the situation will come to the house of representatives, tell me, mr. oleksandr, here lesya says that we need to ask you about it, not a single serious american publication, none at all, from the new york times to fox news, does not say a single word about any serious conflict between the presidential administration biden and the city authorities in texas, urban lunatics, of which there are always enough in ukraine, and what kind of impression are read only on russian telegram channels or on russian tv, and these are literally overflowing with news? revolution in america, america is splitting, the third civil war, and what to do with people who do not understand what information hygiene is, that there is no information in telegram channels, that information is verified news, that this is what is happening between the american administration and texas local authorities, that requires such a feverish reaction in propaganda channels? well, there is, there is, there is a problem, there is a problem, which is that there is a different vision. regarding the fight against

illegal migration of republicans and democrats, well, it seems, what we have already talked about, what is brewing, there are those parties come to some kind of compromise, but there is also the issue of southern states that really suffer from illegal migration, well, if the numbers are correct, which they are talking about, then only in december , 225. illegal migrants entered the united states through the south, in just one year, about 3 million, that is, it is a difficult question , what to place, and these illegal migrants are mainly placed in the southern states, it is very difficult to place them, and we already know that texas transports these migrants by buses to the northern states, they have already used aviation, so if there is a question. but of course there are people

who are making a sensation out of it, who are making a public propaganda policy out of it, no, i am sure that america is very strong, america has experienced crises more than once in the past, and it must cope with this crisis, that is , to hope that violence is the end of the world, it is either people who are not competent and do not fully understand the situation, or those who specially. play with such statements in order to serve their specific interests, including me i am absolutely convinced that the propaganda of the russian federation, which has proven its power more than once in america and europe, is actively working, and the russian, russian media, or rather russian propagandists, are the ones who are pumping out this news, what goal are they pursuing, it is for their the consumer, or is it... and it is calculated

on their consumer and the ukrainians, in order to make them nervous one more time, to make them worry, because the ukrainians are all expecting this help from the united states. the ultimate goal of russia is to create a barrier for america and the west, in general, europe provided us with assistance. this is the goal of russia, the fact that, despite such a bravura tone... especially in the last months there, when he survived the crisis and when he fled from moscow from prigozhin, now he seems to have, at least outwardly, a second wind, and he wants to prove that russia is an absolutely huge potential, and this potential will never disappear, and that russia will win anyway, i'm sorry, but the situation is that russia... in my opinion, too, is

now in such a position that somewhere on the edge of their capabilities, and yes, if the war continues, russia will have, maybe even more problems than ukraine. and tell me, please, what do you think about this story about the so-called new strategy for helping ukraine, which the washington post published today? well, you know, it's sad, if this is how the situation will look, i want hope, i believe. that the washington post is a very serious publication, and as a rule, what they write is true, or at least some part of it, but in this situation i still hope that there may be a little journalistic addition, and i say once again that it is in the interests of the united states of america, as a world leader, as a leader of the democratic world, as a world leader in general, that ukraine did not lose and

ukraine won, that if, god forbid, something happens to ukraine, it will mean that america is losing its leadership. and it is not absolutely not in american interests. ukrainians usually do not follow the elections in the united states of america very closely, but those who are interested in international politics of course, they are worried about trump's success. explain in general how trump, with all his toxicity, still participates in the election and still benefits. the sympathies of many americans? well, first of all, based on the constitution of the united states and the laws that do not set any restrictions for a candidate for the position of president, and of course it can be in some others, well, it can’t, for sure in a number of

european countries it would be impossible, but but ex - president trump is going to the elections and is quite confident. but here i would like to say that it is not yet, does not mean that he is already elected president of the united states in the future, because today there are three candidates, and all of them still have the opportunity to become the next president, this is first of all the president, president biden, vice- the president , not the vice president, but ex-president trump and nikki haley, former governor of south carolina and us representative vaughn, i think that the fight will continue, and to say that there is no chance at all, it is also very early in nikki , so we will watch, we will to see how the situation will develop, and if

we talk about all these lawsuits, how serious they are in general from the point of view of the former american president's political prospects, but yesterday he lost the trial by a large margin, this was the main news all over the world. er, you know, they are serious, it will be a situation, well no, maybe not drastically, but to some extent depending on what the supreme court of the united states decides on the colorado court decision, banning trump from participating in the maine primaries, where is it, so the vice-governor of the state. decided whether the secretary of state, let's say the secretary of state of the state, decided to keep trump from the republican primary, and if the supreme court rules in favor of the state of florida and the state of maine, then a slightly new situation will arise

