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and the snow, oh, and the sun was voracious like locusts , the enemy moscow swarm, the snow was black, red, the day was glorious in the country, we fought until the last fell a young man in a woolen scarf, we returned and as we promised you too, let's talk about... a sufficiently high-profile and important international meeting on a very tense part of the diplomatic front, it exists like that, because if the hungarian neo-nazi laszlo torotskaya comes out on the eve of the official meetings, then he says that we will divide everything quickly, the romanians will take something there, and we will immediately take the rest from transcarpathia, we have already mentioned this, not surprisingly, the ex-mayor and deputy. viktor
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baloga decided to answer, i think this is poetry, transcarpathian folk poetry in response to laszlo torodskaya. a few words to another hungarian slob, who dreams of joining transcarpathia to hungary. first , ukraine will not fall, don't even dream. second, transcarpathia was and will be ukrainian, just shut up. third, you europeans are morons if you still think such archaic things categories. fourth, your imperial phantom pains reached not only us, but also the majority of europeans. you'll figure it out sooner or later. fifth. because of your short-sighted policy, soon there will be no one to study in hungarian classes in transcarpathia, wrote balogo on his facebook. on the meeting beautiful. and despite all this, the minister of foreign affairs of hungary péter szijártó did come to uzhhorod, either he didn't read the post, or he said something else, maybe. no, he didn't say anything, but probably his position is the same as torotskaya's. and what, and should meet
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today sierto with kuleba and yermak, and what they should talk about, should in particular plan, organize the future meeting between zelenskyi and... orban, it is hard to imagine that something like this will happen, how it can happen, we will ask pavel klimkin, diplomat of the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in the 14th-19th years. mr. pavle, we welcome you to our air. greetings to all, friends. mr. pavle, how could it all look like today, here are your predictions for the current meeting in uzhhorod, what the results might be, and the following meeting zelensky and orban. what to expect from her? we remember those shots in argentina, will it be a repeat or something a little more productive? well, what is happening in argentina is difficult to repeat in other xerographic sites, if in all seriousness, of course, you have to
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take into account everything they say there, and all these radicals, marginals, too, and it is obvious that they do not say it somehow with a hook they are manipulated by someone, are they manipulated from inside budapest, are they manipulated from bucharest, are they manipulated from russia, most likely both other, in what way, well, all this can be unearthed , the question is that that meeting, it is actually a positive story, of course, peter sijarta is not an independent politician, is not a person who... constantly builds, defines, or wants to promote external politics, he is completely dependent on viktor orbán, and the player around orbán is completely different
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, we understand this very well, the fact that a certain, certain contact begins, whether he will also be human, somehow , we will see, but nevertheless, it is a contact between. .. by officials who can determine, and what and how to do in ukrainian-hungarian relations, whether it will be possible to restart them there or change the emotion around them, i am rather skeptical about this, but nevertheless, change such an emotional color and start talking about some issues that are for us. are jointly important, of course , and it is not only transcarpathia at all, it is more likely the european dimension, it is the aid that hungary has the opportunity to block, it is the process of joining
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the eu, where hungary can put sticks in the wheels every couple of weeks, and in the end, orbán plays in a big game, he believes that he is... the leader of a conservative, right-wing europe, now there will be european elections, the right-wing is on the rise in europe in general, these are very different right-wings, some of them are pro-putin, some are anti-putin, some have seen this russia in general don't know where, but he thinks he's the one who can unite them, and he's the one who can unite them with central europe, so he 's playing a game that's... much higher than the game he can afford , we will be hungary for today, and mr. pavle, what about what arrived today on the eve of this visit to orban himself, that the european union is finally ready to react, if he continues
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to block ukrainian things, they will hit the already unsustainable forrent and the economy of hungary, in fact, this is the first such open economic threat. and political sanctions, how will he react to this? i don't believe in economic sanctions, but in political ones entirely, this is also the seventh article of the eu treaty, which can limit voting, this is really an opportunity to say: well, you don't use the euro there, you use the forint, the forint has its strengths , and it lets you play to the hungarians, but it also has its usual weaknesses, orbán and his supporters hate soros enough for his game around national currencies, many do not remember this story anymore, but nevertheless they are very
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afraid that one day the real game around forent will not start , and they really pay attention to it, and this article that you refer to is of course such ... and a not very veiled hint, if you want, consider it a warning to orbán as well, that in the end you have to play with the yesivsks. rules, you can of course interpret them in your own way, but that's it anyway there should be yeesian rules, not orban rules, here the eu actually understands very well, since this year of elections in the states, orban has been building relations with certain parts of the republican party, including the trumpists, not only, but including the trumpists, for quite a long time, and he can also play in polish. on a certain expectation that trump will come and then he will play this unique
