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[000:00:00;00] sectoral agreement, because it will be read that way from the point of view, actually, now, and what does it have to do with central european security, absolutely nothing, well, what we are talking about with you is like a morgan's veil, like an intermarium of two seas there, three seas and so on, now how will it develop in the system of relations in the nato system, and if you add to this that europe today... all the time talks about its own security, moreover, the current exercises conducted by nato, about that they testify, that in connection with that there the minimum invited member is the united states of america, and the united states of america is today 90% of the security that nato provides. the current exercises show that there
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is a selected model and legend, which... 90% of these are actually the countries and states of europe, and literally a few destroyers of the united states of america, which of the almost 90,000 personnel participating in this exercise, are present on them, that is, it is as if a shot at the model that can be made after the statements of candidate trump that we can leave nato, although this is not the answer, and it is obvious that it will not happen, but it is clear that preparations for this are underway, now one more thing, it is necessary to understand that in matters of security, the bilateral relations that ukraine will conclude with the states nato, they must be implemented in the form of concrete steps, that is, conditionally speaking, training is going on, how, conditionally speaking, and not conditionally speaking, realistically speaking, nato will interact
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with countries that... wish to join nato, well, in particular, those like ukraine. further, how they will interact with those who has already formed as a separate defense union, well, such as, for example, ukus, the indo-pacific bloc, which exists separately today, although it is called together in some countries, and from here it is obvious that we cannot do without formalizing the role played by contact. group, this pisses me off to the extreme, because i went through the contact group in minsk, when i hear that ramshtein is called the contact group for providing assistance to the defense of ukraine, well, as they say, ukrainian classics, contact it does not mean to decide, you see, and all this suggests that today those who are drawing and those who are sitting on
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the button... of european security, and regional, european, and continental, in general and global, they are not quite clearly understand, and how all this will interact with each other, how it will cooperate, because holding additional meetings, even online meetings, it does not solve the issue of ensuring the urgent supply of troops with ammunition, armored vehicles, maintenance of all this, and so on, therefore, i can say that for now, if we take the fact that the path that ukraine began to follow, signing bilateral guarantees on security, and the transition to regional security is not even visible, moreover, i do not see that they understand this problem , because when you listen to people like orban or people like fico there, they, what do they think, that we
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will sit here under... nato, and you try your best there. ot. but they think so in vain. i will remind them about the hike from suvorov to the alps. it is not clear what he was doing there, but keep in mind, monuments to suvorov's russia are standing even now, no one took them anywhere. therefore , only the moscow führer knows where the boot of a russian soldier can fit. and this should be understood very well. thank you very much, mr. ambassador, for this extremely important conversation on the tv channel. i would like to remind our tv viewers that now roman bezsmertny, a famous politician and diplomat, worked for them. ordinary things become unreal. heavy bags are not for my sore back. for back pain, try dolgit cream. dolgit cream relieves pain, reduces swelling and improves joint mobility. do whatever
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that the darkness is creeping under the gates of the capital, the stranglers of our will. the mother had no tears in sight, she took out a woolen scarf and gently wrapped her thin neck, not to be idle. sometimes my son, as he walked on the cobblestones of his hometown, a city of three-quarters of a million people, no one in the squad ever asked why only 300 of us were going, and there behind the dnieper was a plain, a plain, and the snow was falling, and the dog was voracious, like a locust, hostile the moscow rush, black, red blanket snow, the day of glory was written for ukraine. they fought until
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the young man in a woolen scarf was the last to fall. miroslav czach, public figure, historian, journalist, deputy of the polish diet of the second, third term will now work in the espresso studio cadence glory to ukraine, mr. myroslav, i congratulate you. congratulations, donald tusk and president zelenskyi, denys shmyhal met, talked, we understand, in fact it is about a complete reset not only of certain tactical points, but in general about... a new vision of what is called the economic-social-security policy of the eastern flank of nato. this story is much bigger than bilateral polish-ukrainian relations. so the meeting took place and it is symbolic that donald tusk made his first foreign visit as the head of the polish government government, made to kyiv. poland and ukraine are starting to work on the guarantee of the so-called agreement on security guarantees. that is, poland joined the statement of the g7 group. resigned from the nato summit last year and