, especially if there are other lawsuits trump the american voter will lose, then, too, at least a part of it, even those who are going now. according to ex-president trump, they will make for themselves, at least in part, will draw conclusions, and these conclusions will always be in favor ex-president trump. nikki haley for ukraine, as it will be. regarding trump, we understand that, for example, if putin is waiting for trump's victory, then he expects that trump will not be favorable to ukraine, and we, in principle, remember his statements. what kind of person is president biden, we already are in principle. saw nikki haley, if she wins, what can ukraine expect? i think that for ukraine, it will be very good. nicky hale is a very experienced and competent politician, she has passed the stage or there, say, passed the post of governor

state, and most importantly, she was the us representative to the un. representative of the usa. the un is a person who keeps a pulse, or rather, a hand on the pulse of all events in the world, and thus she is very well versed in international politics, understands how far the struggle between the democratic world and dictatorial regimes is going today, in particular, well, she understands in general american interest, and in this context understands. that ukraine is an american interest, and the victory of ukraine is one hundred percent in the war against russia one hundred percent in the interests of the united states states themselves as a country, as well as a world leader, and in general as a world democracy,

that's why she constantly talks about it, she is really very competent in foreign policy, just perfectly. and it will certainly be very good for us, as far as ex-president trump is concerned, here too, if, well, no, you don't need to sprinkle your head. ashes, and the situation that mr. vitaliy spoke about a few days ago is possible, that trump, when he was president, and when champagne was drunk in moscow, when he came to power, then this, well, it's champagne, let's say yes, it is sour for moscow, that is, here too, i am not saying that he will necessarily stand for ukraine there 100%, but i cannot say either. and that he, if ukraine as an interest for

him, ceases to exist, that is, he is a rather original, specific person, and already, if it happens that he becomes the president, it will become clear in time what kind of policy to expect from him, in general , going to the presidential elections and sitting in the chair of the president of the united states of america, from which the whole world can be seen, are two different things. in principle, and about what trump may want to negotiate with putin , but realistically speaking, he has already negotiated with various dictators, such as kimchanin, it did not lead to anything, he has a lot of experience that such agreements are not serious enough, well, i share your opinion , i recently heard your speech and i completely share your opinion that if there is somewhere on the third day, let's say they will not be able to agree on some issue, but it will not work 100%. because putin is there, well, as they say in the ukrainian forces, putin is shunned,

shunned means that he knows his position, no taking into account any logic, trump can also explode and demonstrate his strength, and the strength of the united states of america against the strength of russia is, you know, why not, you can’t compare, and you more, if you take the entire democratic world, the advantage is somewhere about 20 to one. that's why, well, let's live, as they say, we'll see, we'll see, it will be clear later who will still enter the presidential race from the republicans, so rather it will be all trump, but there is no such guarantee that i think there are chances and niki heli , today trump is 20, 32 delegates, and mickey cologne has 17 delegates, all will have to be counted. 225, if i am not mistaken, delegates for that, or rather, it will be necessary to get a majority of 1220

deputies in order to decide the issue of nomination from the republican party, what are the pain points now, what are the problems of americans now, what, what is america living now? well , unfortunately, today's america is divided, very strongly, polar by... politics, and it can be seen from this race, from the previous races, and this is this this dividing line , unfortunately, it is not decreasing, at least not is decreasing, i don't want to say that it is increasing there radically, but at least it is not decreasing, but america lives with such worries, domestic politics has always been number one in america, and i think that today it remains number one, and it is about.. about such issues as employment, i.e. employment, wages

, social packages, migration, illegal migration, i.e. education is very important, and other issues of internal life, of course, which will also play a role, and now because of russia has attacked... and since there is actually a war between dictatorships and democracy, the question of foreign policy will also be important, and this also worries the americans, but above all , stupid politics, of course. thank you, mr. oleksandr, oleksandr motsyk, diplomat, ambassador of ukraine to the united states in 2010-2015 . i want to finally tell you that i finally found a great article in the washington post that is related to this border crisis. yes, i can finally do everything. to explain based on the sources, well, that's why that since there were no serious sources, i didn't even want to talk about it, but it

needs to be talked about to put an end to it, so every american state has its own national guard, uh, this national guard carries out the orders of the governor of the state, no the president of the united states, it's a federal state, when at one time president george bush wanted to bring the federal national guard into new orleans to prevent, excuse me, the army, the armed forces to prevent... the post-flood problems that were there huge, he waited a long time for the approval of the state governor, when the state governor finally agreed, the mayor of new orleans told the president of the united states that she did not allow the establishment. military unit and they did not enter en masse, what was president bush able to do, is to introduce the military there without the right to use weapons and without weapons at all, this is the united states, it looks like something unreal for ukraine, but because we are not a federal state, it is absolutely normal , why don't we we should live like this, we don't have federal lands and states - it's not easy the federation is a union of states united into one

