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by the belarusian dictator lukashenko, the belarusian gang writes about it, in particular, so they recorded the atypical activity of a chinese cargo airline, during four days the same transport plane made four flights on the route urumqi, minsk and back. according to the belarusians, this aerchyn board delivered military equipment to belarus from china and the cargo probably did not pass customs. checks, well, let's talk now about international affairs. maksym nesvitay, political scientist, expert international, contact us. glory to ukraine, mr. maksym. congratulations, glory to the heroes. well, you have heard this information, which was submitted by the belarusian opposition, journalistic communities, and at the same time there is information of an official plan, in particular, it is about a more than 12-hour meeting between the main adviser of president joseph biden, jake sale.

adviser on issues of state security, national security, or rather yes, well, and the chinese minister of foreign affairs, to talk for 12 hours, we understand that a lot is happening in the world, well, but about something they said, in your opinion, what they could agree on or even agree on something, well, the situation right now is, let's say, extremely tense, or the fact that in the united states of america, this political crisis is going on, and many strategically important decisions, in including financial support for ukraine, israel and taiwan, which is also very important, i think, in the context of this meeting, many opponents of the united states of america may perceive this as a weakness and as a great window of opportunity for that. to

take advantage of this situation, and the task the united states now to make sure that its opponents do not have such thoughts, i think that through these negotiations , possible scenarios were discussed, maybe not directly, but i think that it was a fairly frank conversation, well if it lasted for 12 hours about the vision there and in... including the future world order and some kind of mutual security promises, because we understand that now, in essence, china has huge geopolitical ambitions, it has such satellite states as north korea, the russian federation, well no you can use it completely call zarada a satellite of justice, but a country that is very dependent on china now. they have partnered very fruitfully with

iran, they have a partnership relationship with pakistan, and there also, as you know, with india there may be some skirmishes over kashmir, so there and for more than 12 hours there may actually be a discussion there. look, mr. maksym, we would still like to hear your thoughts on the matter. to orbán's extreme statement regarding the importance of donald trump. we understand that against the background of all the crisis situations currently taking place in the united states and trump's desire to regain the presidency, he will now activate all possible and impossible levers of influence in order to enter this race in some winning positions, right? and in fact, we also understand that orbán... is the kind of person who does not

hide his pro-trump views, and ultimately, pro-russian views, that is, and we see what he says about the fact that there is a name donald in the world trump said so. to what extent this peace that trump can offer will suit ukraine is a completely different matter question, but how dangerous are such statements, and in fact, how do you assess his peacemaking qualities, which orbán spoke about the possibility and such a desire, as he says, to end the war in the shortest possible time and actually negotiate peace with putin. well, it was to some extent an exchange of such compliments, let's say so, because donald trump, at one time , in one of his speeches, as you remember, praised orbán for being an extremely effective president, although turkish, but such

i had a nuance, in principle, i think orban did very glad that trump mentioned him, because i think he is a fan of such successful leaders. authoritarian type , which donald trump definitely is, and i think that viktor orbán hopes that this is significantly, well, the future victory of trump will potentially significantly strengthen his position in europe, and so this is his main hope, of course, uh, speaking , yes, yes, well, actually, if we talk about the value of these statements and, let's say, what we need to read. between the lines, and there is no special value, it's just like that an attempt to smear trump, he now looks, well so far, based on sociological studies and how he moves in the caucuses and primaries, as

the main candidate from the republicans and in principle the main candidate to win the presidential election, right now , we are putting in parentheses what is still the supreme court. has to make a decision, and in principle, the situation there can change during the election campaign here and now he looks like the main contender to become the president of the united states america, whether we like it or not, well, we rather don't like it, of course, but from orbán's side, it's just such a retort, another reminder of himself and the hope of receiving some gratitude and a share to support himself. to himself , because, well, trump looks like a person who remembers those who oppose him, so trivially enough, and at the same time he can be, well, at least orbán hopes for it, grateful for the support, then maybe i don't know if there is any finance, maxim,

look, well, if we are already mentioning orbán, then we would like to ask you, in your opinion, whether it will be possible to reach a certain understanding with hungary, that is, on the one hand , we have a very powerful union. the european bureaucrats and the management system of the european union in general there very clearly warned orban that, sorry, viktor, in case of something, we will not give you money, and you should take care of your hungarian economy, so to speak, with your sovereign powers, so orban, i think, heard them, on the other hand, we understand that orban has ties to russia the federation, in particular, when we talk about gas and energy issues in general, and accordingly the body. orban wants to, and hesitates, so to speak, but there was a meeting in uzhgorod, in the orban triangle, oh , sorry, sijarto, sijarto, kuleba and yermak, respectively, took a break for a few days to 10 days, and after that they will