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conservative right-wing role in europe, and of course the eu does not like this, and the eu will never allow this, so the warning that you refer to is a warning to orbán in general, and not only in relation to us, but in the end they are two sides of the same coin. mr. pavle, and these statements are fresh from the right... hungarians and romanians that they are ready to bite off a piece of ukraine if ukraine falls, in general, how it is perceived and how brussels interprets it, will they let it pass their ears, will they react in any way, because we understand that europe is a community of countries that respects different national interests and respects different nationalities, after all, there are a lot of european programs, where these are the highlights of every nation. they are kept, funds are allocated for them, so that it does not disappear somewhere,
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they came here, ripped it to pieces, so what can happen to it? brussels will not react, and i would not react to every blunder in the same way, because if we react to such banal provocations, then it turns out that we give not only three tribunes, as is the case in hungary or romania, but some... total marginally, even behind the scenes of politics, but we are still promoting them, and we are promoting them throughout europe, and even on the eve of the elections to the european parliament, i think that this is exactly what they are for are counting on it, and this is exactly what they are counting on somewhere in moscow, those who invented and manipulated it all. so there is some kind of direct reaction to this, and it is definitely not our story, and i
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would not advise us to particularly promote it either, well, of course, we react emotionally to it and cannot help but react, since it concerns us, but the fact that brussels directly won't react to it, that's actually right, and that's not what the reaction should be, as you understand very well, well, if brussels won't react, what are we going to do with another neighbor? eh, because as they say, for you robert, the prison in bratislava is crying, paraphrasing the song. and yes, we are talking about robert fitza and not as one odious political person with absolutely criminal statements that entail an encroachment on the territorial integrity or independence of ukraine. robert fizo declares it, his defense minister says: "surrender, surrender the territory." his minister of culture says: i love putin, kalinka-malinka, give the village girl a chichotka, we are restoring cultural
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ties with russia, this is just such a small a piece of that big ball, after which we realize not the problem of fizo, but the problem that this government and this political team were elected by the majority of slovaks, now these slovaks, i don't know whether the majority or the minority, are gradually starting to go out to... protests against the government of prime minister robert fico, well, this schizophrenia, he already flew through the maidan once, what kind of person is shiz and how to explain the soul of a mysterious european slovak who votes, then protests? mr. roman, i very much agree with you in everything, unfortunately, in one, but very much the important exception is that what we see are protests against fitz's government, it's precisely the people who... didn't vote for him, unfortunately, and we know it, i know it from my
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slovak friends. slovakia is the most pro-russian country in central europe, according to various polls, almost half of slovaks are openly pro-russian. and fitza is also an experienced politician, like orban, and if he is not treated, he will balance, he will say something and allow to do something. a member of his government, then he will come to us, we will soon transcarpathia will thus become an important international platform, and i say this without any trolling. well, actually, it should be , since neighbors are always important , so fiza will try to maintain some pragmatic relations with us, but return to bratislava and let his ministers make the statements they make, the minister of defense, well, we know him, but ministerial,
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ministerial, ministerial culture, even you see, i can’t pronounce it like freud, she... she is so very, very cool there, she is really a fan of everything that is pro-russian, she wants to renew ties with russia and with belarus, so this story is known, and fiza will continue to play this game and play it very consistently, and the main thing for us is that he does not play, let him play, it is important for us that fiza pragmatically remained a person who does not break the european consensus and... and who does not break the agreements that we critically need between ukraine and slovakia. can we achieve more beyond these two goals as of today? i am skeptical about that, but this is already a certain balance that we need today. mr. pavle, let's go to another one continent jump, and there the biden administration is doing everything possible, hopefully
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impossible, to develop this plan in the end. long-term support for ukraine, but there is one such small nuance, if we were always hoping for military support, now it looks like we will be able to return all our territories, now it looks like they are aiming to make make our economy more self-sufficient so that we can fend for ourselves, fine, but not enough to defend ourselves, and with various statements, including those of stoltenberg and the ex-commander of nato forces in europe stavridis, it looks like... they are ready to take a risk and allow certain territories to be thrown away from ukraine, this is all that we can do to somehow move that matter and still not allow them to remain in such positions. well, i wouldn't actually use the word reject,