, although the national guard, as you understand , during the flood of the new real acted absolutely calmly and no one had any questions, now the governor. the state of texas, uh, is asking its national guard, it's doing it, to build stronger barriers on the border with mexico, the federal government is against it, it's sued the supreme court, the supreme court said the national guard can't do that in the state , the governor of the state does not pay attention to this, he says, in we have problems with you here, but while you are scratching your head, the governor was supported by 24 governors of other states. what should he do, and 26 didn't support it, and all, so american politicians, the republicans of the day say, here you have a civil war, they draw maps, now what can the president of the united states do, he can federalize the national guard, uh, what that means he can order the texas national guard to obey the president of the united states, the last time this was in 1957,

when president dwight dwight eisenhower submitted. the national guard, i think i 'll even try to check it now, i think it was in the state of iowa, if i'm not mistaken, i read it here too, so what were the circumstances, these were the circumstances, blacks were allowed there students, this is a famous story, to go to a white school for the first time, uh, the national guard of this state did not allow it, it did not let them go there. enter at the behest of the governor of the state, and then the president of the united states, duitzenhower announced the federalization of the national guard in this state so that it could not carry out the orders of the governor, and thus these students could go to their place of study, this is a dramatic story, feature films were made about it, there was no more of this, here are the following, now you can't to say that this

is such a serious crisis, uh, for president... biden to take such an unprecedented step, the more he seeks an agreement with republicans on immigration policy, but even if you imagine the most dramatic, president biden would issue an executive order, well, it will work, so the national guard in texas will stop building these border fences , that will be the end of it, there will be no civil war, there will be no conflict, simply biden, as a person who, like any american president, respects federalist principles, because it is likely that on the eve of the elections , such radical steps will not be taken. for this not only worsens his relations there, say with the administration of texas or with the southern states, in principle with the very idea of ​​federal rights, especially in a situation where as many as 24 states, they in one way or another support these actions of the texas governor, that's all, but for this you need to understand

american federalism, if you look at american federalism through ukrainian eyes, then it's some kind of guard. so what, does this mean that there could be some guard in the zaporizhzhia region that could build something? no, this cannot be, so let's not make it up, let's talk with vasyl baudlar, another experienced ukrainian diplomat, the current ambassador of ukraine in the republic of turkey, mr. vasyl , we are glad to see you, good evening, good evening, mr. vasyl, let's start with the decision of the president of turkey, recep tayyip erdogan, to sign this decision of the big ones on... absolutely expected and prepared for this both in washington and in ankara, of course, there were negotiations, and of course the negotiations were not directly with sweden, they finished with sweden last year, and the whole dialogue continued between

washington and ankara, and it was clear what the price of this issue was, this issue was related to the f-16. with the removal of restrictions that exist, regarding turkey after the purchase of the s-400 , so here it is as absolutely, if all the people who make decisions regarding the security of turkey absolutely understood that this decision will be made sooner or later, and the speculations that have been swirling around can be considered simply as one of the means of pressure in order for this decision to be faster than the one made later, now the press generally... says that the chairman of the committee on foreign affairs of the parliament relied on such a decision, and until recently the vice president of turkey, foat okttai, allegedly convinced erdogan in that to make the most of this situation and to solve several key problems that turkey was facing in relations with its

western allies, and primarily it concerned the military-industrial complex and the strengthening of defense capabilities, as well as the lifting of restrictions that were, for example, from canada or from of the united states, regarding the supply of not only the f-16, but many parts of the military. and techniques and equipment, for example, the same cameras for bairaktars or special avionics facilities there, that is, we simply do not know much about it, because the western press does not write about it, here they talk about it both on the sidelines and openly. and what is said about the fact that the meeting with the president of iran took place, and what is said about the planned meeting with putin erdogan. and look, here is the unity and struggle of opposites, as we were once told, that is , on the one hand, there is a very strong competition, and

even opposition to a certain extent between turkey and iran in the region, because they have serious differences, as in the caucasus, in syria , there is a significant share of attacks by the so-called kurdish workers' party from the side, from the territory of iran to the territory of turkey. is disagreements regarding energy policy and certain problems that cannot always be solved the way ankara wants, for example, but on the other hand, turkey perfectly understands that with such a neighbor as iran you need to keep in touch, you need to solve problems, and one of the examples is for example, we do not see this in general, but there was also a visit by the head of the turkish intelligence or security services. ibrahim kalina to iraq, parallel to the time when the president of iran was in antar, and there were also talks and negotiations about counter-terrorist actions and about the possibilities