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the development of a bilateral document similar to the one signed by great britain and ukraine during the visit of prime minister sunak in january of this year is beginning, this is an extremely important fact, because the government of the previous polish government moroviecki's government did not join this declaration, which was very iconic and very such an alarming signal that poland is withdrawing from its support for ukraine. today, this page has already been turned and poland is returning to supporting ukraine in the military aspect, which was confirmed by president zelensky, who said that a package of military aid from poland is being prepared. the second result of tusk's visit to kyiv is that a very well-known person, a well-known politician, pavlo koval, has been appointed as the representative of the polish government for the reconstruction of ukraine, well
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, this means that there is a person, he is extremely favorable to ukraine, guest of espresso, for many years, now the chairman of the foreign affairs committee of the diet, that is , a prominent figure in polish politics, that person is also responsible for this, i think he has ambitions and a desire to develop precisely this cooperation, so that there are no these are declarations, but filled. real content, and now with regard to the already specific situation with agriculture, with transportation and so on, then prime minister shmygar announced the development , and he said that a draft law is being developed in the ukrainian parliament regarding equalization of the rights of polish and ukrainian carriers, i think that this is not a problem, polish enterprises from... are invited to the construction of the autobahn from kraków to rivne, that is, everything
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that actually affects the residents of lviv and the western region, if the autobahn will be built to rivne, it will greatly simplify all transportation in general and so on, this is the second aspect, and the third is related to the fact that work is starting, or in fact , work is already continuing to ensure that in the matter of agricultural products, exports of ukrainian agricultural products to poland were not this stumbling block. bilateral, bilateral relations, and from what i observe, poland is approaching the adoption of the romanian model, that is, there is an export of agricultural products, but in some part of grain, for example, corn or something, when too much import is made to poland, then the license system for ukrainian exporters is included, i.e. then you have to go to the ministry and get such an appropriate license. that it is ultimately understandable
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a realistic package of cooperation in those very specific cases that have been poisoning all of our lives for the past six months or more, so nothing felt like trouble in the relationship between president zelenskyi and president andrzej duda, then the clouds began to thicken, and accordingly we got some extremely iconic scandals, well we understand that the page has been...turned, so that's pretty much history, and second point, can something like this happen again now? well, let's talk like this, what happened? well, in fact, calling things our own, the embargo on four types of agricultural products, and before it was on all types, plus blocking the border meant that poland entered into this free trade, trade war with ukraine, we call it our own. in the state of the trade war between ukraine and poland, we didn't
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call it that, so as not to thicken the colors and so on, so as not to inflate the atmosphere, in fact it was a trade war, only a trade war is simply unique, so what it caused losses to ukraine, well, of course, 6,000 4,000 trucks are blocked like this, they cannot enter ukraine with humanitarian aid, with normal there... in the commercial component, military aid to ukraine, but it caused damage to the polish economy. poland earns in general, when taking into account the exchange of goods between. ukraine and poland, poland earns from ukraine, because it exports more than it imports from ukraine. during two years of war years. and thank god that donald tusk, as the prime minister, understood this situation, and that he used all his
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leverage to stop this situation. this is true when talking about the global aspect, but we have turned that page. i believe that the return. there will be no decisive power to this state, the biggest guarantee of this state is himself, himself, the very person of donald tusk. there is a feeling that this year, well, it can pass under the sign of two donalds, it is donald tusk, without a doubt, yes, when we talk about eastern european politics and donald trump, when we talk about continental politics in general security policy. i am very grateful to you, anton, for what you said, about donald's coming to power in poland. tuska means reformatting and the place of poland in the european union and in the security dimension, because that is how it is. donald tusk is not only the polish prime minister, but one of the most iconic political figures in europe. and so it will actually be. currently, negotiations are underway to restore the so-called weimar triangle, which is france, germany and poland. and
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the role of poland under tusk's premiership will be much greater in europe than it was under yaroslav kaczyński or andrzej duda. this is clear. and the relations between ukraine and poland in this perspective, when you look at them, they are very important, after all, ukrainians don't need to explain this, now with regard to donald trump, i am closely following the primaries and what is happening. well, everyone has already written off our lady nikihelev, in fact, already in a losing position and so on, i would think that this is politics, it is a complicated thing, the election campaign is just as much. qualities are important , leadership qualities and the results of the new hampshire primary were not so bad 55 to 44, this for trump means that nicki hull is not in such a losing position for me, but other wiser people who are more aware of the american situation say