to offer a more specific road map, yes, well, it is said, in particular, about the meeting between viktor orban and the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi. so, this one, let's consider the case. i personally think that there is no serious potential for improving relations between ukraine and hungary, because the problem of our relations lies deeper than some specific, situational stories, for example, with poland and with farmers, there is some competition in the agrarian sphere, okay, such and such moment, which can be settled, and from our... well, let's just say such problems , there were no default claims against hungary, but what we see from hungary's side, the first thing is that they still have these revanchist and revisionist attitudes since the first world war remained, they

they tried to implement them during the second world war, acting as allies of nazi germany, and... until now their imperial sentiments, they have not disappeared anywhere, this is inherent both to orbán personally, to his government, and to a large part of the population, we all remember such moments like the scarf from the picture. of great hungary, which includes the territories of ukraine, and in orban's office, that's orban, if i'm not mistaken, there is a map from the map of great hungary, which includes the territories of ukraine, they are in their textbooks they used a lot of top-down manipulation of ukraine, these scandals also happened repeatedly, they, like russia , carried out illegal passporting in the territory of the carpathian region. the carpathians carried out cultural and linguistic expansion, we all remember those cases when the hungarian national anthem

was played there in some rural village councils , flags were hung, they erected many of their monuments there, their eagles, hungarian and so on and the like , that is, they pursued a consistent policy, the same as the russian federation, only everything was different in scale, because they have less money, and with such a certain level of courage, because they do not have such a ... powerful armed forces and no nuclear weapons, this is the only thing that limits them hungary, it is just a militant version of the russian federation, and the only ukraine's policy, which should be strategically aimed at interaction with hungary, er, and these are the tools that can be used to work with hungary, exclusively through pressure and concrete actions to rid them of, let's say, the imperial shawl that they have. is growing more and more. we thank you, maksym nesvitai, a political scientist and international expert, was in touch with us. actually,

we discussed the situation, the difficult situation now, which is happening around the support of ukraine. so? we understand that now we have enough crisis situations in the european union, because until february 1, orban is trying to negotiate in his characteristic manner, better conditions in order to remove his veto in support of ukraine. and on the other hand we have. a situation where in the united states the support for us from congress continues to hang in the air, because donald trump, as a possible hypothetical next president of the united states, wants to carve out the most comfortable positions for himself and actually bring the entire segment of the republicans under him so that they cannot take certain actions without his consent, in my opinion, well, look here such a story , that is... it's still more complicated than it seems, that is, the american electoral system and the situation

in the united states in general, well, it's just cosmically difficult now, so we understand that if donald trump, despite all those pranks, so i'm putting it mildly and put it this way, implemented by him during the last few years, they remained without special attention of the extremely sensitive american justice system, which means that we will most likely see this... fall election races in the team of joseph biden and donald trump, that is, everybody else, well, they're going to be forced out, so to speak, and the situation now, the current situation in the united states, where the governor of that very state of texas is not just over there going against official state policy, domestic security policy, of foreign policy, because we are talking about the external borders of the united states, so in particular with... sika, that is, if the governor can afford it, he is supported by about 25 governors of other states, then

this means that the situation is extremely serious, and accordingly orbán, as a kind of central european trickster, obviously knows who he should give compliments to, just in case, that is, orbán is aware that if he is going to praise trump, well , he will not be worse off in relations with the current biden administration , but he can cut some extremely powerful bonuses, and accordingly, orbán , so to speak, is already counting on the new next political cycle, they are even similar in some ways, well, orbán is of course 20 years younger than donald trump, and he does not dye his hair, although he doesn't use a car for thirst, but maybe he does, maybe the course will be whatever it is, well, let's not discuss orbán's appearance, well, but in any case, there is something like that with trump. similar yes, but trump is, of course , a much larger geopolitical fish,

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of the united nations organization. i quote: this is our best way to ensure peace and security in the world. you know that in order to protect these principles, the european union imposed significant sanctions against russia, which significantly weakened its military power, but still they are there, and the war continues. if you can say so, the intensity of hostilities is increasing. and we don't see the light at the end of the tunnel, i was quoting the high representative of the european union for foreign policy, josep borel. well, in the meantime, we are adding oleksandr kalitenko, the legal advisor of transparency international ukraine, to our airwaves. actually, we will talk with him about interesting information, rather optimistic information, in my opinion, regarding our successes in the fight against corruption, if it was not, it might be for someone. but in fact, we have risen by 12 positions in the global corruption perception index over the course of a year. mr. alexander, in fact, we would like you