of strengthening energy cooperation, and kalin met separately with the shia and sunni parts of iraqi society, of course trying to strengthen turkey's influence in this country, because in the north , precisely in... the region controlled by this kurdish regional administration, there are turkish the troops that are actually fighting, or actually a mini-war with units of the kurdish workers' party, so there are many problems, and of course the topic of gaza, the topic of israel, it was one of the publicly dominant ones, because here there is also not only a common position condemning israel's actions, but also certain differences. interpretation of the situation and even mutual accusations, who is doing more to support palestine, who is doing less, so there is also an attempt to interact and solve

problems, but there are also issues related to differences in interpretation and what specifically each of those governments, i understand correctly that it is precisely the turkish iraqi kurdistan that turkey can be said to ignore in its contacts. no, no, on the contrary, precisely with iraqi kurdistan they have a lot good relations, and part of the oil just comes from the territory of this part of iraq, as they call it the administration of northern iraq, kurdistan - the word is almost forbidden here, that is, it is a bad tone to talk about the word kurdistan in communication with the turkish authorities or eh, but actually the interaction with... barzani with his government is completely open and it is so fruitful, because, if you know, barzani himself, he

professes more such right-wing views, and the pkk or the workers' party of kurdistan are leftists, which are also opposed within the kursk community, are also opposed to the stock market, so these are two different currents, and of course, each of them forms its policy in the region, depending on its interests, of course, this administration, it is important to trade its oil resources and to have good relations with official ankara. what can erdogan and putin talk about on february 12? wow, the spectrum is such that we can, as they say, only write out the issues of the agenda, of course, we react extremely sensitively to such contact, and this is absolutely normal, because... those who are friends or there try to communicate with our enemies, are always perceived emotionally, as those who try to change sides there, or do not find their benefit in

such communication. in fact, of course, turkey has its own interests, but in ankara they do not stop their efforts to find opportunities, as they say, to find peace in the region, to persuade in a certain way to return to the negotiating table, primarily russia, but they will also offer most likely us, and this topic always sounds and even according to the results of a recent telephone conversation with president zelenskyi, this was publicly voiced, although in fact the peculiarity... of the turkish side is that they do not offer any solutions of their own, they are only ready to provide assistance in order to create a certain atmosphere, to create logistical support, etc. the so-called facilitation , that is, to create the conditions for negotiations, they understand that this is a thin ice and offer some solutions of their own, er, knowing our rather strong position, the rather stubborn position of the aggressor country, er, so in this case...

it will be more about bilateral relations, i.e. here on the agenda first of all energy, these issues are related to trade in gas, oil, and nuclear energy in the launch of the first nuclear power plant in turkey, which, er, these issues are related to trade, with those are the questions that western countries ask ankara about preventing the circumvention of sanctions, er, and such situations happen from time to time. get into the media, and it causes quite a serious reaction here in turkey. in addition, of course, this is a problem of the region the south caucasus is syria, first of all, because it causes the most concern in ankara, because both the attacks on the eastern regions of turkey and the destabilization take place precisely from the territory of northern,

northern syria. this is especially true of the region controlled by the local kurds, the so-called ypg or syrian democratic forces, extremely irritating to ankara, and there have already been several attempts to launch another offensive there against this steric kurdish enclave in syria, and this is one such stumbling block in a possible communication with the assad regime, since already last year there were certain public discussions about the need to restore contacts between ankara and damascus, but so far this direction has not taken place, that is, no visits have taken place, although through the mediation of russia, as you know, there is an astana process, and it is mainly at the level of either development or the ministry of foreign affairs, such communication takes place to a certain extent, but assad insists on the withdrawal of turkish troops from the territory of syria, in return, turkey insists on the creation of a 30-kilometer zone security and is not going to withdraw its own. until

the problem with, as they believe, the threat of kurdish separatism from the territory of syria is solved. well, here is the question that should have been the first, actually le, after all, what is happening today between ankara and kyiv, mr. vasyl? an intense dialogue is ongoing between ankara and kyiv, and in order for us to have no illusions about ankara's contacts with other capitals that annoy us, including iran and russia, let's remember that. that there are also quite often representatives here of the united states, linkin was recently , he was here just a few days ago, the head of the foreign office in britain, there was a prime minister, from italy, and also our dialogue is developing, we are currently planning several important events, in the coming weeks we will be visiting some members of the government, i will not rush ahead with... disclosing

information that has not yet been made public, but we have already formed the agenda for this year, in principle, we ended last year on a positive note , both in terms of defense cooperation and trade - economic, we are growing, of course, not everything goes into the public space, and first of all, this concerns the request from ankara not to reveal all directions in the public space, because... in a certain way, i think vankari narrows their foreign policy maneuver, but cooperation is going on, and those directions, about which i have already publicly spoken about, and those areas that will be announced by the relevant managers, who are responsible for certain areas of their responsibility, i believe that this year we will have serious changes, er, that will be beneficial as defense capabilities, yes and...