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that she is a loser, well, let's say a loser, but all the observers who they say that trump is not very satisfied with the course of the primaries, but with... the fact that among republican voters, a third say that they will not vote for him under any circumstances, and there is such a category, which are those who are undecided, i.e. those who look closely, who are negative in them the electorate or the negative perception of trump is very large, and it is getting stronger, that is, when we take into account the overall national level, when trump will have a duel with the president with biden. the results can be very different, although today trump leads with a margin of 3-4% over biden, so to speak, and everyone says, god, biden can't win and so on. yes, yes, the situation does not sound like that. now the republican primaries show that there is no such great dominance of trump
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among republican voters. yes, he has there is a huge dominance in the republican party, but not in... among republican voters, and i understand, well, but in any case, trump is back in big politics and trump will shape the political agenda in the united states, well, until the election, yes we don't know how the end of the election campaign in the united states will be, but trump's influence is already there, he started sending signals, sending signals, and no one can decipher them correctly, well, because trump is trying to keep his mystery geopolitical, maybe he is just lying , maybe he just promises. in any case , he shows that he has some kind of plan, but given his previous political credit history in europe, his threats, so to speak, to nullify the influence of the united states on the european continent were very well remembered. europeans pay more for their security. europeans began to think in global categories, and
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global categories consist in the fact that they understand that america is objectively determined to confront china, that... china is weakening, their economy is weakening, but the americans need, there is this detached kimerchin or whatever he is called, kimchin, kimchin, let there be kimchin, and he and the americans must deal with the challenges in asia, india is not easy, india is forming its own so-called nationalist agenda, god knows, will it not occur to the indians that they also had some kind of empire once upon a time. will return pakistan, well , what do they try to do from time to time, that is, the americans have something to do, so russia is a threat, all europeans recognize that a minute that russia is also an existential threat to europe, and in europe we need to prepare for
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a confrontation with russia and not rely so much on american, american help, and when we talk about trump, i will always emphasize for now 11 months until the election, who is the president united states? that's right, joe biden, you have to ask joe biden, understand all the schedules and so on, but trump still. did not become president, the president of the united states is joe biden, and we need to talk about what he will do for joe biden's ukraine and what he has committed to in relation to europe, and here is an extremely important role, and it is american, as well as observers, journalists, experts, everyone is talking, the activation of great britain and the absolutely united position of both conservatives and the party and the labor party, the labor party, they will also have higher elections in the fall. security issues, the position is the same: support ukraine, strengthen nato and
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strengthen the european component. the speech of the british minister of defense, who elaborated on the security guarantees of great britain for ukraine, simply phenomenal. there was also a phrase that i just sat down. great britain said: "our union with ukraine is for 100 years, we will not leave ukraine, russia." forget about the fact that great britain will leave ukraine, this is such a phrase, it is extremely expensive, great britain has always been, is and how much f-16 is behind this phrase, i understand what you are talking about, myroslav, but on the other hand, we remember we note that the polish republic, the second commonwealth, had extremely powerful treaties with france and by the united kingdom, when we talk about 1939. yes, but help was given, but the so-called strange war was going on, well and accordingly, now we understand that our
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european allies are showing their readiness, but here the question is, so to speak, in the details, well, if we are talking about aviation, for example, this is not a small thing, of course i am being ironic, but the decision is still on the table, no, the decision is today, colonel ignats said that our partners are ready to hand it over to ukraine today. f-16s are standing, nothing has changed since our conversation the dutch, danish, and norwegian f-16s are ready to be transferred to ukraine, but we do not have the infrastructure to accept and service them, it is precisely with the leopards, the leopards were transferred, and the german minister of defense boris pistorius said that in 2024 , germany will train 10,000 ukrainian soldiers and hand over 80. the problem is that they are being repaired and where are the spare parts, it may seem absurd, but in reality
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, after the end of the cold war, europe disarmed and the military-industrial complex also dripped a little for export, something there they gave, instead, for their own forces and would still help in this way during such a terrible war, which is russian, which is the russian-ukrainian war, they are not ready, they are slowly being pumped up, but they are being pumped up... that is, to what i am leading the situation of the war in 2024 is moving to a completely different level, this is a completely different level, which is the construction, the system of alliances will be built, and political decisions and military decisions, economic decisions will ultimately be such that ukraine will really be provided with all the means, to ukraine won, defeated russia for this attitude. secondly, for ukraine to strengthen its own forces so much that it can last for 100 years, how will someone
