, but the main thing, you know, here is to separate the wheat from the chaff and not to cause unnecessary damage. thank you, natalia pipa, people's deputy of ukraine and secretary. educational in part, we really hope that it will be useful for those people who are watching us in the temporarily occupied crimea, hold on, stay safe, this is the most important thing, and we believe in ukraine, until new meetings. there are
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such an aspect as football and what happened during the week, andriy shevchenko, the new president of the uaf, expected, everything that preceded it what happened during this, what were the conversations after, we will talk today, i, oleksandr vashchuk and andrii melinovskyi, andrii, hello, hello to everyone, in fact, there are often fashion weeks, and this week in ukraine... you can call it football week, a lot of news, events, hype from what happened in the house of football, around this event, the appointment of the president of the uaf, which he became. andriy shevchenko, in fact without alternative, having chosen and won these elections, however, it was very hot for ukraine in other sports, as well as at the championship of europe in biathlon, we have success , plus today we are waiting for medals in the relays, and of course the astralian open, where this morning our ukrainian lyuda kinok played the finals of the mixed category, the doubles category and,
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unfortunately, she lost, but more on that later . andriy shevchenko, let's go then... let's start with how everything ended at this uaf congress, namely, of the 94 congress delegates, 93 in favor, one did not vote, this one is andriy shevchenko, so let's listen to how it happened. if there are no objections, i am putting the following proposal to the vote: elect andriy mykolayovych shevchenko, born in 1976, a citizen. of ukraine, hero of ukraine, president of the public union ukrainian football association. who is in favor of this proposal, please vote. who is for?
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according to the vote count. 93 for, against. zero, zero abstained, did not participate in the vote - one. thank you, colleagues, the decision has been made, i congratulate andrii mykolayovych on being elected president of the ukrainian football association. well, we congratulate andrii mykolayovych on his election and we look forward to seeing what is truly possible in him it will be possible to change something, improve your expectations and this analysis. without this unified vote? well, what preceded it, we analyzed it for a long time, that in reality it cannot be that way, that the elections have no alternative in such a football country, a big country, which is ukraine, and everything was done, sharpened for andrii shevchenko to become the president, we see that no one was even against it and no one refrained, so it's very difficult
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to talk about something now, well, time will tell, of course it's beautiful. the tour was completed in ukraine, which was there even before that, which gave great results at various levels, well, again, immediately after andriy shevchenko came, he presented his program, presented his, let's say, assistants, who became vice presidents , well , plus we know that he gave up legendary former vice presidents, such as oleg blakhin, who, by the way, were also at the congress. how is igor bilanov, how is anatoliy demyanenko, oleksiy mykhalychenko, they are all now retired, oleg protasov, and now andrii shevchenko has a completely new team, and it is very difficult to say what to expect from him, from the functionary, and from those who have now come to the position and those who have him, well, support, let's say, his team. well, look, now we have this new,
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well, new leadership, this is andriy shevchenko, the president, the first one. this is the president, and here is the biggest question for him, this is pavlo boychuk, a person who does not even google, there is only one thing about him, that he was acting director artem sil, he is not even were allowed in, were not recognized at the pass. ihor hryshchenko, the general secretary, well, he is an experienced lawyer, worked at af, as well as oleksandr shevchenko, the vice president, he was expected to be, and serhiy rebrov, you see, the coach of the national team, the vice president, well, let's say, a person in football is not new and experienced. this is how the biggest questions arise about the fact that pavlo boychuk, they say that he was a lawyer of andriy shevchenko, he is about the same age as them, and this person, really, will he be such a gray cardinal or something, will he be just to help
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sort out some legal issues there, because one of the first such tasks of shevchenko is to conduct an audit there within two years. the results of this audit will be known, although i think all the previous presidents of the uaf conducted the audit there and there were always questions, because we remember that there was a national team base built in gorenychy, the construction was canceled, and andriy pavelko also presented two or three years ago the construction of this base in knyazhychy also stalled, we always had such questions, there was a hat trick program, some money was allocated, they had to build a lot of fields, the conkov was supposed to do it, but somehow everything went quiet, so... it is definitely needed, well, andriy shevchenko constantly talks about the fact that he is in contact with the leading football associations, especially those he knows personally, with whom he played during his... time there, crossed paths during his career, there is no doubt that the banner is cool for ukrainian football, that andriy shevchenko is a legend, it just so happens that he wanted, said, i want, well, because of people those close to
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the president's office, directly to the people, who work there, leading this structure, he wanted, he became it, and we see that this moment, that he is completely controlled by the office of the president, that there will be no alternative opinion, the only... club that now he so boldly, truly expresses his position, this is poltava vorsla, other clubs on the sidelines say that it is impossible to be like this, and that it was necessary to hire more professional people for these positions, it is more ridiculous to talk about their goals there , about his program, about that there, about the strategy development of ukrainian football, but everything is still behind the scenes, everything is not yet clear, how it is done, yes, and those faces that we see, well, again, mr. baychuk is absolutely not a football person, just that he is a friend of andriy shevchenko, oleksandr shevchenko, well, he heads the lviv football association, and the last name is the same, maybe that contributed to the fact
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that he is now also in the team. serhiy rybrov was a good football player, by the way, he started well in horlovka, he was seen in shakhtar, then invited to dynamo, in the ukrainian national team, has already become a real star. now he is trying to work as a coach, but the fact that he is now the vice president is, after all, a completely different thing. we are talking about management, we are talking now about the transportation of the functionary, and if we were to connect it with the coaching activities of the national team, it is very difficult to say, besides, he is extremely rare, like andriy shevchenko himself, they are in ukraine, here you need to be directly inside and constantly well, that is, to have influence by being in ukraine, and serhiy rebrov, andriy shevchenko in ukraine there, well, it happens there from a full year, maybe 5% of the time at most, and the same goes for the performance. therefore, it is very difficult to say the logic used by this new team and andriy shevchenko directly, probably the only one who is the secretary general, ihor
