president biden's request for 61.4 billion dollars, then the situation for ukraine will be difficult, uh, very difficult at the front, and from this, of course, uh, ukraine, first of all, will not win, it will lose, but europe will lose and the united states of america will lose, and then the world will really look at this whole situation, understand that the united states... is losing its leadership, so it will be very difficult, not easy, but if the question is asked categorically, whether we will have help or not , i am still inclined to the fact that we will have this help, for what the terms are, when we can get it, the terms are more complicated, as mr. vitaly just rightly said that there is... the position of the speaker

of the house of representatives, mike john johnson, of course, that this position of his was formed under the influence of ex-president trump, and that is the goal this position is obviously to continue to put pressure on the democrats to get some additional things regarding the issue of combating illegal migration, well... and as for ex-president trump, i think he will insist that the issue not be resolved as long as possible, if not to themselves elections, but i will repeat that the majority of republicans are in favor of giving aid, and it is in the interests of america, so in the end , reason and logic must work, and we must get this aid, so tell me, paneter, it is getting harder for me, it is obviously not going to to the next weeks, because next

week only the senate will come out with some text of the agreement, which was or is currently in the process of reaching a compromise, well, and then the situation in the house of representatives, tell me, mr. oleksandr, the donkey says that it should be asked of you, nothing serious american publications, none from the new york times to fox news, say a single word about any serious conflict between the administration. biden and the city authorities in texas, urban madmen, of whom there are always enough in ukraine, and whose impressions are read only by russian telegram channels or pro-russian tv, and these literally abound, they say that everything in america is a revolution, america is splitting, the third civil war , and what to do with people who do not understand what information hygiene is, what in telegram channels there is no information, that the information is verified news, that this is happening between the american administration and the texas local government, that... needs

such a feverish reaction in the propaganda channels? well, there is, there is, there is a problem, there is a problem, which consists in the fact that there is a different vision regarding the fight against illegal migration, republicans and democrats, well, as it seems, what we have already talked about, what is brewing there, those parties reach some kind of compromise, but there is also the question of the southern states, which really... suffer from illegal immigration migration, well, if the numbers are correct, which they are talking about, then only in december , 225,000 illegal migrants came to the united states through the south, about 3 million in just one year, that is, this is a difficult question, what to place, and these illegal migrants are mainly placed in the southern states, it is very difficult to place them, and we already know that... up to texas,

by buses, transports these migrants to the northern states, they have already allocated aviation, so if there are questions, but of course there are people , who make a sensation out of it, who are on it they do, well, some kind of public propaganda policy, no, i am sure that america is very strong, america has experienced crises more than once in the past, and it will definitely... cope with this crisis, that is, they hope that the violence will end of the world, it is either people who are not competent and do not fully understand the situation, or those who specially play along with such statements in order to serve their own specific interests, and i am absolutely convinced that he is actively working it is the propaganda of the russian federation, which has already proven its power more than once in america. in europe, and russia,

russian media, or rather, russian propagandists, those who are pumping this news, what goal are they pursuing, it is for their consumer. is it intended for their consumers and for the ukrainians, in order to make them nervous one more time, to make them worry, because the ukrainians are all expecting this help from the united states? the ultimate goal of russia is to create a barrier so that america and the west, in general, europe will help us. this is the goal of russia, the fact that, despite putin's tone, especially in the last months there, when he survived the crisis and when he fled from moscow from prigozhin, now he seems to have, at least outwardly, a second wind, and he wants to prove

that russia is an absolutely huge potential, and this potential is never it will disappear, and that russia will win anyway, i apologize , but the situation is that... as far as i am concerned , it is now in such a position that it is somewhere on the edge of its capabilities, and if the war continues, then in russia there may be more more of a problem than in ukraine. and tell me please, what do you think about this story about the so-called new aid strategy for ukraine that the washington post is reporting today? well, you know, it's sad, if this is how the situation will look, i want hope. i believe that the washington post is a very serious publication, and usually what they write has a place in life, or at least some part of it, but in this situation i still hope that there is maybe a little bit of journalism of some kind.