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in russia think of attacking ukraine and or some other, other countries, that is , an absolutely different configuration will be lined up, whether trump will be president or not trump, at that moment it starts to have absolutely less importance, because the system works, the states work and work. their armed forces and military-industrial complex, but europe can now go through a series of elections, yes almost half of the countries of the european union will go through national elections , this year, well, and accordingly we see how the right-wing populists are warming up, but at one time, for example, slovakia pleasantly surprised us, yes, when it elected fico's party, well, we can see certain miracles such a plan in quotes, of course unpleasant, i don't know there, in the netherlands, in belgium, and what, and and, and who? makes decisions, elected politicians, or i don't know, these or other elites? no, no, then the elites do not, elected,
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elected governments, of course, make decisions coalitions, politicians and so on. instead, let's not forget that during the war and the confrontation as it is, the minister of defense of germany said, we must be ready for this, that russia will go to war against germany by 2020, the 30th year, this is just a copernican, a copernican revolution in the way thinking of the germans in general for their own security, i am not talking about sweden and the norwegians, who said that we should be ready in 2-3 years. then russia will go to war against us, the finns are not discussed at all, right? that is, we have a radically different situation, it is radically different the situation, and here the roles have already been determined, just like in germany, well, all the alternatives fir deutchland, that is, all, well, we forget that there will be elections, well, next year there are, it seems,
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parliamentary elections are to be held next year, who is the leader in public opinion polls. the christian democrats, who have moved away from the era of angela merkel, and now they are generally pushing chancellor scholz, that he supports ukraine too little, the alternative party is losing support there for the first time in six months or so, people have taken to the streets of their cities, and everyone was shocked, led by president steinmey, and said: there are so many of us, and we stand against this, ... the threat of the alternative, moreover, now, they have it called the bureau or the office of the protection of the constitution provides documentation to prohibit the activity alternative firdochna, because it is a threat to the constitutional government, a threat to the constitutional government can ban the activities of this party, you, you saw anton six months ago, such processes, no, and here
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we return to poland, poland, its elections, parliamentary elections. october 15 inspired europe, democrats know how to win , societies know how to mobilize for protection, not such ukrainians mobilized , and you just caused the whole world to wonder that ukraine, this david with that goliath , is fighting, and where does it get its strength and sacrifice, heroism and everything, courage , everything you can say positively, but there is also a non-military way, that is, which poland shows. that democrats can win and pro-european and democratic societies can win, but look, returning to security agreements, security guarantees, i understand that there is bilateral, bilateral level, yes there is a level of what is called security guarantees from the gs7 side, well, let's take, for example, the british case, how seriously will they be prepared here, well, for 100 years it sounds very good, but how deeply
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will the great britain in what is called: the protection of ukrainian national interests, given its colossal resource, although not as powerful as that of the united states, and this applies, perhaps, to poland, well, you mentioned the 39th year, yes, and security guarantees great britain, regarding poland, a strange war and so on, it would be necessary to consider whether they were ready, not ready, and what role did they play in the collapse of these guarantees that these guarantees did not work? the molotov ribbentrop pact, don't forget that the molotov ribbentrop pact, that is, the hitler-stalin pact, was directly directed against the security guarantees of great britain and france, which were given to them. hitler would not have gone to war with poland against poland, if he had the advantage, the danger that a second front would be opened, if there was not,
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there were no working peasants in the aggression. red of the army on september 17, 1939, this is clear, but earlier there was a pactritrop of the moltov and the division of spheres of influence and so on, which the british and americans already knew on the second day, because the agents , well, the agents, it may be said that way, are the people of the amt and in the embassy of the third reich in moscow , these were immediately passed on, and they knew what was being prepared and what kind of war was waiting for us, it would not be a war, a wagon for the defense of poland, but this... it would be a world war already, and it was also clear on august 23 , 39- th year, now returning, and what guarantees will there be from great britain, that they mean, the minister of defense, speaking among other things about guarantees to ukraine and about 100 years of the british-ukrainian alliance, said that they will
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