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i haven't heard stoltenberg's latest statements, but just today my friends from... dropped that interview with staridis, which you are probably referring to, i would like it, you can give it to me, and and, i'm sure you and i have the same interview in mind, staridis, as much as i respect him, as a military man, and in this interview he says a dangerous thing about the fact that you can of course stop somewhere and... watch the situation can of course be stopped , the only question is who it will work for and how it will work, and our, our enemies, they understand perfectly well that they can continue to spin up the war machine, and putin needs this not only for the war with us,
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putin needs it for a reboot after his actual election. the russian regime, that is, it is beneficial for him at the same time in several, in several dimensions, the question is what conclusion will be made by the collective measure, although i do not like this word very much, in the sense of our capabilities, what weapons can be given to us and what weapons do they want to give us in today's reality , how they assess the actual emotional situation in ukraine and how they assess... themselves on the eve of very difficult elections, and there also begins a conversation about what you see and how the american elections will end, and god forbid it will be trump, will he be worse or better , and no one answered this question may not answer, but he's definitely going to be different, just like the new american democratic administration is going to be different, whether it's going to be biden
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2.0, or it's going to be some other story, so they want to also ... de-risk, and that's actually a clear story, only strategic for us, this means that in fact the whole logic of what we do must be agreed with them, and when they say to us, where is your strategy, we always say, where is your strategy, because we are ready for an ambitious strategy , and are you ready to support her, therefore in general, i have a very... attitude to the idea that our west can or should have separate strategies, or it is one strategy, or none at all, and then all of them. the messages, the statements that you referred to, they certainly do not add up, just like what mr. roman showed regarding the hungarians, somehow in one, in one
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lego, and this is of course disturbing, since this discussion actually continues in the west, it even by no means complete, it will depend a lot on the internal political situation in the states, and as far as i'm concerned, in europe gradually... the understanding of the russian threat is growing very gradually, but in general i see it as positive for europe, because they have been busy there for almost 30 years with some european affairs, so in general it is a very difficult strategic discussion that we need, it is necessary, if you want to have with our partners. mr. pavle, we have two minutes, while we are talking, from... this is what is included in the column never, never and here again, this tsik registered putin as a presidential candidate in the russian federation,
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you can imagine what a surprise, that's how it is morning jokes, and now i am talking about a very interesting investigation in terms of numbers, facts, and documents, which was jointly conducted by investigative journalists from the russian sub-unit uyder together with the taiwanese publication: the report, and here is a very interesting option: in order to kill ukrainians correctly and effectively, it is necessary to precision machines the machines were made by germany, japan, switzerland, they left this market in connection with the war. but there is taiwan. taiwan makes high-quality, unlike chinese machines, because these are not very efficient. taiwan takes the open pro-ukrainian support position, in contrast to communist china. they are in the same geopolitical package, and here it turns out that they are emerging as leaders, and so that you understand, part of those machines goes openly, and part
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is cunning through the nato country, turkey, what to do with all this? this is a well-known story, unfortunately, and we have been talking about it for some time, that the russian military-industrial complex is supported at the expense of the best taiwanese versts. and the fact that turkey is such a loophole system for sanctions, while being a nato country, and our friends, they are not ready yet, and this is a real fundamental problem, to put pressure on taiwan, to put pressure on turkey in order to cover all the loopholes, of course. it is difficult to put pressure on china, and the fact that china has increased its exports nine times in terms of transport measures, and by the way, you said about machine tools,
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the chinese have increased their export of various types of machine tools to today's russia by 11 times in two years, but none the less , the best idea, and it depends on our friends, on the americans, here the europeans can do nothing, here only with the americans need to speak, especially in ta taiwan. ugh, and taking into account that there is still an arrangement between the states and turkey, there is a contract, well, as far as i understand, it is not finally ready there, but it is still politically agreed on the sale of f-16s and their modernization, that is, rdogan got the , which he wanted, is now allowing sweden to join nato. now is the perfect situation to talk to gordan so much after all. very, very, very clear and very, very clever there, but i say so without diplomatic language, the clear scheme is complicated, we need to talk to biden so that he talked with erdoğan that taiwan,
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supporting ukraine, should not let the machines and compete with the chinese communists from beijing in supporting military aggression. a complex scheme, but it can be solved. mr. pavle, thank you for the interesting conversation, pavlo klinkin, a diplomat, our former minister of foreign affairs, was with us. well, we were with you, yes, on this we have to say goodbye, we wish you a peaceful and safe day, do not forget to support the armed forces of ukraine and our meetings for our defenders, and stay with espresso. tired of heavy and bulky saws, then unpack the tv strong saw just for... with it you can easily cut trees and bushes, it is so convenient to use for carpentry work, it is an ideal tool for your home or garden, and the price is only from
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