addendum, and uh, i say again that it is in the interests of the united states of america, as a world leader, as the leader of the democratic world , as the leader of the world in general, that... ukraine does not lose and ukraine wins, that if, god forbid, something happens to ukraine, it will mean that america loses this leadership, and that not absolutely not in american interests. ukrainians , of course, do not follow the elections in the united states of america very closely, but those who are interested in international politics are, of course, worried about... trump's successes, explain in general how trump, despite all his toxicity, still takes participation in elections and still enjoys the sympathy of many americans. well, first of all, based on the constitution of the united states

and the laws that do not set any restrictions for a candidate for the position of president, and of course. maybe in some others, well maybe not, for sure in a number of european countries it would be impossible, but ex-president trump is going to the elections and quite confidently, but here i would like to say that it is not yet, does not mean , that he is already elected president of the united states in the future, because today there are three candidates, that's all they still have the opportunity to become. the next president, it's first of all the president, vice president biden, vice president, not vice president, but ex-president trump, and nikki haley, former governor of south carolina and u.s. representative vaughn, i think the fight will

continue, and to say that there are no chances at all, it is also very early in nikhil, so we will watch, we will see how the situation will develop. and if we talk about all these court processes, how serious are they in general from a political point of view the prospects of the former american president, but yesterday he lost the process by a large margin, this was the main news all over the world, you know, they are serious, it will be a situation, well, it is not possible, not radically, but to a certain extent, it depends on what will be decided us supreme court by trial. its decision in the state of colorado to ban trump from participating in the primaries and in the state of maine , where it means that the lieutenant governor of the state decided whether the secretary of state, let's say, the secretary of state of the state decided not to allow trump

to participate in the republican primary, and if the supreme the court will decide in favor of the state of florida and the state of maine, then it is guilty. not a new situation , especially if there are other lawsuits where trump loses, then, too, the american voter, at least a part of him, even those... who now follow ex-president trump, they will do for themselves, at least a part, will draw conclusions, and these conclusions will always be in favor of ex-president trump. nikki haley for ukraine, as it will be, about trump, we understand that, for example, if putin expects trump to win, then he expects that trump will not supporters of ukraine, and we, in principle, remember his statements. what kind of president is biden? in principle, we have already seen nikki haley, if she wins, what can ukraine expect? i think that it will be

very good for ukraine. nicky hale is a very experienced and competent politician, she's been through a stage or thereabouts, like a state governor, and very importantly, she's been a us representative to the united nations. the representative of the united states of the united nations is a person who keeps a pulse, or rather, a finger on the pulse of all events in the world, and she is like that is very well versed in international politics, he understands the extent of the struggle between the democratic world and dictatorial regimes, in particular, and in general, he understands the american interest, and in this. i understand that ukraine is an american interest, and

the victory of ukraine in the war against russia is 100% in the interests of the united states, itself, as a country, as a world leader, and in general as a world democracy , that's why she constantly talks about it, she is really very competent in foreign policy. just perfect and it will certainly be very good for us , as far as ex-president trump is concerned, here too , if, well, no, it is not necessary to sprinkle his head with ashes, and here the situation that mr. vitaly talked about a few days ago is possible, that trump, when he was president, and when they drank champagne in moscow, when he came to power, then this, well... champagne, let's say, soured for moscow, that is, here too, i'm not

saying that he necessarily will stand there 100% for ukraine, but i can't say that he if ukraine ceases to exist for him as an interest, that is, he is a rather original, specific person, and already, if it happens that he becomes the president, it will become clear in time what kind of policy to expect from him, in general, uh, uh, going to the elections presidential and sitting in the chair of the president of the united states of america, from which the whole world can be seen, are two different things. and in principle, what can trump want to agree on with putin, but realistically speaking, well, he also agreed with various dictators, such as kimchanin, no to what it did not lead, he has a lot of experience that such arrangements are not serious enough. well, i share your opinion, i heard yours recently. your speech and i completely share your opinion that if

on the third day there, let's say, they will not be able to agree on some issue, but will not succeed 100%, because putin has, well, as they say in the ukrainian forces, putin is furious , this means that he will start his position, regardless of any logic, then trump can also explode and demonstrate his strength. and the power of the united states of america against russia's forces are, you know, no, no, no, you can't compare, and even more so, if you take the entire democratic world, the advantage is somewhere around 20 to one, that's why, well, let's live, as they say, we'll see, we'll see, it will be clear later , who will still enter the presidential race from the republicans, and more likely it will be all trump, but there is no guarantee that ... i think there are chances for nikki haley, as of today trump has 20, 32 delegates,

and nikki halney has 17 delegates, a total of 1,225 will be needed, if i am not mistaken, delegates for that, most likely get a majority of 1220 deputies e to decide the issue of nomination from the republican party, what are the pain points now, what are they now? americans have problems, what, what is the present america living now? well , unfortunately, today's america is divided, very strongly, polar by...politics, and it can be seen from the races of these, from the races of the previous ones, and this, this, this, this dividing line , unfortunately, it is not decreasing, at least it does not decrease, i don’t want to say that it increases dramatically there, but at least it does not decrease, well, america lives like concerns, domestic politics has always