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hryshchenko, who has worked for a long time in the federation, at first, now in the association, probably the greatest responsibility and work will fall on his shoulders , and this unanimity surprises me a lot, because i remember so, i remembered the elections for the president of uefa, when hryhoriy surkis was in uefa and... they were choosing between johanson and platini, and surkis openly supported johanson , platini won, and vice versa, platini respected those who voted against him, spoke up because he understood that these are people, well, they have their own opinion and their visions, so let's connect vice president oleg lysak vorskli poltava region, which, let's say , vorskla poltava caused a stir before the congress because it left the association of the poltava region, and mr. oleg, good afternoon, tell me a little... why did you do this? good afternoon, well, the motivation is quite simple, we, as soon as we started, this story began,
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we stated our position in principle, it is also quite clear, first of all, everything should be logical, both from the point of view of the law, and from the point of view of what we are doing all this for, again... such, well, we we are the largest in the region, we invest the most in the development of football, we have a classic club with a balanced, with a balanced children's school, a women's team, a men's team, well , well, no conversations, sorry, no such, you know, er, dialogue, we, we didn't see, well, again, maybe... maybe something will change, since people are new, it takes time for all that, but i think that from the same month of november there was enough time to get in touch, talk and define
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positions, believe me, well, i think that everyone in kyiv should also understand, that in our country it is not possible only on millionaires there or in lviv or in kyiv there, roughly speaking, the football of all ukraine kryvyi rih, like sumy, like chernihiv, where you can’t get everything, there are cities like poltava, how football players were brought up, and enough talent was found and all the boys played and in the champions league, and in the national team of ukraine, again, the clubs are basic for the training of players of the national team of ukraine, so you know, i would like respect. in addition, well, first of all, to those people who invest in football, and believe me, not a lot of money, secondly, of course, you want, well, an understanding of where we
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are going, and... what we are for we do all this, that is why such decisions were made, again, i personally know many of those people who are currently represented in the executive committee, of course there are andriy mykolayovych and serhii stanislavich, a lot has been done for ukrainian football in general, as football players , of course, we want changes, there are many questions, we don’t want to repeat them, anyway... and the same, the questions remain, you know, people change, the question remains, that’s why well, let's see to what extent there will be, there will be changes that we are all talking about, mr. oleg, i want to say that you were probably called and the image disappeared, if it is possible to restore it, and the next question is, andriy shevchenko traveled around the regions there , met with the leaders of the association, that's what he had a meeting with the poltava leaders of the poltava association, sorry,
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something... there is a communication problem, so i can only do it in audio, so we, we, i, being also the vice president of the football association of the poltava region, well, again we didn't see anything, i don't want it to be, you know , perceived by the football community as a criticism there or something, well, we didn't see anything at all, from the beginning of our position stated in upl and until... until the last day before the vote, we still don't want to, you know, but as they say, they told everyone to hang themselves and we went and hanged ourselves, all together, yes, we want it to be a dialogue, an open dialogue, so that there is work, that there is an understanding of where this football will go, still respect for what we do, and for more than a dozen years, especially in to the poltava region, i say again, we
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are the largest... social project of the poltava region, well, it was possible to find, i don't know how other regions, yes, maybe someone had a conversation, maybe they didn't want to work with us because of our position to communicate, but still there is no one in polt in the poltava region who would contribute such funds and it would be an opportunity to invest such funds in football, so i want respect, and still i think that the new leaders will find time to communicate, to... put points, as it were , for the purpose, we are ready for constructive, both dialogue and constructive critics , because again, we understand that without an alternative opinion, without such, you know, without a critical approach, there can be no development, it definitely cannot happen, we all have to understand this in the country, and this does not apply only to football, so yes, until we saw nothing but what we were offered
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at the congress. mr. oleg, then let's ask some club questions. viktor skrypnyk is no longer a coach, dolgansky, this is already the final decision, will prepare the team and train in the second round. i have one dream, i started thinking about it recently. i would really like to find a coach for vorsk for the next 15-10 years. and with that in mind. the experience that serhiy mykolayovych has, taking into account his attitude to the club, taking into account how he worked with the same goalkeepers, we, i thank konstantin zhivagaa, believe me, if it weren't for vorskyi's support, i already think that the football stadium in poltava would be carved with birches, that's why such a decision was made, we trusted, trust is complete, i hope, i know that sergey mykolayovych must not let us down.
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as not only the managers of the club there, yes, but in general and the entire football poltava region, so we hope that he will succeed on this path, of course it will be difficult for him, of course he will need the support of not only the club, but also the fans, i i am asking everyone to send as much as possible, you know positive vibes and to make it look normal , we will do our best from our side. in order for the team to progress, for the youth to grow and for serhiy mykolayovych and his staff and the entire team and club to succeed. also, the question is the following: vorszka fans are interested, if the transfer market is to be believed, the contracts of stepaniuk, visenko, yakuba and other players there expire in the summer.
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