to describe in more detail in what context we should consider this situation in a positive way, yes, have we made significant progress, because i am not competent in this matter, but you are a person who deals with this whole matter, you can assess , as far as we are in practice and in some kind of law. in this aspect, we are still starting to significantly fight corruption and take some positions in the world that are acceptable to us. congratulations! ukraine achieved one of the best results for the past year in the world, because our progress is plus three points for the year and actually 12 points in the plus, this is one of the best indicators among all countries of the world in recent years. that were included in our corruption perception index, we received 36 points out of a possible 100, where 100 is almost complete absence of corruption in the public sector, and zero is almost

total corruption. in fact, we became one of 17 countries in this year's index to demonstrate their best performance in the history of the measure, and since the revolution of dignity, over the past 10 years, ukraine has added a total of 11 points in the study, and it shows. systemic, positive dynamics in the direction of the fight against corruption, although, of course, we still need to work and work, because the average score for the european union for the eu countries is now 64 points, we can say that we have reached the level of candidates for the european union, because we have now overtaken bosnia and herzegovina and turkey, which have 35 and 34 points respectively, but we have not yet... caught up with, for example, albania, which has one more point, and we have not yet caught up with the members of the eu itself. the worst indicator in the eu is hungary with 42

points, the best, of course, is denmark 90 and finland 87, and to an average of 64 points, we also have more work to do. mr. oleksandr, look, there are still, so to speak, countries that are ahead of us, and i was surprised, i just discovered about... this is the rating, so i quote: albania, argentina, belarus, gambia are ahead of ukraine by one point , ethiopia and zambia. somehow , i have never been to gambia, ethiopia, or zambia, i don't understand very well, so to speak, how actively they overcome corruption, but we can talk about belarus, maybe some kind of lame methodology. the definition is yes, well, we understand that belarus is a dictatorship and there, well, corruption works in a different way than in countries with a market economy and a democratic system, that is

, everything is different there, but no, you understand, belarus has overtaken us. belarus is losing points, it's a downward trend that continues for more than one year now, and this year they lost two points again, unlike us. from belarus, the situation is as follows: there is a lack of information about the situation in belarus, there is not an adequate number of independent media and on for example, civil society organizations that would have access to information about public procurement, about the declarations of officials' incomes, etc., the main sources of information about corruption are monitoring mechanisms, for example, the greco report, organizations of the council of europe, but even official... authorities of belarus , she forbade the publication of this report, and became in fact the only exception from all the greco countries that allowed

themselves a ban. publish this report, however, this study, our corruption perceptions index, is calculated on the basis of 13 authoritative sources, including the world economic forum, the world bank, the report of the human rights organization freedom house, as well as the analytical publication the economist, which also has its own research, and it is taken into account in the cpi, so we have more information on ukraine. than in belarus, and taking into account this somewhat paradoxical perception of corruption, although these corruption scandals that we have in ukraine, they do not always mean that there is more corruption in us than in belarus, there are corruption scandals, which means that someone exposed a corrupt person mahrova, someone exposed the thief who , you know, embezzled one and a half billion uah from the state budget, and so on and so forth, that is, this is just evidence of the improvement of the situation, the more...

the more scandals, the more dynamic the situation is, there are chances that sooner or later we will come to some normal overcoming, and where we have left, so to speak, reserves of corruptors, yes, well, because you can complain about one or another there, i don't want to list them, give me trivial ones, well, but there are certain ones, so say, ukrainian trends, and we gave three recommendations this year in order to in order to improve the fight against corruption and... this is through nabusap and wax, they need to increase their ability to carry out an objective competitive selection of new employees of these bodies, in order to better fight against top-level corruption, as well as to eliminate contradictions in criminal legislation, the famous amendments of the vine , well, to start the reform of the forensic expert service in order to have access to expertise, we missed a bit over the last 10 years in the reform of the accounting chamber and the state audit

service, this is also... our new recommendation that it is necessary to shift, for example, the focus of public procurement monitoring from post-control to prevention, when violations must be detected even before the conclusion of the contract in order to prevent losses, and the accounting chamber should update the procedure for selecting its management and members, because it will supervise how we international financial aid is used, and it should be used effectively for the needs of states. assets of corrupt officials and henchmen of russia, this is both the improvement of confiscation mechanisms and the blocking of pro-russian assets, and to change management selection procedure and conduct an independent audit of arma's activities to improve the efficiency of asset management and implementation. thank you, thank you for your work and for following all these trends, oleksandr kalitenko, the legal advisor of transparency international

u. was actually in touch with us in our studio, and antin and i have already managed to transmit a word to our colleagues, our journalists, who work tirelessly to inform us and you about everything that is most important, so we pass the word to irina koval, who has already prepared a fresh issue from the news editorial office, iro, we give you the floor, well , actually tell, thank you marta for the most important events at this time. but in a moment greetings to all viewers of the espresso tv channel. newspeak. in the studio of iryna koval. and to the most important events. one person died,

three more were injured due to... russian shelling of donetsk region. it's ripe