been number one in america, and i think it remains number one today. and we are talking about such issues as employment, i.e. employment, er, there are wages, social packages, but not migration, illegal migration, that is, education is very important, and other issues of internal life, of course, which also play a certain role will play out, and now in connection with the fact that russia has... attacked ukraine and that there is actually a war between dictatorships and democracy, the issue of foreign policy will also be important, and this also worries the americans, but first of all domestic politics, of course. thank you, mr. oleksandr, oleksandr motsyk, diplomat, ambassador of ukraine to the united states in 2010-2015 . i want to tell you, finally, that i finally found a

large publication in the washington post newspaper, which is related to this crisis on the border. to explain everything based on the sources, huh, because since there were no serious sources, i didn’t even want to talk about it, but it needs to be talked about to put an end to it , so in every american the state has its national guard, this national guard carries out the orders of the governor of the state, not the president of the united states, it is a federal state, when at one time president george bush wanted to introduce the national guard federal to new orleans to prevent, and i apologize to the army weapons. forces to prevent problems after the flood, which was huge there, he waited a long time for the approval of the governor of the state, when the governor of the state finally agreed, the mayor of new orleans replied to the president of the united states that she does not allow to start as a military parts and they did not enter en masse , what president bush was able to do, is to introduce to the military without the right to use weapons, without weapons at all, this is the united states, it

looks like this, something unreal for ukraine, not this, because we are not a federal state , it's absolutely normal, why should we... live like this, we don't have federal lands, and the states are not just a federation, it's a union of states united into one, although the national guard, as you understand, during behaviors in the new era, they acted absolutely calmly and did not there was no question, now the governor of texas, uh, is asking his national guard, what he's doing is to put up stronger fences on the border with mexico, the federal government is against it, he's sued the supreme court, the supreme court said that the national guard... can't do that in the state, uh, the governor of the state doesn't pay attention to it, he says: you, we have problems here, but you are there to worry, the governor was supported by 24 state governors, others, they said , let him do, and 26 not supported, and all, that means, american politicians, republicans, jokingly say, here you have a civil war, draw maps, now next, what can the president

of the united states do, he can federalize the national guard, uh, what does this mean, he can.. .order to make the texas national guard subservient to the president of the united states, the last time it was in 1957 when president dwight eisenhower subjugated the national guard, i think i'll even try to check it now, i think it was in the state iowa, if i'm not mistaken, i read it here too, so what were the circumstances, it was such circumstances, there... to black students, it's a famous story, to go to a white school for the first time, uh, the national guard of this state to this wouldn't be allowed, she wouldn't let them in there by order of the governor of the state, and then the president of the united states, dwight eisenhower, announced the federalization

of the national guard in that state so that they couldn't carry out the governor's orders, and so these students were able to get through. in place of his studies, this is a dramatic story , feature films were made about it, there was no more of this, here are the next ones, now it cannot be said that this is such a serious crisis, ugh, for president biden to resort to such an unprecedented step, the more he is looking for an agreement with the republicans on migration policy, but even if you imagine the most dramatic, president biden will pass such an order, well, it will, so the national guard in texas will stop building these border fences, and that will be the end of it. there won't be any civil war, there won't be any conflict, just biden, as a person who, like any american president, respects federalist principles, because it probably won't come to that on the eve of the primaries. radical steps, because it not only worsens his relations there, let's say with the administration of texas or with the southern states, in principle with the very idea of ​​federal rights, especially in a situation when

as many as 24 states, they somehow support these actions of the texas governor, that's all, but for this you need to understand american federalism, if you look at american federalism through ukrainian eyes, then how is it some kind of... guard, that's what, it means that there could be some kind of guard in the zaporizhzhia region, which could to build something? no, this cannot be, so let's not make things up, we'd better talk to vasyl bodnar, another experienced ukrainian diplomat, current ambassador of ukraine to the republic of turkey, mr. vasyl, nice to see you, good evening, good evening, sir vasyl, let's start with the decision of the president of turkey, recep tayyip erdogan, to sign this decision. of the great national assembly of turkey, about the accession of sweden to nato, what do you think is the expected result of this whole story? absolutely expected,

and washington and ankara were preparing for this, of course negotiations were held and of course the negotiations were not directly with sweden, they finished sweden last year, and the whole dialogue continued between washington and ankara and it was clear what the price of this issue was, this the question was related. on the z-16 with the lifting of restrictions that exist for turkey after the purchase of the s-46. therefore, here it is as if all the people who make decisions about the security of turkey absolutely understood that this decision will be made sooner or later, and the speculations that have been going around can be seen simply as one of the means of pressure for this decision to be sooner than later accepted. now at all. the press began to say that the chairman of the committee in the foreign parliamentary affairs, and until recently

the vice president of turkey, foat oktay, who allegedly convinced erdogan to make the most of this situation and solve several key problems that turkey was facing in relations with its western allies, and above all it concerned the military-industrial complex and strengthening of defense. and also the removal of restrictions, which were , for example, on the part of canada or on the part of the united states, on the supply of not only the f-16, but many parts of military equipment and equipment, for example, the same cameras for bairaktars or special avionics means there, that is, we simply do not know much about it, because the western press does not write about it, they talk about it here and on the sidelines. frank and what is said about the fact that the meeting with the president of iran took place, and what is said about the

planned meeting with putin, erdogan? and look, here, the unity and struggle of opposites, as they once said in our country, that is , on the one hand, there is a very strong competition, and even opposition to a certain extent, between turkey and iran in the region, because they are serious. disagreements, as in the caucasus, in syria, there is a significant share of attacks by the so-called kurdish workers' party from the side, from the territory of iran to the territory of turkey, there are disagreements regarding energy policy, and certain problems that cannot always be resolved in the way that ankara wants, for example, but on the other hand, turkey perfectly understands that with such a neighbor as iran it is necessary to keep... it is necessary to solve problems in this way, and one of the examples, for example, we do not see this in general, but there was also a visit of the head of the turkish intelligence

or security service, ibrahim kalina to iraq, parallel to the time when president irano was in antar, and there were also talks and negotiations about counter-terrorist actions and about the possibilities of strengthening energy cooperation, and kalin met with... separately with the shiite and sunni part of iraqi society, of course, trying to strengthen the influences of turkey in this country, because in the north, precisely in the region controlled by this kurdish regional administration, there are turkish troops who are actually conducting combat operations or actually a mini-war with units of the kurdish workers' party, therefore, there are many problems and... of course, the topic of gaza, the topic of israel, it was one of the publicly dominant ones, since there is not only a common position in condemning israel's actions,

but also... certain differences in the interpretation of the situation and even mutual accusations, who who does more to support palestine, who does less, so there is also an attempt to interact and solve problems, but there are also issues related to differences in interpretation and what exactly each of those governments is doing, well, i'm right i understand that exactly turkish iraqi kurdistan, turkish can be said igno. in your contacts? no , no, on the contrary , they have very good relations with iraqi kurdistan, and part of the oil just comes from the territory of this, well , iraqi, i call it, the administration of northern iraq, kurdistan - the word is almost forbidden here, that is, it is a bad tone to talk about the word kurdistan in communication with the turkish authorities or media, but in fact just

in... the event with barzani and with his government is completely open and it is so fruitful, because, if you know, barzani himself, he professes more such right-wing views, and the pkk, or the workers' party of kurdistan, are leftists who also oppose this within the kurdish community, also oppose berzani, so these are two different currents, and of course, each of them forms its own policy in... region depending on its interests, of course, this administration believes it is important to trade for its oil resources and have good relations with official ankara. what can erdogan and putin talk about on february 12? wow, the spectrum is such that we can, as they say, only write out issues of the agenda, of course, we react extremely sensitively to

such contact, and this is absolutely normal. because those who are friends or there try to communicate with our enemies are always perceived emotionally as those who try to change sides there or not to find their own benefit in such communication, in fact, turkey of course has its own interests, but ankara does not stop its efforts to find opportunities, as they say, to find peace in the region , to persuade in a certain way to return to the negotiating table. primarily russia, but also will also most likely offer us, and this topic always sounds, even according to the results of the recent telephone conversation with president zelensky, this was publicly voiced, although in fact the peculiarity of the turkish side is that they do not offer any solutions of their own, they are only ready to provide assistance to to create a certain atmosphere, to create logistical support and so-called facilitation, i.e. to create conditions for negotiations, they

understand... that this is thin ice and to offer some of their own solutions, knowing that they have a strong enough our position, rather stubborn position of the aggressor country, er, so in this case we will talk more about bilateral relations, i.e. here on the agenda first of all energy, these issues are related to trade in gas, oil, and nuclear energy in the launch of the first nuclear power plants in turkey by ako. these issues are related to trade, to those questions that western countries ask ankara about preventing the circumvention of sanctions, and such situations from time to time fall into the media, and this causes quite serious reaction here in turkey, besides, of course, this is a problem of the region, this is also the south caucasus, this is syria, first of all, because this is the most

worrying. in ankara, because attacks on the eastern regions of turkey and destabilization are taking place mostly from the territory of northern northern syria, especially this applies to the region controlled by the local kurds, the so-called ypg or the syrian democratic forces, extremely annoying ankara , and there have already been several attempts to start another attack on this syrian kurdish an enclave in syria. and this is one of those stumbling blocks in possible communication with the assad regime, since already last year there were certain such public discussions about the need to restore contacts between ankara and damascus, but so far this direction has not taken place, that is, no visits have taken place, although russia's mediation, you know, there's the astana process, and it's basically at the level or...